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Post by friskers on Feb 5, 2007 2:18:35 GMT -5
I went to visit my ex husband in the hospital and hes got tons of white colored scars on both his forearms, that look like morgellons scars. Anybody know if if carpentry work would cause alot of scars like that? Thanks, Frisk
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Post by ANTHILL on Feb 5, 2007 8:50:06 GMT -5
I went to visit my ex husband in the hospital and hes got tons of white colored scars on both his forearms, that look like morgellons scars. Anybody know if if carpentry work would cause alot of scars like that? Thanks, Frisk Back in the good Ol'days when I was a Carpenter monkey I was always was getting cut and dinged up it was to be expected really Not much ever happed to my fore arm's manly my hands,shins and the occasional bump on the head from anything from a two x fours to tools dropped from the above upper echelons of the construction project One time of note I had just filled my nail bags up with 16p nails and was hurrying back to where the crew was working and I tripped on a scrap pile and landed with all my weight on my nail bags with my bum About ten nails went through the leather of my nail bags the result was that my nail bags got nailed to me bum I won't go into the gory details on how I got them out except to say it wasn't so pretty On the other side of night I do have morgellons scarring on my arms from my shoulder to my elbows
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Post by ed on Feb 5, 2007 9:46:50 GMT -5
ah........Ant, interesting story about you gettin' nailed.... your turn Friski....Ed
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Post by friskers on Feb 5, 2007 11:30:59 GMT -5
Oh Ant.......im so sorry about your nailed but!! That musts been very painful! Im going to visit again tonight and i will ask him what happenend to his arms. When we were married 25 years ago he would wake up with scraches on his nose and he would blame me! Now why would I scrach him in the middle of the night!? Anyway after we split he still got the scraches so that was kind of weird. ED................I will think of something funny when my brain wakes up ;D
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Post by tonie on Feb 5, 2007 12:07:51 GMT -5
Ant...that's awful! Reminds me of when I fell backwards into catus! But nails, ouchie!
Friskers, that's something too...being blamed for the scratches, what's he say now, that it's still happening without your presence?
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Post by belikewater on Feb 5, 2007 13:08:09 GMT -5
Frisk, Look at his upper arms. I have white scars there and on lower forearms, too from Morgies. Look like burn blister scars.
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Post by discovery on Feb 5, 2007 13:27:29 GMT -5
What about white scar-like spots that appear with no apparent prior injury, lesion, etc.?
That has happened to me and I can't explain it. They are irregular-shaped white spots for no OBVIOUS reason.
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Post by belikewater on Feb 5, 2007 13:29:53 GMT -5
discovery, The white spots are the de-pigmentation of the skin Morgellons does. Sometimes it causes freckles or darker pigmentation, too.
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Post by life on Feb 5, 2007 23:09:54 GMT -5
Hi Friski~~
Sometimes, when I get a white scar looking thing just under the skin -- usually on my forearms -- they turn into a full-blown Morg and grow under the surface of the skin and stay for months, or years.
Don't know if its the same as your X though.
life
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Post by friskers on Feb 6, 2007 2:24:37 GMT -5
When I first noticed the scars he was in ICU and the lights were very bright ,they were very noticable. Kind of looked like he got mauled from a lion. Tonight they had moved him to another room and the scars were barely noticable but I asked him anyway, what happenend to his arms. he said it was nothing , just getting banged up at work. Hmmmmmm not sure what to think! Tonie, that was so many years ago but when I mentioned that he was still getting scraches and it couldnt possibly be me , he just couldnt beleive it and said he thought for sure it was me but he said " I guess Im doing it to myself"! So if your skin is tan and you get a cut, does it heal into a white scar? Or does morgellons have something to do with the white scarring, Anyone know?
