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Post by Harry on Feb 28, 2013 15:51:02 GMT -5
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Post by awareseattle on Feb 28, 2013 18:00:41 GMT -5
The magnified photos of the fibers that she showed were blurred. She doesn't know how to focus a microscope or get clearer photos? She said it was greatly magnified, when her specimens were only magnified about 150 or 200X. She said she's seen 400 or 500 patients with Morgellons, yet can't get a clear magnified photo of specimens. A child could take better photos with a $70 toy microscope. However, she has theories that Morgellons is a parasite, AND is vectored via pets. Blaming the pets for Morgellons in public video is irresponsible - people might be putting down their pets or giving them away because of her comment. She has not proven the parasite, or the pet zoonotic theory. Also, she says parasite meds work against Morgellons, yet the consensus on the net seems to be that parasite meds do NOT work against Morgellons. She does not share on the video which parasite meds she is using - is she advertising her services?
Too much weakness in her theories.
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Post by Harry on Mar 1, 2013 15:50:16 GMT -5
Hi aware thank you for your input, but I looking for people that have seen this Doctor to find out if she helped them, I was thinking about going to her but I would have to fly to Florida to see her so I need fedback from people that have seen her & if what she is doing is helpful, I don't think she would think of people giving up their pets & I don't know what kind of meds. she is using, that is my concern because you are right & I know many plus myself that have used antiparasitics & yes it has not worked for the people I know, but is she using a combination that would work is what I'm looking for, I did lots of research on parasite infection & one needs to use a combination for certain durations to get rid of the parasite, this I understand & this is the answer I'm looking for. Thank you again Aware be well
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Post by lostintime on Mar 2, 2013 3:13:07 GMT -5
I have not been a patient of Dr Uppal but I met her a couple years back. I believe she has a genuine concern for morgellon sufferers. I don’t know what her treatment would be but I am sure you could discuss your options and listen to your impute. She was working on getting a grant or approval to bring in a drug from India but I don’t think that worked out. She has no problem holding a two way conversation so I think it would be worth going.
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Post by awareseattle on Mar 2, 2013 5:36:52 GMT -5
Well, Doc, If you get a prescription from her that treats Morgellons adequately, and you come back here and share the prescription; you will be our new Morg hero! : )
Maybe call her office and ask them if they would be able to relay her parasite prescription to you or your doctor, without you seeing her. Sometimes doctors will do that. Or you could have her consult with your primary care doctor over the phone, if you have such a doctor.
If she knows medication that works against Morgellons, she would have really helped the world if she said what the medications were, in the video. And if she understood how Morgellons grows on most anything, she would know that you don't need a pet as a go-between, before Morgellons can affect a human.
If she has treated 100's of Morgellons patients successfully, it would seem that her prescription would have leaked onto the internet perhaps? She seems concerned - just doesn't seem knowledgeable enough.
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Post by lostintime on Mar 2, 2013 12:44:50 GMT -5
I had to watch the video twice but I did not hear she has successfully treated 100's of people. Being successfully treated and being cured are two different things. It is obvious she is not a public speaker, which is of no great concern. I have been to lots of doctors that didn’t give a damn about me and just took my money. If I had to choose between two kinds of doctors I would rather see somebody that cares. Nobody and I mean Nobody has a cure for morgellons because there is no cure. By the time you figure out you have it is too late, you will suffer many years and possibly the rest of your life.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Mar 2, 2013 14:28:26 GMT -5
