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Post by lONDON AS A GUEST on Mar 26, 2006 23:29:33 GMT -5
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Post by lONDON AS GUEST on Mar 26, 2006 23:33:48 GMT -5
AND MY LAST ONE TONIGHT: tHIS IS THE SAME AS THE OTHER ONE ON bIODEFENSE TECHNOLOGIES BUT THIS IS THE YEAR PRIOR AND WHAT THEY DID AT THIS 2002 PROGRAM: www.healthtech.com/2002/btr/index.htm
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London Please read this
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Post by London Please read this on Mar 27, 2006 7:10:12 GMT -5
CHARACTERIZING HOST CELL RESPONSE AND STIMULATING INNATE IMMUNITY
8:30 Chairperson's Remarks Dr. Arthur M. Krieg, Chief Scientific Officer, Coley Pharmaceutical Group
8:35 Characterizing Host Cell Response to the Prototypic Intracellular Infections: Tularemia and Plague
Dr. Anders Sjöstedt, Defense Research Establishment; and Professor, Department of Clinical Microbiology, Division of Clinical Bacteriology, Umeå University
Several microorganisms considered as potential biological warfare agents are capable of surviving intracellularly. Treating such intracellular infections poses a great challenge to the medical community since these infections may be lethal and their intracellular habitat renders these microbes relatively inaccessible. Our ongoing project aims to characterize host cell response to the prototypic intracellular infections tularemia and plague. Characterization of the host cell responses is performed by large-scale cDNA microarray analysis. These studies will elucidate interactions and identify genes regulated by eukaryotic cells in response to intracellular infections.
9:05 Defending against Bioterror by Activation of Innate Immunity with CpG DNA
Dr. Arthur M. Krieg To detect invading infectious organisms, the innate immune system uses receptors called Toll-like receptors (TLRs), which detect molecular patterns characteristic of microbes. TLR9 detects unmethylated CpG dinucleotides, which are common in bacterial DNA but not common in vertebrate DNA. Synthetic CpG DNA molecules bind TLR9 and activate innate immune defenses that can protect rodents against viral, bacterial, and parasitic pathogens. One CpG molecule, 7909, has entered human clinical trials as an enhancer of vaccination, and for cancer and allergy immunotherapy, and may have applications in bioterror defense.
9:35 Induction of Protective Immune Responses by CpG Oligodeoxynucleotides
Dr. Dennis Klinman, Section Chief, Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, U.S. Food and Drug Administration
The ability of synthetic oligodeoxynucleotides (ODN) containing immunostimulatory "CpG" motifs to trigger an innate immune response capable of improving host survival following bacterial, viral, and parasitic infection was investigated. In animal models, CpG ODN provided complete or partial protection from infection by a variety of pathogens, including Listeria monocytogenes, Francisella tularensis, leishmania, Ebola, and anthrax
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Post by LONDON AS GUEST on Mar 27, 2006 7:13:28 GMT -5
What did I read Anthrax, did I read on a COMPUTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ?? PLEASE PEOPLE, WAKE UP AND REALIZE THIS....THEY CA N DO ALL OF THIS VIA COMPUTERS! 2:20 The Virtual Screening Project: Collaborators on the Anthrax Research Project Dr. Davin M. Potts, Senior Scientist, Bioinformatics, and Senior Applications Developer, United Devices, Inc. The ability to aggregate and harness idle computer resources in a pharmaceutical corporation, on an academic campus, or on the Internet offers a potentially massive computing resource to life sciences researchers. Given the algorithms used, a large number of classes of applications in bioinformatics, cheminformatics, and genomics lend themselves well to this kind of distributed computing on a desktop grid. With the realization of the combined compute power from thousands to a million or more PCs comes a new set of challenges for researchers. Should we continue to perform the same kinds of computations as in the past only on a much larger scale, or are there new ways to use existing applications with edge distributed computing to yield deeper insight into our results? Are there computational methodologies, which were dismissed in the past as too expensive, now computationally feasible? We will examine these challenges and discuss several specific examples, including the much publicized screen-saver projects initiated by the University of Oxford (anthrax) and the National Foundation for Cancer Research.
