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Post by Jill on Mar 21, 2006 17:15:49 GMT -5
It's about fluoride in the water and aluminum in the air- along with many other metals... The link below is only one of many by James Phelps. He was involved with HAARP, was the inventor of the DOE's "Global Shield" and more. members.aol.com/doewatch/
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Post by skytroll on Mar 21, 2006 21:12:32 GMT -5
If Doe is involved, then the Epa is also involved. Teller came out of Livermore Labs, and he is the one who came up with what is used for cooling the earth. That was in 1991.
I beg to differ that the GOP is to blame. End time is on the Rockefeller Institute, ONE CHURCH, one GOD, pages, includes both DEMs and GOP.
There is global warming because HAARP blew a hole in the ozone. Where is the hole? Up there where Haarp resides. We get electrical power surges here because of one of it's connectors in Wi. Trying to capture energy from the vacuum, possibly? Using old technology, old physics paradigms? possibly
If flouride is the problem, buy floride free toothpaste, can get flouride from that too.
Phelps may be a whistleblower, but, he is politically astute as well.
This has been going on for a long time and involves how many administrations? And what kind of people have worked in these labs? People who could keep secrets.
When genomes started to become part of the equation, then the real damage began. Let's fix this using the very earth itself, and alter everything to a synthetic form, rather than it's natural form. So, it went from bad to worse, because of the coverups. One coverup covered another coverup and so on and so on.............
Is this guy Phelps for real? What was his job exactly at Oak Ridge?
Don't know. Thanks for links.
Skytroll
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Post by london2146 on Mar 21, 2006 22:01:39 GMT -5
Wow Jill. Thanks- I will have to read it again tomorrow. I'm not thinking too clearly today. But it is indeed quite interesting.
London
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Post by Jill on Mar 21, 2006 22:12:02 GMT -5
Yes, Phelps is for real. This, Skytroll, is the answer. But this is just a snippet. Phelps has about 90 pages of info out there. All of it important. Phelps mentions Garth Nicholson. He is aware of mycoplasma and mentions how it factors into the mix. He also explains Teller and the Manhatten Project. If you want to get rid of this problem, enzymes are the answer. The enzymes along with antibiotics/antifungals (pulsed), various vitamins and minerals and lots of diet changes- to start with the water. We won't get well without the enzymes. Staying well may be a problem unless the spraying stops. Eliminate fluoride from your diet if you want to improve. That means a good water filter. I've read (Phelps) that the carbon filters don't work on fluoride. Google Phelps/Oak Ridge and Sandra Reid. Add Sherrie Graham Farver (a worker at one of the Oak Ridge Plants) to the search. I'll give you a link: www.downwinders.org/sherrie.htm Testimony of Sherrie Graham Farver Submitted to the Senate on Governmental Affairs, this 29th day of March, 2000 (Ill Oak Ridge K-25 Site Former Worker) ** Here's a snippet: At age 46, my body feels like that of a very old person. My muscles and joints are sore and ache. The pain is always present. I live in a perpetual state of chronic fatigue with rarely if ever a day that I feel energized or refreshed. I tolerate the pain better than I do the fatigue because the fatigue robs me of motivation and the basic zest of life. I am treated with a hefty dose of anti-depressant medication twice daily for ongoing and recurrent depression. The depression has been severe in the past, and I have been told that without the medication I can expect to return to a clinically depressed state again. I have existed this way for many years. I was one of the few who continued to work and did not resort to disability leave from my job. It did become necessary for health reasons to work part-time. My employer Lockheed Martin Energy Systems (LMES) accommodated my part-time status at first but later unleashed its ugly hostility upon me.
end Sound familiar? Jim Phelps backed her up. I read that in a link related to the minutes of a meeting of the 'ill' workers at Oak Ridge. There is much more. Of Sherrie's story and many more. Chronic Fatigue- Jim Phelps has it as well. You may recall that I posted a quote a while back from a doctor at a lab? The doctor, who looks at Lyme and other pathogens all day- every day- stated that Lyme and Chronic Fatigue (pathogens) look the same under the scope. Interesting? That is just an aside really. The truth is that Jim Phelps has come forward to warn the population of why they are ill. Why they have Gulf War Syndrome or CFS or Fibromyalgia or Alzheimers (fill in the blanks). You are correct about the cover ups. A person would have to be deaf, dumb, blind and stupid not to realize there are some heavy duty cover ups going on in our land for some time. Here's one more snippet about Mr Phelps: Jim Phelps is the inventor of the HAARP project, he discovered that the Earth's magnetic field is an MHD generator, the discover of the critical factors of ...
