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Post by freaky on Feb 4, 2007 4:07:27 GMT -5
:)http://www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/012707ccdrKVUEbirds.27a0562f.html Don't know why that didn't work when I hit enter. On the right hand side of kvue.com/news/top/stories, on the bottom half of the page, it says More Bird Death Answers Found. This was extremely interesting to me I suppose because it hits so close to home, Austin, where I live. The article is from last Sunday. Please excuse me if someone already posted it. Dr. Skellenger is my darling dog's vet, presently treating them for Morgellons, & was interviewed in this article. He stated the change in the weather for the birds had the same effect on kids. The cold weather doesn't make them sick, but puts a stress on the immune system, which can make them sick. It was like 38 hours since the birds had eaten, give or take a few hours, cause I'm not sure. This didn't seem to be of any importance to the good Doc. What he said was that the birds were HIGHLY PARASITIZED. FAR OUT, huh? - well, food for thought. personal messenger, freaky
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Post by janedough on Feb 4, 2007 11:09:29 GMT -5
Oh so stress now causes parasites? Those delusional birds. They need some orap for crys sake.
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Post by freaky on Feb 5, 2007 22:12:06 GMT -5
Not really Janedough. Stress doesn't cause parasites. Excuse me if my wording made one think that. The quick change in the weather, & the drop in temperature were considered as possible factors causing the birds to die. Dr. Skellenger considered this an irrelevant factor as weather has the same effect on birds as it does kids. The change doesn't make them sick. If the weather drops in temperature, & a kid with a low immune system is outside without a jacket, that kid may get sick. The birds didn't die because of a low immune system. According to Dr. Skelllenger, it was because of parasites only. - freaky -
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Post by ed on Feb 5, 2007 22:22:07 GMT -5
ah......low immune system opens up the snack bar to parasites... Ed
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Post by sammy on Feb 5, 2007 22:49:08 GMT -5
To many for low immune as an answer, google what animal is dying in numbers and you will see, crows,owls,otters,fish. They will say global warming or other. Stops any curious questions. This illness will spread.
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Post by ed on Feb 5, 2007 23:02:23 GMT -5
ah......parasites are seconday infections... just another symptom that confuses the issue.. Ed
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Post by sammy on Feb 5, 2007 23:25:15 GMT -5
I had the parasite from the time it started. I was the first to find them. My dog got it first and died. Then I got it. They told me it was brain cancer that got him. He got hot, then he just sat and stared into space, he got on a water drinking thing. I got onto a crushed ice eating thing. Couldn't get enough of it. Something I never did before. I look at this like, we all became a target for worms to get us? It started in us to begin with. Garth helped me with this. Like the vets, they made their wives sick, their kids sick, their pets sick and they died. Yet it stayed within the confines of the military and went no where else.... Not that am saying we have gulf war sickness.Just logic. I felt these grow and drop inside me from something that started on my shoulder that looked like ring worm. Hence this nightmare started. This gets into every cell and your DNA, it hides, it mimics and unless killed, it comes back over and over. Or later they will tell you that you have cancer, and all the other stuff they have attached to this illness. You never feel well and when you do it's short lived. Because it's still in you somewhere. We have tried everything on this parasite and we know it's going to take alot to kill it. One little tiny one anywhere and it will come back. It was there in the begining. It just keeps spreading through out your body. Just like a cancer does.
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Post by freaky on Feb 6, 2007 1:19:31 GMT -5
No, No Ed, the low immune system did not open up the doors to the snackbar. A low immune system was not mentioned in correlation with the birds. Gez, usz guys. What's with all the negativity? Dr. Skelllenger is the good guy, an open minded dr. so far. He didn't mention any garbage related to these dead birds cept they were dead as door nails (my words), & they were fully parasitized. (his words) Now lighten up you pessimism, & try not to make something out to be more, & dreadful as it is. The good doc denied all the garb, & narrowed the factors in question to !. ONE - Parasites You people are cracken me up. Maybe a boreing subject to all, you could try to read it. But, then you'd have to tire yourself out, & copy, & paste. Just kidding. freaky ;D
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Post by suebee on Feb 6, 2007 8:58:35 GMT -5
A doctor that has the guts to say a person or critter died from parasites in this perfect parasite free country of ours has GUTS. Your pup is lucky to have a "open minded REAL DOC" on it's side. I thought our Vet. would be open to this disease and really want to look into it. I was wrong. I get the poor pitiful DOP looks from all the folks in her office when I take my dogs in. We've lost two dogs to Morgellons and have one with it now to the point her eyes are in very bad shape, full of fibers all the time. Vet tells us it's a dry eye syndrom and the fibers are just duct, pollen, ect. ect. Love and good health to all, Suein MD
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Post by tonie on Feb 6, 2007 11:55:44 GMT -5
I thought the birds were first "parasitized" and that's what lowered their immunes, then with the cold weather, they were unable to tolerate any more.
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Post by freaky on Feb 7, 2007 5:37:38 GMT -5
Thank you Suebee. You get a Brownie Point.
Tonie, you're grounded.
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Post by freaky on Feb 7, 2007 5:42:05 GMT -5
Thank you Suebee. You get a Brownie Point.
