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Post by life on Feb 23, 2007 22:38:36 GMT -5
Hi BeLikeWater~~
That would have been Pyrogenium. It really did help me, but I stopped because you told me to.
As for now, no joint pain, and my lesions are still clearing up.
Urinary tract: QH's smoothie gave me a good start, but once I was on the Cumanda, the healing was revved up quite a bit. I come home now sometimes, and realize I did not need to urinate for a while. No more running to the bathroom to 'make it' in when I have an urge to void.
The only thing I can see that concerns me right now, is the whitening of my nail beds along with vertical ridges appearing.
Hope the Burbur takes care of that soon.
Did I answer your questions?
hope so, life
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Post by life on Feb 23, 2007 22:42:27 GMT -5
Hi ReliefSeeker~~ Don't be too concerned about going off the Cumanda for a couple of days. We're suppose to take a 36 hour rest from it every 12 1/2 days anyway. I did that last weekend, and I did not go 'backwards' at all on any of the healing progress I had made. In fact, the healing continued even while I was off it. In Chinese medicine, you are to take the tea for 6 days with one day off. The body needs a time of rest. In herbals, its the same thing -- or three weeks on and one week of rest. Hope your tests turn something up for you. I wouldn't want to be without the Cumanda either!! Hugs to you, life
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Post by megan on Feb 24, 2007 1:25:48 GMT -5
well heck...I'm going to try cumanda too. If it can even help the incessent crawling and itching I'll be happy....
will post how it goes....
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Post by life on Feb 24, 2007 16:01:10 GMT -5
Hi Megan~~
If you do try the Cumanda, I will be very interested if it helps the incessant crawling and itching. When I started taking it, I had already gotten rid of that part. Lots of sea salt baths, and then finally discovering the New Hope products -- I bought the introductory kit.
In the meantime, try sea salt baths (at least 2 cups per bath), Epsom salt baths, vinegar baths, H2O2 baths, or the Eco Vie.
I've done them all and decided that, for me, the sea salt baths were the most effective, least expensive, and most natural so no harm done with them. I also found that when I had extremely itchie areas in the beginning, spraying 1:1 solution of apple cider vinegar to water helpful, as well as spraying it on my sheets before bed in the early days.
Keep us posted to how the Cumanda works for you and your particular symptoms.
I'm exited!
life
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 25, 2007 9:30:53 GMT -5
Hi All, Life thanks for the information that it is suggested that after being on Cumanda for 12 1/2 days, then take 36 hours off. And I had no idea that taking Vitamin C, along with Artemisinin will render the ART inactive...that was exactly what I was doing.
I continue to do well on Cumanda since I began Jan 12, 2007...I had one set back because these "critters" attacked my skin after using Manuka oil, it's stronger than tea tree oil but it is not a antiparasitic but a stronger antifungal, antiseptic, and antibacterial. The directions said that the problem may look worse but it will get better but we all know these "things" are anything but ordinary.
The Manuka oil cleaned ALL of the biofilm off until I found a gray spot where worms were...my leg turned black right in front of my eyes, then it lightened up but you could see the "form" of wormlike things under my skin and I had some areas that had abrasions...my skin was torn up so I went to the ER for what I don't know....I was sent home with pain meds, the doctor was not allowed to write order for antiparasitics...she suggested this..but she really wanted me and my worm sample out of there.
Oh! I tried Neem Leaf and Oil lotion to protect my skin, and the crawling was so bad that even the xanax could not stop it. It drives them crazy and they in turn drive you crazy. So that is out for me. Take care...
Reliefseeker
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Post by life on Feb 25, 2007 13:34:14 GMT -5
Sunday - 02-25.
Things are still drying up externally, but much more slowly than in the beginning weeks. It seems to work in 'areas' on my body. Like this week, I have had several really small ones come out on my head. They are small and dry and I can easily pick them off.
The bigger carbuncle ones continue to be less. Sometimes, they have a dry layer I can pull off easily with no pain nor resistance on their part, sometimes small, hard, white 'hangnail' types or hardened black specks push up along the edges. I can pull them off -- but it hurts when I do, so they are still trying to hang on.
The little sand particles were coming out of my eyes again this week, and I do believe my eyelashes are being effected in a positive way.