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Post by london2146 on Mar 21, 2006 22:15:59 GMT -5
Keep em coming Jjill>> this is too good!
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Post by Jill on Mar 21, 2006 22:18:15 GMT -5
You're welcome London. I have tired brain as well. Off to the tube (the other tube),
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Post by skytroll on Mar 22, 2006 13:21:17 GMT -5
JJill,
I never ever thought you posted BS. I read these before from Phelps, and I know he knows of whereof he speaks, but, I was just taking a critical look at his writings. Not attacking your post at all. I just wonder about all the things he invented, and why this hasn't been carried further. He too, must suffer from the media's "I see nothing, hear nothing, speak nothing motives.
This should be mainstream reports, but, is not and has not been. So, we are not the only ones out here not being heard. If none of this is reported on, or even put out into the public, then we know that we have to keep trying, as Phelps is to report it in any manner possible.
Thanks for those links JJill, we need to see what some are doing to right some wrongs.
Skytroll
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Post by london2146 on Mar 22, 2006 14:11:37 GMT -5
so, my gosh that Sharon Farver's lady- her report is sooo long, But she is saying Cyanide poisioning. I've been trying to tell everyone that arsenic is ivolved too. My god when will this all end? What is your take on all of this Jill? You've apparently read the most. Like what
is our next step? Just tell me and I will do it!
London
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Post by london2146 on Mar 22, 2006 14:19:51 GMT -5
Here, check this out, when it opens up, just scroll down it, no need to read it. A picture is worth a thousand words, you know? www.lbl.gov/Publications/Currents/archive/and Skytroll, about 1/2 way thru it, where it shows this lady and the article starts out as "berkley lab" well, it talks about Michigan. and on the part that says Berkley Lab Roundup, well here's a snippet from that: One way of introducing therapeutic genes into the body is with a virus. That won't work if the immune system is already armed to cripple it, but David Schaffer of the Physical Biosciences Division has led a team from UC Berkeley and the University of Ohio in using “directed evolution” to create stealth strains that can slip past the immune system. As reported in the Feb. issue of Nature Biotechnology, the researchers introduced random mutations in adeno-associated virus and let generations of mutants fight it out in blood sera rich in antibodies; the fittest survivors were orders of magnitude better at evading antibodies than the wild type. While directed evolution has been used to alter enzymes and the immune response itself, Schaffer says, “in the viral realm, this approach is essentially untapped.”
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Post by Jill on Mar 22, 2006 14:32:19 GMT -5
so, my gosh that Sharon Farver's lady- her report is sooo long, But she is saying Cyanide poisioning. I've been trying to tell everyone that arsenic is ivolved too. My god when will this all end? What is your take on all of this Jill? You've apparently read the most. Like what is our next step? Just tell me and I will do it! London If I were you, I'd contact James Phelps. Invite him to visit this link and the Bio board as well. Tell him about the research- also about TT/C 3. Ask what he thinks. Ask for advise. If you want his email addy, I'll gladly furnish it. I'm in contact with him as well. Just remember, he thinks in terms of the 'big picture' rather than attempting to ID a pathogen. He already knows there are pathogens. Jill
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Post by london2146 on Mar 22, 2006 14:48:08 GMT -5
Okay, send it on. I just don't want to goof anything up.......
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Post by skytroll on Mar 22, 2006 16:12:19 GMT -5
go for it JJill,
We need him, here. The big picture, he has written a lot.
skytroll
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Post by london2146 on Mar 22, 2006 19:55:05 GMT -5
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Post by Orion*** on Mar 22, 2006 21:23:21 GMT -5
Almost overwheming is'nt it..
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Post by Jill on Mar 24, 2006 8:34:25 GMT -5
In keeping up with generational changes, DOEWatch will soon take up "Pod-Casting" to tell the story of fluoride and the immune system damage vectors via enzyme upset. And the story of chemtrails, as told by their inventor: members.aol.com/magnu96196
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Post by Skytroll to JJill on Mar 24, 2006 13:03:09 GMT -5
Wow, jjill,
Phelps hits the nail on the head. Remember the secret meetings held with Abraham and Cheney. Those were never released to the public, and shortly after that comes the DOE/EPA connection.
He has vast amounts of information, and the stories by the folks who work there. I have a brother-in-law who works at DOE in Nevada. He has had to take interferon for over a year, and is back at work, but suffers from lots of physical ailments.
