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Post by skytroll on Jul 22, 2007 20:33:21 GMT -5
chaosonline,
there are many various mutations from the sources. But, dysplasia can cover most and all involved with maybe not the same genetic mutations on same gene, I think it depends on the genetic makeup of many different individuals.
In otherwords dysplasia is the general term, but the myosin and mitochondria changes can happen at N-terminals or C-terminals, so there will be variations of the mutations.
Actin yes, muscle fibers and nerve fibers.
So, don't be disheartened, ........we are on the road folks, stoke up the fire in the train, we are moving. We have a good conductor, in more ways than one.
Skytroll
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Post by bugsy on Jul 22, 2007 20:36:13 GMT -5
So this isn't just another red herring? ~Bugsy
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 22, 2007 20:38:08 GMT -5
I hope you are right because I am feeling pretty bad right now. For myself but also for the others on this board that I played a role in offering false hope to.
I did try goggling in several different ways with several rare diseases and I got mixed results.
Karen W
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Post by skytroll on Jul 22, 2007 20:41:30 GMT -5
Believe me, here chaosonline, You have it........please.........this is what they will call it, and what you have proven, is that they are naming it different things, just like they have in the past with most mutations that have set up the standard for disease making. You have done us a great favor.
You have no need to feel bad. People are reading other things into this. The gene itself is the evidence.
Meanwhile keep looking for where CDC is hiding this. Many areas.......many different names.
But, it is there and in other genes too. So, you are not to be beating yourself up over this.
God love ya,
Skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Jul 22, 2007 20:50:41 GMT -5
Lets see what the NIH and the WHO has to say? check some of these out if you can: some won't let you in there is one on UCLA, check it out or see if you can download, goes back to 1990-91 oh and before too. tinyurl.com/2ozat7skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Jul 22, 2007 20:54:39 GMT -5
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Post by janedough on Jul 22, 2007 22:30:34 GMT -5
Wow, Go Bucky is back online to tell us how stupid we are. How long have you been in the shadows and on your day off, too.
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Post by toni on Jul 23, 2007 8:02:16 GMT -5
Kaosonline,
Please don't feel bad, really. We might have been written off with that one, and anyone can make a mistake, no big deal. As you said with your ideas motivate CDC, and don't lose that steam.
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 23, 2007 10:28:22 GMT -5
Good Morning, I still believe there is a connection between 1q42 and morgellons. As I said earlier my daughter is Situs Inversus complete .I believe this is Trisomy on 1q42 chromosome or band 42 on the long arm of chromosome 1 sometimes stated as 42.1 . This area is responsible for fiber type disproportion in humans. This much I do know about this site this is an evolutionary conserved fragile site. Individuals with mutations in this site are susceptible to fibroid growths, endometritus, high blood pressure, variant Cystic Fibrosis, Right Left asymmetry trans locations , bi-polar disorder, schizophrenia, prostate cancer, it has been indicated in lupus which I was diagnosed with and I have also read it is implicated in M.S. to name a few diseases. I am currently checking out immotite cilia syndrome which I was asked to have my daughter checked for but the Ear , Eyes nose and throat doctor at the time had no idea what it was. I wondering if there is some sort of connection between the worm c.elegans ,G.M.O.'s and immotite cilia syndrome. Can any one elaborate.
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Post by skinmystic on Jul 23, 2007 11:34:47 GMT -5
I had a friend who had a Trisomy 18 pregnancy. The baby died at birth. I don't see how this has anything to do with Morgellons. It must be a mistake.
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Post by toni on Jul 23, 2007 12:12:24 GMT -5
Lilsissy,
There "could" be a connection with C Elegans and GMO...in the "light" of us being infected/contaminated as I call it.
GMO and C. Elegans ARE used as crop pesticides too.
Not just the "seeds" of the foods we eat were "tweaked" containing lots of what we've been diagnosed with. The seeds of crops before their planting are in fact "tweaked" with GMO to create crops that each and every plant (CELL) contains all the pathogens added as to be a built-in pesticide.
They also found that by "contaminating" C. Elegans, heck they've got extra added insurance against particular pests chewing on our crop roots. Because insects can then eat them too...and die because they're loaded with pathogens.
