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Post by lil on Jul 23, 2006 17:46:51 GMT -5
i know i cant kill this disease...
but is there anything that can do to to get rid of some fibers? they are everywhere...
they pop out of my skin all the time now adays... just sitting here writing i have atleast ten in my face ...
i get them in my mouth on my tung and down in my troat.. i try do get them put by sptitting washing and everything but...
is there anything tomake them fewer or anything?
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Post by iwmlb68 on Jul 23, 2006 19:50:18 GMT -5
Please follow the links for treatment remedies, try to stay on the natural path as much as possible. Rest, be kind to yourself. I understand your suffering, hang in there. Much love xx
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Post by lil on Jul 23, 2006 20:17:41 GMT -5
for treatment remedies whats is that?
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Post by cb on Jul 23, 2006 20:23:34 GMT -5
see up top it will say supplements click on that you will find all kind of remedies. that should help you cope better with this stuff. take care god bless god loves us
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Post by grsue on Jul 23, 2006 22:14:27 GMT -5
Come on guys, let's just help her; HERE. Lill, When I started, I just asked questions, and read tons of threads. Heck, on my computer, I can't even read those headings ,that they are referring you to, on supplements, remedies-and,I was so computer illiterate,--( & still am,) I wouldn't have gone to the trouble I wouldn't have come back here.OK, maybe I'm just old. And,---lazy. It's a bit overwhelming for sure, to read all the info..there's so much to read. The disorder is crummy, and I wanted fast answers.No, I wanted a FAST CURE!! Hey, I STILL DO! Becky Bailey was really helpful to me. Maybe PM her.She had a lot to offer me at first, as do others. Perhaps, she will PM you the same info ,back to you, that she gave to me? SkyTroll told me to turn a fan on and I keep one on. Number one, clean. Keep things wiped off, dusted, vacuum. Keep your linens on your bed clean, blankets too. PineSol, or ammonia on the floors etc., (even in the wash), borax added to the wash, I use detergents with enzymes in it and have liked Surf(oxygenated).I like Palmolive Oxygenated Dish soap, and I use it to clean the tub, counters etc. Neaclean soap is recommended. It has the oxygen and lye, both in one bar. lil, you will have to experiment, but try to look at it like fun research. People have tried all sorts of things on their skin-I would start with oils,( I started with Castor OIl, which I think saved my face from being infested.) use olive oil,(or coconut oil, - mixed with a couple/few drops of tea tree in it, or peppermint oil; and rub... linseed is harsher, but it gets out the bigger stuff.Do that outdoors-.Flammable!!Then bathe. .I've soaked in enzyme baths-and at first that helped get it out. Some like Eco vie from Canada. Anytime you soak, in Epsomsalts,or in Vinegar and water, Aveeno Colloidal Oatmeal(soothing), put a few drops of peppermint oil or tea tree oil in the bath too.Rinsing your hair, after shampooing, with something like lemon juice, really stopped itchies for me.If I soak in vinegar and water, I submerge myself so the vinegar gets inmy ear canals, nostrils,hair, etc. Use mouthwash.I gargle with warm water, some table salt and an asprin when it's bad, like during the winter, every day.Suck on a menthol throat losenga? I drink water (lots of it)with lemon(fresh) ,and tonic water(diet with aspartame-and don't start on me on aspartame... ) Carbonated water, like Canada Dry with a lemon is good. I believe the carbonation helps. I take apple cider vinegar tabs, to start, 3 at one time on 1st day and 1, 3x a day, thereafter.I take an Asprin, am and PM- it's salacylic acid, take the coated type.IPeople are using salacylic acid on their skin, see Acne type products. Recently, one with copper in it has been suggested. I've just added Cat's C;aw to my regime.I take coconut oil daily in a shake of super greens and goat's milk(try to stay off milk for now). (Could be a fluke/worm at the root of this).Ask Carrie. Many like garlic, which is good-even found in anti -fungal(Garden of life brand). Lots of people use salt (like Thermotabs) and Vit C tabs daily, or MSM,(sulfur) and