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Post by SpecueLatin on Aug 1, 2005 3:02:28 GMT -5
Okay, here we go... Proud Flesh is not going to feel like it is a part of skin because it does not have any feeling, but it does bleed profusely when it is removed or trimmed. It bulges out of a wound and stops the ordinary skin from getting across the top of wound and healing properly. I will bet this is the C_R_A_P that we are calling "psuedoskin'' Proud Flesh can be caused, on a horse, because they move too much, or it can be caused by an infection. Guess what kind?, [remember this is Spec talking]. Yes! You guessed it right, it is a parasite, that lays eggs in the wound and is sometimes called the "SUMMER SORE" organism: (excerpt) In most cases, licking indicates the presence of the "summer sore" organism, Cutaneous Habronemiasis. Flies deposit these worm larvae in wounds on the head and lower extremities. They prevent healing, causing the wound to become round in shape and bulge slightly above the surrounding skin. Read the article here: www.equisearch.com/care/eq_consultants/eqanswer325/This is our critter. It now likes to get into human skin and infect us. I just know, okay? Let's keep it a secret, and see how many years it takes for the medical community to figure it out. spec ps> here is one more link that tells a little more. www.equisearch.com/care/treatment/eqhumble530/
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Post by SpecueLatin on Aug 1, 2005 5:28:55 GMT -5
Here is a few additional tidbits that are similar: The lesion expels calcified yellow stuff, about the size of a rice grain. The "proud flesh", once removed can reform rapidly. Also can reoccur. ::)I don't know if it has little clear digging fibers attached to it, or are those larva maturing in the skin? and what about EH's blood lint? The worm is about the right size, 10mm to 25mm, it is whitish and has spines on its tail. It will remain in the lesion as a larvae instead of maturing. It will expand the lesion, it can migrate. The larva will get out of the newly born fly, and will migrate to a moist area (eye, genitilia) or wound and burrow in. "White Hair" grows out where normal hair use to be. Fiberous material forms in the lesion. Hard nodules form over the wound, needing to be cauterized or cut away in order to be treated and then heal. Ivermectin is "effective", [implication is with other measures]. It can get in the eye, there is a special name, it can cause photophobia (sensitivity to light). Can cause a wart-like growth near the eye. Watering of the eye. EXCERPT: The lesions were ulcerative and filled with soft light red granulation tissue. When curretted, the deeper layers revealed a dense fibrous tissue with calcified foci. Close examination of the lesions showed that the superficial layer of this dense fibrous tissue contained small caseated and necrotic foci. The same features prevailed in lesions involving the muscular areas, but the deeper layers consisted of a dense granuloma with no evidence of cicatrization. Curretted material digested in potassium hydroxide revealed fragments of larvae of the nematode suggestive of Draschia or Habronema. read the article here: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2145616&dopt=AbstractEXCERPT: When the larvae emerge from flies feeding on preexisting wounds or on moisture of the genitalia or eye, they migrate into and irritate the tissue, which causes a granulomatous reaction. The lesion becomes chronic, and healing is protracted. Diagnosis is based on finding nonhealing, reddish brown, greasy skin granulomas that contain, yellow, calcified material the size of rice grains. Larvae, recognized by spiny knobs on their tails www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/htm/bc/71801.htmThis article is very informative about the life cycle, habit, etc. nz.merial.com/horse_owners/disease/habro.htmlSorry, No mention of colorful strand fibers, funky dust, or black specks, but would you see those on a horse??? naturally, though, those symptoms could be another part of the menagerie... like i have to tell any of you that! spec
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Post by Guest Me on Aug 1, 2005 14:33:51 GMT -5
I cannot find a single reference on this website to "pseudoskin" before you mentioned this.
Are you grabbing at air, or am I missing something?
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Post by sumtingwong on Aug 1, 2005 18:58:00 GMT -5
i was showing my leasions to my mother some months ago and she said my grandmother would have called this proud flesh just rememberd it after reading this .we did have one hell of a bad year last year from fruit flys 23yrs same house we actually had to put out fly strips
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Post by anony on Aug 2, 2005 0:55:21 GMT -5
I've been suppressing this for a while now. I didn't want to believe it could be it. I think you are right Spec. At least it sure is close to being what I see. Now the question is....why is this infestation happening to so many people? Are the fibers a type of technology that produce this infliction in man? Can parasites and diseases be contained in a type of fiber technology?