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Post by LondonanthraxOxford on Mar 27, 2006 8:42:22 GMT -5
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Post by London as a guest on Mar 27, 2006 8:46:50 GMT -5
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Post by London on fibers on Mar 27, 2006 8:54:48 GMT -5
Read this, I don't know if this is a good find or not...it just had the "FIBER WORD" in it which captured my attention.
It is a European Patent ******
NASO-GASTRIC REFLECTANCE SPECTROSCOPY PROBE
Document: European Patent EP1200001
A naso-gastric reflectance spectroscopy probe. The probe includes an elongated flexible tube for insertion into a tubular body structure. The tube has a distal end with a lumen and suction apertures. One or more send and receive optical fibers extend through the lumen and have distal ends which terminate on the side of the tube near the distal end. Proximal ends of the optical fibers are adapted to be connected to a spectroscopy instrument. When positioned in a patient's stomach through the esophagus, a vacuum can be drawn through the tube to cause the optical fibers to be positioned in measurement contact with the tissue.
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Post by skytroll on Mar 27, 2006 12:28:34 GMT -5
Susiq,
I am still on the LifeSensor thing. I think it is connected.
London, Oh, yeah, these are somehow connected to computer, the new diagnosis, or tube to insert whatever gene is called for.
If you can see what LifeSensor stands for:
E-coli Yeast Baculovirus
Add to that the catalyst. This is one avenue. What has been put out there already? and used? We have no idea. They never told us what was in dissolving threads, did they?
It is time to be investigative in the whole medical fields. THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY HAVE OUR HEALTH, they have our lives, people.
LET THE COMMOTION BEGIN!
Lets stay focused, write well, research well, have a professional demeaner. When we get angry, they use that against us. If angry, then we are DOP. So, keep your cool use your heads, because well-thought out issues, including all research will get us there.
Do not back down, or give in to the DOP label! NEVER!
WE will survive and leave a BETTER PLACE FOR OUR CHILDREN.
WE ARE THE ROOSTERS! WE MUST CROW!
Love you all,
Will delve into the Life Sensor thing, and examine the SUMO system.
Skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Mar 27, 2006 13:56:26 GMT -5
Protists: www.kinetoplast.ucr.edu/Leptomonas%20UCR/Morphology.htmwww.tulane.edu/~wiser/protozoology/notes/kinet.htmlIt is in the protists, and gene therapy, evidently is in future. However, it isn't about genes. It is about protists, bacteria, etc. that is why the lie of cancer, is there, CANCER is caused by parasites, seems to saying that. Bacteria and genes are not the same. Genes are what we are made of. Bacteria is what causes the mutations, in the gene. To alter the gene is like going a..-backwards. But, there is something bigger at play here. To actually put bacteriophage through ion channel, put in sensors, to sense our whole body performance, and gene target therapy, to me will only cause more mutations, and make diseases like muscular dystrophy. Here a protein leaves the body, whY? because of a mutation in the 21 chromosome. Phage Therapy, by using this, you are inserting by way of virus, altered DNA, just like was done for Biotech in GM crops, plants, will be done for humans. Is a thorough understand of mutations due to genetic makeup and introductory phage, more dangerous, than cleaning the environment within the body first? Gene mutations have occurred before, because of use of bacteriophages. Bugs vector disease in a natural sense, while bacteriophages will vector right into our ion channels. Just thinking here folks, no concrete stuff, YET. Skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Mar 27, 2006 15:51:30 GMT -5