many use sulfur creams on the skin. There are inexpensive sulfur creams in stores- see-hispanic section of soaps, creams, etc.Try it.Or buy the powdered flowers of sulfur at the pharmacy and mix up your own. Also, I had a lot of help, originally with coal tar-Neutragena T-gel shampoo is good. Some used Selsun Blue.Wash all over with it .Sleep with your head up and a drink nearby, a fan on, and many swear by menthol crystals put out near the computer,-- and other mentol products, but the crystals seemed to be a big help. Order them online. Don't go crazy cleaning or rubbing your skin, but do keep yourself and your enviornments(car, desk, bed, bath, etc) very clean.That will be of some help. Other odd things to try, mothballs- throw them in the attic do when you will be gone for a while. Cedar- in your closets, cedar shampoo(pet store), cedar shavings. Oh, DE diatomaceous earth-pool stores and garden stores have it. Use on carpets, outdoors. I use Ortho crystals outside and diazanon(sp?). Keep the yard treated!!!!I bought inexpensive fly ribbons at the Dollar Store and lined window sills with them in areas I am in a lot, bathroom especially. Looks weird. Who cares? Helps. I use a swifter and try to keep the int and hair off the bathroom and kitchen floors. There's more. Someone else jump in. Good luck. grs
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Post by lil on Jul 23, 2006 23:05:54 GMT -5
grsue... ur an angel...
my english is not that good.. i dont understand all the words... i have tried reading everything.. i have adhd and some trouble reading. so its just to much for my head to get any of it in.. so my head just qiutes tryin...
(so u dont think im just too lazy to even try)
i do clean alot... as much as possible... i live very small just a room.. so it gets morged up at home 5 minites after i think its gone..
this PineSol and ammonia... u mean put it in like the washing mashine.. when i clean clothes? if not.. shouldt that be a good alternative...??
that was vey much to read.. thank you sooo much....
im gonna starta translating some of the things i didnt understand...
this is what i know can help...
sulfur.. tree three oil... coconut oil appele cider vinager... sea salt... ecovie.. garlic... pomegranate blueberry... Rifampicin.. Doxycycline sulfinex the zapper
please help me fill the list.. so i can start treating myself...
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Post by friskers on Jul 24, 2006 0:03:34 GMT -5
Try no sugar low carb anti candida diet. It may take a little while to work but most everyone feels better on that kind of diet. Do body shaves everyday with a razor, thats helped me so much and keeps the crawling down :-*Frisk
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Post by cb on Jul 24, 2006 10:03:35 GMT -5
all so a good vit are need it . allso try silver we get are from here 1-877-328 1744 but you can get it at a health food store . we all so use a vaporizer at night i dont no where you live but you can get one at walmart you put inhalant steam menthol vapors in it might get them out of your room . we all so use grass of the sea we get from 616 -677-2850 things that help us are things that work on the cells. hope you get well soon it take time but there is hope for all . take care god love us
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Post by Patti on Jul 24, 2006 12:12:00 GMT -5
Thank you all so much for taking the time to help Lil, especially your very informative post GRSue.....I am even printing it out for my own use. Trying to read all the posts here on a daily basis tends to jumble things up in my brain, and I can't count on my memory for much these days so I also appreciate the help.
Lil, since I know where you live you can email or PM me with any of the terms you might not understand. Together, we will all get you on some type of daily routine that will hopefully help to minimize your suffering.
Please hang in there, there is much hope right now and we all love you here......just keep a positive outlook as much as you can and know we're always here for you.
Love, Patti
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Post by tonie on Jul 24, 2006 13:23:54 GMT -5
Lil,
You may also experience alot of relief by taking 3,000 mgs total a day of vitamin C.
If you take 1,000 mgs morning, 1,000 afternoon, and 1,000 in the evening, I think it will help alot.
