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Post by toni on Mar 25, 2007 16:42:41 GMT -5
I'm glad, yet not. I believe I found the "worm", the larvae! Remember about 6 or so months ago I said I didn't have a clue in the world how those 4 "caterpillar" looking worms got in the middle of my carpet...because they'd of had to travel too far to get where I found them? And they were writhing in the carpet where I sit in on the sofa...and I was afraid they "hatched" from me? Then I found another in the kitchen on the floor? And I said they had a lobster color strips on their backs and was cream color with tiny black faces? Well...in looking at the pics on a link of the larvae hatching (right here) click this on, this IS the larvae: www.morgellonsusa.com/Pg13.html((( please scroll a tad down to look for where it says on the RIGHT side, These "next three videos" )) Then click on Video 1 Then click on this - A Live Worm in the "Morgellons Cocoon" Hydrogen Peroxide - which is on the right side too and there it is. That is it. The larvae coming out of the cocoon. Now...here's the **PINK BOLLWORM** it's called, and THIS one is a match for my caterpillars I found in my house on the floor! www.invasive.org/images/768x512/1321029.jpg www.ars.usda.gov/is/AR/archive/nov02/pink1102.htmNotice the two little squares just behind it's head? See that? That is on the larvae and the adults. And here's the best part, this is what INFESTS cotton, and what Monsanto "tweaks" the cotton seeds for to kill these off. And here we are "maybe" growing genetically modified cotton (our cocoons) our (fibers) that maybe is why these suckers are exiting our skin too!
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Post by bannanny on Mar 25, 2007 18:21:45 GMT -5
OMG! That's one nasty lookin worm in the hydrogen peroxide video. I'm letting it load all the way right now and I'll go back to it when it's ready (dial-up). That's a pretty interesting theory toni. It makes sense that we could be growing GM cotton....... or growing whatever it is Monsanto used in their modifications!
I don't like that worm....... yuck! Are you saying it's the same worm as the ones you found in your carpet and on your kitchen floor? I hope those things aren't what's writhing around under my scalp!!!! I'm gonna go back and watch some more. By the way, I noticed a pic of some guy when I scrolled down a little....... do you know who it is? He's a cutie pie!
love ~~ bannanny
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Post by toni on Mar 25, 2007 18:53:05 GMT -5
Hi Bannanny,
Look at the larvae head too, the one with the peroxide on that link okay?
See the two brown square things behind his head...
Then when you click on the "adult" Pink Bollworm, see that? They're the same guy!
And yes, I can't even begin to say how many "caterpillars/worms" I looked though all over the internet forever trying to "match" it...and then because of QuestionHair and that article she posted about Kirk Azevedo quitting Monsanto because of their "dirty work"....I started looking into this more. And then I thought...hummm what eats the cotton that Monsanto is trying to rid by genetically tweaking the seed genes with so as to not use a pesticide (because that's too expensive) and they insert "bacillus" into the cells of the cotton seed cells so that can grow a "built-in" pesticide to ward off these little Pink Bollworms...and they're tied into this mess, as we are, I believe.
They're hatching cycle also seems to jive with new lesions too...they go from the larva stage to the pupa stage which is quite a difference in their looks...as they look like a shell on the beach to me...the ones that are cone shaped with a twist.
And Coz, "hi Coz, her pics and Ramone's sort of look like that "shell" too...I'll post the pic I found of the "pupa stage" of these Bollworms, then you can see what I mean.
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Post by toni on Mar 25, 2007 18:56:25 GMT -5
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Post by prevenge on Mar 25, 2007 19:00:15 GMT -5
remember that special on the cotton industy on the history channel we talked about?
turns out the excess "husk" of the seed thats not wasted in by the guys who bail up the cotton to sell.. sell the husk to food companies to be used in food.
its cotton seed oil in lots and lots of foods.
-M
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Post by toni on Mar 25, 2007 19:25:14 GMT -5
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Post by bannanny on Mar 26, 2007 1:46:11 GMT -5
It says the eggs of the bollworm are white and will turn orange and you need magnification to see them, so.............. they could be the same tiny white "pods" that get dispersed thru the ends of the fibers (the fibers being B. subtilis??). I used to find alot of light orange crystalized pods too and still do, but not as many as I did at the onset of morgs. I've always figured the white pods were some kind of egg tho. Could very well be eggs of the bollworm wrapped inside our fibers??? Toni, where did you read about Monsanto inserting bacillis into their cotton seed cells? I'd love to read it so if you can remember, would you let me know please? I thought I'd stick these articles in here for you to read about the cotton problem....... the first one is from Indonesia and the wording is a bit off, but skin itchies are mentioned. The second article also mentions skin eruptions the cotton pickers came down with................... www.mindfully.org/GE/GE3/Burnt-Bollgard-Cotton.htmwww.scoop.co.nz/stories/SC0605/S00022.htmThis one mentions a years worth of cotton harvesting where the seeds came from the black market becuz the modified cotton seeds were illegal to plant in Brazil....... looks to me like it's a bad idea to plant any of this kinda sh*t anymore! www.grain.org/research/btcotton.cfm?id=340
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Post by toni on Mar 26, 2007 7:57:29 GMT -5
Bannanny,
Thank you for those links. I know...this stuff/cotton is really bad news, there's so many articles on the "workers" committing suicide too, but I'll find those other links too for you.