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Post by SpecueLatin on Aug 2, 2005 15:54:15 GMT -5
Hello Guest me, sumtingwong (love that handle!), and anony, Thanks for your replies/ Guest me, the psuedo skin entries may have been lost when the website lost a mess of older posts. It is weird pinkish stuff that appears like skin that grows in the lesions. It seems to have no feeling except for the area it is adhered to. Some have conjectured that this may possibly be a stage of the larva. When I saw this "proud flesh" information, I felt sure it was a match. It is our own body over producing this weird feeling stuff inside the lesion. anony: I don't count out any speculations about any possible source, until we find the answer, we need to keep an open mind, is what I think. Here is why I am so vibed out on this, I smell a rat! Here are the clues: I have seen some sort of worm time and again in the lesions. The parasite the above articles mentions one that is so similar to this one that is in my lesions. It is transmitted even by ordinary house fly. The horse is the primary host. Larva will develop in manure. Flies hatch in this manure. The fly leaves the larva and the larva crawl into the lesions, mouth, eye, genitilia, where ever is moist. Many have mentioned this is a varmint that loves moisture. Powders are more likely to kill it then moisture treatments especially those with the petroleum jelly. The larva stay-on and live in the lesion expanding it and can also migrate. These are all things we are talking about on this website. Flies in manure, I wonder why bacteria seem to be a component duh. There is more, but don't want to create another huge long post. I have killed the little worm with a piperazine liquid product and many herbal products. It will let loose and come off. There is more than one in a lesion. I don't know how long they live or if they reproduce as larva. This varmint has got to go, or the healing won't begin. Once the varmint is dead, there probably will be spontaneous healing of the lesion, without further treatment of the "proud flesh" because it is the presence of this organism that can cause this to happen. I really hope that this is a big source of the problem for many people, because they may be able to get well without abusing their bodies with long-term antibiotics that bolster the industry and a few persons who are promoting their "cure". Some may need the antibiotics for their Lyme or the morgellons organism, if this is not IT. So don't get me wrong. No sense "shooting in the dark", small experiments such as this can tell a lot. The topical treatments I have tried produce this varmint that wraps itself on the edge of the lesion (expanding it) sometimes burrowing in a clockwise fashion along the very edge. It can wrap itself in the lesions edge up to two times around. Weird. I couldn't believe it the first time this happened. The lesion does not always have to be round, sometimes the varmint is shaped like a hairpin in a longer lesion. Sometimes the head and tail meet, sometimes not quite, sometimes overlap. So, I think that is what we are being infected by, a larva vectored by an ordinary housefly, that has frequented or hatched from a manure pile. Sumtingwong: Thanks for your message about your mother's quote on what grandmother's suspicions would have been, see it is the old-fashioned remedies that are best! Jane has posted a similar entry about suspicions, on another thread! The Benzalkonium Chloride seems to be getting to what is in these lesions, some have burrowed under the skin, and it may take awhile for enough of the ingredient to penetrate these layers. It isn't that far down, my doctor snipped the skin and took a varmint out once, barely noticed him doing it, without any desensitizing I might add. So I know it isn't very far this stuff needs to go to get to it. Gold Bond Medicated First Aid Quick Spray contains this ingredient in the same concentration as what is found in the Fungisan. ohwell, it is a long post spec
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Post by Lisa on Aug 3, 2005 14:41:49 GMT -5
In reference to the "psuedoskin'' that's mentioned... I remembered I had taken notes on this at one time and went back to look it up. Spec, I thought you might find it of interest. gsbs.utmb.edu/microbook/ch032.htmDiphtheritic lesions are covered by a pseudomembrane. Corynebacterium diphtheriae infects the nasopharynx or skin. The diphtheritic lesion is often covered by a pseudomembrane composed of fibrin, bacteria, and inflammatory cells. corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis www.vetcontact.com/en/art.php?a=665&t=-- article from Israel describes a corynebacterium pseudotuberculosis outbreak in a dairy cattle herd causing both ulcerative granulomatous skin lesions and mastitis.
