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Post by london2146 on Feb 24, 2006 20:12:37 GMT -5
Here is a 1 page document you should glance at!!! I would save it if I were you. Please know I havethe entire article ( pdf file doc. that goes along with it if anyone would like it. oops............this is the 53 page doc! not the one page one. So if you don't have a fast computer, then I would not open it yet. I will try to just get first page for you up here in a few-London tinyurl.com/l8toe
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Post by london2146 on Feb 24, 2006 20:14:06 GMT -5
oops don't open above unless you have a fast computer!!! It was the entire 53
page document!!! so sorry-
London
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Post by london2146 on Feb 24, 2006 20:26:49 GMT -5
Natural occurrence of arseno compounds in plants, lichens, fungi, algal species, and microorganisms Abstract** Naturally occurring both water- and lipid-soluble arseno compounds, as well as simple methylated arsenicals, which are less toxic than the inorganic species, and arsenoribosides are considered to be non-toxic, consisting of an interesting group of organometallic compounds. These compounds are of great interest, and the structure, function, and also metabolism, partly, has been elucidated. This review focuses primarily on the presence and distribution of organoarsenic compounds in vascular plants, marine and freshwater algal species, lichens, fungi, and microorganisms. Some aspects of the metabolism and transformation of arsenic species in mentioned organisms will also be discussed. tinyurl.com/mz65dL~
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Post by London as a guest on Feb 24, 2006 20:43:15 GMT -5
Well, I'm assuming I'm going too fast or either boring you to death, so I guess i will stop here for a while. Please, just let me know when.....PS I will probably go to bed early tonight ( for once!)
Here's something to remember on GM foods:
New and unique risks from GMOs
unintended effects due to random insertion of foreign DNA rearrangements of foreign DNA unexpected activation of metabolic pathways to produce toxins and allergens horizontal transfer of antibiotic resistance marker genes
London
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Post by London as a guest on Feb 24, 2006 20:49:26 GMT -5
okay, I spoke too early but incase you're still kinda " if-y" on whether GM foods plays a role, then see this. It is short and very easy to read plus it explains a lot as well. tinyurl.com/ewqz6
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Post by london on Feb 24, 2006 20:56:54 GMT -5
Oh, I just have to tell you this.....YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE THE IDIOTS HAVE DONE???
they have engineered corn pollen to express......Bt!!!!!!!! I swear they did. I was
in shock when I read that. These plants have changed our DNA.
Does anyone know more about gm foods? Like I do not know if they have to label them
or not. Do any of you know? I do know they were banned in most of europe and africa but
the states??
London
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Post by cheryln on Feb 24, 2006 21:54:36 GMT -5
London, I also go digging around the net, I found a site listing what the vets had and there was a part saying their saliva was thick and they look for lumps and bumps under the skin. Now how can they have our same issues?
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leighann
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Morgellon's - The point where Nature and Man collide...
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Post by leighann on Feb 24, 2006 23:01:06 GMT -5
I am in the process of researching that very thing in the agriculture part of the Alabama Code. (In other words, The Law). I was browsing over the labeling requirements earlier, but did not have the chance to look in detail. Will advise. LeighAnn
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Post by 2hojo on Feb 24, 2006 23:21:17 GMT -5
London please keep up the research. I think the poisoning is just helping the environment for these things to take hold but not the cause or what they are, just opinion. I didn't have a time to read all the info. Please keep going London. Hojo
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Post by skytroll on Feb 24, 2006 23:27:04 GMT -5
Some suffer from Leishmaniasis. And I do think if they got bit by sandflies they may have this.
In 1991-2 so many were exposed to the biological weapons they exploded. Who knows what was in them.
If they have the same issues, they may have filariasis, that could be the smaller fibrils we see.
And the worm forms in nodules.
