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Post by Baraka Obam on Jan 13, 2013 20:33:44 GMT -5
Demodex, ah ha, David was not speaking of demodex Toni it was scabdraggers videos that were removed showing a tiny creature having fun eating or moving stuff around so he could eat,
Anyway scab took them off of the site for some reason, to say they are mites you must know the name, the same as you would do when identifying anything else, like identifying a raccoon as a dog, bear, cat or other animal because it shares the traits of all.
I used to have two as pets, they are very violent creatures when they get upset, LOL.
Most people are invaded by demodex I have taken some out of my skin before, very common, ugly as hell scary for most of you ladies, I must say they really look disgusting.
If you want to see them push with your fingers on the sides, end of the nose, when a sebum like white spew comes out take it and put it under the microscope you will see one ugly creature, they could make horror movies with this creature.
if you have put them in bio bags there is a chance of contamination, actually this was what I was going to work on with the phorid fly.
I was going to make a better cleaner, or cleanest situation to try to make sure there was NO contamination from any outside involvement.
Still if you do not have mites scabdradder anymore as you stated how did these get in the bio bag?
Oh one last thing with all of the multitudes of tubes of parasite treatments how could anything be living inside of you, unless your eating them daily? Just wondering, its a question that bounces around in my mind.
I am sorry if I seem like a pain but all of these questions come up because you see I read your posts.
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Post by toni on Jan 14, 2013 8:58:38 GMT -5
Toni, are there any pics of your mites? Scab, Didn't you see them before when I posted them here? If not, I'll find some video.
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Post by toni on Jan 14, 2013 9:01:10 GMT -5
Baraka,
I seriously believe David is speaking "only" of Demodex mites.
Lets ask him. ;D
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Post by toni on Jan 14, 2013 9:02:27 GMT -5
David...
When you speak/post of "mites" - are you referring to any other mite other than the (demodex)?
Thank you!
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Post by toni on Jan 14, 2013 9:11:51 GMT -5
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Post by scabdraggr on Jan 14, 2013 10:27:16 GMT -5
Demodex mites are an incidental species and not analogous to any species occurring from the Morgellons Disease. I see them as an opportunistic animal, that arrives due to a compromised individual attracting species, which are secondary and that belong to a group of organisms, which are part of a biological process. It's really difficult for a human, sick or healthy, to avoid the mites that are so plentiful around us at all times. It's my perception, that if the correct pathogen is understood, then the mite issue will resolve itself. It's good to recognize the presence of mites, on and within m sufferers, yet they are but a small piece of a much larger puzzle.
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Post by Lynn on Jan 14, 2013 13:16:59 GMT -5
Toni
That is what came out of the inside of each arm. Unbroken skin over two years ago when I had different stages and different bugs living on me. They were very bloated and turned milky white. The first one was half an inch a week later the second one from the other inside arm was over an inch and in perfect shape. At first glance under a hand held 5x magnifying glass I though it was an inch worm with no back legs. The inside of my arms where a nurse draws blood. Had this rash that did not hurt nor itch. It was just red and I felt something irritating the area and gently rubbed when out of unbroken skin came this slightly gooey lump. The first one I rubbed to hard and mutilate it a little so I question what I was seeing, but when the same thing bigger came out a week later off the other arm from me rubbing and in perfect condition. I knew it was a bug.
I think you had posted this here once a while back or someone one of there findings of this specimen when I finally realized it was a stage of a mite and not an inch worm and that the sea salt scrubs I used in the shower bloated it up until it could not hid any longer under the skin or hair folical or pores and I was able to gently rub it right out.
I still feel it is like they are around everywhere. They are suppose to be, but our body is attracting them and instead of living on an animal or plant they hitch a ride on us. I also wonder if nerve damage makes us more irritated by them when they do come on board. Back when I could not get warm and froze all year round and wore a sweater even in 102 weather. I was in more pain and the biting and digging more intense, but there was so many more and just their doing could had made the skin and nerves too sensitive at the time. In fact when I go through a mini session of getting a small cluster attacking me all at once I start to get the chills. So I believe my body is reacting to the toxins from their biting and digging around.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by toni on Jan 14, 2013 13:36:14 GMT -5
Scab, you said in your post:
It's my perception, that if the correct pathogen is understood, then the mite issue will resolve itself.
Toni says: I totally agree.
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Post by toni on Jan 14, 2013 13:41:08 GMT -5
Hi Lynn,
Gosh, I wish we could have seen yours too (the worm looking one).
I don't know what that could have been.