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Post by toni on Mar 26, 2007 9:25:18 GMT -5
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Post by belikewater on Mar 26, 2007 11:35:15 GMT -5
toni, Thank you for this info. Crazy as it sounds, I am sure one aspect of this thing, for me, was getting infected by those cotton socks from the Dollar Tree store. It is complicated, but you are tracking it down, thanks.
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Post by toni on Mar 26, 2007 11:44:06 GMT -5
Belikewater, Thanks, and I know...as WILD as this sounds, I think only if we flew now like birds...that's the only thing that would surprise me at this point, hahaha Look at this, the "bollworms" have acquired a "taste" really an immunity now to the spliced bacillus into the cotton cells, and the bollworms are surviving! This was published last month. www.healthy.net/scr/news.asp?Id=8991(there's lots more in the article, I didn't post all of it here, but it's in the link) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bollworms Destroying Supposedly Insect-Resistant Genetically Engineered Cotton in the Fields Published on Saturday, February 24, 2007 by Healthy News Service The Bollworm Returns Is Bt-based resistance collapsing? By Suman Sahai India Together, Feb 24, 2007 Straight to the Source Studies from China and the US show the limitations of Bt-based resistance. The bollworm evolves to resist the toxin eventually, and a number of secondary pests remain unaffected. Suman Sahai argues that this is not really a workable strategy except in the first few years. 24 February 2007 - A recent study from China, reported at the American Agricultural Economics Association's annual meeting in July 2006, indicates that the Bt cotton crop there is failing, and farmers are incurring losses rather than making profits from its cultivation. The study, conducted by Cornell University, found that Bt cotton farmers cut pesticide use significantly for the first three years of cultivation. After that, however, they had to spray just as much as conventional farmers, and ended up with a net average income of 8 percent less than conventional cotton farmers, partly because the cost of Bt seed is triple that of conventional seed. Also, after seven years of Bt cotton, populations of other insects - such as mirids - have increased so much that farmers now have to spray their crops up to 20 times in a growing season. The Cornell researchers anticipate that the emergence of secondary pests is likely to become a major threat in countries where Bt cotton has been widely planted.
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Post by toni on Mar 26, 2007 11:57:30 GMT -5
Something else too...just trying to go at this the only way I can think of...cause I sure don't know. But, what I do know, is of all the meds I've taken...they only put a lid on this all while I was taking them. Cause I'm NOW looking like a measled mess! I swear, I've got a ZILLION brand new lesions, and where I never had them before...like on my lower back, and calves...never had them there before. What that tells me...well...is a few things. Meds aren't working. Now I won't say that I'm not glad I took them, cause I am, if I had any "normal" bacteria or fungal infections, or "normal" parasites they should be dead, but because of all the new itching lesions...and I stopped my meds on Mar 18th JUST to see what would happen, well...now I know, but, "if" and this is really a GIANT "IF" - but just for 'ha ha's", what "if" we have the cellulose growing in us, like such as cellulose from cotton? I know that's "out there"...but so is this. And from all meds known to man, that these lesions persist, and nothing is stopping it, say we've got or ingested from our food products (which is very real), some cotton DNA as that article above about "are we eating cotton", and some bollworm DNA from their bodies being mixed into the batches of our foods, and Bacillus that is implemented into our food supply, and that's what's really growing in us? So...with that wild train of thought, I thought okay...how does one break down cellulose? Well, ( cellulase ) is something that penetrates cell walls of plants, or cellulose. Where can we get cellulase? Many places, they're enzyme degraders....such as this: Enzymedica, Digest Plant Based Enzymes, 180 Capsules www.iherb.com/store/productdetails.aspx?c=Herbs&pid=ENZ-98110I sure don't know, but I'm going to at least try it, since the dynamite meds aren't working.
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Post by toni on Mar 26, 2007 14:09:19 GMT -5
Well...just had some mind blowing pictures sent to me from Jose and Kathy!
I can't believe it, they sure look exactly like the Bollworm in the links here above.
