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Post by sammy on Mar 18, 2007 0:32:09 GMT -5
You are always a great help John and have a very kind nature in your post. But I know this germ. I know what it takes. This mother worm has a very GOOD defense. Like that stuff that goes to your lungs and that thick mucous. Most of the herbs, it takes to high of a dose to kill them. Almost a lethal dose. Read any herb book. I have like 5 or 6 around here. Natural healing and you name it. Didn't do anything to them. Only the trash it puts out is what we can get down. Garth Nicolson is my best friend. So I know what am doing. Got 3 or four prof. & scientist,who have been shown all we have put out. The doctors are even scared of this stuff. We weren't into the have this for years thing,or co-infections or it making us worse because we have had it to long. When you get tired of it, you do what it takes to kill it fast. It's to deadly to keep in your body. We never had brain fog or anything. I didn't want this in my brain thats for sure. Or eating my bones and spine, knee caps ect..Have a great day. Your always a great help to everyone. But what it takes to kill this,,, let's just say ALOT>>>>. Then all the other stuff stops.
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Post by browncircles on Mar 18, 2007 0:49:44 GMT -5
What about those of us that are allergic to penicillin and amoxicillin? Are there alternative antibiotics?
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Post by belikewater on Mar 18, 2007 1:44:57 GMT -5
lymernick, if you know so much, what is the identity of the Morgellons entity? Why do you call it a 'worm'? Why are you trying to throw your weight around and revealing nothing? The drugs you recommend do not kill worms. I think this is Lyme Bb a bacteria. What do your 4 brilliant scientists say?
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Post by life on Mar 18, 2007 1:47:52 GMT -5
Hi LymerNick~~
I just read all your posts. Very interesting.
What I don't understand, though, is why not start a thread of your own? I mean, you say you know exactly what to do.
Please share.
And if your too busy -- that's understandable with all you do and are responsible for -- just write it out and let others read.
Also, its nice to hear your friends with the Nicolsons. My doc is very close with them as well. Did you know them when the 'IRS' came into their office with machine guns and confiscated everything they had because he was healing people of GWS?
Just curious.
Do consider starting your own thread. I can't do meds -- my liver and kidneys just can't handle them when I have tried, so thank you for telling us we're wrong about bothering with Herbs if you feel the need to warn us -- your points are well taken -- but, that is what this thread is about. Herbs.
Nothing will change that.
I hope you understand and I look forward to reading about your knowledge, experience and guidance on your own thread.
Sincerely, life
Oh, and I'll have my doc call Garth, if you're best friends then I'm certain you've told him what has worked for you and your wife, and I can find out from him what it is your taking if you don't have time to manage a thread.
And thank you for all you do for our country, life
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Post by sammy on Mar 18, 2007 3:00:19 GMT -5
Am taking what I said in the earlier post. I use what ever gets the kill going. Garth doesn't treat this, but will suggest help ,as on his web page. His work is on children and mycoplasma illness relating to learning problems now.
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Post by sammy on Mar 18, 2007 3:08:58 GMT -5
I did suggest herbs, by re-building your lipids. It's a good thing to do with this illness. I don't have time for a thread most times. Am doing many things at once. Yes, I knew of things that happen to the prof. early on. Yes, I recieved his book before it was even published & many other things. Many have talked on many things on threads. So if meds and herbs were talked about, I guess it fits then. I talked about a combo of both I do believe.
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Post by sammy on Mar 18, 2007 3:23:31 GMT -5
What I discuss with the scientist I can't talk about here. Like Carrie said Wymore told her stuff, but she can't say. Am not throwing my weight around. Not that kind of person. Please. I like that one person prevenge. I've seen him jump all over some before and say what's on his or her mind. So I think I've done nothing at all. thankyou. Why do I call it worms? ASK Carrie. Besides you don't own me and can't tell me what to do. Or what I can say or not say about my illness. Just like everyone else here does. Plus, belikewater you got chewed by another telling her also how to post. I have just as much right as everyone else here.Carrie found worms & so did I. My doctor saw it. I can call it anything I want to call it. You cannot tell me what I can or can't say.
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Post by life on Mar 18, 2007 7:23:19 GMT -5
Note:
I respectively request that posts on this thread be limited to Cumanda/Samento/Burbur use. Off-topic discussion discourages members from following the reports and makes it insanely difficult for newbies to benefit from the critical information.
This thread welcomes comments/observations of drugs used, and other questions, comments, observations as they relate to this Cumanda/Samento/Burbur/Quina adventure in healing. Of course.
However, this thread is intended to be anecdotal in nature -- we want it to be a SAFE place -- so off-topic really means, no put-downs and no bullying.
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Post by CA GA Peach on Mar 18, 2007 21:51:21 GMT -5
32 days - Cumanda and Samento at 25 drops each 2 times a day; Burbur at 12 drops 4 times a day.