Bacteriophage: Virus from the latin virus, meaning "poison" Viruses straddle the definition of life. They lie somewhere between supra molecular complexes and very simple biological entities. Viruses contain some of the structures and exhibit some of the activities that are common to organic life, but they are missing many of the others. In general, viruses are entirely composed of a single strand of genetic information encased within a protein capsule. Viruses lack most of the internal structure and machinery which characterize 'life', including the biosynthetic machinery that is necessary for reproduction. In order for a virus to replicate it must infect a suitable host cell. Viruses exist in two distinct states. When not in contact with a host cell, the virus remains entirely dormant. During this time there are no internal biological activities occurring within the virus, and in essence the virus is no more than a static organic particle. In this simple, clearly non-living state viruses are referred to as 'virions'. Virions can remain in this dormant state for extended periods of time, waiting patiently to come into contact with the appropriate host. When the virion comes into contact with the appropriate host, it becomes active and is then referred to as a virus. It now displays properties typified by living organisms, such as reacting to its environment and directing its efforts toward self-replication. Bacteriophage T4 from the greek phagein, meaning "to eat" A bacteriophage is a virus which infects bacteria. In particular, the bacteriophage T4 is a virus which infects E.Coli, a bacteria that has been used extensively for molecular biology research. The bacteriophage T4 exemplifies the life cycle of viruses. It exists as an inactive virion until one of its extended 'legs' comes into contact with the surface of an E. Coli. Sensors on the ends of its 'legs' recognize binding sites on the surface of the host's cell, and this triggers the bacteriophage into action. The bacteriophage binds to the surface of the host, punctures the cell with its injection tube, and then injects its own genetic blueprint. This genetic information subverts the host cell's normal operation and sets the cell's biosynthetic machinery to work creating replicas of the virus. These newly created viruses escape from the cell and then float about dormant until one happens to come into contact with a new host cell. In nature, the bacteriophage T4 contains about 168,800 base pairs of double stranded DNA. This genetic blueprint contains all of the necessary information to create new bacteriophage T4. Our virtual bacteriophage T4 also contains its own genetic information; it is made up of characters of ascii VRML 2.0 code. At some point in the future evolution of cyberspace, our virus will find an appropriate host and replicate itself. The virtual virus is born, and the question of whether viruses are 'alive' is extended to the question of whether virtual viruses are alive! ..........from link: www.dform.com/projects/t4/virus.htmlskytroll
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Post by Fighorfly on Mar 27, 2006 16:37:37 GMT -5
See, now here is another thing I seem to be back-azzward on (ref to earlier post today).
I have been of the mind that many of our problems in medicine today stem from the move away from bacteriophage to antibiotics. With antibiotics you constantly need to find newer (~stronger) ones as the old ones get resisted. Often a lengthy process.
But Bacteriophage, still used today in Russia, and correct me if I'm wrong, adapt with the virus thereby ever ready for any mutation. Phage is injected (usually in a horse or another animal, that has been infected with the pathogen, those phage that survive are collected, cultured and then used, seemingly quite successfully, on the patient similarly afflicted.
Seemed pretty good to me.
But, like I said, I seem to sometimes lead with my azz first, please bear with.
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Post by london2146 on Mar 27, 2006 18:48:01 GMT -5
Hi Sky and fly, I'm just getting home from WORKING!!!!!! OH, i HATE IT!!!!! SCREAMING LIL KIDS GOING TO DRIVE ME NUTZO!
tO THE POINT.......yES, i'VE BEEN TELLING YOU SINCE PAGE 2 0R 3 OF THIS STRAND PLUS SAID IT A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO ON A POST I MADE......IE., THAT I thought this was not only a baculovirus but
also caused by the bacteriophage and I pinpointed T-4 distinctly!!!! Heck, I even think I posted it here again on this strand like on page 15 or so.
But isn't there a difference in the bacteriophage T-4 and plain old phage therapy???
I was saying they used the t-4 to get this morg crap into us and figured they would then use "Phage Therapy" to get this out... or try to.....
Hey, I have an excellent paper/document I found a couple of months ago on phage therapy, I will go check my Jan. Documents and see if I can possibly pull it up.....