These "demodex mites" are only able to be seen with at least a 60X magnification. In fact, the legs can't be made out unless the scope is around 200X mag.
I sure don't know what to think about 'other critters' as the Demodex mites are the only one's I've seen.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jan 14, 2013 14:32:40 GMT -5
I will show you mine if you show me yours, LOL. Lynn, it is quite common for morgenites to have rice like or seed like, white and yellow items come from the skin, some are firm and others are mushy and will disintegrate easily. Tony you will NEVER get rid of dust mites, never never ever, it can not be done if you live on this planet you will have them. I can see all the bug nuts running to the shower. do not bother, after a shower their numbers explode. Now I can see people washing without any water and using only NEEM oil or some other disgusting smelling lotion to kill bugs. Funny thing is, you had Demodex and dust mites all your life, since you got itching they are important, neem away bug brother and sister. I will know you when I meet you. LOL. Tony you can get DEMODEX out of your nose very easy, most everyone has them, if you squeeze between the fingernails you should see goo raise up out of the pores, put this on the microscope, beautiful they are in the sebum. Here is a picture of scabies, www.youngwomenshealth.org/scabies.htmlHere is a picture of the very common DUST MITE which we all have and lots of them they have been around since the beginning of time, LOL. Nothing new or exciting www.apartmenttherapy.com/dust-and-dust-mite-proof-your-105222While your looking at all the buggies look at all the things you can do to make your home free of them, LOL, I know I just sent 140 people on a frantic house clean and redecoration Then we have Mr. Demodex, A bug of opportunity, LOL well of course he is scab dude, the opportunity is a nice greasy meal from any humans pores, they do not have to be ill in any way. Almost everyone has them in their eye lash holes. www.psmicrographs.co.uk/follicle-mite--demodex-folliculorum-/science-image/80016336These things are not new or dangerous, they have been cleaning up our bodys since the first homo sapien had a chicken dinner. OMG and he may have got bird mites from that. As my mother said, after I told her I had the crabs, with fire and brimstone shooting from her eyes in a tone reserved for Moses, (LAY DOWN WITH DOGS AND GET FLEAS, LOL, my mom thought crabs were a comunicable disease, LOL, the ladys of the house all started to screem and cry. I guess I should have just picked up a container of BARK at the drug store and got rid of my issue and not said anything.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jan 14, 2013 14:57:12 GMT -5
Having mites inside ones digestive tract, prostrate gland, kidneys, thyroid, gall bladder and other internal organs, is a different set of areas of concern. The chewing up of my prostrate gland was enough to send me into orbit. Now, if I could just get those worms out of my testicles, for good.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jan 14, 2013 16:00:56 GMT -5
PROOF of parasitc involvment has not been established, how do you suppose you will do that, just keep saying it and people will believe you, I see it works with some people, they do not think only believe, its like everyone around them is smart and they are not, if I could only get a dog to talk, LOL .
Their threshold of proof is usually lip service of idiots, kill the man that asks questions, LOL, he is a liar.
No wonder the evil can sell the most horrible products that do nothing, most people will believe anything you tell them, even when the voice of reason comes along, they are more likely to kill the messenger of fact and make the liar their KING.
One fellow posted a picture of a sand spur he said grew out of his skin, LOL it was on MDR site, I knew what it was, instantly the masses started to comment, how horrible, I had one like it, do you think it is a bug, when I posted it was a sand spur and he was a idiot, that was not received well, the people that went along and agreed with the lie said nothing more, still I was told off, how did I know, LOL, how, I have them in my yard by the thousands if I do not mow.
The person that brings unpopular reality along with them by tractor and trailer load will always be outdone by the fantasy spinner.
This is how Jesus got himself hanging from a cross, unpopular talk, even though he spoke of goodness, kindness and wrong doings, the spin doctors easily out did him.
That's exactly why we have a President that hands out money to baby factories and people that have never in their lives had a job, because this president promises easy street for everyone, get the rich man, he is the culprit, the rich man left America 20 years ago with his factory's, LOL.
People all want to hear what they want to believe anything else is a lie.
I have a cure would be the perfect lie here, cure cure cure cure cure, that's all one has to say and everyone listens.
I feed my lesions broiled pork and I am cured one fellow says, another says you have to put barbecue on the pork, another says its not pork at all but chicken, after all think about it, chicken soup, yes chicken soup cures everything, LOL.
You want to know what I want to hear, real facts, things that are not based on false innuendos, myths and wives tales. The reason I follow what people say is most times they have no proof but still go on with the tale.