I'm amazed as I sit here and look at my hands and arms. The dark brown things are really drying and disappearing. Some of them do not turn darker, but get kinda crusty and can be scraped off. In fact, as I look more closely there are now very large areas on my arms that are especially rough, raised and crusty. It may be time to pull out the fine sandpaper again! Or, I’ll stick to my rough little nylon wash cloth in the shower. Either way, I find this stuff needs a little help to totally exfoliate. There are still very thick layers of the bio-film that cover my eyebrows (or where my eyebrows are supposed to be). There are very few normal hairs but I still think there are fewer black tubes/hairs growing there.
My upper lip and chin are a whole lot better with definitely fewer black tubes/hairs. Those that do appear seem to be more easily tweezed out.
My skin has regained some of the oiliness that's been gone for a very long time, years.
Still enjoying not having to stop by the potty so often at night and during the day, however . . . and this is a big HOWEVER, the heart palpitations are worse and more frequent. And, I'm not sleeping well again. I wonder if it's the palpitations that's keeping me from sleeping? I wonder if I should back down on the dosage?
So, I had to add Hawthorn to the protocol today to try to slow down the old ticker. I was hoping to limit the protocol to as few products as possible so that I know what’s working and what’s not. The salt/c is still my staple.
Bottom line is that Cumanda and Samento work for me!! Oh, and there’s not much taste to any of these 3.
If y’all decide to try it, please come here and report. As a reminder, I saw the effects of just the Cumanda in only 3 days!
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Post by maf on Mar 19, 2007 0:15:58 GMT -5
i just started the cumanda 2 days ago... will post any results as i know more....
lymernick... the worm as you call it... can become very large... i don't think many realize just how horrific this thing is/can be inside the body... i have seen it, or one of it anyway... and i do believe there is a mothership/motherworm if you will...
wide surgical excision and electro-cauterization would be great... maybe... but at the current technology/current level of de-classification... it isn't going to happen... unless you or a friend are pretty good with knives and a soldering iron... your friendly neighborhood surgeon can't/won't help you...
maf
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Post by life on Mar 19, 2007 1:13:46 GMT -5
Hi Maf~~ wide surgical excision and electro-cauterization would be great... maybe... but at the current technology/current level of de-classification... it isn't going to happen... unless you or a friend are pretty good with knives and a soldering iron... your friendly neighborhood surgeon can't/won't help you... You are too funny! I'm looking forward to your posts. Since we are all 'same, same, but different', it will be interesting to hear about what you observe. For instance, I don't seem to have the biofilm Peach does. So, I can't report on that one aspect. I hope this works as well for you as it is for me. life
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Post by life on Mar 19, 2007 20:38:03 GMT -5
Hi CA GA Peach~~
This is my 10th week -- I decided to give my body a break, so I'm just doing the Burbur. I'm going to take a week off.
A lot of my dark areas have lightened too, and some have even disappeared completely.
The ones that were really big carbuncles have dried up quite a bit for me too. Some of the smaller ones are gone, but like you, the bigger ones have dried up and gotten hard and crusty.
Around the 3rd or 4th week, I also had dry patches show up randomly on my skin, but they come off easily too.
So, we're seeing a bit of a pattern here it seems to me.
I agree with you that they need help getting out/off our skin once the Cumanda/Samento has dried them up. I just got my new order of the New Hope products, so that should help them out a bit.
My skin is oilier too. Its not from the Cumanda, its from the Samento as that didn't happen until I started using the Samento, about a week after I started taking it.
As far as helping them come out/off the skin -- I've been looking at Hyssop. Among other properties, its suppose to assist the skin in purging foreign matter, toxins, and such.
Do you know anything about Hyssop?
Good idea about the Hawthorn. I've been taking Hawthorn for about a month now, as I thought it might help because it thins the blood a bit and is suppose to strengthen the heart muscles. I know physicians in England have been using it for about 20 years now.
Hugs, life
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Post by jbb on Mar 19, 2007 21:55:13 GMT -5
Hi everyone, Three days ago I started the cumanda & samento. Like maf, I too will keep you posted. For the approx. 12 yrs I think I have had this, fatigue has been a major problem. It's hard to say for sure if it was the cumanda, which I started first, but I have slept through most of the last three days. The good news is, I don't feel bad. Sore from laying in bed and depressed from being in bed, but physically I'm not too bad.
John, I love your blue skies. Please know how helpful your posts have been to me. Your positive, caring attitude comes through in your writing. I don't usually put in my two cents worth (cause it's usually not worth two cents) but I got to say; My Dad had a high security rating. He partied with the skunk works team while developing the SR71. If one has a high enough security rating they know what that team is. BUT, so far in my experience John, you have been more helpful then anyone I know even without having a "security rating" or medical degree.
