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Post by tonie on Jan 22, 2007 19:14:33 GMT -5
Okay...get a load of this "theory" "please".
This just stuck me out from left field, and "MAYBE" this could be the problem, and not the "conspiracy theory" because I was thinking...how do all the doctors not see this....and how "could" anyone get to all of them to keep their mouths shut and continue to deem us DOP when WE know what we see and what we feel?
Well...I looked at it backwards...sort of.
Just a thought. And maybe I'm still flipped out from that last doctor and his DOP remedy for me. But:
Lets say for instance, okay, WE all were infected with NANO stuff.
Lets say at the beginning of our contamination WE did become attractive to insects...and that is why some ended up with Collembola, which isn't a common affliction/infection, and other things.
But now we take meds, whatever and we now have eliminated the "bugs" or most of them.
BUT...we are still left with NANO stuff, which we can still feel and THAT is what cannot be seen by the doctors...no matter how hard they truly look at our specimens.
And WE think our picking's/specimens ARE the critters, but in fact it is OUR skin, and our skin doesn't look right because it's infected with the nano stuff, but the nano is what they cannot see ....but inside the "specimens" that we've picked out, lies the truth...the NANO stuff...and they just cannot see it.
Does that make sense? And maybe some of us do have some "bugs/critters" still left and those people are the ones that they've found that in, but the PROBLEM really is the NANO is still inside us.
(Maybe too, that's why the Gulf War syndrome, it is destructive in the body, and it's very much known to the host of it, but it/nano cannot be seen by doctors when their looking at tissue and blood)
And the symptoms we're experiencing are all the same, just like a "common cold" is all the same symptoms, unless it gets into the lungs, and just like possibly this nano "infection" causes the body to do what it's doing, the specks the fiber balls, etc. And then it gets more destructive...that too is why the symptoms are the same as it advances. It's like a nano infection. And our symtoms are what they are because it's what "it/nano" does.
And yes...critters can be a part of this too...we are attracting them, but once we get rid of the critters, by whatever means...we're still left with the Nano stuff. And that is what cannot be seen.
Our tissue can be seen, we see it looking different, and really to the doctors maybe it's getting written off as to "debris" because that is what it looks like to them...the black stuff etc. But we've associated the "odd things" to the "invaders" when it is maybe our tissue or immune's response just being destroyed by the nano stuff. And only the FEW doctors can tell the difference, and they know what to look for "the fibers".
Bottom line, maybe when they/docs look, they still only see "our tissue" and nothing more because it is our tissue ...only "damaged" looking.
And maybe the nano is what is causing all the other health catastophies, and that too is getting only the attention of what the nano created...all the body malfunctions etc.
Just a wild thought, I hope.
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Post by life on Jan 22, 2007 19:45:26 GMT -5
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by tonie on Jan 22, 2007 19:49:44 GMT -5
Hi Life,
I kept thinking how can ALL the doctors "not" see it. They all can't be told to say the same thing...the DOP crapola.
Well...this is an idea/theory of why they can't (see it).
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Post by life on Jan 22, 2007 19:53:22 GMT -5
Hi Tonie~~
Yes, and if ALL doctors were 'informed', then wouldn't MY doctor have been?
Tonie, I know this doesn't belong on your post... but, have you bought the Cumanda yet?
I'm having some pretty incredible results so far.
I don't want to posta thread yet -- don't want to 'jinx' it, and want to be sure it continues.
life
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Post by reliefseeker on Jan 22, 2007 20:02:18 GMT -5
hi Tonie, I like the theory about the nano tech invader it is so small...and yes Life the Cumanda is absolutely great: no more flukes or tinglinging in my fingers...ordered the Burbur, and the Samento last night. Take care all..
Reliefseeker
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Post by life on Jan 22, 2007 20:03:15 GMT -5
You know, I never really thought much of the Chem-trail theory before. Not that I didn't think it could be -- just couldn't get my mind 'wrapped around' the idea is all.
When I read (to about pg 41 so far) the report about Nano research -- well, one study is on plane fuel.
So, couldn't it be altering bacteria and viruses, so many things that bugs of all different sorts vector? If the bugs, which birds, and small animals, land on and use to live are altered, then we can this too.
Canada did a study recently and found that LD is being found in migrating birds -- a higher increase of Babesia (a confection of LD) is being found in Washington, Oregon, and California. So, if Morgs is a b@asterdization of LD, or a coinfection of it, then could it be the Nano's have something to do with it?
I mean, in the study, Canada seemed to be mentioned as being 'further along' in the Nano technology, both studies and applications of it.
I'm rambling here .... but.....
life
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Post by life on Jan 22, 2007 20:05:20 GMT -5
Pez~~
Yes!
Another study is on fish, oceans, plant life is a BIGGY with them.
We could be getting 'hit' on so many sides.
Its reeling!
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Post by life on Jan 22, 2007 20:07:04 GMT -5
REliefSeeker~~
I ordered everything too!
I am SOOOOOOOO excited.
When we get going on it -- maybe we shoud start a post, say on the supplements section to discuss what is happening to us that are using it.
I'm having some pretty amazing results -- in just 3 days.
life
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Post by tonie on Jan 22, 2007 20:37:39 GMT -5
Life,
I've not ordered it yet, but next week if you're still doing great, (((which I hope to God you are))) I am definately going to order it.
And thank you.
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Post by life on Jan 22, 2007 20:43:41 GMT -5
Yes, I don't want to post until I'm certain -- although, I'm pretty amazed so far at the results.
I thought I'd wait until I've gone at least a couple of weeks.
You know, most definitely, that 'this' can cycle itself, but its different somehow.
And... I am thinking the Nano thing has GOT to be a big part of this, which is why I don't keep running to doctors, thinking they can help me.
