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Post by 22122 on Jul 12, 2006 15:09:47 GMT -5
I have had the condition of crawlies about 4 months and the biting with sharp pricks for one year. I remember when the crawling started when from my head, I felt something I could not see, crawl into ears, nose and mouth. This was a constant thing as it felt like hundred of crawls and seeming to focus on these areas. In the beginning I found kinds of black, objects that when viewed under my 100x microscope appeared to have wings, a phorid fly? I found a number of these in the beginning in my hair alive and later dead when I used various treatments like many listed on this board. They are very small and to the naked eye just look like a black charred something. Recently, I have been coughing up flem from my throat that is drainage from my sinuses, I thought and it is bloody. I have a hepa filter in my small room but no ionizer yet. This morning I found a large chunk of mucus that had made its way down to my throat from my sinuses, I thought. I coughed it up and on the tissue was a lot of thick mucus and some blood and this coiled worm the diameter of a mung bean sprout. Stretched out, it might have been at least two inches but it would not stretch out and seemed dead. Likely left some eggs behind in the process too. This worm may not even be related to the fly, as it is so large. I think this is in my sinus cavity but I am not sure. I did not have anything to preserve this worm so I am going to order some formaldehyde. tinyurl.com/rnfk4The formaldehyde is 37%. I can order some specimen bottles too and will put the url here. Can order even one bottle for my next time so I will be ready as there is no minimum order: tinyurl.com/h2h8dDoes anyone have anything like this? I am taking Paracleanse from Dermatechrx and take it routinely twice a day. I am on my third bottle. Also I am using a lot of Vicks in my nose at night lately since I felt more movement there. If I have these in my lungs too, it is not going to be good. Any feedback would be appreciated. 22122
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Post by mikey on Jul 12, 2006 16:56:48 GMT -5
Well, it would see that perhaps the "ParaCleanse" might just be working pretty well, it's good to have that out of you, seems awful big sounding, you know. Would you say it looked roundish like a worm but had lots of legs like a centapede, those have been crawling all around outside and we even found a few in our house, could be this thing just crawled in their but wasn't really a parasite?
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Post by 22122 on Jul 12, 2006 17:15:47 GMT -5
Thanks optimistic for your feed back, No it was clearly a round worm and not segmented or flat and did not have legs. I was just amazed. There is no way it could have crawled in unless there was some larval stage that I am theorizing and this very small larval state is what and where it started.
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Post by Carrie♥ on Jul 12, 2006 18:15:16 GMT -5
Dr. Clark's books give you some good procedures for specimen preserving. Sorry...I'll re-read your post when I'm done racin' 'round town.
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Post by Carrie♥ on Jul 12, 2006 18:16:30 GMT -5
That was sorry for your recent incident...sorry it happened.
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Post by Orion*** on Jul 12, 2006 19:33:14 GMT -5
Do you own a cat or dog?
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Post by 22122 on Jul 12, 2006 22:10:46 GMT -5
Thanks carrie for the kind words. Those Clark books are so hard to find things in but I hear they are coming out with a book, a table of contents type book.
Orion, Thanks for the post. I did own a dog last owned in 1992 and of course there is the sheep just a few years ago. Someone had a cat living in my room that had probably never been wormed before I moved in here.Maybe round worm larva. If I did not have lymebusters and all the people here, I would have gone fruity this morning. Maybe the silver I.V. with the hydrogen peroxide really did some good and of course the paracleanse that I have been taking for a couple of months now. I have no intention of stopping that especially now. At least it was dead. That is a good sign.
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Post by Fighter on Jul 12, 2006 22:17:03 GMT -5
22122,
Where you able to micrograph this specimen?
Have you thrown it away?
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Post by godog on Jul 12, 2006 22:28:17 GMT -5
I feel like I am expelling worms and flies. I believe I am, I see them, This is starting to remind me of that movie The Sixth Sense. "I see dead people. all the time..."
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Post by godog on Jul 12, 2006 22:29:12 GMT -5
I definately could save them, if I could get some medical person to look at them.
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Post by godog on Jul 12, 2006 22:32:04 GMT -5
This is the amazing thing of it all, there's no lack of physical evidence. We shed it everywhere we go, which is really ironic, since no one believes us. So, I guess the joke's on the unbelievers.
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Post by godog on Jul 12, 2006 22:51:40 GMT -5
But yes, I have pets, and have had them all my life and my parent's lives and on and on and this is news to me. But, I can imagine, pets at this point is not an asset. I have pomeranians, and they are nothing but hairballs!!! But, I love them and I know how the Katrina people felt, staying in those conditions, because of their little buddies. But no, this infestation is entirely new phenomena. Not pet related. But pets now can thank us for giving to them.
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Post by godog on Jul 12, 2006 23:17:26 GMT -5
Hey, let's call Animal Planet!! Someone said on here maybe we should be consulting the veternarians. I did buy some fluke medicine for aquariums. Bathwater?
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Post by 22122 on Jul 13, 2006 1:40:50 GMT -5
goldie, no, I did not save this first one. I tried to stretch it out and it broke apart as rigormortis had set in. It was a stiff noodle. I tried to see it optimistically: 1: that it did not move, 2: that it was not bigger 3: that I saw it at all and so was grateful. I think there is some relationship to the fly I see in my hair once in awhile but it does not make sense logically. It is interesting it happened right after the full moon and during the time when I exercised. I have been exercising every other day now having previously not been able to as I am on heparin and nattokinase.