Love Judy
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Post by jwf on Mar 20, 2007 1:06:27 GMT -5
Thank you. Thank you. I'm a sponge for love.
I've been on Cumanda for a week now and the new *Allimax product developed by a British research team, for two weeks.
* www.natureswonders.com/
No changes yet, but maybe a slight high from the garlic like you get when you drink wheat grass juice, or something that quickly oxygenates your blood.
It's good to hear you folks are improving, even though some- times it's two steps forward and then one step back.
Again, if any of you shift from Samento to the whole Cat's Claw from RainTree, please let us know how that affects you. Thanks.
Blue Skies...........John
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Post by megan on Mar 20, 2007 18:17:07 GMT -5
Hi all....just started on cumanda too. Will post how it goes. I'm working up to 20 drops/2x day. I'm at 5 drops right now. Nothing to report yet...but dose is still pretty low.
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Post by socalsandy on Mar 21, 2007 11:54:06 GMT -5
Hello, I appreciate the post but think it is selfish not to let others who have the same results exactly without these products, as we take lots of things that help too !!
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Post by erika on Mar 21, 2007 12:17:10 GMT -5
you are free to start your own thread
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Post by socalsandy on Mar 21, 2007 14:43:01 GMT -5
Thanks John, When I do just the herbs and don't falter I am almost 100% better. My husband and I are doing all of your tips and after 11+ years for me and 4 for him we are finally better. My skin is geting better too. But what I really want to say is if a newbe saw these posts he or she might not try other things, that I know we use and it would sadden me. Our little dog is better and he takes the herbs too. We tried him on antibiotics , but it came back for him as well as us. We really wish everyone well and one more thing, we hardly see slough or fibers every where anymore, which I belive to be the biofilm that exuds from our pores. Dry like glass and painful. The silver cleared my mouth this week and upper digestive tract, just thought I would mention it, as I had forgotten to take it and my swallowing problem was getting bad again. I am anxious to try the cumanda , but if you could let us know in a post or new thread, if it interacts with the other herbs we all take. Thanks so much Sandra
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Post by jwf on Mar 21, 2007 22:01:46 GMT -5
Our two dogs take Olive Leaf Extract and one even opens his mouth to slurp the liquid from a dropper because he knows it's good for him-- because it sure doesn't taste good.
There are no known contraindications, no known side effects and no known interactions with other drugs when using Cumanda.
Dr. Cowden suggests alternating Cumanda and Samento, probably because both are strong herbs that have similar activity.
'Herxing' is good, but not too much too fast.
Blue Skies............John
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Post by maf on Mar 22, 2007 2:05:44 GMT -5
hello all...
i am on day 5 of the cumanda... 5 drops 2x day...
still have ringing in my left ear, but diminished 20-30%... right ear seems ok...
tmj symptoms down about 50-60%... it was getting pretty painful on my left side... have not had any symptoms on the right...
sinuses are very clear... could be a change in the weather, but i think it is the cumanda because for 3 days, i havn't had the wormy looking nose goblins at all... just clear, normal, mucose from what i can tell...
urine has been yellow or light yellow for the last 2 days... not light green, greenish white, or greenish yellow... i havn't checked for clarity so i need to do that...
i was getting up 5-7 times per night to go... the urge was always strong, yet didn't really go alot... the last 3 nights, i have only had to get up a couple of times, and i really did have to go...
my night sweats are down at least 50-60%...
no new lesions... but the first day (actually within the first 30 minutes of taking the first 2 drop dose) was a little bit itchy and tingly on a couple of old lesion scars... and i felt movement in a couple of current lesions... not pain, just movement...
currently, my lesions look better and feel like they are getting looser, maybe breaking up... but i do not expect them to heal immediately... even if the organism were 100% dead right now, my body would still need time to debride and heal...
i feel better overall... less brainfog and not as moody... more energy too... i have also been taking a multi-vitamin with minerals, 1000mg of vit c, and 325mg of iron all together at suppertime... previous labs showed low hemaglobin counts, and my last doctor prescribed the iron...
i have also been taking 50mg ultram 2-3 times a day as needed for pain for about 3 months because two of my lesions have been extemely painful... i was prescribed this because i had been taking way too much advil which my doctor said caused two stomach ulcers... i saw the scoped images and i could definately see the ulcers... however, i truly believe they were morgellons lesions... to me, the pathology looked exactly the same... to continue, the last two days i havn't really felt bloated or urpy after eating, and i have not had my normal acid reflux and indigestion problems, or shooting pains into my left jaw and ear area after eating... my stomach also feels much more relaxed and normal...
i was planning to step up to 10 drops 2x day over the weekend...
when i get to 20 drops 2x day, how long do i stay on the cumanda at that rate before i switch to the samento...
or, can i take the samento with the cumanda and if so, when can/should i start the samento?...
any suggestions would be appreciated...
thanks, maf
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