Skytroll
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Post by london2146 on Feb 24, 2006 23:54:10 GMT -5
Oh hey guys, actually went off line for a while. wow, My house is a wreck-just noticed, lol; Cherylyn, I honestly do not know the answer to that. Skytroll was talking to you on that one. I'd have to guess that we either got it from them when they came back from war 92 or 93 yr. I believe. Or we just picked up no, I'm not gonna guess> I have no idea! I do know that I was around a good friend for a couple of years (hangin out) and he had been in D. Storm. Hmmm...... Dear Leigh Ann, Thank you, that would be nice. I know I read about that a while back but just don't have the time or strength to go digging thru my files. ( i should have cataloged my files better than I did, but who the heck knew that I'd get so many...arg!) I'm thinking they do not have to tell us just because I have never seen any sign or stamp saying yes or no they are GM foods, but I just really don't know. I know ( this is off top of head) that the Arabid-owhatever>the Rice Plant is mesed up, the Alfalfa, the potato, the cucumber, the tobacco> which I think may rEally have it just as bad as the rice plant does, soybeans and some legumes. Oh yes, throw Broccoli in there too. Dear Ms Hojo, I kind of did not understand your comment/question and although it is Friday, I have not been drinking. I think you might be saying that the arsenic is not what is causing us Morgellons? Well, I think it is certainly part of it. Especially some of the lesions. I am not talking about the wormy ones. But some of the others. Like have you or anyone else ever seen a black scab on you? Had you before you were sick w/Morgellons? My answer to that would be Yes-I have 2 tiny ones now (black) and the other answer would be: No, I had never gotten one before Morgbug. Well, did you know that is a classic sighn for anthrax poisioning? I just read that the other day. Yep, black scabs and anthrax. I'm going to go back to my Document Paper and get some more for you and will come back and post. oh yeah Hojo, I also meant to tell you that I think besides the Bt poisoning and arsenic toxicity ( by the way, arsenic is made from particles) well , I think this too: rDNA > OUR DNA HAS BEEN CHANGED BY THE VECTOR: THE PLANT WE HAVE EXPERIENCED A BACULOVIRUS,> PLEASE, IF YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THAT IS, THEN GO UP A COUPLE OF 5-6 POST AND CLICK ONTO THAT HYPERLINK FOR bAC VIRUSES. iT HAS A MOVING, ACTING PICTURE AND EXPLAINS IT FOR YOU. (BETTER THAN i CAN) AND i THINK THE mORG FIBERS ARE_________. ( WILL SAY LATER) AND THE TRYPANSOME: i TOO WILL POST THE H.LINK LATER. oKAY, WILL BE BACK SHORTLEY. i'M GLAD YOU ARE GIVING ME FEEDBACK TOO. tHANKS, lONDON
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Post by london2146 on Feb 25, 2006 0:30:27 GMT -5
oops! I fell asleep for a few....sorry, I will go get file now......okay, I'm back....so if you read about Bacu- lovirus up above, you now know that the caterpillar is immune to Bt.poisioning, etc., and when he dies he goes up towwards top of plant and leeeches on to the underside of leaf where he hangs upside down even after his death. This is where his sick body (as it decays) begins to fall upon the rest of the organismns. I'm sure he is eaten to by whatever "bug" might be hungry... and /or he might get eaten by a bird........whatever, but it is here that the ill caterpillar starts spreading the illness. Remember, he got sick from the plant! Next, I'm going to move on to something I just know is involved and is also something the orkin staff comfirmed was def. in my home when I went thru that scary wk.end from hell. It is the parasitid wasp.. and right after that is a page full (on the 2nd hyperlink) of topics just like this one> from the cockroach to other parasitoids....... Parasitoid wasp affects metabolism of cockroach host to favor food preservation for its offspring. tinyurl.com/psfo4
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Post by skytroll on Feb 25, 2006 0:36:58 GMT -5
Carrie, Here are some other cow diseases too. Oncho, symbiont with the Wohlbachia Bacteria. Both cause damage. In Oncho, not only is there a worm in the nodule but smaller nodules with microfilaria. I don't know if you have the floaty fibers or not. Just another angle, here. Could be what Gulf War folks have. I do think it has been in Saudia Arabia, for sure in Yeman. The ships came in through Yeman. That is where Cole was. But this shows up in US and Europe. au.merial.com/producers/dairy/disease/oncho.htmlSkytroll
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Post by london2146 on Feb 25, 2006 0:54:22 GMT -5
And…..well here is a hyperlink to a whole entire page of articles for you on this insect thing… tinyurl.com/ehkrz
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Post by london2146 on Feb 25, 2006 1:08:33 GMT -5
Now here is a more hyperlinks to the the plants...One is to the Moss (although it might not be called Moss, but the scientific name...) and the other is about the cucumber I believe. NOTE THIS; HERE IS THE DADDY OF ALL THE PLANTS. i CHOSE THIS ONE. IT IS A UNICELLULAR CYANOBACTERIUM THAT DOMINATES THE TEMPERATE AND TROPICAL OCEANS... IT EVEN HAS A LIGHT-HARVESTING APPARATUS. IT IS CALLED..... PROCHLOROCCUS.Here’s another great hyperlink which is a page full of articles ranging fromn arsenic compounds in fish oil to sap of cucumbers! tinyurl.com/ezhuh******************************** Gravitropic responses of wild-type and mutant strains of the moss Physcomitrella patens. tinyurl.com/ka6l7