Can someone post 2 pics here if I email them to you, as they're in my email? I don't know how to do that...and Ant did it last time for me...thank you Ant, hahaha
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Post by belikewater on Mar 26, 2007 16:20:02 GMT -5
Hi, toni, Once again I need to play a little 'devil's advocate': 1.) In 99% of pictures/videos posted there is NEVER an indication of size or magnification. PLEASE people etc. put this in for comparison sake. For instance, because of my own experience on the small scope, I think the MorgUSA vids are 100-150x magnification. Remember, the cocoons are only pore sized ovals.
So, toni, for you to notice these 'worms' which are smaller than the cocoons, you would have had to be nose to the floor I'm thinking. Please remind me of the size of what you observed in your home.
2.) I do not think our fibers are cotton. Remember, the fibers were compaired to over 10,000 fibers in the FBI database. I think cotton cellulose would have come up. I am still going with the fibers are bacterially produced.
OK that's it. Thanks for all you do.
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Post by belikewater on Mar 26, 2007 16:24:00 GMT -5
Oh, a question:
Does "Bt" mean a toxin gene from Bacillus thuringensis bacteria? Thanks.
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Post by toni on Mar 26, 2007 17:41:23 GMT -5
I certainly welcome all your questions, they definately are needed - that helps eliminate my questions or things I might not be thinking about too. More heads are always better than one.
The larvae is "tiny"...probably alot less than a millimeter. And the Bollworm grown adults are 1/2" in length. Which the adults are what I saw wriggling around in the carpet.
I cannot wait to show you the "photos" that I was sent this morn after I sent these links to Jose and Kathy. It is the "bollworm" more developed than the larvae, but not quite an adult, and it's "back stripes" are just forming. So those links above, please look at it's head, see the "little saddle" just behind it's head? I'm calling it a saddle, it's like two squares like. That is indicative to this 'species', the Bollworm. The larvae in that video link above has it, the grown adult bollworm has it, and so does Kathy and Jose's pictures dated from 10-06 that was sent to me today. As soon as I'm able to get help with posting it, I will get it on here.
Also I don't know "exactly" what the FBI tested, but it was my impression it was the blue fiber that was tested, which I've not read enough to know if that is or not "part" of what "Agrobacterium and Bacillus and all these things can produce...still lots to learn.
I understand from some articles, about that Kirk Azevedo, that was the biochemist for Monsanto, the one that quit his job there...well...he stated that there were other "proteins" that were "not" identified when this "Monsanto mix" for the insertion of the cotton cells were done.
He said the protein cells were "folding" now I don't know for sure what that term means...but, it "sounded" like something wasn't quite right, and "they" went ahead anyways with what they were doing, and TOTALLY disregarded the rest of the "cells" involved...so 'who knows'...may be what the blue is, but I don't know.
I do know that I got very inspired by Kirk's article, his loyalty to what was right by humanity, other than the big bucks he could have made working at Monsanto....and it seems alot of what Monsanto did was not thoroughly tested prior to using it commercially for consumers.
And yes..(Bacillus thuringensis) is Bt.
And thank you too Belikewater, for everything always.
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Post by browncircles on Mar 26, 2007 19:56:14 GMT -5
toni,
Sometimes new bumps/lesions are coming out and it is not a bad thing. I thought my calf was healed but when I started different meds (can't remember what) I had some breakout there again. I think the last holdouts were surfacing and now it's fine (I think).
I have heard other people say they had good results with the digestive enzymes. Someone even said they used them in the laundry. Haven't tried that.
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Post by junebook on Mar 26, 2007 20:03:27 GMT -5
And here's the best part, this is what INFESTS cotton, and what Monsanto "tweaks" the cotton seeds for to kill these off. Toni
================================================================= What do you mean by that, Toni? Never heard that before. June
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Post by junebook on Mar 26, 2007 20:13:00 GMT -5
I've occassionally seen these worms on me, Toni, but they were tiny little things. I realize these pics are enlarged, but they still look as if they're good size--specially if you see them on the carpet. How long are they normally, 1/2" or less?
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Post by junebook on Mar 26, 2007 20:52:30 GMT -5
Crazy as it sounds, I am sure one aspect of this thing, for me, was getting infected by those cotton socks from the Dollar Tree store. Belikewater ==================================================================
My first outbreak came days after I'd remove an old, damaged robin's nest from on top of the electric metere. Didn't last long. Another outbreak, a gruesome painful one, when I bought a bag of Made in China socks in Wal*Mart. I always wash every piece of brand new clothing before wearing, but Christmas 2003, I threw caution to the wind, tossed eleven new pair of low cut socks into the washer, and wore the twelfth pair. I broke out the next day, feet, ankles, legs, thighs. It's grown worse ever since. Cotton balls and Q-tips scare me. It doesn't take a genius to see what's in them when you start separating the strands. Ugh. I still can't find 100% polyester socks and Xtra Lge Men's T-shirts (for sleeping in.) Found something close in expensive sports T-shirts in Target.
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