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Post by 22122 on Jul 13, 2006 21:26:48 GMT -5
Well, i coughed up my second worm about 4 am this morning. This time, I emptied out a supplement bottle and put some vodka in it with the dead worm. I don't drink and bought it to use on my hair with no effect so I was glad I had a little left. Maybe even the full moon had something to do with it. I'll mark my calender for the next one if I don't have any more in hopes to get more if they are there. I feel like I am making progress. 22122
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Post by mikey on Jul 13, 2006 21:45:54 GMT -5
Your one tough dude 22122, keep at it. I'm going to say a prayer for you right now that God will use your current efforts to dramatically improve things for you.
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Post by flutterby on Jul 13, 2006 21:50:33 GMT -5
Hi 22122,
My Morgellons symptomatic problems originated with a mouth infection, gums infected, etc. Dentists and Oral Surgeons were not helpful, as they only wanted to root plane and scale. Each time I had the procedure, my mouth/gum infection worsened.
My gums are severely infected and in between my teeth at the gumline are visable round, what appear to be eggs. Also, inside cheeks, lips, throat, tongue, etc.
When the eggs/larvae stage of this horror begins to boom with an increase in numbers, my gums swell, throat tightens (almost closed up on me last year) lost my voice, in any event, the activity begins and my mouth, ears, throat, behind eyes and entire head experience excruciating pain that brings me to tears. I have large lumpy growths on my gums where teeth have been extracted. These areas swell even more during this re-birth and population explosion is taking place. All of this action usually brings on the nausea, my head just pounds and I feel very sick.
Since these seeds of Morgie life never seem to lessen, it is a chronic problem and I certainly understand your frustration.
At any given moment, if(excuse me, don't mean to be crude) I spit out any saliva or mucus, a multitude of eggs are always present. Of course, as you know, as you watch the disgusting glob of the spit contents, you will begin to see small little larvae looking critters begin to emerge. They just slowly start to pop their heads out as the eggs are popping.
I know it is not easy to deal with. In fact, I believe that is why at times if I try to eat food, after taking my first morsel with my utensil, the utensil picks up the eggs that are present in my mouth, so as I return my eating utensil back onto my plate to scoop up another morsel of food, WORMS BEGIN TO EMERGE IMMEDIATELY, from the food on my plate. Really turn me off. Makes me cringe and naturally I cannot touch any food.
I have a very similar problem as you are having and I know it is no fun. So I can spit out eggs to larvae at will anytime of the day or night, 24-7.
Check out my thread I began a few months back, you can search it easily by just typing the title in the search box. The thread is entitled, "EVERYTHING I TOUCHED TURNED INTO WORMS."
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Post by flutterby on Jul 13, 2006 21:56:03 GMT -5
Part two,
I hit enter and posted premiturily. Anyway, I think you will find the thread, subject matter and replies I received on the subject similar to what you are experiencing............plus some other eerie displays and indestructable actions of the "hideous little ba------s."
I do hope you feel better, my prayers are with you. This manifistation described above has not gotten any better at all. The condition continues to be chonic and forever multiplying.
Really check out the thread. Defintely "XYZ" Files.
Love all you guys. God Bless, Flutterby This thread was started October 19, 2005. I do believe you will find it interesting and something you can relate to your own experiences.
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Post by 22122 on Jul 13, 2006 23:04:11 GMT -5
Hey thanks for much, Optimistic. I would not have been so brave if they had moved. Flutterby, You saw the thread on POMs awhile back? Did this help rinsing your mouth out with this? You have tried hydrogen peroxide? ozonated water to rinse your mouth out? (mine's is in storage 400 miles away). I wonder if you got contaminated with dental tools. Have you tried seeing a dentist for this, a different one? Can you put them in a bottle and save them with some alcohol? Have you sent your story to Ms. Parsens.?
I would be nice to get both life cycles in some containers. Did you see my first thread? Then someone is sure to come along eventually. Then its doctumented. Have you researched parasitic disease of the mouth on the internet? Gosh I know I have asked a lot of questions and I hope you don't mind answering them. It is a thought to contact DAMS, I can pm you their information for people who think out of the box with dentistry and then find someone in your area with an open mind. There is also specialties of DMD, doctor of medical dentistry. the key maybe is finding someone with an open mind. I will check your thread that you posted awhile back. 22122
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Post by Orion*** on Jul 13, 2006 23:51:39 GMT -5
Worms enter the skin on or near the foot--gets to the blood stream--goes to the lungs--is coughed up--goes (some do some dont) into the stomache-intestines--is deficated out-back to the soil to start the journey all over again--ascarias does this. Do you own dogs or cats..?? The eggs can also be breathed in---on dust-from carpet--carried indoors on dirty shoes --from the yard where your animals deficat right along with all the wild animals...dangerous world..your animals can also get infected by the same route...your animals are treated regularly for worms? bad logic as the worm meds are not a vaccine and a week after deworming can be reinfected... Basic parasitology 101 Orion***
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