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Post by threadbearer on Aug 4, 2005 10:43:46 GMT -5
This Septra thing isn't working for me. I was one of the first persons to call Schwartz when Randy posted his Septra/Avelox treatment. I went to Mexico and purchased a large plastic bag full of about 50 boxes of Septra. I started taking it and got really sick. My eyes got bloodshot, my skin got red, my stomach got sick, I couldn't eat, I got insomnia etc. Well, I was able to stay on it for about 10 days and finally gave up and said the hell with it. The threads disappeared for a while, but then slowly they found their way back in my life.
About four months later, this being last night, I just took a 400mg tab with my dinner. I was in severe pain and when I got up this morning my eyes were blood red, my body flush, and I felt like ____.
Thankfully, I have good insurance and have a good doctor that will prescribe me anything I ask for. I was told by doctor Schwartz to use Avelox if I had bad reactions to Septra. (This was before he changed his tune to using both at the same time.)
So, obviously, I need to go to the doctor and get Avelox and a good antibiotic prescribed to me. I will take this with acidopholus. I hear you guys talking about Cipro, etc. What should I have him prescribe me besides the Avelox?
Has anyone tried the following? Meropenem Imipenem Polymyxin B Piperacillin/tazobactam Most third-generation cephalosporins Amikacin Cefepime Ciprofloxacin Levofloxacin
I feel this bacteria quite a lot lately, and even though this most likely won't cure it, I need to clean out my system of it for a while. It has already done enough damage to me for the time being. Thank you for your support.
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Post by JLR on Aug 4, 2005 10:56:20 GMT -5
I've read that some people are allergic to sulfur anti-biotics. Hope you feel better soon.
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Post by Patti on Aug 4, 2005 12:04:42 GMT -5
I'm so sorry for your bad reaction.....it's true that many people are allergic or sensitive to the ingredients of Septra/Bactrim. I had taken it earlier and was lucky in that I knew it didn't affect me that way, but I advise anyone trying this first-time to go slowly until you see how it will affect you.
Good luck with your alternate choice. I haven't tried any of the drugs you asked about but I'm sure others will come on and respond. Keep us posted as to your results.
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Post by jeffinhburg on Aug 4, 2005 12:29:30 GMT -5
Threadbearer, You cannot take Avelox and Cipro at the same time - they are close enough to the same stuff. Chem G has had success with tetracycline, which can be combined with the avelox, although tetra has not done much for me over the last week. There is probably an argument to try the cipro before the avelox in that if the buggers get resistant to the cipro, you can then use the avelox, which isn't necessarily true the other way around.
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Post by Lisa on Aug 4, 2005 12:46:52 GMT -5
I had the same reaction you did. When my heart was racing and my lungs felt tight, I stopped. The Biaxin she prescribed along with it, has side effects I can tolerate. When I find out what she suggests to take in place of the other, I'll post it.
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Post by TonyM on Aug 4, 2005 14:01:27 GMT -5
And here I just started Doxycycline @ 100mg @ 2 times a day....and that might help for the 10 days I'll be taking it, but I Know it's not going to kill em.
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Post by anony annie on Aug 5, 2005 7:15:53 GMT -5
well, you DID get it from Mexico, I mean....
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Post by Jeff on Aug 5, 2005 9:13:54 GMT -5
So do millions of Mexicans.
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Post by Angel on Aug 5, 2005 21:18:25 GMT -5
See that???, drugs are not the answer. I always do herbal cure and I did and I am fine now. But you have to know which ones. Schwartzi doesn't do herbs. I spent a ton of money on a lot of things, til I figured it out for myself with the help of someone as a referral to me.
Angel sedonia7@msn.com
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Post by ER on Aug 6, 2005 9:25:39 GMT -5
Can I ask why you arent willing to share here what worked for you like evryone else does?
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Post by jeffinhburg on Aug 7, 2005 13:35:38 GMT -5
I started the septra on Friday. Still too soon to say, but there are definitely changes going on. I had already been doing the tetra and then the tetra/cipro. The tetra didn't seem to be doing anything. There was some improvement again in the stinging with the addition of the cipro, but only minor improvement, so I am doing the septra/cipro. there is definitely some healing going on, but not sure whether that's just secondary infections healing due to the abx, or whether it's really going to make a difference.