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Post by mondegreen on Aug 3, 2005 17:08:41 GMT -5
Proud flesh does not produce syptoms common in morgellon problems. First off, even though a horse is a mammal there has been no scientific information pointing to horses as a common carrier. Second; if proud flesh does carry the spiral protein cluster thread then you can safely say; horses can also catch morgellons. Remember folks you are dealing with a neg postive gram neuropeptide that is clustering around nurses and teachers, the colored threads embedded in the flesh and blood culture is a precusuer only as a means of direction and not a solid indicator of a morgellons type of skin and blood disease.
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Post by SpecueLatin on Aug 3, 2005 21:07:14 GMT -5
Hmm. Lisa, you keep such a fantastic collection, you are like an intermediate link to the WWW!!
I read the articles (but a lot of the science is beyond me),
Please tell me, what do you think?
I don't think I am immunocompromised, etc. and was once vaccinated for better or worse, so hmm.
spec
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Post by Lisa on Aug 3, 2005 21:36:21 GMT -5
"colored threads embedded in the flesh and blood culture is a precusuer only as a means of direction and not a solid indicator of a morgellons type of skin and blood disease"
AAAAAAGGGGGGHHHH! You are driving me crazy don't ya know? Juicier bone please!
Do you mishear lyrics often (mondegreen), ChemG/bugged1?
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Post by SpecueLatin on Aug 3, 2005 21:54:33 GMT -5
Hello mondegreen,
hmm. not sure if we are communicating here. These articles point to a fly that introduces a larva onto horses. The larve then makes its way into an abrasion, or other "wet" area that it attracts too. Rather than maturing, it remains as a larva, taking up housekeeping in that location, or possibly migrating around in the skin.
While it is there, it continually aggravates the skin, and the skin produces this odd pinkish flesh, that protrudes from the lesion, bleeds profusely when cut, has no nerves and therefore no feeling.
These traits coincide with my lesions, including a varmint found in the lesions/nodules. It also coincides with what some of the other sufferers on this board have stated, based on what they have posted here for the 6 months or more that I have been reading the posts.
Being new here, you would probably not know this, but I do not have the long fibers that come through the skin, only the clear (sometimes pink, blue, dark reddish brown) nasty, painful, digging and gripping ones found attached to/with crap that exits the skin, and are also found on blood varmints, sometimes looping back into the crud.
I also have the white bundles, though few, but will leave the description of my symptoms at this for now. I need to get some images posted for better clarity of communication on these topics. I have dozens of weird varmints, including ones that appear at the MRF website, the lymephotos website, and many of the members here who have posted images.
PLEASE NOTE, TO ALL READERS: I AM NOT INDICATING THAT I BELEIVE HORSES ARE THE SOURCE OF MORGELLONS IN ANY WAY(I believe mondegreen you used the term "common carrier"), BUT IF THEIR IS A LARVA WHICH CAN THRIVE ON A HORSE, INFESTING IT WITH A MiSERABLE LESION, we can likely harbor that parasite as well. It may not even bother the primary host in the same manner as it would an incidental host.
I only raised the question, that if, perchance, this particular parasite is in some way able to introduce the morgellons organism, horses may suffer as well, and who would notice the black threads, black specks, colored fibers, etc. unless the vet was really looking for it.
Here are some questions for you mondegreen, based on your post, please add additional information that you may have on:
1. What is a "spiral protein cluster thread"?
2. Who has identified morgellons as a "neg positive gram neuropeptide"?
3.a. Who has identified morgellons as a specific, identifiable skin and blood disease? and
3.b. Who has stated that the colored fibers embedded in skin and blood culture only represent as a precursor, and not an indicator of the morgellons disease itself??
If these are facts, we need to see that scientific evidence! and even if these are just the opinion of a few, please identify the source, and please also provide us with verifiable credentials, so we know whomsoever it is that has come to these exacting conclusions.
It is only fair, we all would like access to this information.