SCABDRAGGER if you have blood pressure problem, I can not say for sure but I have told you about a change in my prostate since using blood pressure medication. Lysinaprill and amlodipine besylate.
I can not PROVE the connection but ever since I started there is no pain, at times before (YEARS) it felt like i was sitting on a walnut really hard, at other times it felt bigger like a small orange.
My ability never diminished, so I assume that I can still make little Baraka Obams to spread truth (REALITY), justice and the American way around the world, LOL aren't you all glad!!! LOL.
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Post by ruthintoronto on Jan 14, 2013 16:12:52 GMT -5
From Baraka
"My ability never diminished, so I assume that I can still make little Baraka Obams to spread truth (REALITY), justice and the American way around the world, LOL aren't you all glad!!! LOL. "
Oh My God you do make me laugh. Thanks.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jan 14, 2013 16:18:48 GMT -5
Always changing the focus so that the facts are unable to be presented, is obviously your agenda and methodology for preventing a general concensus from being developed. It's obvious that your rude behavior is preplanned and with a purpose other than a discussion of whatever information that anyone presents here on these forums and at MDR, which is obvious, as almost no one now posts there and it's obvious to many, that you hurt so many, that came here with the need to have themselves heard. If only we could see ourselves as others see us! You'll never shut me up with your stand at a bully pulpit. Big letters and long rants only validate the perception that something ugly is going on with your actions. The truth may well be that some entity is going to lose a lot when the truth comes out. if you aren't working for them then you should be as the agenda you're pursuing is something that they need. The truth will find you out and you will be judged accordingly for your actions that have been taken against other such as myself.
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Post by ruthintoronto on Jan 14, 2013 16:37:52 GMT -5
Baraka, the difference in the mites is that it is sytematic, hope I spelled that right. I am begining to wonder if we are infected with an animal mite that has never infected humans before.
We all have mites yes, but these mites are out of control. I proved it again to myself when I was reinfected by a dog. The owner did not seem to have a problem, but I walked out of that house and began to develop over 60 sores. Again I say Thank Toni for Mustard. My sores are now healing and looks like no new ones, although I did get a rash in each pore but even that is clearing.
Another wierd thing is that my feet turn black, like a film,no my feet are not dirty. It's lilke a mold only at certain times.
I wanted to add I do not think mites are the main or only problem, but they are a problem. I think we have a fungus on our skin that attracks this crap. I am very in to having it gone. How were we changed, I do not know.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jan 14, 2013 17:13:04 GMT -5
Thats mean, real mean, naughty, LOL.
This quote below is spin doctorism, LOL, I TRY to bring truth in facts presented and the spin doctor says I am trying to take over the world, LOL.
I am part of the Illuminati, a Builderburger, In my defense if I am anything burger its more McDonald's hamburger than anything else.
You say I will pay after I die, OMG Scab, come on, I just want facts brother, not conjured up falsehoods you spew like goat droppings.
Every time you see a goat from now on I want you to think about what I have said, LOL.
Soon I guess you will say I am Beelzebub himself because I call you on your, so called facts that you find out HOW? LOL.
The fact remains there are no pictures yet of living parasitic creatures man did not face before we had this malady presented to us, and hardly any pictures of the ones man had before this happened. Without proof, two words, NO PROOF, none.
Clouds are proof that smoke is in the air, Water is proof that it has rained, dirt outside is proof it should not be inside, children walking is proof legs have brains, bald heads are proof that it was too hot on top, pubic hair is proof that it is not warm enough below, people wearing cloths in Florida is proof that its colder than you imagine in the sunshine state, waves in the ocean is proof that god is rocking the boat, thunder is Saint Peter bowling in heaven and so on and so on, simplistic meanderings.
What came first the dog or the flea?
My agenda is truth and facts, not lip service. We have enough trouble without people spinning stories.
