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Post by lilsissy on Jul 23, 2007 15:11:10 GMT -5
Toni , I went to your CDC link and typed in 12 different diseases and that CDC morgellons paragraph did not appear. Scary ....... These were my searches ; saal bulas, samson gardner ,salla, barrett syndrome ,hepatitus c, leprosy ,lichen planes ,stargardts ,steven johnson ,zollinger ellison syndrome,job's syndrome. They sound like rare diseases to me.
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Post by ppy18 on Jul 23, 2007 15:26:50 GMT -5
a rare disease is one in which 200,000 or fewer suffer from in the united states. according to henrietta at the offices for rare disease they are not acknowledging morgellons as a rare disease only listing it because the cdc is investigating it..... sounds hinky. anyway, she insist that a programming error is the cause for the page coming up linking morgellons with the mutated gene??? hell i can't remember how it goes except that it has a q 12 in it somewhere. anyway she seemed confused when she entered the info and got the same pages but insisted it was human error and would speak to their programmers and get back with me. maybe a mistake maybe not? lets see where she takes us.
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 23, 2007 17:33:32 GMT -5
It appears that the CDC has removed the reference to Morgellons from the page! I am unaware of any explanation, anybody hear anything that might come in the way of an explanation? Here is a catched version: tinyurl.com/ysw2xrKaren W
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 23, 2007 17:35:45 GMT -5
Just for the heck of it I looked at Plaque , Pneumonia Septicemia, Black Plague to see what they had in common. What I found was a link they all have with yersenia bacteria. Crystal structure of AGR_C_4470p from Agrobactrium tumefaciens bears strong structural homology with the two domains of the heme utilization protein ChuS from e-coli and HemS from yesinia enterocolitica. Seems kind of odd they all have this yesenia in common as agro can now infect humans, wonder if the CDC is leaving us breadcrumbs out of the woods.
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 23, 2007 17:45:49 GMT -5
Where are you Skytroll?
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Post by Administration on Jul 23, 2007 19:15:43 GMT -5
It appears that the CDC has removed the reference to Morgellons from the page! I am unaware of any explanation, anybody hear anything that might come in the way of an explanation? Karen, you probably haven't had a chance to read Page 3 of this thread yet but apparently it was a mistake. Maybe we will hear more on it later but regardless, thanks so much for your contribution!
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 23, 2007 19:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Jul 23, 2007 20:03:37 GMT -5
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 23, 2007 20:11:34 GMT -5
OK you Guys,
Here is some info posted on another Morgellons board:
I have a rare disease that is genetic and chromosome related. I have what is called an insertion mutation...................... My family has an insertion mutation. Does this mean anything with what you have found out? The GLA gene is located on the long (q) arm of the X chromosome at position 22. More precisely, the GLA gene is located from base pair 100,539,452 to base pair 100,549,606 on the X chromosome.
Karen W.
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 23, 2007 20:26:42 GMT -5
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Post by ppy18 on Jul 23, 2007 20:29:26 GMT -5
lets all take 2 giant steps back....... this ain't progress baby, it's a slap in the face. awarding a private contract to kp because they have the space data base and patient access? the cdc was offered the space by the state of california. we offered them the patient base. how are they going to use patient records to find similarities when most were diagnosed with scabies, eczema, rash depression etc. they can't "review a catalogue of evidence to include our fibers , when none was kept. an hmo with everything to gain by cutting corners and fudging their results is the only one that can do thi job? uhhhhh what the H E L L are my tax dollars going for? to afford the cdc their new luxury digs, complete with high tech gym and relaxation room. too busy working out and relieving stress to do their jobs now . this blows big time. this contract will officially be awarded aug 30. get on the horn people. we can't have this.and whats with the original respoinse being july 30th 2007. a little premature ejaculation maybe? and the archive date is listed as aug14 2007. something stinks in whoville . on another note, i contacted the organization / offices for rare diseases about the link with the chromosone and morgellons page . after discussing it she assured me that it was a programming error and said she would get it straightened out. she called me back 2 to assure me that it was indeed an error on their part and the "patch" that was causing the glitch had been removed. she said that the program was only causing this glitch on specific computer models and asked me if i could try plugging in another chromosome and morgellons and still get the same result. at the time i did not have access to my computer so could not comply with her request. anyone try a different chromosome? i think toni tried different rare diseases and did not get the same result. anybody???