I do not know if she actually cares, LOL, but her demeanor may be foreign clinical. She gives you time, she asks many questions, as I have said for the person going mad that can not get off the idea that itching is bugs she may possibly set your mind at ease. The only problem I see is her MIND SET and I do mean SET as many here are, her mind set is myasis. You know how I ask for pictures and videos all the time showing overwhelming infestation issues then receive nothing but lip service of how I am evil. My friends that is mind set, so when a doctor will not adventure your stuck in a treatment protocol that does not adapt and overcome the issue. You are on a one way road. Because I have heard other member state they have had good results with malarial drugs and my next door neighbor has returned from the dead because of them, I would more likely try to find a doctor that would dispense this , these drugs for trial. A mix of malaria and myasis search, no word on this mixture. www.ehealthme.com/cs/malaria/myiasisI do not imagine this woman contrives B/S she just has an opinion and will not part with it, she said my video showed this aspect, I do not think she is correct. I must tell you she wanted to use me as a test dummy with this drug, warning , she was going to use it even though I was having trouble with my kidneys, YEAH!!! Do I think she has CURED or even helped hundreds come on people be real, where are these people, some of them would have come to this site. She will give you good attention for your money and you will get to speak, I am here in the area. I will pick you up at the airport and bring you there to the doctor you know that, that depends on where I am at the time you decide to do this trip. I am here now, tomorrow I just do not know. i will also go in with you if you like, two morgellons patients will get alot more for your money than one will, I am well versed in this as well as you are, but I am not the patient and will be thinking of questions, being the patient many people can not imagine questions and get shorted on time and answers. You know I will not let her off easy on the reason for her hypotheses of this disease being related to myasis. I may be able also to give you a place to stay, it is a bungalow it depends on if its rented or not when you plan this trip With these kinds of savings you could rent a car, that would give you vacation to the Gulf of Mexico and doctor visit. She most likely will not remember me and that will be good. Then who am I, just an old dirt farmer.
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Post by Harry on Mar 2, 2013 20:55:59 GMT -5
thanks everyone, I watched it once more after I red what Lost said & thank you because when she was asked if she was helping people she stated they were trying, this leads me to believe she doesn't really know, I check with one gal on Facebook Debbie that said she saved her life, but I believe she was talking about Lyme Disease, I'm not on many support site like I was years ago, seems like you here the same thing all over again & it gets a bit weary for me know, thanks Aware, Lost & Bam, will drop by now & then, I'll let you know surely if I get some good information, your right Aware she don't state what she is using, she also stated the C D C was conducting a study so this video is older then it was posted, be well.
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Post by Harry on Mar 2, 2013 21:15:47 GMT -5
she also stated more than 90% of the people have pets that act as a host crossover, do you folks have pets or someone close to you you were seeing steadily??. I got it from a friend that had two flea infested cats & when I did her a favor putting an A C unit in her window one of the cats started to run out & I grabbed it not knowing it had open lesions on their stomach & they only had this for about a two weeks or so, I knew something with her was very wrong she had lesions from head to toe, at this time we had no clue what Morgellons Disease was, her cats world rub against the window screens & every week the grounds keepers would mow the lawn, she lived in the 1st floor apt. so they were blowing what ever was on the lawn right into her house & the cats were right there
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Post by awareseattle on Mar 3, 2013 3:51:44 GMT -5
Doc, You can probably catch Morgellons from ANYTHING that has it. If there is Morgellons slime on a wall in a public bathroom, you could probably get it by brushing up against that wall. A pet can probably catch it from a human AND a human can probably catch it from a pet. Who really knows.
But her theory in the video is that the "pet" is the mandatory factor in order for humans to get Morgellons. I doubt it. I'm sure you can get Morgellons without a pet. So I think her logic is off.
Also, Doc - you may have caught Morgellons from a cat. BUT that does not mean a cat (or other animal) is required for you to catch Morgellons.
This Morgellons seems to be everywhere in the environment - probably a person's immunity strength is what determines a Morgellons infection or not.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Mar 3, 2013 8:19:31 GMT -5
Awareseattle, you are more than right, her idea screams of pre disposed idea, nothing to do with scientific investigation.
It is way more likely the human infected the animals.
Man himself is the culprit, man is the one that must have sex everywhere they go, the military was the avenue and I know it, fluid exchange was the situation at hand.
Do the math, 1,000,000 soldiers come home with a long term stealthy disease, how many women do they have sex with, how many men do the infected women have sex with, one randy drunk town floosey could have sex with 1000 men or more to be real.
My daughter is starting to get some problems with her skin makeup will not cover, this is going to be a problem for her soon, i feel sorry for her.