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Post by skytroll on Feb 25, 2006 1:10:45 GMT -5
Hey you all, Fighting back......... www.biotech-info.net/scientist_breaks_protocol.htmland here is a fellow, maybe the same one, with this in defense of ge free food. Note in Section 4 B under Risks to Human Health, last line BACULOVIRUS VECTOR would make it a bacteriophage. Getting to the core of this is a pain in the arse. But, won't stop you LONDON. or me or Carrie or anyone else. Leighann, Maybe this could be used in court? Other countries do not want this stuff. www.gefree.org/nz/rci/joecummins.pdfskytroll
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Post by london2146 on Feb 25, 2006 1:19:30 GMT -5
TOLD YA GIRLIE! SKY i JUST CAME HERE TO POST SOMETHING WHEN i READ YOURS BUT i HAVE NOT CHECKED THE hLINK OUT YET, SO DO YOU YET THINK IT IS A BACULOVIRUS? jUST CURIOUS....i WILL CHECK IT OUT IN A FEW.... Comparison of mild extraction procedures for determination of arsenic compounds in different parts of pepper plants (Capsicum annum, L.) Eight extraction agents (water, methanol-water mixtures in various ratios, methanol, a 20 mmol l-1 ammonium phosphate buffer, and a methanol-phosphate buffer) were tested for the extraction of arsenic compounds from fruits, stems + leaves, and roots of pepper plants grown on soil containing 17.2 mg kg-1 of total arsenic. The arsenic compounds in the extracts were determined using high-performance liquid chromatography-hydride generation inductively coupled plasma mass spectrometry. Whereas pure water was the most effective extraction agent for fruits (87 ± 3.3% extraction yield) and roots (96 ± 0.6% extraction yield), the 20 mM ammonium phosphate buffer at pH 6 extracted about 50% of the arsenic from stems + leaves. Decreasing extractability of the arsenic compounds was observed with increasing methanol concentrations for all parts of the pepper plant. In pepper fruits, arsenic(III), arsenic(V), and dimethylarsinic acid (DMA) were present (25%, 37%, and 39% respectively of the extractable arsenic). Arsenic(V) was the major compound in stems + leaves and roots (63% and 53% respectively), followed by arsenic(III) representing 33% and 42% respectively, and small amounts (not exceeding 5%) of DMA and methylarsonic acid were also detected. Hence, for a quantitative extraction of arsenic compounds from different plant tissues the extractant has to be optimized individually. Copyright © 2005 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd. tinyurl.com/js557
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Post by rem on Feb 25, 2006 1:31:21 GMT -5
hey guys, im trying to attach a news clip on aresnic posioning in a small community 45 miles from where i live. i live in raton, new mexico and have been treated by dr shcwartz, that another story. any whoo. they recently done an investigation in springer, nm where 10 people were tested and 8 were positive for high levels of arsenic posion. they done water samples and it was ok further investigation is being done, me and my husband, son and daughter have been suffering from this for 1 year and 3 months, i have it the worst and sonth know how much longer i can hang on. only thing that keeps me going is my kids,and husband and chating with you all. can some one tell me how to post the link so you all can read story for yourselves. another thing i forgot to mention was that our family home has high levels of 4 different molds including stracybortus. hmmm hand and hand with arsenic i think,
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Post by london2146 on Feb 25, 2006 1:31:43 GMT -5
sKY, 2 THINGS HERE......
1. i HAVE THAT SAME EXACT LINK! (UYOUR FIRST ONE; i HAVE NOT READ IT THOROUGHLY YET BUT i HAD READ THE PAGE YOU POSTED....dID YOU SEE MONSANTO?
tHE CO. THAT IS REALLY GUILTIEST AS FAR AS WE ARE CONCERNED IS WHAT i BELIEVE IS : "ADVENTIS".
2. YOUR 2ND H.LINK DID NOT WORK.....BUT.......IT IS A APERFECTLY GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW THE COMPUTER SYSTEMS HAVE THIS COVERED UP. iT WEIRDED ME OUT WHEN i NOTICED THIS HAPPENING A COUPLE OF MONTHS BAC, EITHER THEY HAVE IT COVERED UP WITH LAONS FOR HOME (EUITY) OR IT'S SOMETHING TO DO W/ REAL ESTATE.....WEIRD AND SNEAKY!
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Post by london2146 on Feb 25, 2006 1:38:33 GMT -5
hI mS GARCIA, yOU HANG ON..... BOY i BET THAT IF SOMEONE IN THE GOV'T WAS READING THIS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE CRINGED WHEN THEY SAW THIS POST CMING OUT OF NEW MEXIC0. about photo doc.; go to www.simpload.com You will have to register but it's free and easy too. You must first put your document into a file on your cmptr as in my photos or wherever...does not matter. Then you hit the browse button on simpload and it will then pull up your file/folder. When it opens up, you have to double click onto your article/ This will transfer the address you have it stored under on your comp. to the simplaod one...... Hang in there. Looking to read your article! london
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