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Post by toni on Oct 10, 2012 10:57:59 GMT -5
www.mynews3.com/content/news/local/story/Waterfowl-blamed-for-Swimmer-s-Itch-at-Lake-Mead/AUqMJAN6CkKEvTvO0rDVeQ.cspx?rss=3269Quote: Because these larvae cannot develop inside a human, they soon die,” the CDC website on Swimmer’s Itch reports. “Most cases of Swimmer’s Itch do not require medical attention.” End of quote. I liked (not) how they say : Most...cases don't require medical attention. Because if you do feel you need medical attention, WE know what they'll say if you "tell them" you have anything in your skin. This was in the newspaper this morn here in Vegas since Lake Mead which supplies our WATER.... seems to have Cercarial parasites and people are getting what "they" are calling "swimmers itch". Now, on this news link, they have a place to click to CDC's info on Cercarial parasites.... and I sure didn't know this. Did you? That if you come in contact with these cercaria... they said these "can't live" in human skin? Really?? Is that true..or is this more of CDC's way to pretend again that parasites don't exist in America, let alone anyone's skin?
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Post by Lynn on Oct 10, 2012 11:37:56 GMT -5
Hi Toni
Boy that is weird. I would love those people who got that to put in their comments to see what they see and know and not just what the media and the CDC say. Would really like to know how many of those people got well.
How stupid can science get. If it lives on a bird why not be able to live on another host. They may find our over toxic life style perfect breeding grounds.
In Light Lynn
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Post by toni on Oct 10, 2012 13:08:15 GMT -5
Hi Toni Boy that is weird. I would love those people who got that to put in their comments to see what they see and know and not just what the media and the CDC say. Would really like to know how many of those people got well. How stupid can science get. If it lives on a bird why not be able to live on another host. They may find our over toxic life style perfect breeding grounds. Hi Lynn, In Light Lynn I totally agree with all you said. I feel the same way, the people with the itching mess are who would be the ones to hear speak about "if" they rid their "rash" or not.
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Post by ginna898 on Oct 10, 2012 16:29:55 GMT -5
I had swimmer's itch and 4 months later.. (Just when I got rid of the "sores" that were from swimmer's itch ).. morgs lesions on my face and arm appeared.
The CDC took the report of my positive result of swimmer's itch and followed up on what medication and dosage I took.
So YES, I think more often than not, swimmer's itch takes hold in humans.
Of note, I went to the ER and there was a female doctor from Florida and she refused to accept the diagnoses of swimmer's itch and she instead said I had scabies on one leg below the knee ---- go figure.
She said very arrogantly: "I am from Florida and have seen many cases of swimmer's itch and that is not it" ... Yet it matched up perfectly with Dermatlas photo's.
Swimmer's itch is also called ground itch cuz you can get it from walking barefoot and Larva will get on your skin and penetrate. It was not until I got my Family MD to see for himself that I did have it.
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Post by toni on Oct 10, 2012 20:06:31 GMT -5
I had swimmer's itch and 4 months later.. (Just when I got rid of the "sores" that were from swimmer's itch ).. morgs lesions on my face and arm appeared. The CDC took the report of my positive result of swimmer's itch and followed up on what medication and dosage I took. So YES, I think more often than not, swimmer's itch takes hold in humans. Of note, I went to the ER and there was a female doctor from Florida and she refused to accept the diagnoses of swimmer's itch and she instead said I had scabies on one leg below the knee ---- go figure. She said very arrogantly: "I am from Florida and have seen many cases of swimmer's itch and that is not it" ... Yet it matched up perfectly with Dermatlas photo's. Swimmer's itch is also called ground itch cuz you can get it from walking barefoot and Larva will get on your skin and penetrate. It was not until I got my Family MD to see for himself that I did have it. Hi Ginna, And you are absolutely correct about what you said: So YES, I think more often than not, swimmer's itch takes hold in humans. Quote from article: Similar to the situation and experimental rodents, human infections by birds schistosomes may, under certain circumstances, be linked to [glow=red,2,300]MORE[/glow]than just cercarial dermatitis. (end of quote) www.researchgate.net/publication/41147688_Methodical_approaches_in_the_identification_of_areas_with_a_potential_risk_of_infection_by_bird_schistosomes_causing_cercarial_dermatitis All this info from Cambridge contradicts what CDC says about Cercarial infections. The above quotes from the link's article, is on Page 2, right side.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 10, 2012 20:54:02 GMT -5