You are new to this board and I don't mean to be giving you or anyone a hard time, but a lot of persons here post "knowledge" as fact, but do not provide for us something other than their word to back it up.
Thank you.
Spec
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Post by QuestionHair1 on Aug 3, 2005 22:35:04 GMT -5
I wonder if you are talking about Summer Sores on horses. I have two horses that I have had to deal with. Both got "cuts" or some type of opening on their faces, the mare also on her neck and the gelding also in his sheath.
These became swollen inflammed areas that attracted flies who then laid eggs in there. The first case, a few years ago, was the mare. Easily treated by the vet and with cleaning and follow-up with increased use of Ivermectrin - more than the usual worming schedule for the other horses.
That vet also recommended that I pack her open summer sores with Ivermectrin after cleaning them.
The mare will always be on more Ivermectrin than the rest of the horses since she attracts flies more than other horses.
Perhaps you know people who seem to attract mosquitos or other bugs more than other people. Well, I have some horses that year after year attract the most flies on different areas of their bodies. Some their legs, some their chest, some their jawline, etc.
Last year a new horse developed summer sores on his face and inside his sheath. I called a different veterinarian who said the horse was allergic to Ivermectrin and that I would have to clean the sores twice a day.
I spent a lot of last summer cleaning that horse's wounds only to watch them grow. Cleaning involved pulling rice like larvae out with tweezers. And, no Ivermectrin.
By the time I called another vet, the face sore was huge. And, I was very familiar with it with all the time I spent picking things out of it. I found no fibrous items, just fly larvae.
However, the second vet found the horse was not allergic to Ivermectrin, and once surgically cleaned and treated with shots and Ivermectrin, the horse eventually cleared up.
He does have scars there now, but they are smooth, and I wouldn't necessarily think of proud flesh when I look at them. Had the first vet diagnosed correctly, the horse would have been cured quickly and I would have saved so much time and he would have no scars - oh well.
(I don't have the fibers in the skin symptoms)
QH
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Post by meme on Aug 3, 2005 23:18:08 GMT -5
What do you have ?
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Post by QuestionHair1 on Aug 3, 2005 23:42:57 GMT -5
What do I have? That's what I'm trying to find out!
Symptoms were basically scalp. Started ~4 years ago after self-treating for scabies (cleaned out an old shed full of trash and clothing when I moved here) - MD prescribed Lindane and some prescription that when I looked up on the internet appeared to be for mental conditions, so I didn't take it, figuring it was a pharmaceutical error - and the Lindane did the job
Followed thereafter by a lice infestation - which I self-treated for. And, it never seemed to go away - even though I didn't see anything, I kept feeling the crawling, biting, itching sensations.
Fast forward to earlier this year, got Valley Fever and Pneumonia. Was put on Fluconazole. An antifungal.
Also, upon being informed that I was going to get a CT scan, I told the doctor about the itching, crawling, biting sensations I felt. To which she replied: "No you don't" and the next few visits went downhill from there.
I was driven to the internet to find answers.
And, here I am.
Scalp over the past years has had "things" on the hair shaft, but nothing moves. Some look like "leglike" - there are shiny clear growths (fibrous, but not under the skin) and some are dark. Some are clumps attached to hair, some are like unfolding spirals. And nose and ear symptoms when the scalp symptoms get better.
Candida diet has worked wonders on quality of life. Every day without those torturous symptoms is great.
Also had "hot spots" found in an MRI - MD said that is arthritis in a knee, lower spine, and something in the neck area.
Other symptoms, more internal.
Found springtails in the house earlier this year.
I think there is a weakened immune system, exposure to mold (water leak in the house), or yeast or fungal infection - no sugar helps a lot.
That should answer the question.
I think there are co-infections.
I took photos of some of the "things", but they aren't great and it's not a complete representation.
Husband had similar condition but is now in denial. Yet, he pays attention to what I eat and don't eat and seems to copy me - oh well.