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Post by J Jill on Aug 7, 2005 22:49:37 GMT -5
J,
I disagree with your statement:
See that???, drugs are not the answer. I always do herbal cure and I did and I am fine now. But you have to know which ones. Schwartzi doesn't do herbs. I spent a ton of money on a lot of things, til I figured it out for myself with the help of someone as a referral to me. Angel sedonia7@msn.com
I've taken most everything for this- herbals, ionics minerals, you name it- and while it does help it doesn't cure.
My opinion is that you need to have the antibiotics and the sulfa drugs to truly be cured of this stuff.
I felt like a new person when I had a course of antibiotics for an abcessed tooth a while back. Odd, because I was so ill with the abcess.
I could feel the meds at work in my bones.
I'd leave your advise on the board as just that-
There are people who read this who are truly ill and the best chance that they have is to read the stories of those who are now better due to one drug or another.
The ellagic acid is a truly wonderful substance but it is not a cure-all either. Possibly it will keep some of us from cancer and help in restoring our immune systems but it is not a cure.
Same with all the other herbals.
I don't know if this is a bio-weapon that we are dealing with as some believe, but it's a hard thing to beat for certain.
I'm glad that you quit pushing the ionic copper anyway. Good move!
Jill
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Post by mlc on Aug 8, 2005 13:35:38 GMT -5
i'd listen to dr schwartz and do the avelox. you can take it alone. i've been on the avelox alone and it's working great. i was on the tetra for about 2 months it doesn't even compare the avelox. i also agree with j jill herbs are good but you need avelox or bactrim.
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Post by Spec on Aug 8, 2005 13:47:13 GMT -5
Hello mlc,
Someone on here explained that the avelox was to breakdown the biofilm, which covers the organism, I assume similiar to a cyst.
Once broken, the septra was suppose to be doing its job, but that was suppose to be, starving it, by blocking the use of folic acid in the body.
Hmm.
How does the avelox work on its own then? If you know the reason or why you think its works alone, please share.
spec
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Post by bugged1 on Aug 8, 2005 14:15:10 GMT -5
It inhibits an important bacterial enzynme DNA gyrase which is required for DNA replication and transcription. Read up on viral replicators and you'll get an idea for how powerful a drug the fluoroquinolones are (Cipro, Avelox). I have long felt that the Septra was unnecessary in Dr. Schwartz's protocol.
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Post by Spec on Aug 8, 2005 14:28:41 GMT -5
Glad to see you are still participating on the board Chem.
Thanks, I'll look "viral replicators" up and see what I learn.
spec
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Post by greg on Aug 8, 2005 17:29:42 GMT -5
When I started Septra DS, 6 per day with Avelox 2 per day, that night I woke up with high fever, migrane, dizziness, and extreme nasea and weakness. I stayed on this for a week, because I knew that it was killing something that all of the (Lyme, and 2 other coinfections I was being treated for), all of the year and 1/2 of combinations of 5 anibiotics did not touch the Morgellons disease. I could not tolerate the 6 per day anymore, but dropped down to 2 Septra DS with the Avelox. Then About every other day I added another one until I built back up to the 6 per day. I had the fever, migranes, dizziness, etc for 3 weeks straight, and then they started to diminish. Now still at 4 per day of the DS and 2 Avelox, I am beginning to enter my 4'th month. I added Artemesenin and Grapefruit Seed Extract, and I am the best I have been in 15 years, about 90% relieved. I couldn't give it up because I knew if I had a fever, that it was killing a Disease that I have had for 15 years. You may be sensitive to it as I was, but you must not play games with it. If it kills it and you stop taking it, it may build a resistance even to what is deemed the best Protocal of the Medical Community. Without this I may have been lost. NOTE: STAYING ON IT WAS THE HARDEST THING I HAD EVER DONE IN MY LIFE. BUT IT IS WORTH IT NOW! Also, I hope I never have to go through this again, but I'll gladly exchange 3 weeks for my life any day. Greg
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Post by greg on Aug 8, 2005 17:41:30 GMT -5
Also in talking with Dr. Schwartz I agreed to eat more smaller meals or snacks throughout the day, and this really helped. Avelox on minimal food or a snack, and the Septra DS with a meal, or larger snack. With the Avelox no Dairy with it. Greg
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Post by Orion*** on Aug 8, 2005 22:18:50 GMT -5
Is any one here fmiliar with Rx--Mepron and Zithromax. My LLMD has put me on these..but l also have an active infection of babesiosis, He just about died because of Micky Mouse MLMedicine. He is also an oncologest. The encyphieletic effect of this disease can do brain damage so I am sched. for nuclear brain scan tomorrow...
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