Uppals idea is quite flawed, it is human sexual contact or fluid exchange, blood transfusion, that spreads the disease, that is as simple as it is.
I am sorry get over your pur selves and jump on the disease by human contact OR birth.
You know what I can not believe, people leave fluid exchange between humans out of the fold.
An infected mother has this in her blood, even if it wasn't the child comes out of her vagina, think now, would there be any chance at all that a woman has this in her sex organ.
You know there is the probabable and the unprobable, what I am suggesting is the most prolific way to aquire disease, why is it all of the researchers and half of the members are looking for infected rocks, bugs, fish, and such bizzaro avenues.
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Post by Harry on Mar 3, 2013 16:01:45 GMT -5
no it's not Aware as many I spoke to got it from Gardening & I do know many with pet's, of all the people I spoke to over the last 7 years about 95% or so had pets, I did a lots of research & understand that parasites can cross from animal to humans, but is it truly right?, some say they got it after a bite from a blood parasite such as a mite, flea, tick & so on, so we may feel as we will, but as one person put it was it the chicken or the egg?. almost forgot some have said they got it from slime mold also, the thing is once I came in contact with this cat with open lesions it took 5 & 1/2 weeks before I got my 1st lesion, my point is this, think of all the places & things you have done in all that time. I feel it's important to try to put this puzzle together, remember it took 5 & 1/2 weeks, thank you Awre
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Post by Harry on Mar 3, 2013 16:35:19 GMT -5
lol, Bam you still funny as ever my friend & your right, man has created much of the junk that is out there, be well guy's very nice talking with you
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Post by awareseattle on Mar 3, 2013 18:20:42 GMT -5
Baraka - with what comes out of the skin, it is unlikely the fluid exchange or sex is required to transmit either. Morgellons seems to be everywhere in the environment, with everyone breathing it in. I think everyone everywhere has been exposed, and those with weak immune systems develop full blown Morgellons. That is my unproven theory.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Mar 3, 2013 19:19:47 GMT -5
I do believe your near correct.
I do not believe the material in the environment can propagate but I am quite sure a kiss, or manual stimulation with fingers of a infected person in the vagina can transfer the material from the skin of a afflicted person.
The main form of the transfer WAS at one time humans and their sexual contact, now, with the material being in the water from human waste, who knows, can the material reproduce in variable temperature water.
That there I am not sure of, I think its ability to multiply and flourish diminishes without the correct temperature.
It does seem with all of us running a lower body temperature that this entity has learned how to shut down 98.6 to 96. something.
The fact that a huge amount of people, especially women are losing their thyroid function says something.
I do know this, I am in the ballpark of how this plague got started.
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Post by homeworld on Mar 6, 2013 12:00:17 GMT -5
The magnified photos of the fibers that she showed were blurred. She doesn't know how to focus a microscope or get clearer photos? She said it was greatly magnified, when her specimens were only magnified about 150 or 200X. She said she's seen 400 or 500 patients with Morgellons, yet can't get a clear magnified photo of specimens. A child could take better photos with a $70 toy microscope. However, she has theories that Morgellons is a parasite, AND is vectored via pets. Blaming the pets for Morgellons in public video is irresponsible - people might be putting down their pets or giving them away because of her comment. She has not proven the parasite, or the pet zoonotic theory. Also, she says parasite meds work against Morgellons, yet the consensus on the net seems to be that parasite meds do NOT work against Morgellons. She does not share on the video which parasite meds she is using - is she advertising her services? Too much weakness in her theories. ..this "dr" has airtime on a NJ broadcast station..and this is as good a case as she can present? A potentially huge audience...that could have been presented with a much more coherent and logical case demonstrating what the mOrgs is..and that it is in fact a real pathology..not a mental disorder. But...no. The dear doc apparently does not find it necessary to put together an effective/helpful presentation Yes..the time constraints of a "TV Newz Snippet" are a challenge. However..much could have been demonstrated in those six minutes you frittered away. ..there is no excuse for such poor quality microphotographs when even a $50 USB scope can do a much better job of focusing than she presented. What was the source of the specimen? What is the magnification? Why not a sequence of photos..showing how "the parasite" presents on the skin.. and then start bumping up the magnification? A magnified pic of these "parasites" does tend to look too much like the "textile threads" ...without context..that is exactly what many of the viewers are going to conclude. ..she has her theories..well la-de-da. "it's a parasite"..