London
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Post by london2146 on Mar 27, 2006 18:50:47 GMT -5
okay, here you go, from page 14 of this same strand, I wrote: I also believe that the T-4 virus is what they call the “giant spider”. See here For this hyperlink you will want to save (It’s one that I have not posted before Re: the T-4 Bacteriophage.) tinyurl.com/zcgddI hope you will bookmark that reference, I’m afraid we’ll be using it.
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Post by skytroll on Mar 27, 2006 18:54:56 GMT -5
Bacteriophages where used by Pasteur before too. I know the Russians seem to know. I am bearing with you here, Fly.
Are you saying bacteriophage and vaccine are the same? That seems to be how vaccines worked isn't it? mmmmmmmmmm
Where in the heck did I put my thinking cap. Oh, it is the one with DOP label. And, there I go, I was sittin on it. DOP stands for DESTROY OLD PARADIGMS, like DOP.
Fly, I have to tell you this, my son made a musical video that made it into a festival. I am so happy for him. It is called Particle Man. Triangle meets particle man. It is great and seems to fit Morgellons and the fight against the triangle: govt. institutes, pharma. And, it is funny too.
You are funny Fly.
Skytroll
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Post by london2146 on Mar 27, 2006 18:56:00 GMT -5
Replication of Viruses There are 5 major steps in the replication cycle of all viruses:
Attachment Penetration Nucleic acid and protein synthesis Assembly of virions Release/egress
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Post by skytroll on Mar 27, 2006 19:04:37 GMT -5
London,
Did you notice the 8 stages of the Anthrax? so it is dangerous at the one step where they think this antigen can be inserted? Will have to read more?
Thank you for those links and the others above.
How was work today? Hope you had a good day.
skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Mar 27, 2006 19:23:51 GMT -5
London,
I remember when you mentioned that T4 business. And, yes I did have that bookmarked.
So much isn't there? So, you think they are trying to use phages, through the SUMO system?
But, you know what that G protein seems to be what many microbiologists where studying.
On that last one you posted, I noticed this:
"Virus Morphology Viruses can be classified into several morphological types:
Helical, e.g. bacteriophage M13 Polyhedral/cubic, e.g. poliovirus Enveloped - may have poyhedral (e.g. herpes simplex) or helical (e.g. influenzavirus) capsids Complex, e.g. poxviruses. "
And look how they can detect these!
"Diagnosis of Viral Infections This can be by:
detection of virus, e.g. electron microscopy detection of viral antigen, e.g. immunofluorescence detection of effect of virus, e.g. cytopathic effect on cells detection of virus nucleic acid, e.g. by PCR detection of anti-viral antibody, e.g by ELISA "
from your link, London. So, viruses morph?
Oh my my. Hey, they gave me this for Bell's Palsy, a herpes drug, Acyclovir! more from link:
"Acyclovir/Famciclovir/Valaciclovir - used against herpesvirus infections" They told me at ER when got the Bells Palsy, that it was caused from a virus. Ha....
I am sorry those little sweeties were on the rampage today. I see your day was a little rough. Hope it gets better.