So in all reality one thing keeps eating the other that's full of pathogens that are deliberately mutated by the use of Agrobacterium to kill of the bigger prey. My question has been...where does it stop? How does something that continues to mutate "know to stop when mammals eat it"?
Reality is...they're finding out it doesn't just cause we ate it.
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 23, 2007 12:19:42 GMT -5
I still do not think it is a mistake , It would have to be a heck of a coincidence at best and I doubt that . 1q42 is the gene location that is muted in Cystic Fibrosis Variant(a type of incomplete C.F.) in which G.M.O. Agrobactrium has been know to invade in the lungs of affected patients , this I believe can horizonally transfer Agrobactrium Genes to them. . I am new at this and I have been learning alot in a short time but I believe Trisomy is not distinct to Cystic Fibrosis or gene 1q42 . Altho I believe Trisomy(which is gene overlapping) in 1q42 ,can present itself as Cystic Fibrosis Variant + eating or inhaling G.M.O agrobactrium further allows new mutantations to occur to in the affected persons D.N.A,
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Post by bugsy on Jul 23, 2007 12:30:14 GMT -5
Thanks pez. Chaosonline no need to feel bad. Wow this was quite interesting. You are tuned in at least.......! Life takes unusual turns sometimes. Keep on keepin on ... the answers will come in due time.
~Bugsy
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Post by toni on Jul 23, 2007 12:40:58 GMT -5
Lilsissy,
I understand what you're saying. I too feel just about anything is possible at this point. This in my mind, is nothing shy of playing with fire, eventually leads to getting burned. I think that's why no scientist or doctor we've all been to can see a thing. They aren't trained for this one. I also think that's why "only" a few are aware because one needs special training/education for this one, because if this were something even semi simple...we'd of heard of a treatment already. I think too, because CDC has NEVER behaved as they are with this "problem" that there is a serious problem that they are working on, which I never believed the DOP thing..that was a blatent time buying excuse. The last thing I believe is we can and will make it though this, if we take the best care we can of ourselves till they do figure it all out...and the only way to push that issue with all research facilities to to let the public know this is happening...that way EVERYONE will get seriously involved, cause that is what we need...all of us.
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Post by belikewater on Jul 23, 2007 12:43:18 GMT -5
How do you know the bacteria and viruses, esp. the creative spirocheres, AKA Bb or Lyme, haven't been doing this for 2.5 billion years? Cummon people, how do you think you breathe oxygen? Mitochondria are modified cells that invaded yours billion years ago.
In my opinion, if humans don't get a modification of our genetics, we will kill ourselves off and not be here anymore, anyway.
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Post by toni on Jul 23, 2007 13:26:47 GMT -5
Lilsissy, On that CDC page in the search box...I typed in several different diseases, this one, I typed in "black plague" and still the "morgellons paragraph" comes up. rarediseasesinfo.aspensys.com/asp/diseases/diseaseinfo.asp?ID=183I don't think necessarily that means black plague is associated with Morgellons. That CDC page seems to be screwy is all.
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Post by skytroll on Jul 23, 2007 14:17:22 GMT -5
Not CDC site, is the NIH.
Skytroll
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Post by Sidney on Jul 23, 2007 14:33:52 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Jul 23, 2007 14:38:03 GMT -5
Sid,
So it was confirmed, thank you.
And I guess it is the NIH that says contact CDC.
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 23, 2007 14:49:28 GMT -5
I would like to point out again that when one Googles '1q42 and Morgellons' there are 2 results. Not just one, but two from the same source! The first being an excel spreadsheel listing Morgellons as a rare disease. The second ties the 1q42 genes to Morgellons. www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-34%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=1q42+morgellonsAlso this lists Morgellons as a "Rare Disease" something CDC has refused to do until now: rarediseasesinfo.aspensys.com/asp/diseases/diseases.asp?this=M#toplistI think we should demand hard and fast answers from CDC not just a tidbit excuse for this. If the 1q42 has a connection, and I believe it does, then if we press hard enough they will have to let the info out or they will eventually look like fools if is ultimately declared to have a connection. We should all be calling the hotline and any connections within CDC demanding full disclosure! I called and left a message demanding an answers. Karen W
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