I feel as though it is drying things up internally more so now. Like on my hand, which was really, really bad -- its drying up under the surface of the skin, turning white and brown and grey and hard.
I did have some movement in my inner ears -- mostly the right one -- at night again this week. Last night, I had a mild ringing in both ears before I went to bed, which stopped after about an hour or so. NO movement in my ears last night.
I had added the Burbur this week and still doing QH's smoothie.
I feel an overall 'lighter' feeling in my body today that started yesterday which is why I think the Cumanda is working on them internally more so now.
I'm still exited about what's happening to me. life is good and getting better
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Post by ebgbgms on Feb 25, 2007 16:18:29 GMT -5
Dear Reliefseeker, I just wanted to tell you that I understand how it feels when others do not believe. Also, I want you to know I have almost all the symptoms you do. I do not have any open area's except on my head and my hands right now. But the internal movement like you I say fluke, I believe it is flukes, no doubt in my mind. The neurological symptoms are worse, but I have been dealing with these for many many years. I believe now it is neurolyme not dystonia which is what I was diagnosed with and how I ended up on SS. My outside family, Mother, etc. believe I am just lazy and worthless. Life and all thanks for writing your results, I will be getting mine soon and will be starting it. I just do not know what else I can take besides the cats claw, and no "C". Have to find out. Best of luck to U all and hang in there. Always, ebgb
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Post by gertie on Feb 25, 2007 17:26:12 GMT -5
Reliefseeker, I know of 2 others who share many of your symptoms; secretions etc. Some do not post, but just read information here.
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Post by magnolia on Feb 25, 2007 20:44:22 GMT -5
I have been taking Cumanda for three weeks and it has reduced the swelling in my legs and ankles. My legs no longer feel or look heavy. This is great!!!! Has anyone else had this result? Isn't Cumanda anti-inflamitory, also?
Magnolia
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Post by belikewater on Feb 26, 2007 1:33:25 GMT -5
life, Thank you for your reply. I am taking an over the counter anti-urinary incontinence homeopathic made by Hyland's company. It is helping. My shoulder muscles and joint, esp. on the left is a major symptom, frozen shoulder. I have considered the pyrogenium homeopathic after reading your results with it.
I was having no itching until last week I went to lecture at a private house and I picked up something there as I have been back itching all week, again. I have to use more menthol, I think.
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Post by life on Feb 26, 2007 23:34:19 GMT -5
Hi Megan~~ I think if you take Art with Cumanda, it should be okay. I don't see why not. You might want to consider the New Hope products for the itchies. I find their products to be invaluable. Let us know when you start the Cumanda!!! , life
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Post by life on Feb 26, 2007 23:37:43 GMT -5
Hi Magnolia~~
Wow!!! That 's some great results -- I think you have something similar to RS. Reread her posts here.
She had almost lost her leg to amputation before starting the Cumanda.
So, you're the second person to have almost immediate benefit from swelling when taking Cumanda. I do believe it is anti-inflammatory among other things.
hugs, life
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 26, 2007 23:41:46 GMT -5
Hello All, Gertie and Ebgbgms...I was shocked! So there are others that have the flukes swimiming through them...do they know that I perhaps unintentionally enchanced their growth by taking large doses of Natural Cellular Defense? Why don't they post? Are they using the Cumanda, it really works...but I'm presently off all the supplements for 2 days while I get a specimen. And that scrares me, being off all of them...something secreted on my leg two weeks ago...but the new morg doc was saying maybe eggs and they hatch in stages...will this ever end?
Reliefseeker
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Post by life on Feb 26, 2007 23:45:00 GMT -5
Hi BeLikeWater~~ I would be VERY interested in what results you have from the PYro. I do not remember it effecting my kidneys, but I did not take it very long and only once session. You know, I was thinking about the possibility that Cumanda really did truly help my kidneys/bladder. In the first 3 weeks, my urine had a ever-so-slight greenish tinge to it -- every day. I was thinking that maybe the Cumanda just did that. Funny thing is, since the forth week, the green tinge is gone and has not returned. Instead, my urine goes from days of it being nearly clear to being almost rust colored -- but never greenish anymore. So, I'm thinking it killed something in my kidneys/bladder. I come home some days from work and don't need to void for several hours -- instead of the other scenario I had to just learn to live with. What do you think? I think there is a definite connection, but it will take the anecdotals of others trying it concerning incontinence to see if there is a pattern. hugs to you, life
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Post by life on Feb 26, 2007 23:49:56 GMT -5
Hi ReliefSeeker~~
What is Natural Cellular Defense?