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Post by flutterby on Jul 24, 2006 13:41:35 GMT -5
Dear Lil, I am so happy that you decided to join our family here. We were all quite worried about you. I'm sure you can see from the numerous replies you received in a short period of time, all of us here share your experiences, and every post I read that was written to you, was full of support, compasion and understanding. One thing, pretty simple, to purge orgamisms from your skin. Tea Tree Extract Oil.... very effective when a small amount is added to a bathtub. The parasites do not like the scent of menthol, mint, etc. so the tea tree oil helps release those in the skin. After a soak of about 15 minutes you will see, small, almost dust like particles floating and all through the bath water. After a good soak, I usually get uner the shower to rinse off any remaining critters. God Bless You, Lil You are a Couragious woman. Stay Strong, my friend God Bless Us all, Love, Flutterby
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Post by beckybailey on Jul 24, 2006 14:09:47 GMT -5
Great place for translations: babelfish.yahoo.com/lil, please see the pm from me at the top of this page.
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Post by Patti on Jul 24, 2006 14:20:21 GMT -5
I will verify too how much the tea tree has helped me. I think that this was mentioned not too long ago but I usually buy my tea tree products when they're on sale, like right now: three 2-oz. bottles for $16.00......not bad at all. But it won't work for some of you since they have to ship UPS ground. Puritan's Pride tinyurl.com/ztfjkAlso, JWF recommends the menthol crystals and I really like using them.....you can place them around your home and also burn them in diffusers. His links were: Crystals www.wildroots.com/menthol-crystals-16-oz-p-2462.html Diffuser The link I had to Drustore.com is no longer accessable but you can find them just about anywhere, or even burn on the stove somehow....maybe?
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Post by grsue on Jul 24, 2006 21:59:45 GMT -5
lill,
I understand, completely, what you mean. This is A LOT to read and to understand. I get overwhelmed easily, too. I'm here to help, Patti, and the others too, will help you. You need a plan, that's all. Guys, let's put one together, based on experience.
I'll start. Anyone may delete this post and work up another plan. It's just a suggestion.
lill, copy ideas off this thread and other threads. High light ideas you want to try.
1. Go on a simple mediteranian diet Keep it simple. .Go to a mediteranian store and buy these: hummus, pita bread, tabouli, and drink water with lemon. Buy some carbonated WATER or tonic water to drink. Eat this for lunch and dinner. This is to not feed the Morgs in the body.
2.Buy this, Have ready: Asprin,( enteric coated.) Vitamin c, Vitamin B Complex, Applecider vinegar, garlic tablets, Big bottle of white vinegar / and Epsom salts for bath, a bottle ofammonia to use in the wash and on floors. peppermint oil and tea tree oil - one bottle of each oil. I prefer peppermint.
Take an Asprin, one in the morning, one in eve-IF you aren't allergic to it, a vitamin C and Vit B complex, every day.Take 3T of applecider vinegar, or the tablets, for 3-4 days.Do not eat sugar, milk, or anything else for 3-4 days.Start garlic tablets on day 4. Rest up today . Next day: Vacuum , dust, mop, clean bathrooms, windows and sills. Put mentol crystals around if you have them.
2.If you are going to take the Safeguard dog wormer, go get it(Walmart).Start this anytime. Patti, if you know where she lives, can someone order her the Dermatec and Eco- vie and see if she wants to try the fenben? If so this needs to be done now.She needs to pick a plan of attack. Get a copy of an anti-candida diet off the internet or order one.
3. Strip all the beds to the matresses. You will wash the linens, blankets, in hot water, laundry detergent, and a cup of ammonia.Wash all laundry .(BUT DO NOT MIX BLEACH AND AMMONIA WITH THE WHITE LOAD). Dry bedding. Vacuum the matresses. Spray the matresses with some ammonia in water from a spray bottle. Let it dry. Vacuum AGAIN. Put bedding back on. Change bedding every day, or every other day and wash it.