Present proof, real proof of parasitic involvment not just words, tell me how to get the same results, tell us all, you can not because what your spewing is your feelings or something that you have read and believe.
quote author=scrap492 board=rash thread=15651 post=177320 time=1358198328] Always changing the focus so that the facts are unable to be presented, is obviously your agenda and methodology for preventing a general consensus from being developed. It's obvious that your rude behavior is preplanned and with a purpose other than a discussion of whatever information that anyone presents here on these forums and at MDR, which is obvious, as almost no one now posts there and it's obvious to many, that you hurt so many, that came here with the need to have themselves heard. If only we could see ourselves as others see us! You'll never shut me up with your stand at a bully pulpit. Big letters and long rants only validate the perception that something ugly is going on with your actions. The truth may well be that some entity is going to lose a lot when the truth comes out. if you aren't working for them then you should be as the agenda you're pursuing is something that they need. The truth will find you out and you will be judged accordingly for your actions that have been taken against other such as myself. [/quote]
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jan 14, 2013 17:54:27 GMT -5
Ruth i am glad Toni has helped you heal, it is horrid when one must face the ungly skin problem. The fact that the people in the home do not have issues speaks volumes, the timing of a lesion outbreak I do not know what that says, does it say homes with dogs are the culprit, if it was the people would have issues, or so I would imagine. This is not a designer disease, we all have so many things in common. It would be nice if they set up testing by microscope at least, we could set a temperature of morganites bodys, my temp dropped, we could set a heart beat slow or fast for morgellons, mine went SLOW real slow, we could more understand where the person is in the disease by blood pressure, mine dropped first then went wild, we may check oxygen in the blood, so easy to do with a finger tip monitor. These things are easy to do. Get some microscope experts there, then we would have an idea of what we may all have in common. I do not know why it has not been done, what is wrong with these people and doctors, all in one place at one time and no blood, fecal or urine study. Baraka, the difference in the mites is that it is sytematic, hope I spelled that right. I am begining to wonder if we are infected with an animal mite that has never infected humans before. We all have mites yes, but these mites are out of control. I proved it again to myself when I was reinfected by a dog. The owner did not seem to have a problem, but I walked out of that house and began to develop over 60 sores. Again I say Thank Toni for Mustard. My sores are now healing and looks like no new ones, although I did get a rash in each pore but even that is clearing. Another wierd thing is that my feet turn black, like a film,no my feet are not dirty. It's lilke a mold only at certain times. I wanted to add I do not think mites are the main or only problem, but they are a problem. I think we have a fungus on our skin that attracks this crap. I am very in to having it gone. How were we changed, I do not know.
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Post by davidbourke on Jan 14, 2013 20:13:35 GMT -5
Hi friends, @scabdraggr - I'm happy these little beggars aren't a problem for you any longer. How did you kill them? The only organism that the human demodex mites have a symbiotic relationship with is the fungus that lives in their gut which allows them to digest human keratin so efficiently that it has enabled them to evolve without an anus. The relationship they have with us is called commensal. This means they get all the benefits and we get none. Which means they're parasites, except it's a fancier word! I'm not aware of any mite that has any form of relationship with animals other than parasitic, or commensal. All mites are classed as pests. Thanks for the images of the hair follicles. I'm sitting here dumbfounded because I've got images of my own follicles in my website galleries that look exactly like that. I'd be very grateful if you could email me your more disturbing ones at this link: www.delusionalinsects.com/contact-form/index.phpYour worm problem sounds horrendous. If these worms are free-floating, they could easily be seen and removed endoscopically under local anaesthetic. I would approach a good urologist in your shoes - and say nothing about infestations, just that you seem to have extra objects in there (if they're big enough to feel) or shooting pains/odd sensations/whatever (if they're not). Lynn - if you're worried about osteoporosis, you really should ask your doctor to schedule a DEXA scan to measure your bone density. If the result is less than normal, DON'T see an endocrinologist. Instead, visit the following website: saveourbones.com/Spend $67 on the Power Package. My bone density has increased far more in 18 months of using this than it did in six and a half years of very dangerous drugs. So much so that I no longer have osteoporosis. The DE will help a lot, too. And the recipes, which are all about alkalizing your system, are absolutely delicious, too. Not sure about the veg caps though. Remember, it's a heaped tablespoon you have to get down in one go. I'd try putting it in something you find pleasant and easy to drink rather than plain water - milk, perhaps. Just make sure you stir it well and drink it all at one quick sitting. If you decide to try the radio show cure, please let us know how you get on. With regard to the worm-like object you took from your arm, it couldn't have been a mite life stage. Most mites are little larger than a period at the end of a sentence. And body