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Post by skytroll on Jul 23, 2007 20:38:10 GMT -5
That darn schizo label is not going to work NIH. But, we can see all the genes put in there that caused this can't we? Let's break them down: the next one: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=173870number 3: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=170000number 4: "Using a PCR-select cDNA subtraction analysis to identify downstream targets of Wnt1 (164820), Tao et al. (2001) isolated a partial mouse cDNA, termed Wrch1, which they then used to clone full-length mouse and human cDNAs. Human WRCH1 encodes a deduced 258-amino acid protein that shares 92% and 57% sequence identity with mouse Wrch1 and human CDC42 (116952), respectively. WRCH1 has features conserved among members of the Rho family of GTPases including GTP and GDP binding domains, the effector domain, and a CAAX lipid modification signal in the C terminus." www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=606366This was an error for our benefit, but, certainly not for them, because we are getting under this gene mutation business. Click on all the number in the third column, pick your disease, and what would the extra X chromosome in females have to do with this? Ah......that would be another discussion......... but the locus is the same for all these diseases. Morgellons is the newest. number 5: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=606123Are you getting it yet? One thing I have learned about muscular dystrophy is that it is a PSEUDOGENE, now would that be processed, then this has been done before, John Hopkins. this one they talk much about muscle fibers: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/dispomim.cgi?id=255310Skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Jul 23, 2007 20:40:32 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Jul 23, 2007 21:41:30 GMT -5
Lil sissy,
can't get those.....can you do a tiny url?
Select the link go to edit and copy the link then go to
above on this thread and copy link into the space up above where it says to make tiny url, you will get that page and then select and copy that tiny url back on here.
You can do it.
skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Jul 23, 2007 22:10:25 GMT -5
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Post by chaosonline on Jul 23, 2007 22:14:12 GMT -5
PPy18,
That was no mistake that would have varied from computer to computer. I know programing and I checked the source programing for that page. In fact I still have it and you can check it too by going to the Goggle cached page. If you notice the original had a number of 1945 at the end of the address so I changed the number and started with 1000 and just kept going up one digit to view all of the NIH disease pages and only few had the Morgellons hotline listed. In fact that is what I was doing when they changed the original by removing the Morgellons hotline info. Karen W
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Post by toni on Jul 24, 2007 9:04:42 GMT -5
Yes, what I did on that page, was I just typed in the search box another "disease"...like black plague for only a test for myself to see what would happen, and I got that same Morgellons paragraph as we get on the other subject too. I really think it's a funky page...meaning that that Morgellons "paragraph" comes up sometimes no matter what you type in. Not everytime, but alot.
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Post by lilsissy on Jul 24, 2007 10:41:05 GMT -5
Toni, I don't mean to scare you but so far every disease I have seen posted on this board regaurding the CDC morgellons paragraph could possibly be connected to morgellons. First was the mention of 3C which has to do with myosin . 1q42, the body's production of Actin. Actin and Myosin work together to make muscle FIBER. The search regaurding plague with -yersinia bactreria which is in AGROBACTERIA. I connducted 12 searches none turned up cdc morgellons paragraph,see above named diseases surely some of these are rare diseases. I just learned something very interesting about gene 1q42,but I have an appoinment at the doctors to have my uterine fibroids checked, which is one of the things 1q42 mutation causes. Discusting information I know but in the interest of science I'ts time to lay it all out, I'm not saying this is the plague, or 3C but I believe these could be co-factors .... gotta run...God Bless
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Post by toni on Jul 24, 2007 10:45:33 GMT -5
Lilsissy,
You have very good points, and you may be on to something here! Good luck at the docs. Let us know how it goes.
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Post by skytroll on Jul 24, 2007 12:47:36 GMT -5
Many diseases can be linked to this gene locus, so I think finding those that pertain would also relate to what has happened to our genes, whether on this locus or another, but, there was reason Morgellons was associated with this and now it could be taken off just to get the heat off.
If we dig into the gene locus and point mutations, you will find many diseases associated with it Chromosome 1 is the largest gene, so many diseases can be associated with it and it would depend on where on the gene the point mutation or checkpoint change, deletion or duplication is.
Will look more into the locus.
Skytroll
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