As far as eggs hatching -- I think that is a strong possibility. The $64,000 question is.... when you 'cycle' with the 'hatching' of eggs, is it less and less of them each time? Are the sypmtoms lessoning?
How has your leg been lately? Has the swelling that went down stayed down?
Lots and lots of hopeful hugs to you for your doctor's visit, life
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 27, 2007 0:30:11 GMT -5
Hi Ebgbgms, you mentioned that you did not know what other supplements to take...I use grapefruit seed extract liquid @ 15 drops 3 x a day, Chlorella @15 small pills 3 x a day. And, of course the Cumanda, BurBur, and Samento, olive leaf extract @ 700 mg at least 2 x a day. Super Cayenne capsules 2 @3 x a day. Bromelain Plus, Mushroom Defense, and I use Cell Food that has dissolved oxygen, that are others that I use but I alternate the ones that I don't take every night.
The most important ones for me are Cumanda. Chlorella, grapefruit seed extract, Super Cayenne and Silipho or Burbur, and olive leaf extract. And please see jwf' supplement, he's very thorough and accurate unlike the lady that had me taking the mega doses of the heavy metal remover...worms thrive off of it.
RS
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 27, 2007 1:49:40 GMT -5
Hi Life, Natural Cellular Defense removes toxins and heavy metals, the normal dosage is 2-3 drops 3 x a day but I met a lady on biology online (not a usual guest she was soliciting), she claimed that this product could pull the parasites out of my ankles. And it costs $190.00 for 4 small vials. I had filled a tub full of water and added 32 ounces of peppermint enzyme and 32 ounces of tea tree (tea tree king) oil. I was covered with parasites, they were eating me alive, this had been going on for 5 days...I was going crazy and quite mad...when both items arrived, I took the bath and submerged myself underwater, the chemical burned the critters off my body and right under the skin. I was burning, burned but I lived.
I still had the parasites in my ankles and I had to clean my ankles initially every 5-6 hour for the biting and crawling (was wearing cotton socks), then I had to clean my feet every 3-4 hours. And those black "specks' were no joke.
I was instructed to take 20-30 drop 3x a day...the first week the damn things made 2 "pink" inner thighs, which was thick bio film that covered eggs under my skin that I removed with olive oil and a gloved hand. Then they (the parasites) moved to my left leg. I felt movement in my left foot It was so heavy on Oct 12, 2006, when I went to work...that night all of the parasites in my body attacked me by stinging, biting and crawling all over me and the flukes secreted all over my left leg, and it started swelling. An ID doc gave me a script for the usual dosage for baltricide and a one time dosage of ivermectin. They attacked me again on Oct 17, on Oct 18 I called an ambulance...I could not walk...they had secreted all over me, well past my thigh and the glaze was like cement on my leg and knee....afterwards, the "smart" flukes learned how to make me a "knee" and 7 doctors looked at it at Emory Hospital, it was whitish and rubbery looking. The doctor had insisted that my both my legs be wrapped in cotton like gauze...the parasites thrive in cotton as we all know and they crawled all night on me where there in the hospital. So please be careful of heavy metals and toxin remover and please read excerpt:
Worms are very sophisticated.
There is no lab that can make a correct diagnosis. We have found this out the hard way. Worms are smart. They change their antigen presentation all the time on the surface to confuse the immune system. I don’t know of any other diagnostic tool other than ART to find them and treat them. I went through that myself - . The health benefits are dramatic.
The hard thing in parasite cleansing is the die-off effect. When you kill them, you kill them in the brain, in the heart, wherever they are. They live in the lymphatic system and it plugs you up.
I have heard of people who were given a too aggressive worm treatment too early on, and they developed seizure disorders and one could see a calcified worm in the brain – from the worm that had died off in the brain. There is a way to seduce them to leave and to go for the food in the gut, and then leave., etc. etc. etc.
It’s something that needs a doctor that has some experience in this. Same as with the metal detox. It’s got to be done right.