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Post by ruth on Feb 6, 2007 9:02:58 GMT -5
this is the only image i have right now and it is closeup, the white is a large scar area. tinyurl.com/2fel4gwith me, the scars appear part of the organisms' system, and the main root is deep in the tissues, it grew the entire length of my body, then started shooting off to encompass my body. excrutiating........... what i can SEE is the off branches as they grow closer to the surface. and, of course, the release of its' end products. i have mentioned before that under the right conditions, these same organisms spit out balls that line up & connect to make the fibers. they also put out white floaties, black spore things,etc. TO ME, the fiber organisms are the scars, they are more fluid in the body. when conditions change, so do their appearance. from my deep exploratory, they are protected by slick biofilm that covers them when disturbed & threatened. the biofilm is made in AN INSTANT, with those first deep thick tracks the offshoots continue to grow. those are the ones i am able to see on the surface of my skin. organisms appear to connect together to make the scar tracts and contain the 'beds' of organisms near the skin. the beds form a circle of about 6. each organism can be teased to pop out early and it pops out vertically to the skin. if you can't tease them to let go, you'll rip the skin to get them out. i could only see this when i did the exploratory and went deep. i believe that only when the white scar tracts dissolve or break apart is when i will be able to get a handle on this disease process.
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Post by tonie on Feb 6, 2007 9:37:41 GMT -5
Friski,
You asked what makes "hypopigmentation" basically (the white scars) on the skins surface.
Skin has several "layers" within one of the layers is Melanocytes that produce melanin, the dark pigment that gives skin its color.
When or "if" the skin is (invaded/cut/etc) deep enough (to the melanocytes) layer, those cells become damaged, and that's what causes hypopigmentation/lighter spots in the area. That's why all cuts or abrasions "don't always" leave "marks/scars" because it all depends on the depth of an injury, whether those melanocyte cells have been affected or not.
That too is why a topical, even retin A, copper peptides with salicylic, or glycolics applied topically "after the itch spot" or injured spot has healed closed is important, because those "topicals" keep cells "moving", which is the name of the game to keep the skin in it best condition - basically these topicals give the skin a hand, they help it perform better.
Cells move upwards normally, but very slowly as we age. These "topicals" actually induce a faster turnover deep within in the skin, because dormant cells within the skin will always leave traces of an injury if the wound is deep enough. So keeping the skin cells "stimulated" is what will always cause the skin to look fresher, and chances of scarring will be minimized too.
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Post by laylo on Feb 6, 2007 10:18:31 GMT -5
I'll try to get my pics posted soon.
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Post by Metta on Feb 6, 2007 10:58:12 GMT -5
Just the other day on one of the channels was the movie, Born Losers.. a Billy Jack movie, I told my family the story of going to the show and seeing Billy Jack, and the next day my friend & I were going to lay out in the sun, we had our sun-tan lotion, a BIG heavy bottle of baby oil, that at the time we would also put iodine in the oil to make ya tanner.. wellll.. there's my friend shwoing off by doing a Billy Jack kick, she slips, falls back on the bottle and had thick Big pieces of glass in her arse that I had to pull out! (Umm for those of you old enough, I think the line in the movie is something like this--"I'm gonna put this foot right there on that side of your cheek, and there isn't anything you can do about it") I have photo's of the sores, and scars.. but most are of an area that I wouldn't want posted Anywhere!! How-ever those who got sick around me, we all had the same scar on aboutthe same place, on the front of the right leg?? it looked like someone had put out a cigarette on there, round, pinkish, with a black dot in the middle, the scar is about gone now, but that is one of the areas where I have weird ingrown hairs that look 'fake' and come right out! The dark spots on my arms now are white spots! And where I had sores under my breasts there are scars, and of course the scar from the biopsy done by the derm! In all the area's I had sores there is what looks like a larger pore hole... all of these area's are where I also have the exodus of the 'Fibers" Like they made a pathway??? and that is where they exit from me?? Hope your husband feels better! Metta
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Post by tonie on Feb 6, 2007 11:15:45 GMT -5
Metta,
You said where there's been the sores, there's a "larger pore hole".
Can you help me out here, I'm wondering...okay, I'll try and explain what I mean so you can tell me more.
Are the what you're calling "pore holes", are they an "actual looking pore hole" or are they more like an "indented circular" hole that has been left in the skin?