I don't know a lot about the Lake in Las Vegas and whether it has ducks there. I was brought up with the terminology "duck itch". Dad always said "never swim where ducks are". This is from Wikepedi;Swimmer’s itch, also known as lake itch, duck itch, cercarial dermatitis,[1] and Schistosome cercarial dermatitis,[2]:432 is a short-term, immune reaction occurring in the skin of humans that have been infected by water-borne schistosomatidae. Symptoms, which include itchy, raised papules, commonly occur within hours of infection and do not generally last more than a week. A number of different flatworm parasites in the family Schistosomatidae are what cause swimmer’s itch. These parasites use both freshwater snails and vertebrates as hosts in their parasitic life cycles. Mostly waterfowl are used as the vertebrate host. During one of their life stages, the larvae of the parasite, cercaria, leave the water snails and swim freely in the freshwater, attempting to encounter water birds. These larvae can accidentally come into contact with the skin of a swimmer. The cercaria penetrates the skin and dies in the skin immediately. The cercaria larvae cannot infect humans, but they cause an inflammatory immune reaction. This reaction causes initially mildly itchy spots on the skin. Within hours, these spots become raised papules which are intensely itchy. Each papule corresponds to the penetration site of a single parasite. The schistosomatidae that give rise to swimmer’s itch should not to be confused with those of the genus Schistosoma, which infect humans and cause the serious human disease schistosomiasis, or with larval stages of thimble jellyfish (Linuche unguiculata), which give rise to seabather's eruption. Seabather's eruption mostly occurs in salt water, on skin covered by clothing or hair, whereas swimmer's itch mostly occurs in freshwater, on uncovered skin.[3] Since it was first described in Michigan in 1928,[4] swimmer's itch has been reported from around the world. Some suggest incidence may be on the rise,[5] although this may also be attributed to better monitoring. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swimmer%27s_itch Duck itch (aka swimmers itch) images[/color] tinyurl.com/9jm2rw6
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Post by toni on Oct 11, 2012 8:32:08 GMT -5
The lake here, Lake Mead here is the largest reservoir in the United States. It provides water for so many millions. And yes, the ( old info ) regarding cercarial dermatits, is appearing to be not correct. Yep....that's what this link above was about in how incorrect (they) have been about these parasites on water fowl and their capacity in the human body. www.researchgate.net/publication/....rial_dermatitis Quote from article: Similar to the situation and experimental rodents, human infections by birds schistosomes may, under certain circumstances, be linked to more than just cercarial dermatitis. (end of quote) All this info from Cambridge contradicts what CDC says about Cercarial infections. The above quotes from the link's article, are on Page 2, right side. This is a bit about Lake Mead from Wiki en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mead
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 11, 2012 22:31:32 GMT -5
Cercarial Dermatitis, a Neglected Allergic Disease.Institute of Immunology and Microbiology, First Faculty of Medicine, Charles University in Prague and General University Hospital in Prague, Studničkova 7, 128 00, Prague 2, Czech Republic, . Clinical Reviews in Allergy & Immunology (impact factor: 2.6). 08/2012; DOI:10.1007/s12016-012-8334-y Abstract Cercarial dermatitis (swimmer's itch) is a common non-communicable water-borne disease. It is caused by penetration of the skin by larvae (cercariae) of schistosomatid flukes and develops as a maculopapular skin eruption after repeated contacts with the parasites. The number of outbreaks of the disease is increasing, and cercarial dermatitis can therefore be considered as an emerging problem. Swimmer's itch is mostly associated with larvae of the bird schistosomes of Trichobilharzia spp. Recent results have shown that mammalian infections (including man) manifest themselves as an allergic reaction which is able to trap and eliminate parasites in the skin. Studies on mammals experimentally infected by bird schistosome cercariae revealed, however, that during primary infection, parasites are able to escape from the skin to the lungs or central nervous system. This review covers basic information on detection of the infectious agents in the field and the clinical course of the disease, including other pathologies which may develop after infection by cercariae, and diagnosis of the disease. Source: PubMed tinyurl.com/9v8rzj5cercariaThe topic cercaria is discussed in the following articles: causation of schistosomiasis TITLE: schistosomiasis (disease) ...or urine. On contact with freshwater, the eggs hatch, releasing ciliated larvae that swim about until they find an appropriate snail host, in which they develop further. Fork-tailed larvae, the cercariae, subsequently emerge from the snail into the water and, upon contact with the skin of a mammal, drop their tails and penetrate the tissues, getting into the blood circulation, where they... www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/103232/cercariaCercaria - Images www.lymephotos.com/cercaria/index.html
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 16, 2012 23:00:01 GMT -5
I'd read an article online that said 100 years ago cancer was found to be a fungus (? ) that could change it's appearance. I can't find the document on line, it is here somewhere on LB, not sure where.