NOt that some doctors aren't great -- just, I don't have the money, nor do I have the stamina to be told, yet again, I'm DOP.
But, then, allopathic medicine is what I have considered to be alternative medicine for a few decades now -- ever since they mis-diagnosed me for other things.
If the Nano is right (at least a big part of this), then we need to find what it takes to help our bodies change back its DNA/RNA, so we stop the 'terra-forming' of our bodies.
I do think we can figure this out -- together.
hugs, life
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Post by victoreah on Jan 22, 2007 21:02:22 GMT -5
tonie, I think your theory makes "ahelluva lotta cents!" ;D That might also explain the different phases of manifestation in many Morgellons sufferers. The nano stuff could be affecting us in different ways. It could be the particles themselves that we have adverse reactions to, it could also be that we are bitten by insects that have been affected, more prone to bacterial disease which is then passed along to us (already with depleted immune systems due to being exposed to the nano stuff) and it starts a vicious cycle. Perhaps you are right that the doctors can't see the nano stuff and because they have no other point of reference, simply label sufferers as DOP. I do believe a "NEW DAY" is just around the corner! I will say that at least the internal meds doc I was seeing took punch biopsies and was able to get a bacterial skin infection confirmed. And at least my primary care doc is interested in what is causing this and wants to try to help me when more research makes it a little clearer about what is causing this. She admits her hands are tied until more is known. So you could be hitting the nail on the head, girl! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by tonie on Jan 22, 2007 21:10:54 GMT -5
Thanks...it's just a "possible" reason why all the docs do keep saying the same thing...cause if they'd been told to say "DOP" that really would be difficult to get to all of them...and for all of them to not "tell" someone, and that would spread like wild fire.
So I thought...how can that be??? Well..they don't see it.
And "maybe too" that is why when we get near electrical things too...we feel the crawlies more, because of the "magnetic energy from these fibers"...and the moon, the gravitational pull of it all...and at night, it all affects energy, and these "nano's" are run by energy, ours, our electrical impulses, and why we get shocked when we touch things too...we're full of "electricity" basically.
I sure don't know...but it too could be just as much nano I suppose as an "invader as in "fluke/worms/whatever" too, that most docs aren't educated enough to see also.
And the only reason I'm going on the Nano part is cause of our fibers...they're not normal, and yet they're alive, but not by "mother natures" doing.
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Post by life on Jan 22, 2007 21:56:36 GMT -5
Tonie~~
YES!!!!!!!!!
again!
This brings to mind my neighbor, who is convinced that we need to use magnetics -- among other things -- and Ozone as well as Far-infared saunas. She healed her son, and herself of many things, including LD that way, many years ago.
Did you read the part in the article that spoke of them being negatively charged?
How about their comments on Ozone effectson it and UV?
How about the tubes they found them to produce, not to mention 'strings' of them?
What about the silica used?
OH, so much.... much.
So, where to go from here? If anywhere right now. Perhaps Dr. Hildy will be able to figure this out -- I believe this is close to her field.
Or???
Anyone who can think outside of the box, and is not afraid to go against the establishment -- that leaves few, very few.
But, how many do we need? Just one to figure it out.
So, you know what my prayers are going to? To open the minds, and hearts of those who can be led to 'see' and not be 'blind'.
life
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Post by lurker on Jan 22, 2007 22:14:07 GMT -5
Tonie, dead on, that is exactly it. I got rid of the collembola, mites, and whatever else I had, however, the nano-plague is still in my body, you are in fact thinking exactly the same thing I have been thinking for two weeks. I've known for quite a while that the stuff I feel in my body now is nothing like it was in the beginning, more electrial shock to crawling but the two are so intertwined. The nano-plague drills holes all throughout our skin, leaving what should be a nice protective membrane shredded with tiny holes, mold spores and fungal spores get trapped in our skin and grow, along with candida from our own bodies, thus the bugs, but the trick is, the bugs are merely a ruse, the nano-fibers are in fact the root cause.
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Post by life on Jan 22, 2007 22:18:54 GMT -5
Lurker~~
Don't be so sure! The bugs can vector the Nano-changed bacteria, fungus, virus. And.... visa-versa as in what you are saying.
Don't be so dogone sure!
life
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Post by lurker on Jan 22, 2007 22:23:31 GMT -5
Well, good point, suppose we have the nano-devils in us, and they are carried by the mites from us to others or vise versa, yes, a definite possiblity, sort of symbiotic relationship, however, what mites, the common skin mite? could be, carpet mites, maybe? Still, it is the nano-devils that are the enemy and I do believe the nano's are the main cause of the skin disorder not the insects ....
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Post by laylo on Jan 22, 2007 22:24:25 GMT -5
I have ray cages supporting my back. I'm not even suppose to get an MRI. So how do you suppose this would affect me?
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Post by zabrubon on Jan 22, 2007 23:23:47 GMT -5
I don't know if this relates to the Nano, but my body secretes some funky smell, especially in the joint area. It smells rancid. Unless this smell is from my antibiotics and my body secretes the smell, which then wards off the bacteria in the air and the bacteria that is attracted to my skin.
What ever this stuff is cause me to have a thicker skin and abnormal amount of hangnails etc, which may be the reason my lesion don't clear up.
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Post by prevenge on Jan 23, 2007 0:38:34 GMT -5
This is from the Canadian article post: Dr. Vitaly Citovsky, a professor of biochemistry and cell biology at the State University of New York, says he found a gene from agrobacterium -- a germ that normally infects plants -- in skin samples from two Morgellons patients. I am leaning towards this as an answer, rather than nano technology. what canadian article? could you link this please? -M
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Post by lydski on Jan 23, 2007 1:49:16 GMT -5
Prevenge, its the last post on the second thread (Media Alert.. People's Magazine)
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