Skytroll
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Post by london2146 on Mar 27, 2006 19:35:19 GMT -5
Hey sky captain! Didn't mean to post at the same time you posted to Fly while a go...... sorry about that......They had me teaching second grade........I hate kids (NOT REALLY!!!!!) they are sweet but I'm so sick of "tattling" ARG...... I'm used to doing highschool, the older the better for me...... Thank you for asking....see i did not get to work one day last week b/c I was soooo sick! Now I'm feeling better but I have this horrible, horrible bump/mass of worms? whatever the hell right on the right side of that middle line on bottom chin......It looks awful.....It was this huge bump/ cyst looking thing that was there for nearly 5 weeks and I thought I was just having an allergic reaction to some skin product I had used... Wrong! If it was a spot/pimple then the thing would have changed by now....this was just this hard, big ugly bump...... So I began trying to dissect some of it after I got home from visiting the Mothers last night.....you know me, let's see what did she call me.....? Oh, yeah, a self mutilator!! She thinks I have that mental disease where people cut themselves all up......Please!!!! But hell, after seeing this bump thing on my chin last night , she may be right. Seriously, I do not know how to get rid of it....The crusty scab just flakes off by the end of the day and completely gets very soft during showering, thus I can just wipe it off, but it comes back again over the next few hours with this new and improved heinous layered scab.....Now when it is off I can see the red,raw skin which has all these little white balls which I try to pull out ( okay, rip out) but damn this hurts and there is like 25 of them...... I have kept it very sterile and also applied clindomycine 3 times a day.....but nothing works!!! I had have a few others on my chin areas since this disease began but there was only like this hard, thin line (kind of like fishing line) that I eventually was always able to remove in one piece! They never had these white looking balls sitting in there that are attached very tightly to chin. What the heck is this? ? I'm not going to work tomorrow if this is bigger.......Please advise.... and so sorry to groce out everyone with those nasty details, but I need advice! This has the perimeter size of about a dime. ****** Anthrax, gotta read more too, I just luckily found those hyperlinks this am and barely had time to post them; more less read them...but I'm glad you thought they were relavent. Please always be honest and say I disagree if you do, you see, my memory is really fading. I can remember very well for like 18- 22 hours, then after I wake up I can't remember anything..... Like today at school, when I posted the date on the board i wrote March 27th, 1998 What did this mean? Oh I need a drink! going to find the phage therapy now.....
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Post by Fighorfly on Mar 27, 2006 19:45:45 GMT -5
Whhhhoooooopaaaa,
LOL It is not a small feat keeping up with you two. Sha moly lol Sneeze and you might miss somethin or lose your place Har! ...
Thank you, thank you very much for the info both and your post London, will do some follow up in the wee hrs tonite (shhhhhh ;D) on pahge stuff.
You are both gems.
- Bry Fig Fly
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Post by skytroll on Mar 27, 2006 20:05:56 GMT -5
London, I had the same thing going on my chin, from one side to other. I used neosporin cream and let it dry on there. It then can be wiped off. Those white things, seem to be translucent eggs. I have dug them out too. On my chin they kept going like mirgrans. Hurt like heck too. But, that neosporin cream really seems to work. It takes repeat applications and the scars are not so bad. I have put bandaids on before, only at night if need to, I usually have a towel, I used in case it may spread, then wash towel in hot water and bleach, so doesn't spread. Hey, I found some more about that Bacteriophage M13, a marker on the coffee plant. mmmmm Now, found microsatellites?and RFLP and VNTR three ways of marking species. Good God. Now, I want to see what they are made of. "Whether RFLP, VNTR or microsatellites are used, a segregating population must be scored. Each of the individuals is analyzed for all of the markers, and two and three point analyses are performed among all two and three combinations of markers. This analysis is exactly analagous to that described for phenotypic genes. In reality, though, analyzing hundreds of markers simulataneously is not feasible by hand. Rather computer programs are used to determine linkages and develop the map. The development of programs such as MAPMAKER, LINKAGE and FASTMAP have greatly facilitated mapping efforts in many species. [glow=red,2,300]Today, molecular maps of all major species of interest are available for medical or agricultural scientists[/glow]. And these scientists are using these maps to isolate genes of interest." link: www.ndsu.edu/instruct/mcclean/plsc431/genomic/genomic4.htmtinyurl.com/zsrahBry Fig Fly, You are doing great. Posting some great stuff. Keep at it. This thread is consistent. We are weeding out the stuff. So, glad for you input. Others, Please throw in what you can and lets make this one highly intellectual discussion, with all the experimental information, and blow by blow descriptions of the horror, and we will get to the bottom of this, and along the way we will learn what the plans are to program the human species. But, They will never get our souls!Skytroll
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