Does that make sense?
Like facial pores, those are not what I'd call "indented circular" holes, as from scars.
But do the pores "look like they are "active"? Meaning they're "actual" air holes, if you know what I mean.
Does that help? So I guess what I'm trying to ask you, is the "large pore holes" that you mention, do they appear still "active" in that they're 'not' just an indented scar?
Cause if they still seem "active", like (breathing holes really) then I can relate totally! I've found that there's something as in "mother nature" as part of this that needs "air" really.
And as long as those "breathing holes" are present, the things lie beneath, and aren't gone. Once topicals are applied and the area has been "cleaned out", then those "holes" close up.
My pores on my face had opened awhile back, they became abnormally large...and now that I'm picking and removing the "things" out of my skin in my face, those pores are all now back to normal.
And the "lesions" have basically "consolidated" into more individual lesions, instead of seeming like something was living entirely under my facial skin where that seemed to be the reason that all my pores were "open". Now it's weird, the pores are normal, and it's the nests that I'm working on.
I sure hope that makes sense.
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Post by friskers on Feb 6, 2007 23:55:48 GMT -5
Thanks Ruth for the pictures. The first picture of the scab actually is pretty identacle to a couple a scabs he has but the scars are different, some of them are long like a scratch. I didnt notice him itching or any fibers so Maybe Im just being paranoid. thanks Tonie for the skin info. Ive been meaning to tell you I got a pretty good cut on my finger so I put a glob of glytone on it and covered with duct tape and no black specs or anything strange to report. Something odd is going on thats for sure to have black specs come out of your skin~ Oh and the scars were not above the elbow. Any pics of scars are still welcome! Thanks
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Post by Metta on Feb 7, 2007 11:39:56 GMT -5
Welll.. after writing this I went to look, and you can still see the scars under my breasts... the hole is barely visible now, but all under my breast I have white bumps? there are bigger bumps right on the scars.. so I squeezed a couple-- out came a Thick glob of white gunk! ewwwww.... In the past few days I have also gotten some of these ?? white looking bumps on my face.. there is one under my left eye right now, it is in the corner edge not near my nose, it has a white head, but is NOT a white head?? it hurts something fierce, and there is a big lump under it..I have NOT touched it! Wellll.. the pore-hole's are bigger than a pore-hole.. when I had the sores and they were very gross looking.. the ooozed a green pus, and you could see two holes in one sore.. the ones on my breasts were the worst of all of them. They had the look of a volcanic crater, swirling down. When the exodus of these things is going on, I can just take a pad of peroxide & swipe and the pad is loaded with fibers! The one sore I had at the top of my crotch still does this too.. I can feel that itchy feeling and swipe and there they are! Damn I am so sick of this!!! Metta
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Post by tonie on Feb 7, 2007 15:44:24 GMT -5
Metta,
I know what you mean...and under my left breast..I too had a spot that would itch and then become lumpy and I'd squeeze it too...and all this white waxy feeling gunk would come out. I kept putting "salicylic cream" under the breast and that's now "history", it stopped completely.
Friskers...I'm glad you tried that...and no black specks..that's GREAT! And Glytone, that is exactly the first product I used "and by accident" found the black specks happening. Isn't that something. Well..I sure don't understand this. Here I'm loaded with black stuff all under anywhere in my skin, yet I feel totally healthy...and really..none of this makes sense.
And I thank you for trying that. I hope it didn't sting too much.
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Post by friskers on Feb 8, 2007 22:59:46 GMT -5
Ok now I am concerned , my ex said his forearms itched like crazy the othe night and it drove him mad. He said he finally washed his fore arms and put on ,medicated powder and hes fine now. I hope I didnt pass him anything , he was in such agony when I first saw him he wanted me to hold his hand, whitch I did for at least 15 minutes. Time will tell I supose but Im not going to tell him anything about morgellons as of now
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Post by brandytwirl2 on Feb 11, 2007 0:59:11 GMT -5
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