QH
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Post by SpecueLatin on Aug 4, 2005 0:09:44 GMT -5
Hello QuestionHair Yes, the condition has a few names including summer sores, and it seems to me they mention in the linked articles in my original posts, they also mention that fungus is a problem for horses and part of this ordeal in some cases. Have you ever noticed any fungal problems with your horses? Too bad you and your horse had to deal with that condition, when he was not allergic to Ivermectin after all. Have you ever noticed the "scar tissue" become infected again. That is another similarity that many have posted about, recurring breakouts in the same places and the organisms preference for scar tissue. Glad you are doing so well between the candida diet and antifungal med, As I recall, you cannot eat cheese, any luncheon meat, no fruit juice, barely any natural fruit (or is it absolutely none?), even certain vegetables like corn were no-nos, too much sugar!, no yeast containing things like cracker or bread. I used this once, even the Rainbow diet, I think it was called, for my sinus, sinus headache, back injury that refused to heal, spacy feelings, generally wanted to improve my health, just wanted to, even took the nystatin.. blah blah,. I am sure now that it was all lyme. hmm. QH, Do you have Lyme? I doubted it, back then when the thought crossed my mind. Just as well, no doctor back in those days would have had any good ideas about that here in Arizona. My non-healing itching lesions got me referred here by way of www.naturalginesis.com, then I learned I probably have lyme and I have the veryhigh titer of 1:64 spec
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Post by QuestionHair1 on Aug 4, 2005 1:01:20 GMT -5
SpecueLatin:
To answer your questions, and then to sleep!
Have I noticed fungal conditions with horses? - from time, to time, with the number of horses here, I'm bound to come across almost everything. So yes - but just a couple of times.
For the last horse, no, the same place did not get infected again, although, he just had a new spot start this week, opposite side of the face - but he had rubbed the area open with his fly mask, and opportunistic flies moved right in. But, this year, I'm right on it - with the Ivermectrin and other meds. It'll stay small and clear up soon.
The Candida diet I am following is where you eat no sugar or processed flours and try to eat natural foods that are fresh (no mold) - nothing fermented (black tea, alcohol, etc. - and to make sure to get probiotic stuff like that yogurt with the live culture, etc. And, lots of water, or water with lemon, etc. Certain foods are no nos - like the corn you mentioned.
Side effect: seem to be losing weight, getting nicer skin and nails although my belly is still "out there" and I don't like to do sit-ups.
Do I have Lyme? That's what I'm reading all this stuff here and at Nuspa to figure out - also ILADS and some fungus and candida websites. Also, just ordered a three part series book on Fungal Infections, along with some other books on all these topics.
Plus been reading up on the labs, the tests, etc. to figure out if I want to go that route to take the test.
But, from the little changes I've made from things learned at these websites suggested by people with similar symptoms have made BIG differences in my daily life. The supplements I take make me feel better and when I don't keep up with them my productivity takes a big dive.
I'm on a ;ayman's "research" jag right now, but soon I have to get back on a "work and make $" jag and come back to this later - but in the meantime, I have found out things here enough to make my days GREAT without torturous symptoms all day long.
Some of the discussion here is way above my head, but I'm glad that there are knowledgeable people here sharing what they know. Sometimes I wish they could translate what they are saying into "layman" but then again, I can't do EVERYTHING that is discussed here but have to pick and choose.
Thank you for your help SpecueLatin, and Good Night!
QH
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Post by TP on Aug 9, 2005 17:02:54 GMT -5
Hello! This is just the second time I've posted (previous post provided a link to a BBC article about using antibiotics to kill bacteria that live on parasites, in turn killing the parasite). I think Spec and Question-hair are both right on the money! Spec- have you consider the possibility of a "Midge" being the "Carrier" if you will?? Or even a very small strange brown spider that has a direct relationship with a midge?? I live in rural East Texas, the bank of one the best bass lakes in the state can be seen from my property. Our property is OVER RUN with webs...I mean webs! The webs are full of midges that have plumous antennae, white to clear bodies, white and brown banded legs (I have pictures...not sure where to go to post them so everyone can view). Again, let me say, the amount of webs, midges and spiders are just unbelievable! Anyway...I also have a picture of small brown spider and a movie clip from a QX3 of this spider which has legs like the midge. ...in the clip, the spider has a clear white hair (or web) that appears and waves around like our mystery hairs, kinda snake like in movement.. I took notice of the midge when a swarm got in my laundry room one night and into the dog food bowl. To make a very long story a little shorter...the midge seemed to shed it legs and bore into the chunks of dry food... I took picture of the midge..etc...then..... about a week ago after applying "pink lotion" the vet had left for our paint mares lacerated leg, to the lesions on my face...I pulled what looks to me like a midge larvae out of my face! Can you tell me how to post these pictures so you can look and let me know what you think? Question hair- I rarely post or reply, but I did reply to one of your post at NUSPA....about the little hairs that aren't hairs at all....seems like they have a tinny bend in them..... ;D Sorry to ramble on.....hopefully I can post my pic's soon...any advice on how or where to go for photo' posting? Thanks!!