[based on what evidence?] "it's a parasite..so it needs a host"..[another unsupported quantum leap of opinion.] the host is probably the house pet cat/dog..since they are found with the fibers. ... ...*stare* hey..doc..assuming that your nest of theories are correct.. did it ever cross your mind that the HUMAN is the host..and is passing it to the critters? ...and of course...there will be the "suggestible" folks in TV land that see this broadcast and take the "WAG's" [wild ass guesswork] of the "dr" and conclude that.."omg..Snowball/Fluffy/Rover gave me this!...but how can I give my pet to someone only to have them infected with "the fiber parasite".. No..my dear pet must be euthanized... [imagine the mental trauma to some folks whose sole campanion in this horror show..is their pet...and now they feel that they must kill their companion to "get better"?] ... ...what is with all the "tap dancing" to pin the "blame" on housepets? All of the many different manifestations of the mOrg phenomena...that I have observed and photgraphed on and in me...I have observed and photographed and posted online for all to see.* * the YT vids I posted of what is in the water supply are quite damning. The water is CHOKED with fibers and their associated gel crap. * www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzGwjmn1t3g. ...this ..*coff* "parasite...is in the water supply in NJ in huge quanties..at least it is in the Morris County area. I was foolish enough to be drinking tap water for a while.. then..almost as foolishly..expected that the countertop water filters would be cleaning the water. [ummm..No. PUR and Brita filters are damn near useless.. they make better paperweights than they do water filters.]
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Post by Baraka Obam on Mar 6, 2013 17:09:48 GMT -5
If you have ever taken a inder counter water filter apart you would not like at all what you see. The water filter can filter all it wants to but in time the filth grows throughout the filter. There is a question also when you filter all your water do you also remove all the minerals you should have. If this is the case you need to take a good mineral supplament. What can you do about the possible filth that your going to drink that is growing on the out sides of the filter. First off I put the filter on the hot water side so the heat can destroy some of the pathogens that can not exist when temperature changes. When I fill a bottle I first run the water throught the filter untill it is hot and let it run for 3 minutes, THEN I always fill 3 one gallon glass jars. These jars are old gallow wine jugs with the finger hole to allow you to pick it up. I drink much water so I am going to increase this to 4. Water needs to be stored in glass not plastic. Then I use a good old ozone machine to clean it out the rest of the way. Simple and easy. You can buy a nice under the counter filter system in HOME DEPOT for a resonable sum. waterfilters.mercola.com/drinking-water-filter.aspxwww.aquasana.com/product_detail.php?product_id=20 www.consumersearch.com/water-filters
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Post by awareseattle on Mar 6, 2013 19:59:51 GMT -5
The magnified photos of the fibers that she showed were blurred. She doesn't know how to focus a microscope or get clearer photos? She said it was greatly magnified, when her specimens were only magnified about 150 or 200X. She said she's seen 400 or 500 patients with Morgellons, yet can't get a clear magnified photo of specimens. A child could take better photos with a $70 toy microscope. However, she has theories that Morgellons is a parasite, AND is vectored via pets. Blaming the pets for Morgellons in public video is irresponsible - people might be putting down their pets or giving them away because of her comment. She has not proven the parasite, or the pet zoonotic theory. Also, she says parasite meds work against Morgellons, yet the consensus on the net seems to be that parasite meds do NOT work against Morgellons. She does not share on the video which parasite meds she is using - is she advertising her services? Too much weakness in her theories. ..this "dr" has airtime on a NJ broadcast station..and this is as good a case as she can present? A potentially huge audience...that could have been presented with a much more coherent and logical case demonstrating what the mOrgs is..and that it is in fact a real pathology..not a mental disorder. But...no. The dear doc apparently does not find it necessary to put together an effective/helpful presentation Yes..the time constraints of a "TV Newz Snippet" are a challenge. However..much could have been demonstrated in those six minutes you frittered away. ..there is no excuse for such poor quality microphotographs when even a $50 USB scope can do a much better job of focusing than she presented. What was the source of the specimen? What is the magnification? Why not a sequence of photos..showing how "the parasite" presents on the skin.. and then start bumping up the magnification? A magnified pic of these "parasites" does tend to look too much like the "textile threads" ...without context..that is exactly what many of the viewers are going to conclude. ..she has her theories..well la-de-da. "it's a parasite"..