temperatures for Morgellons sufferers have been found to be consistently lower than normal. In fact, it's one of the informal indicators for Morgellons. @baraka Obam - I find some of your posts rude and bordering on the offensive, a trait I've found to be rare among genuine Morgellons sufferers. In fact, I think you'd probably be more at home on the MorgellonsWatch website since you seem to spend so much of your time here being generally and specifically unpleasant and trying to debunk human infestations and their possible cures. Nevertheless, I'll answer you for the last time on this forum because I no longer trust that you are what you say you are - I think you're an internet shill. What is training? It is the experience of one or many, condensed in time and passed on to another. I can look at an insect and say it's a mite because I've gone to the trouble of researching mites on entomology websites and becoming familiar with documents such as the USAF's "Field Guide to Venomous and Medically Important Invertebrates Affecting Military Operations" and the "Atlas of Medical Parasitology." I research. What kind of mite is it? You mean, out of all the 48,200 known species of mites? Give me a break. Here's some images for you - you go take a look and see if you can identify it: www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=mites&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=tIP0UMiXB8m3hQePuYDgCw&biw=1104&bih=1418&sei=uYP0UJDbLcWZhQezoYDQDgIt might interest you to know that no one is ever "invaded" by demodex mites - we receive them from our mothers very soon after we're born. Normally, they're kept in check and confined to our eyelash follicles by our immune systems. Thus the popular name "eyelash mites." When your immune system becomes damaged, this allows your own demodex mites to proliferate. And it's incorrect to say that you can never get rid of dust mites. You can, using a decent ozone generator. Also, please cite verifiable evidence for your assertion that after a shower, mite numbers increase. And as for demodex mites "cleaning up our bodies," what on earth gave you that fanciful idea? ruthintoronto - Thank you so much for the Dettol "recipe" and instructions. And I believe you're absolutely correct that there is a mould involved in all this, and probably more than one type. In my own case, I've been plagued recently with black mould spots which appear in every room in the house which I frequent - and only in those rooms. I suspect it may be Aspergillus niger, responsible for aspergillosis. No doubt this, too - like Dictyostelium discoideum - has been bioengineered. Because mould is supposed to need damp to grow - and my home is possibly one of the driest in Ireland! Interesting that Dr. Mercola states that aspergillosis can cause a "fungal ball" to grow in the lungs - "a tangled ball of fungal fibre called aspergilloma." A tangled ball of fibre - seems familiar, no? All moulds produce mycotoxins, some of which can suppress and even destroy the immune system. I removed it all just before Christmas, but it's back again. This time I lifted some of the tiny mould patches carefully (they're sticky) and scoped them. Every one was like a woven grey/black mat. But what shocked me to the core was that there were red, blue, black and clear fibres woven into them, along with what could be either egg-cases or larval cysts. articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/09/03/molds-making-you-ill.aspxwww.articlesbase.com/non-fiction-articles/the-dangers-of-aspergillus-mold-179882.htmlvoices.yahoo.com/aspergillus-mold-allergies-318718.htmlPersistent moulds can usually be dealt with by buying a decent ozone generator. Don't buy an air ionizer. The manufacturers claim that ionization causes dust particles to fall out of the air to the floor. This is untrue - it causes them to stick to the walls, doors, and windows. Which is not a good idea where Morgellons artefacts are concerned. Cleaning small amounts of surface mould is easy - wipe the area with neat distilled white vinegar. Then follow up by wiping with a solution of baking soda (one tablespoon to a pint of water). Finish by drying thoroughly. Concerning your feet turning black, note that our feet serve as a reservoir of pathogens and parasites - for some reason, our extremities are not as well served by our immune system as the rest of us (possibly to do with circulation). Could be mould. Or heavy metals. Are you mercury-compromised? @ toni - in the original post, I was referring to demodex mites. Subsequent to scabdraggr's video post, I was talking about the mites shown therein. itchin4answers - you're welcome! To close, I'll just say that I pushed a nice fat black speck out of my left foot last night with ozonated coconut oil. I saved it and scoped it this morning. It's a tightly wound tangle of black and red fibres. And I haven't worn socks for 18 months. All wood floors and no mats. So tomorrow I buy a bottle of red wine, bite the bullet, and do the spit test. Thing is, I've known for some time that I have most, if not all, of the symptoms of Morgellons (including the biofilms) - but no lesions. Wish me luck! Love and light to all (including Mr. Obam). David.
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Post by davidbourke on Jan 14, 2013 20:25:02 GMT -5
toni - I'm very sorry that I haven't replied to your email yet. I've been rushing around trying to put out about a hundred fires. But I promise I'll email you Tuesday. Love and light to you, my good friend. David.
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Post by toni on Jan 14, 2013 20:31:31 GMT -5
toni - I'm very sorry that I haven't replied to your email yet. I've been rushing around trying to put out about a hundred fires. But I promise I'll email you Tuesday. Love and light to you, my good friend. David. Hi David, And thank you. Love and light to you too, my friend
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