4. Dust and vacuum all rooms , top to bottom, vacuum sofas and chairs. Wash bathroom WELL. Use ammonia in soapy water. Or use PineSol in water. Using hot , soapy water with ammonia in it, wash the window sills and dry. Then, wash the windows with window cleaner. Put fly paper, or any double sided sticky tape in the window sills after they are clean and dry. ANY TAPE WILL DO FOR NOW. Do one room at a time.
5. Take a bath once or twice a day.. Use Epsom salts,Aveeno, or Vinegar in the water, wash hair too.
6. Once symptoms have gone, throw away everything that you feel is contaminated. Get jwf's protocal, start cat's claw, eat healthy, stay on anti-candida diet. Keep things clean. grs
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Post by greta on Jul 24, 2006 22:11:10 GMT -5
I got rid of all my clothes, moved, three months later, I started using doxycycline, and ketoconazole cream 8%, got rid of all my clothes again, and got only white cotton clothes. This way I can monitor my fiber levels, by seeing how many have fallen onto my shirt, and also avoid confusing my clothing fibers (white) with my morg fibers (black, blue, red, and shiny clear). The doxy helped reduce my fiber numbers drastically. After about three months, I stopped the doxy and the fiber levels went up drastically. They were everywhere again, so I am back on the doxy, and with it, the fiber levels went way back down.
Good luck to you!
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Post by H on Jul 25, 2006 19:15:57 GMT -5
Lil, To get them out of your house.
Get food grade D.E. ( diotomaciouse earth ) at internetgrocer.com 50 LB bag costs $50.00 delievered.
Put it on your floors and leave it down for as long as possible. Weeks.
Get a towel put it in the DE, open all your darws and closet doors shake the towel and leave the room let the dust settle.
Try not to breath it.
If you have carpets sweep it into your carpets.
The finer the coating the better. You do not need much. And be ready, it's a pain to clean up, you have to use a wet dry vacume to clean it up. but this is the only thing I have found that kills them
Lil, PM me if you have ?'s H
You will get through this.
Broax in your tub water will make you sick.
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Post by accudoc on Jul 25, 2006 22:49:38 GMT -5
I have been watching from the sidelines for awhile as I gotten bitten by a tick again and was reinfected so I had to refocus. But I am impressed with everyone. It seems that a plan of action is developing regarding the use of natural therapies. Good work. I would just add a few things: No wheat or gluten of any kind. Consider microwaving all the clothes as a pre wash if you can afford one. Also H2O2 2 cups of 35% should be added in the bath regime. Vacuum should be HEPA or the bags have to replaced everyday. I would be careful about humifiers unless there is an essential oil in there as the bugs like humidity. I like Rainforest Herbs AP for the parasite side it has cats claw, wormseed, quassia and others in it. Basic H will get alot of them out. Check out the Natural Genesis site for the protocol there using Basic H it was in a testimonial. Get a zapper it is fairly cheap and works well. Regards Accudoc
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Post by H on Jul 25, 2006 23:22:57 GMT -5
Get a de humidifier at home depot $ 150.00
Run it often when you are not at home. This will dry everthing out so they can't live.
H.
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Post by lil on Jul 26, 2006 0:47:16 GMT -5
hey you guys are really wonderful.. thank you soooo much... i have finally a coulpe pf crones and can by som stuff.. i made a list like bugg tejp i think be good for my house.. i have no carpets.. no yard or a lot of stuff that needs rid off the fibers.. its pretty much me.. my cloths... my curtains and my bed... im gonna get applecider vinager .. ammonia... today... i have no tub but im gonan visit moms... and try findind out where to get these menthol chrystals (whatever they are.. sounds like stuff for de throat but bigger) humifider. thats like an air cleaner right? diotomaciouse earth ... i google but get nuthing.. what is that? ketoconazole.. sounds intreseting.. prescridbed pills huh?pills and docucline.. there are a lot diffrent here in sweden... which one i the best? and these enzumes i read about.. what are they and is there stuff u can get in stores?
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Post by greta on Jul 26, 2006 8:15:15 GMT -5
Ketoconazole cream 8% - a cream - apply to affected areas, thickly and often. Do not eat.
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