Tonie, you're grounded. Ed, you're grounded too! When Tonie is finished, I'll let you know how much longer you have Ed.
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Post by tonie on Feb 7, 2007 9:47:19 GMT -5
Freak, Quote: Skellenger says it all started with the parasites. "These birds were heavily parasitized," he said. "This was not your normal case — simple case of round worms, or something like this." ((I love that sentence there, "round worms or something like this" it says.)) Then came the drop in temperature. www.kvue.com/news/top/stories/012707ccdrKVUEbirds.27a0562f.html(you missed this latest article? )
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Post by friskers on Feb 8, 2007 2:08:29 GMT -5
I had the parasite from the time it started. I was the first to find them. My dog got it first and died. Then I got it. They told me it was brain cancer that got him. He got hot, then he just sat and stared into space, he got on a water drinking thing. I got onto a crushed ice eating thing. Couldn't get enough of it. Something I never did before. I look at this like, we all became a target for worms to get us? It started in us to begin with. Garth helped me with this. Like the vets, they made their wives sick, their kids sick, their pets sick and they died. Yet it stayed within the confines of the military and went no where else.... Not that am saying we have gulf war sickness.Just logic. I felt these grow and drop inside me from something that started on my shoulder that looked like ring worm. Hence this nightmare started. This gets into every cell and your DNA, it hides, it mimics and unless killed, it comes back over and over. Or later they will tell you that you have cancer, and all the other stuff they have attached to this illness. You never feel well and when you do it's short lived. Because it's still in you somewhere. We have tried everything on this parasite and we know it's going to take alot to kill it. One little tiny one anywhere and it will come back. It was there in the begining. It just keeps spreading through out your body. Just like a cancer does. Lymerick Ice eating is called pica and can be caused by iron defeiciancy anemia. Hookworm may also cause the condition so maybe get your iron levels checked
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Post by freaky on Feb 8, 2007 2:14:04 GMT -5
Tonie, the name is freaky. Maybe you went with that nickname becasue I misspell your name?? Not important. I stand to be corrected on stress, the low immune system, & the cold weather, I think. I think this is probably Ed's fault, cause he knew I was getting all pationate about this birdie stuff, & he was tryig to get me all rilaled up. haha Tonie, you were absolutely right., in what you said, "the birds were first "parasitized" and that's what lowered their immunes, then with the cold weather, they were unable to tolerate any more." It's exactly what Dr. Valadez said speaking on behalf of the 2 vets. I think he misrepresented the vets though by relating to cold weather as a factor rather than going to the trouble of saying the parasite's extreme infestation had damaged the bird's immunity to the point that when the cold weather came in the birds dropped dead. Maybe I'm being too picky, running this in circles, but Skellenger made a point emphasizing the low immunity, as opposed to cold weather. Ed got me frazzled when I said "a low immune system was not mentioned in correlation with the birds." Duh, that was supposed to be my point. Ed, You're funny. So, Tonie, I'm sorry, you were right. Also, I was incorrect in saying "Skellenger had narrowed all the factors to one". I must be nutz. You weren't right about me missing the latest article though, because they were written at the same time, same day, by the same person. Lub, freaky xo
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Post by freaky on Feb 9, 2007 3:14:21 GMT -5
In conclusion, hey Tonie, I love you. That was your only mistake that I know of, & look how embarrassing I was. haha This whole thing was most likely a cover-up. Possibly a little off topic, but it regards parasites, & some might find it amusing how the city officials may have tried to placate the public. Congress Ave, as you know is one of the main attractions in Austin, because it has a bridge where thousands of bats live. They take flight every night at certain times each year &, to watch this spectacular event. I speculate that these birdies, who were definitely on their las leg, when they fell dead to all the masked men in radiation suits, or the like, to come clean up the mess, were hangen out with the bats under the bridge where they live. Seems quite probable these dirty bats were infested also, by multiple parasites. In short, the birds got infected from the bats, known to harbor these beasts, & to let out such a horrifying observation, what would that do to the commerce of our city? People come from other states to see this spectacular event. So shhhhhhh. Don't tell. Austin needs visitor's money. (Just my theory) Really though, shhhhh. I promise, in the future, I will try not to make false statements, and focus on what I am talking about. gee my poor ego Still think Ed, nevermind. freaky
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Post by Orion*** on Feb 9, 2007 3:43:38 GMT -5
But the govt. will blame the wild animal deaths on any thing but parasites....just as they blame our affliction on any thing but.. SAY, you don't supose that the birds died of DOP do you?
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Post by freaky on Feb 9, 2007 4:33:11 GMT -5
I can't be sure of anything anymore. I'm afraid I am going to die from the delusion my brain will not shut down while I write a post. I'm beginning to think delusions, just the word spoken by drs. is a form of bio-chemical warfare, as stupid as that sounds. Is it a delusion that we have so much evidence that we can't overcome the lies the CDC is going to offer as their conclusive evidence? I do wish we had Sherlock Holmes on our side. I can't remember this word, but is it not plausable we can get rid of the sheep liver flukes bu taking prasequel (a drug) Use your imagination, & you'll know what I'm trying to say. My head, & neck are full of flukes, so please don't make fun of me. Bad, bad place for them to be partying.
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