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Post by millenium2 on Jan 23, 2007 23:00:22 GMT -5
Has anyone heard what is happening with Dr. Staninger and Dr. Karjoo and their research? I have asked a few people but have gotten no response yet.If nothing is going on then I would like to know that as well.
Is Staninger still planning to write her article regarding her findings?Are the other lab results in yet from those other labs, or did they ever get the money to get their results? Have they found a lab to do exams in yet? Are they planning to accept people's samples soon?
What is going on?
Just curious as I have a load of samples to send them -
thanks Mil.
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Post by lurker on Jan 23, 2007 23:10:55 GMT -5
From what I understand Dr. Staninger and team have pinned this down to (and excuse the term, it's not a correct term but I'll use it) nano-machines, it appears to be man-made, self replicates and can distort other DNA it runs into, it is highly electrical and will communicate (or cause a biological response) when a person with the nano-machines get's closes enough to another person. I have stressed for more information, that is all I know right now. However, it appears that the nano-machine findings are undebateble, undeniable proof. Could be? but I don't know. We have a psuedo-living fiber optic cable system growing in us it would appear ... See www.dldewey.com/morgel.htm
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Post by bannanny on Jan 23, 2007 23:15:39 GMT -5
All I know is they're still waiting for another $10,000 to be able to get the remainder of the results from a lab. I'm gonna go ahead and e-mail them again, cuz I (and I'm sure all of us) want to know what's going on too.
love ~~ bannanny
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Post by life on Jan 24, 2007 1:41:43 GMT -5
LUrker~~
that's about right, unfortunately for us. I think that's why the sea salt baths have helped me so much -- its drawing properties -- even though salt will not kill Nanos, I can at least keep 'pulling' them out of my body.
So, while they are working on the Nano end of this, I'm going to continue to figure out how I can get rid of all the other internal stuff I've got; LD, Babs, 2 kinds of staff.
and, build my immune system.
life
and pray for them to have wisdom, and with wisdom, to get understanding
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Post by zabrubon on Jan 24, 2007 2:13:41 GMT -5
May I ask then if this is true, the nano stuff, then how does the antibiotics work to keep them at bay? Just curious. ChicagoBonnie
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Post by zabrubon on Jan 24, 2007 2:14:43 GMT -5
Hey Life, what is the beginning of wisdom?
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Post by godog on Jan 24, 2007 9:32:17 GMT -5
So how does this stuff self=replicate? As you all here know, I do the flour and water thing and get thousands of these egg and worm thingies. Well, last night I found one of the eggs sticking to my finger as I sat on the couch so I was in the lamplight and I squished it and there was a little squiggly worm thing in it. I squished the worm-thing and then pulled it apart and out pulled a fiber, probably more inside, but I threw down the squished egg part to look at the fiber. But anyway, those eggs have fibers inside. Now, would a man-made, self-replicating machine self-replicate by means of eggs? And what is laying these eggs? Boy, this is the ultimate, which came first, the chicken or the egg question. I have fibers i n the eggs that are in me and coming out of my skin and apparantly there are a brazilian of them in me. Gave me nightmares. I am very depressed and bummed out about this. Everyday I wonder how many more years can I live like this and I am trying to steel myself mentally to the fact that I am really, really screwed.
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Post by valerie on Jan 24, 2007 13:07:48 GMT -5
yeahpez and godog>>>enquiring minds want to know.....I wish someone would explain the nano machine theory to me....how did it get in the body............and how do we get it out!
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Post by godog on Jan 24, 2007 15:02:46 GMT -5
No, it was not a round ball of fibers, it was like an egg. A round capsul that had a worm type thing in it, the worm-thing, when pulled apart, a fiber came out from the worm. The worm-things make the fibers. I never really knew that till yesterday. It was definatley an egg as we know it. That is significant to m e.
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Post by janedough on Jan 24, 2007 22:38:22 GMT -5
Guys, Here is what I have come to understand. With modified dna, you can take bacteria, combine it with fungus, humans, plants, any of the kingdoms and create something new. I assume that when your bacterial load gets too high (as in people with pre existing auto immune deficiencies) The abnormal genes take over. Your body can no longer fight that hard. Either that OR because it is modified into your own dna, your body is unable to recognize it as a foreign invader and thinks it is part of you and you therefore keep on producing the same thing over and over. Therefore I guess we could speculate that this is retro viral? I am at the point where I know that in my lifetime ( i am 37) I will NEVER have the answers.