[based on what evidence?] "it's a parasite..so it needs a host"..[another unsupported quantum leap of opinion.] the host is probably the house pet cat/dog..since they are found with the fibers. ... ...*stare* hey..doc..assuming that your nest of theories are correct.. did it ever cross your mind that the HUMAN is the host..and is passing it to the critters? ...and of course...there will be the "suggestible" folks in TV land that see this broadcast and take the "WAG's" [wild ass guesswork] of the "dr" and conclude that.."omg..Snowball/Fluffy/Rover gave me this!...but how can I give my pet to someone only to have them infected with "the fiber parasite".. No..my dear pet must be euthanized... [imagine the mental trauma to some folks whose sole campanion in this horror show..is their pet...and now they feel that they must kill their companion to "get better"?] ... ...what is with all the "tap dancing" to pin the "blame" on housepets? All of the many different manifestations of the mOrg phenomena...that I have observed and photgraphed on and in me...I have observed and photographed and posted online for all to see.* * the YT vids I posted of what is in the water supply are quite damning. The water is CHOKED with fibers and their associated gel crap. * www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzGwjmn1t3g. ...this ..*coff* "parasite...is in the water supply in NJ in huge quanties..at least it is in the Morris County area. I was foolish enough to be drinking tap water for a while.. then..almost as foolishly..expected that the countertop water filters would be cleaning the water. [ummm..No. PUR and Brita filters are damn near useless.. they make better paperweights than they do water filters.]
Yes, this doctor appears to be a paid shill. And it appears the new morgellons red herring / disinfo campaign is: Oh! This must be a new parasite! Here, try some of our parasite meds! (I'm surprised they didn't do that from the beginning because it would make more money for them, than labeling their patients delusional, and then losing them as patients/customers).
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Post by awareseattle on Mar 6, 2013 20:09:32 GMT -5
If you have ever taken a inder counter water filter apart you would not like at all what you see. The water filter can filter all it wants to but in time the filth grows throughout the filter. There is a question also when you filter all your water do you also remove all the minerals you should have. If this is the case you need to take a good mineral supplament. What can you do about the possible filth that your going to drink that is growing on the out sides of the filter. First off I put the filter on the hot water side so the heat can destroy some of the pathogens that can not exist when temperature changes. When I fill a bottle I first run the water throught the filter untill it is hot and let it run for 3 minutes, THEN I always fill 3 one gallon glass jars. These jars are old gallow wine jugs with the finger hole to allow you to pick it up. I drink much water so I am going to increase this to 4. Water needs to be stored in glass not plastic. Then I use a good old ozone machine to clean it out the rest of the way. Simple and easy. You can buy a nice under the counter filter system in HOME DEPOT for a resonable sum. waterfilters.mercola.com/drinking-water-filter.aspxwww.aquasana.com/product_detail.php?product_id=20 www.consumersearch.com/water-filters A huge over-sized, pre-filter is practically required, and all filters needs to be changed out routinely. Really, distilled water is the way to go for drinking because it removes all the fluoride. Even reverse osmosis filters do not remove all the fluoride. Quality minerals can be added to homemade distilled water. And if you filter just the kitchen tap water faucet, then when taking an unfiltered shower, all the chemicals and etc are absorbed into the skin, so a whole house water filtration system is best.
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Post by Baraka Obam on Mar 6, 2013 21:47:06 GMT -5
This is not exactly true, after taking all of the solid filth out and anything that can be filtered or neutralized you use OZONE to take care of breaking down the rest.
Ozone can break down chemicals and kill pathogens.
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