HIV is a lab made disease. It is part sheep virus.
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Post by itchin4answers on Oct 17, 2012 4:43:01 GMT -5
I'd read an article online that said 100 years ago cancer was found to be a fungus (? ) that could change it's appearance. I can't find the document on line, it is here somewhere on LB, not sure where. HIV is a lab made disease. It is part sheep virus. Here's the cancer article I mentioned above; Cancer Fungus: The Link Between The Microbe And Cancer www.alternative-cancer-care.com/Cancer_Fungus.html
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Post by ctbarb on Oct 19, 2012 12:05:10 GMT -5
Dear Toni and all, Remember my research of several years ago here on this site, that ultimately proved that I had Schistosomiasis? This came about from my having fresh water brought in from the local reservoir that was loaded with snails! I then went to FL to visit my son where I ate fresh cooked crab...that had Schistosomes as an added feature...which I learned all too late. After a myriad of doctors from leading institutions, all nay-saying that it just couldn't happen here...I was able to prove with digital microscopic photos taken from my own body, that I did indeed have Schistosomiasis! It was S. mansoni to be exact...and they still continued to say "YOU CAN'T GET THAT HERE!" After having been lied to by the Powers that Be, that the test could only be done thru the CDC (which is not true), the tests were ultimately done - no thanks to the local medical community - and they were positive for S. mansoni!!! Even then, they said, "This is just not possible unless you left the country."! I had NOT left the country, I had only to go to FL where thousands of ships come in from all over the world! I ate fresh, cooked crabmeat (from where I don't recall). The S. mansoni continued to live and thrive in my body, where I obtained hundereds of samples of cercaria and photographed them and took them to Harvard Med! Ultimately, I also had live samples of fullgrown S. mansoni worms come from my body. So. just because they "say" that this can't be so, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, because I am here to tell you THAT IT DOES!!! S. mansoni also produces a pseudotumour in the body, much appearing like a cancerous growth. Without proper testing and samples from the body it is most difficult to prove unless you die and an autopsy is thoroughly done... Good luck to all, and don't take NO for an answer! Do your own due diligence when you can...take photos, samples, etc., but don't expect to have some ER Doc take you seriously! These visits are all part of my permanent health record now...along with new documentation stating that I am NOT DOP!!! You must request that adequate updates be done to correct any future medical folks from assuming that you are indeed crazy! I did this, and screamed loudly until I saw that it was done! CTBarb
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Post by toni on Oct 20, 2012 9:47:25 GMT -5
Dear Toni and all, Remember my research of several years ago here on this site, that ultimately proved that I had Schistosomiasis? This came about from my having fresh water brought in from the local reservoir that was loaded with snails! I then went to FL to visit my son where I ate fresh cooked crab...that had Schistosomes as an added feature...which I learned all too late. After a myriad of doctors from leading institutions, all nay-saying that it just couldn't happen here...I was able to prove with digital microscopic photos taken from my own body, that I did indeed have Schistosomiasis! It was S. mansoni to be exact...and they still continued to say "YOU CAN'T GET THAT HERE!" After having been lied to by the Powers that Be, that the test could only be done thru the CDC (which is not true), the tests were ultimately done - no thanks to the local medical community - and they were positive for S. mansoni!!! Even then, they said, "This is just not possible unless you left the country."! I had NOT left the country, I had only to go to FL where thousands of ships come in from all over the world! I ate fresh, cooked crabmeat (from where I don't recall). The S. mansoni continued to live and thrive in my body, where I obtained hundereds of samples of cercaria and photographed them and took them to Harvard Med! Ultimately, I also had live samples of fullgrown S. mansoni worms come from my body. So. just because they "say" that this can't be so, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, because I am here to tell you THAT IT DOES!!! S. mansoni also produces a pseudotumour in the body, much appearing like a cancerous growth. Without proper testing and samples from the body it is most difficult to prove unless you die and an autopsy is thoroughly done... Good luck to all, and don't take NO for an answer! Do your own due diligence when you can...take photos, samples, etc., but don't expect to have some ER Doc take you seriously! These visits are all part of my permanent health record now...along with new documentation stating that I am NOT DOP!!! You must request that adequate updates be done to correct any future medical folks from assuming that you are indeed crazy! I did this, and screamed loudly until I saw that it was done! CTBarb Hi Barb, Yep, I sure do remember all that regarding the schistosomes that you'd gone through, and I'm sure sorry. I am so glad you were successful with stopping their DOP stamp. Great going Barb that's wonderful. Great post, everything you've said.
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