Take care. P.S. Worms, etc. have an unbelievable affinity to store large amounts of metals in their skin without being metabolically disturbed by it. So when a patient is on a heavy metal detox, the worms immediately take that stuff (mercury, tin and other trace metals) coming down into their coat and they become completely invulnerable to our own immune system, because one thing our white cells cannot handle is large amounts is mercury. Our white cells die when they are trying to gobble up the mercury; and that doesn’t help the organism because when the white cell dies, it releases everything that is stored back into the system; metals are not metabolizable – that means they cannot be transformed into something else as not disturbing; and once they are released again, they are just as toxic as they were before.
When we are in that hypercoaguable state (dark thick sludgey blood), viruses, bacteria, fungi, parasites, worms, etc. get trapped in there.
In treating Lyme Disease and with neurological diseases it is becoming more and more important looking for worms. I have heard it said that there is a tremendous amount of increase in parasites and many of them are worms that are “new” and not recognized!
This is an excerpt from Dr. K's lecture "Lyme Disease: A Look Beyond Antibiotics" (www.neuraltherapy.com/articles):
The Lyme ABC
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 27, 2007 3:41:38 GMT -5
Life, my leg is okay what whatever hatched in my leg puts up biofilm especially when I tried to soak my legs with epsom salt and peroxide on the second night...I can only shower, can't bathe because they use water to make biofilm so rapidly. Gosh, miss Eco-Vie, just ran out, but I have cayenne salve which is antifungal and antibacterial but it burns like the dickens...and these critters did something frightening this morning....they made my genitelia burn, and one time 2 days after using the salve, I feel a strong burn on my legs again, but how? Do the parasites retain the salve? nite all...
RS
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Post by belikewater on Feb 27, 2007 19:18:00 GMT -5
I started Cumanda alone today. Will let you know. I think this is going to be an itchy full moon, will take my homeopathics.
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Post by reliefseeker on Feb 28, 2007 7:03:00 GMT -5
Hi All, this is the second day without using Cumanda and the rest of the supplements, so I can obtain 2 stool specimens. I 've been so close to calling the doctor and saying NO, I can't do this...I need them. Because that is the truth, right away I'm choking on the menthol crystals (when I had not before) and I know that are those damn worms getting their foot in the door. I turned it off, and then I thought about it, and turned it back on. Then I forced myself to inhale it ( held my face right over the diffuser), and wouldn't you just know it, after doing that I was able to "roll" some gmos/worms out of my leg. Seems like an forever supply of worms but something "hatched last week and my morg doctor was discussing that about them returning in stages and/or cycles. The bites are returning but they are singular bites, not group biting and/or continous biting. I went to the health food store and got several bars of Neem, and dead sea salt bars. I noted last week that after bathing with them there is such a relieved feeling and you actually feel "clean" for awhile. And of course, I have my ativan if it gets too bad (when I'm at home). These salves called "Antifungal"but with antiparasitic properties by "Our Father's Healing Herb", contain Olive Leaf, Artemisia Annua, Pau d'Arco, Black Walnut Hulls, Clove, Yellow Dock Root, Aloes, Licorice Root, Oregano, Oregano, Ginger, Olive Oil, Lavender, Tea Tree Oil, Eucalyptus Oil, and Vitamin E Oil. And I already mentioned the ingredients of Cayenne Deep Heat Salve, and I found that it has often been used for patients with Cancer, along with Black Salve. Strange thing about these genectically altered worms, they can absorb this cayenne and release it... 2 days later, and one time I wakened to my vaginal area burning, bit it soon stopped ...just weird. And my leg has started burning after 2 days of using it. The reason that I'm discussing these salves is, because while we can find the most wondrous inner supplements, it is hard to find something that protects the skin when these things flee the bood steam and live on the skin... because the suppplements are "Whooping their little butts, and Cayenne definitely stops the itching....lol Please pm me if you would like more information on my morgie doctor. This doctor is also an out of network physician, so HMO's would not approve BUT you can get a free consultation and/or put on a payment plan. If you are pretty close and decide to come, please insist on your lyme test being done by Igenex. Because dependent on my results, then I too will do it again. Both herbals salves were bought in a health food and they are $3.99 or online @ $4.99 : www.healingherbs.bizMore information on herbals and healing: www.planetherbs.com/articles/cancer.html www.create.org/elchai/htalk4.htm
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