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Post by lurker on Jan 24, 2007 23:15:38 GMT -5
godog, may I ask what equipment you are using to see these things? With the naked eye? You found an egg, then squished the egg and out came a worm, then squish the worm and out came fibers? Really? I'm sure you are seeing something but my guess is your interpretation is not correct.
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Post by cyn on Jan 24, 2007 23:34:05 GMT -5
ONLY ONE TEAM OF DOCTORS HAVE STATED THEY WERE NANO ROBOTICS. UNTIL THAT IS VERIFIED BY OTHER SCIENTISTS IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
THEN THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW IT GAINS ENTRY, WHAT IT WANTS TO DO TO US, HOW TO STOP ITS GROWTH.
THEY THEN MAY GO THROUGH YEARS OF CLINICAL TRIALS TO FIND ANSWERS TO TREATMENT.
HOW IN THE WORLD WOULD OUR BODIES BE ABLE TO REBUILD ALL THE MUSCLE, TENDON, BONE, AND LIGAMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN REPLACED BY FIBER.
HOPEFULLY THEY WILL HAVE ANSWERS FOR OUR CHILDREN.
tHE ANTIBIOTICS ARE FOR THE PARASITES THAT TAG ALONG WITH MORGELLONS, ALSO THE GOOD PARASITES IN OUR BODIES HAVE GONE HAYWIRE AND NOW WORK FOR THE OTHER SIDE, THESE PARASITES CAN BE TREATED WITH ANTIBIOTICS.
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Post by life on Jan 25, 2007 3:48:15 GMT -5
Hi ChicagoBonnie~~
The beginning of wisdom was actually me paraphrasing an old Jewish Proverb. It actually says, "may you have wisdom, and with wisdom, understanding."
So, for me, people may be wise and extremely intelligent, but with all their 'wisdom', if they don't 'understand', they can't apply their wisdom.
hugs, life
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Post by tonie on Jan 25, 2007 10:24:38 GMT -5
How true Life.
Now here's my "paranoid" theory of how we contracted this. And I say that because this is going to sound "paranoid-ed".
My neighbors don't have this, yet we do.
From the beginning I thought, how can this be, still is a big question in my mind.
But the only way WE have this, and my neighbors don't is ((IF)) particular people were "targeted" and how does one target?
By the mail. Very easily that can be done. Another "backup" reason I say this, is because OUR phones have NOT been right since the onset of this.
When I first came aboard this wonderful group/board, I'd asked that question, if anyone else's phones were screwy.
My home phone WAS and STILL is not right. ANYTIME I'm on the phone calling whomever, we'll hear it beep, we'll hear it click, and it becomes 'hollowy' sounding, it will also sound like someone is actually in another room hanging or picking up the extension, and this is anytime I make a call.
You know when you're on your phone, if you were to press one of the numbers? That sound it makes...well..that's what my phone will blatently do, WHEN I talk about something "other" than Morgellons....now isn't that intersting too? Doesn't matter if I'm talking to my folks, friends, or family...this is what happens constantly.
So please know, that I do know this sounds odd and paranoid, but I believe fully that I have a pretty good head on my shoulders, and it's not paranoia or coincidental because it goes on every time I phone someone.
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Post by lydski on Jan 25, 2007 13:46:34 GMT -5
So....maybe I shouldn't have opened the mail on that CERTAIN day? I'd believe anything I hear right now, Tonie. I mean I still can't believe this has happened to me period.. Ya Know?!!
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Post by buginarug on Jan 25, 2007 13:59:16 GMT -5
I posted this on another board. I can't believe this has happened to me as well. Just thought I'd share my thoughts over here as well.