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Post by Lisa on Aug 10, 2005 0:16:06 GMT -5
Hi TP. I'm guessing you live close to Lake Fork? It's my father's favorite place to fish. He does the tournaments every year. I live in central Tx ..... there seems to be quite a few Texans with this dreaded disease. Here is a link to where we discussed spider webs just recently. It's now on page two. lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?board=rash&action=display&thread=1123211739I moved from the Dallas area to here not long ago and the web problem is severe in both places. Several times this year, there have been clumps of white web material that you can see floating in the air. Long strands of webs draped the telephone lines for miles. You could see it on the lamp posts on the highways too. I took pictures of the web stuff (does not look of spider origin) that covered our jeep, yard, mail box, badminton net, etc. and sent it to Cliff Carnicom. He used them in a documentary he was doing. I knew we were in trouble when the dog refused to go out in the grass. He would take a step out and then lift his paw up and come back to the door. Our dog is no longer with us, but on two different occasions, I bought two different brands of dry dog food from two different stores and both bags were filled with black hairs. They were embedded in the food chunks. It was disgusting. There have been a couple of posts on where to post pictures....don't remember off the top of my head so I'll go looking for it in a little while. You mentioned "the little hairs that aren't hairs at all". I would have to say that's my biggest problem. Do you have roots with grey blobs attached to them?
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Post by QuestionHair1 on Aug 10, 2005 0:58:47 GMT -5
TP: I went back to NUSPA to see where you replied to a post, sorry I didn't catch that before. I saw your reply, I think, but not anything I posted. But, sometimes things I've posted have been edited. I'm not complaining, just acknowledging that it happens.
Lisa: I just want to jump in and say that the blob at the end of the hair shaft (I'm talking the scalp end) is familiar. But it is infrequent now since I've learned things to change and do from these websites.
Many of the "things" are fading away if I stick to the Candida diet and keep taking supplements I've found out about on these websites.
A few of the "things" described by Cliff M were things I knew quite well - but those are fading away now. But, I know this is just a reduction of symptoms, but not a cure.
QH
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Post by Spec on Aug 10, 2005 6:27:32 GMT -5
QuestionHair, I have a Question for you! The mare that the flies are attracted to, any chance the mare has LYME disease? I know dogs can have Lyme, are they recognizing Lyme is horses? TP - Hi thanks for the compliment and interesting post! People who are having the spiderwebs problems will hopefully read! Also, some people see what looks like feathers and suspect it is from chemtrails, I am curious what the plummous antennae look like and, perchance, could this be the feather? (Naaah, they are probably direct from chemtrail, but always specuelating is a habit). hmmm. You can post pics at www.albumtown.com for free, lots of them. Anthill knows how, if you are a member to post pics directing to your post, but I don't have any idea how. There are some other sites mentioned around on different posts. Angel was thinking of creating a webpage, and some people left her some links for free webpage sites. HERE is some new news for my vet medicine friends and herb-lovers alike, (actually this is about collodial minerals.. We are the DUST OF THE EARTH after all.) but is a natural remedy, not a vet remedy.. I was answering Jane on another board so this is a RE-post. YES TP, the dang culicoides (biting midge, punkie, or no-see-um) is a vector for the larva that infect the horses, and US too! For a fact, they carrry some of the onchocerca that infect horses, so small wonder where they keep the thing?? Also they were named as vector for the larva that I have been beating to death on some of these threads, they are the horse stomach worms that are carried by the culicoides, there are two in one family they reside on the surface of the stomach lining and a third that is in a different family that burrows into the stomach lining. They also, of course, infect the flesh, and around other moist areas, such as eyes and mouth, wounds, and .. well, you'll see where else in some of these articles. Any way sorry this is rambling but don't have time right now to clean this post up, wanted to go