Dangerous places to work, and they know where this stuff goes, and what it does.
I wonder if the EPA plans to work with scientists who can find the correct enzymes for humans to heal them. Do you think they are using this stuff in the planes, just to get rid of it?
MIC really has gone off the deep end, I'd say. I read somewhere where JFK knew about the free energy and wanted to use it. He said if it heals people, then let's use it. But, it seems there were more powerful entities at work here.
Now the EPA gets involved to try to fix it, and makes matters worse.
I think it is the catalyst of iron that starts it for humans. Now, if the iron particles can be eaten by those microbes, what do those microbes do to us?
I think those are involved, because, they can find no parasite, alone, or protist, alone that can do all that much damage to us. Then, that inorganic, could be the radioactive microbes and/or the iron particles, along with the Barium, aluminum, and other things in chemtrails.
Electrical conductivity from the positive ions, the grid, etc. all contributing to the microbial pull into our skin.
I was sitting here yesterday, when I felt this thing go up side of neck and into hair. I quickly rubbed it, and found a pod, like a seed and then two fibers, both black, one thinner than the other and on the fibers were these pods.
Earlier in the day the sky had been milky white, trailing at night, and then cleared some. Later to the North dark black clouds hovered. To the South, some clear sky and then huge clouds and flayed out trails, and the planes kept spraying., and then clear visible low trails. A white trail was right alongside a dark trail. The planes were everywhere. It seems like they were connecting all trails and they were widening quite fast.
I delivered my newspapers and observed all this, and heard the planes, up at their usual 35,000 ft. I wear a hat when I deliver papers, but, this was below where the hat covered on my skin, behind my ear.
These fibers then, I looked at, were in slow motion. I believe, they came from trails.
What I observed the black line and then the white line(trail) seems to be the black is put down and then the white is interspersed with it. Now, is it carbon? buckyballs? and then the white is the polymer, spidery stuff? I am wondering if this is carbon capture, through buckyballs and then the white is the disolving mechanisms to rid the air of the carbon?
But, then why would there be pods in the black fibers. Maybe a delving into the carbon nanotubes, carrying iron, with the excess carbon sequestering be placed in air to be zapped by inorganic/organic compounds. The organic the metal eating microbe. Now, if we can examine the microbe, on the nanotube, then we may be able to decipher this.
I think the black fiber is a buckyball unfurling, which could be holding the sequestered carbon dioxide that supposedly is in excess on this planet, but the organic would be what they are genoming in the genomes2life.
Maybe, I will write Phelps and see if he has taken this further into what the EPA is doing along with the DOE. This master plan would not be forthcoming, but, we can see what they are creating out of the genomed information.
Just a wander into the physics of this and the organic connection. Seems to be one.
Thanks JJill for presenting this information.
Skytroll
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Post by Jill on Mar 24, 2006 14:17:29 GMT -5
You're welcome, Skytroll.
Hopefully, Mr Phelps will start the Podcast soon and we will have more info.
My aluminum studies took me to maps and graphs- seems there are many large cities in the US that have suffered the impact of the aluminum plants. Alcoa, for instance, is headquartered in Pittsburg, PA. We had a large plant in our area for many years as well. The combined effect of the aluminum from the plants- called pollution- back in the day- caused illness in many large cities. High cancer rates and so on.
Add to that, the metals in the Chemtrails added to the Fluoride in products and water. That's the secret. One ingredient comes from the air- another from the water (and the soil). The antibiotics add another angle to the mix (per Tom Bearden).
(another aside, aluminum is in a lot of our products. Makeup Antiperspirants and much more)
Factor in the other variables such as BT and the like and you wonder how any of us made it this far.
If you read more of Jim Phelps materials, you will find the enzymes that are needed to repair our dead and dying cells.
He recommends using vitamins and minerals to build the body rather than attempting to take the enzymes as supplements. The body, with the help of the vitamins and minerals, will generate the enzymes when balance is restored.
When I have time, I'll post some info from him. He is a fountain of knowledge and information. A God send!
Jim Phelps mentioned Gluthathion, SOD and 2-5A RNase L depleted in our bodies as a result of the various accidents and experiments.
I planned to purchase the various enzymes in the hopes of restoring balance to my system. Asking Mr Phelps about the above, he informed me that MSM, Selenium, Manganese, Zinc and Magnesium all support the enzymes- and they are components that help the synthesis of those enzymes. Alone they (the enzymes) do not do well in the stomach. He also mentioned Vitamin C, which I already take- 1500 to 3000 mg daily. It helps.
