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Post by slinker on May 27, 2007 11:32:07 GMT -5
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Post by Niels on May 30, 2007 13:03:45 GMT -5
and notice that all the pictures of "morg" stuff are at under 100x magnification. This stuff is on the order of "micrometers".... nanotech, by definition is sized on the order of nanometers. (and when i say "order of" i'm using mathematical terminology). So what the heck does this have to do with nanotech...
also... does the white trail of "steam" coming out of our car exhast pipes on a cold day count as chemtrails?
because that's half of what those pictures show -- water vapor from combustion of jet fuel's Hydrogen combined with Oxygen from the atmospehere during the oxidation process that produces the energy to fly the plane. combined with low pressure and extremelyt cold temperatures of the upper atmosphere...produces the same "steam" trail behind a jet engine that is seen behind the exhaust pipe of a car on a cold day.
finally, all you need is the right level of atmospheric humidity and an airfoil (aka airplane wing) flying at the right speed... and you can induce a phase change in the atmospheric humidity that causes the atmospheric vapor to be visible.
you certainly see a vortex of vapor coming off most planes wingtips as they land.... this isn't chemtrails... this is the fact that on certain parts of the wing, due to the principle of an airfoil going through gas... produces a vacuum which induces a phase change in the atmospheric humidity, causing the humidity to become visible.
same thing happens when you stick up a "flap" on an airplane wing to slow it down. there's a "vacuum" formed behind the flap, and in humid weather condiutions (esp visible during landing at coastal airports where there's a lot of marine humidity) you'll see a white trail of water vapor form.
depending on the atmospheric conditions... the water vapor from the engine can "hang" in the air for a long time because the water vapor freezes and persissts in the atmospehre.
this chemtrail stuff is total bullshit. it's so ridiculous to hear Dr. Stanninger at the end of the video, talk about a "red fiber" as proof of anything. why? because it's red? ooh that's a smoking gun if i've every seen one. my penis is pretty much the same color as george bush's skin... does that mean my penis is george bush?
also there is one picture of a jet emitting trails from below the wing.. this certainly is not explainable by the "airfoil vacuum" mentioned above, or the "engine stream"... however, it'd be interesting to note the locations of the "fuel dumps" on that particular brand of plane... if a plane needs to do an emergency landing just after takeoff, it is usually too heavy to land safely because of the weight of the fuel. so most planes equipped for transatlantic fligths also have a way to dump their fuel (which is stored in the wings for the most part) ... i wouldn't be suprised if the photo of that jet isn't simply someone snaping a photo of a jet prior to an emergency landing that is dumping it's fuel from ports under the wing.... but of course off in chemtrail conspiracy land... they won't tell you the real facts underlying the picture... they're just wanting to string together a bunch of loosely associated images in the hopes that your mind will fill in the blanks... and get you to believe their theory.
i don't believe the theory. this is especially bolstered by the fact that when you go to these chemtrailing sites, they're quickly off into czarist russian propagandafrom 1903 regarding "protocols of the elders of zion" ... which is the age old racism against the jews... just google for "chemtrails" "zionist conspiracy" to get an idea of where these a-holes are coming from.
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Post by prevenge on May 30, 2007 14:11:08 GMT -5
the Nielsy doth protest too much.
-M
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Post by bugsy on May 30, 2007 14:19:26 GMT -5
So are you saying that George Bush is a d * ck?
~Bugsy
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Post by Patti on May 30, 2007 15:32:26 GMT -5
So are you saying that George Bush is a d * ck? ~Bugsy Lol, Bugsy! Niels, thank you so much for your info regarding the contrail/chemtrail situation. Some of it I remembered from past research and I think it's good for us to explore logical explanations as well as theories. It's often difficult for me to read, assimilate, and retain certain subjects discussed on this forum but we need to be as prepared as possible. I'm not making any conclusions here, just using common sense. Anyone who knows me, knows that I always initially look for a logical reason for anything that happens.....it saves so much time in the long run and can also save us from other embarrassing situations. Since the Morgellons issue is already quite sensitive and has forced many labels onto us, I think that exploring logic first is the only way for us to gain the respect we deserve. Once all logical avenues have been found to still not be analogous with what we're experiencing, we'll at least look better "as a group" in the eyes of those who might be in a position to help us.
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Post by nadie on May 31, 2007 11:53:21 GMT -5
There seems to be a cloud or should I say a gloud ( govt. formed clouds) screwing up your thinking .
Chem trails and contrails are two different things.
Nadie
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Post by Patti on May 31, 2007 12:08:12 GMT -5
I'm sorry Nadie, I often don't explain things too well. I think we all understand the difference, it's just that sometimes the two are confused with each other. We have had such a difficult struggle already and it's only beginning.....I just want to make sure we have explored all avenues so nothing can be thrown back at us later as evidence of our perceived mental "instability".
These are just my opinions, I don't expect anyone to believe like I do.
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Post by nadie on May 31, 2007 12:32:18 GMT -5
I knew what you meant Patti. It was clear to me and I respect your opinions.
There seems to be many factors to this Morgellons disease, way more then I could ever know. I am open to all views and also appreciative to all that is trying to help us.
Nadie
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Post by Patti on May 31, 2007 13:20:27 GMT -5
Not a problem at all, Nadie, but thanks so much for responding.....it's very generous of you. Sometimes I don't seem to always say what I'm thinking and even if it looks good to me at the time, I'll later see that I've not expressed myself correctly so you never know what you're getting with my posts. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not always "with it" and coherent. Hugs! Patti
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Post by janedough on May 31, 2007 13:42:26 GMT -5
I don't think the link is working.
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