ahead and share, so here is the REpost: Hello Jane, I am glad the doctor has identified for you what is wrong. The fly is the biggest vector of parasites to man! I have some new information for you, about Silica and "Vibrational Healing", I am amazed as to results, but was waiting to state anything on here until a few more days go by. I will post the link here for you, Jane, however. ALSO, Cowboy Bob is here with some information for you. Be sure to read the last paragraph, the "reply" to cowboy Bob about the manner in which he uses Ivermectin and the success of the treatment. www.lemen.com/qa30.htmlAfter reading this, I was over at the health food store looking for some silica, because I remembered that I felt very good when I use to take it, and it has been mentioned on here as antiparasitic! There is a high concentration of silica in Oats and animals will eat oats over other grains when they get the chance. It also pumps up the collagen in the skin and therefore makes you look great! Our bodies lose the ability to break the silica down later in life into a useful form, but we still need it, in so many ways. I learned about this aspect from Jarrow company that makes a product I bought called BioSil, which is way way better than any silica capsule or alfalfa tablet. I wasn't going to post about this just yet, but the results from this (the exodus is remarkable!) but it sounds like you need this information NOW. The BioSil was $23.00 but this is a 3-month supply. Almost immediately, there were changes. I have cutaneous tracks and these things started to bulge up to the surface of the skin, the contents were dead larva, not the usual painful, biting, clinging to the skin ones. I was so impressed that I went immediately and googled, "Parasites silica" Wow! What I was about to learn! This website does have some extra stuff it sells, so don't go there! Just to the reasonable SILICA GOLD SILVER collodial dropper bottle. Or even just try what I did - the BioSil. Here is one link that explains the Silver Silica Gold collodial, and why "Vibrational Healing" does what it does! www.bodymindspirithealing.com/colloidalssg.htmare you keeping the bugs away from you with the menthol crystals? John (jwf) has posted the links on his thread, herbal remedies, on the Lyme board. I am glad your doctor identified the problem, now once they are out, you will be able to keep them from getting back in, they will not be getting back in. AND Were you not talking about a very handsome prince of a man you had recently noticed? ...I think you will be able to get this difficulty out of the way, I really do! If you think you still want to do the medication route, and you simply cannot get Stromectol (Ivermectin) from any source, then can you order the albendazole from the www.vrdrug.com, it is shipped quite privately! I got some of the Ivermectin horse paste, but I don't take any of the vet stuff internally! It is very concentrated, so even topically I am extremely careful, because of course the skin is going to absorb some of it into the system, I used a tiny amount the size of a pea, and distributed it to the worst of the lesion/nodule/track. Previously, I have used the piperzine "D-worm" for cats and kittens, topically, because it is similar to the DEC, which was used before Ivermectin. Again only topically and found that it did kill the varmint that was living in the wound. According to Cowboy Bob, the wounds need to be treated with some ivermectin topically, while taking the regular wormer internally. This is what I didn't do - both at the same time. Why they don't make a topical Ivermectin for humans, God only knows!! Another remedy the vet uses, but not as successfully, as you will see in the article, was an antibacterial, antifungal, antiinflammatory compounded together, that cost the consumer $100.00. Why, that is the stuff people are using here on the board topically, the antibacterial cream (Neosporin CREAM and the antifungal miconadazole cream! The topical Ivermectin beat the heck out of this veternary concoction though. I looked at the Ivermectin cattle drench, but the cost was like $40.00, and I just didn't think I needed that much. So I got a generic paste and it was only $6.00 Another place that Ivermectin is used in the vet world is for earmites for cats and that prescription earwash is called Epi-Otic. I think I paid $20.00 for that stuff, and am keeping it for my kitties!! You are a lucky girl Jane, you know what you have, and there are good vibrations from silica heading your way! spec END of rrepost. Talk to you all later, looking forward to your pics and inputs. Spec
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