Why me? I can only speculate as to how many of us ask this of ourselves. It is a logical question. People all over the world with many afflictions ask this in the beginning, the middle, and at the end of their suffering. Why me? Perhaps there is an answer. Maybe, just maybe there is a possibility that all those who are joined in their suffering are meant to ingage in self discovery. To look beyond the pain. To look within for the answer. For me, personally, I have screamed at the top of my lungs in frustration and dispair only to be left with pitty and anger. I have moped around the house in confusion as to where I go next. I have questioned the importance of my existance, in all aspects ranging from my family to here on earth. I have tried to will this away, while looking down my nose at it. In the beginning I used to curl up in a ball and cry, lashing out at everyone and everything that interfered with my self pitty. I did this because of many reasons. If I held on to the pain and pitty it gave me an excuse to wallow around in it. If I concentrated on how bad I felt, it gave me permission to be angry, which so desperately I needed to feel as I did not understand what was happening to me, the whole me. I have screamed so incredibly loud WHY ME, GOD, WHY ME, that my voice dissapeared and exaustion took its place. I can not even begin to describe how powerless I felt at this time when I looked into my little girls eyes which were filled with such pitty, nor my husbands face as he sat on the other side of the room, scared to go near me. My words were harsh, my thoughts evil, and my actions were unforgivable. Ahhh, but all to necessary. I needed to go through that to get where I am today.
It was inevitable that man, in his conquest for perfection woud shake hands with mother earth and then spit on her. So it is us that are here to deal with the consequences and wade through the ugliness of this disaster. Mother nature is beautiful and perfect in her own right. When you go trying to perfect something that is already perfect, what do you get? In my opinion, utter disaster on a whole new level. Which is exactly what we are dealing with. So it is up to us to pick up the pieces, and try to make sense out of something that makes no sense at all. I am still shaking my head in disbelief.
So here I am, just your average joe, hanging my head in shame, wading through the gunk and trying to pick up the pieces, trying to make sense of nonsense, all the while sreaming why me? It is a lot to swallow, and if you don't chew your bites carefully, you'll choke. Perhaps that is why suicide was the only option for those who chose that path. I urge every one considering this route to look within yourself and chose the one less traveled. It is there, I promise. If you can't find it look harder for at the end of that road is hope
Why me? For every person asking this, there is a different answer.
Ponder, if you will, the possibility that this affliction did not choose you, rather you chose it. You sat down and wrote out a life chart, mapped it out very carefully before being born. Throughout your lifetime there are lessons you learn, most in part to help you grow to be a better person, to advance spiritually. One hurdle after another until you get the meaning behind it. Do you ever say to yourself " Gosh, one thing after another, does it ever stop" I have, and the only thing I can come up with is NO. No it doesn't stop. Not until you've learned the lesson you were meant to learn. Life is funny that way, ever noticed?
I don't know about you, but I have learned so much about myself this past year. I did this by asking the hard questions, leaving no room for self doubt and pitty. It makes sense to me that I have this disease, although I am less than thrilled with having it and all that it entails. I am supposed to learn something, if not many things from being sick. So far I have learned that I am stronger than I thought I was, I am more patient, more understanding, less weak minded, and I am ever reminded of how my inner spirit has grown.
Hope is something we wake up with every morning, even though you may lie in bed at night with despair. Hope is a powerful thing, a state of grace, if you will. With hope any thing is possibe. I like possible. Much more so than the opposite of hope, hopeless. That, my friends is something we are not. We are not hopeless yet, or ever for that matter.
We will walk out of this mess that we find ourselves in,maybe not today,or tomorrow, but we will. We have hope, we have eachother, and we have faith, that's all we need.
Love to all Ali
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Post by lydski on Jan 25, 2007 16:34:29 GMT -5
Thank you for your post buginarug. It does make sense. I'll probable read it several times.
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Post by godog on Jan 25, 2007 19:46:58 GMT -5
lurker, I saw the egg, worm and fiber with my barenaked eyes. I'm telling you exactly what I saw. It is very disturbing and I am very upset.
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Post by godog on Jan 25, 2007 19:52:31 GMT -5
Lurker, I'm sorry if I seem snippy, but I saw that and I hate that I saw that. So, I'm having a hardtime with this one. It kind of reminded me of a litttle white fish egg, that is what is coming out bigtime out of my skin. I'm just so sick of this. I am not a happy camper.
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Post by lurker on Jan 25, 2007 20:30:01 GMT -5
Well godog, me too, I don't want that to be in me, my thing is how can it be that big, are you still doing fenben? I wouldn't, it doesn't work in the end. I don't understand, if you can do this quite regulary can't you get a doctor involved? I hate this crap man
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