He also mentioned raw organic veggies. Yum.
Tom Bearden's info is a great help as well. I'd love to get his new book. Between the sources and what we have found through digging, I think we can overcome this.
I have no doubt that there are other factors to consider. One is that we no doubt are infected/infested with some sort of worm/s. I read Becky Bailey's post and don't doubt that all of us would have a similar report, if tested.
To my mind, it doesn't matter what we have. Worms are worms. I've read about many- in terms of treatment- and it's basically the same.
One thing that everyone overlooks is flushing. Lots of Good water- lemon water is the best (minus the fluoride).
As to the fibers, could be that you are correct that they are some sort of nano-bot-dealie. Maybe we can flush em out with the various treatments? Topical/internal?
So we should establish a protocol of some sort. Listing the vitamins/minerals/Biltricide/essential oils/flush and the cleaning methods.
As aside, I just read that Bb has a cycle. It mutates at a certain point. During a period of time, the antibiotics that Lymies take, are doing more harm than good. Someone should look closer into that cycle. Pulsing is the key. For Lymies- antibiotics and Cat's Claw pulsed along w/the other vitamins and minerals.
I keep 1/2 of my double bowl sink filled with bleach at all times. All dishes and utensils-everything gets a bleach bath. The clothes get an Oxi-bleach bath and Borax.
Love that Oxi-Clean.
I'm glad you plan on writing to Jim Phelps.
I have some info on carbon somewhere. I'll dig it out and post it when I'm able.
Jill
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Post by specuelatin on Mar 24, 2006 19:22:58 GMT -5
Wow, I am so impressed! I'm intrigued on your finding of the TSH and T-3 T-4 and how the aluminum combines with the flouride to block the gluth... I don't know how you speels it.
I am so sure that most here are suffering in a subclinical hypo thyroid state.
Here is the old fashioned test to see if your hypothyroidism is existing, even if your thyroid test does not reveal it.
By the way, old book, Dr. Broda Barnes, Hypothyroidism, the Unsuspected Illness, most libraries will have many copies.
Your basal temperature, when taken under the arm, should be between 97.8 and 98.2. (Think close to 98.0)
You take the temperature 3 mornings in a row, and you do not do this during your menstration.
You do not get up, and you do not shake down your thermometer.
When your alarm goes off, you place the thermometer under the arm for a full 10 minutes. If all you own is the beeper-type of thermometer, you must still allow 10 minutes under your arm before reading it. (you can place it under your arm for several minutes and then turn it on so the beeping doesn't drive you crazy).
Lie still because your activity will change the reading and make it too high, then you will not get a false reading on the test.
Do this 3 times and take the average.
If less than 97.8, you have hypothyroidism that is possibly subclinical (not revealed by blood test).
I will put this info on another thread, if you have questions, post them there.
If you are hypothyroid, every cell in your body will suffer from the deficit. Once it is corrected, you will have more energy to go after what protocols and so forth you need to take care of yourself and family.
If I ever have a problem getting thyroid from the doctor, I will go on line and I will use this temperature standard to determine how much is needed.
spec
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Post by Jill on Mar 24, 2006 20:04:22 GMT -5
Thanks spec. I have Hypothyroidism. I posted about Broda Barnes on the old board a few years back.
Your post sounded familiar- hahaha
Great book- great info. Most tests for thyroid are not accurate. I 'test' normal but my body temp is low- 97.4 on average. Broda's advice tells how to confirm real thyroid problems but still the doctors test. And I come back normal.
As you stated (as I had stated) I use his info (Broda Barnes)along with my DX from a doctor at Cleveland Clinic to adjust their thinking.
But we have bigger problems.
James Phelps can help get us on track.
Jill
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Post by skytroll on Mar 24, 2006 21:06:10 GMT -5
Thank you JJill and Spec,
I am taking Cats Claw, but sure get the cramps. I take it every other day, my body can't handle too much. Also, in between the Master Tonic, which seems to loosen my bowels more.
Vit C. E, D ginseng. A few of what Phelps mentions. Will read more.
Spec, the doctor thing we were working on should we go back to? I got a little overwhelmed for a while and stopped working on that. But, this would be our intake sheet? And then psy.... sent me info on the way Dr. Matthews is going at this and others.
Will let you know what I find when read the info sent.
Skytroll
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