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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2007 9:17:13 GMT -5
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Post by Carrie♥ on Aug 2, 2007 9:33:19 GMT -5
Hey Momma...they look just like that! How big though? I don't think there are any macro bacterias like this. Until you see those chains you will not understand the magnificence of these chains. There are different types too. Jose's KJ are from whiping...those are also different from the one's you find in the toilet from expelling the whole beast. I'm hoping Randy will make a public statement soon about them. Good lookin' out Tonisue...what size? these guys are big guys! Remember these are only at 100X magnification. You know I love you though...and even more all your efforts!!!
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Post by josej on Aug 2, 2007 9:38:19 GMT -5
Toni, yea there sure is a lot of similarity. But like Carrie says, I wonder what "size" are those pictures of the bacilli? Here's another link, to one of your favorite little monsters bacillus thuringiensis, that also has lots of similarity to our chains. www.magma.ca/~scimat/B_thurin.htm
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2007 9:58:30 GMT -5
Yes, I will get you the answers to that question, because that too is what was in my head when I saw those.
I know they can be seen microscopically without anything special.
I REALLY think this is part of our "contamination".
Carrie and Jose...give me an example of what size yours are, those chains.
If you could "give me a comparrison" of something that I'm familar with...like a grain of salt...or sugar, a horse, hahaha (just playing) I'm all excited...not what this is, but a possible path excited.
Thanks, and I'llllllllll be back!
PS, thanks Carrie, Love Momma
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Post by lilsissy on Aug 2, 2007 10:28:49 GMT -5
I was just reading how bactrium that shows up in Cystic Fibrosis shows up as 165 rRna in the human infection . Bacillus Anthracis is one of them. lilsissy
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2007 10:42:29 GMT -5
Lilsissy,
Isn't is the gram negative bacilli that's been extracted from patients with the cystic fibrosis?
The gram positive rods are much different, same family, but very differently shaped.
The pictures above are of the gram positive bacilli anthracis.
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2007 10:46:40 GMT -5
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Post by Carrie♥ on Aug 2, 2007 12:50:19 GMT -5
The first picture up there Tonisue is macro. No magnification...I was sending that baggie to Randy and zoomed in a bit, focused and took the picture. That's how big they are...they are the over oxidized, sclerotinized worm guts girl...
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Post by toni on Aug 2, 2007 13:58:44 GMT -5
Carrie can you give me a comparrison?
Like those rectangular shaped things are the size of?
Thanks!
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Post by reasonable on Aug 2, 2007 17:27:43 GMT -5
Toni, the length of a single "chain" segment can reach 1mm and even 2mm. Usually they average about 0.3-0.5mm. You can see them with the naked eye.
1mm = 1000um. Your "large" bacillus is 4-10um long. That's roughly 100 times smaller.
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Post by Carrie♥ on Aug 2, 2007 17:31:37 GMT -5
Hey Reasonable...did you like the first picture up there of the chains? Nice huh!?! They have a hard exoskeleton like an insect. How do you explain that as being plant like? Just curious as to your thoughts.
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Post by toni on Aug 3, 2007 13:14:18 GMT -5
Love the 'heart' accents!
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Post by Carrie♥ on Aug 3, 2007 14:22:29 GMT -5
Smarty fart daughter taught me that.
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Post by flutterby on Aug 3, 2007 14:47:10 GMT -5
Hello My Friends, I have recently been very sick, but some observations were very revealing. The bacilli........................My illness, I believe, another progression of the Morgellons. I have had difficulty during eating and trying to get food down, resulting by new manifistations. I was very sick for about one week, bringing up mucous and food that never seemed to reach my stomach. For instance, I ate about 1 oz. of grilled chicken breast and a small portion of seseme noodles. After eating, I felt like the food was stuck in the back of my throat and it seemed to be obstructed from getting to my stomach. I felt no nausea, no normal indications of being sick enough to vomit, but I could feel a lump in the back of my throat. I tried to burp, but no air to expell. As I repeatedly tried to burp, I could feel one of the lumps in my throat, slowly begin to move up and finally out into the sink. It was the food I had just eaten, encased in a thick, sticky mucous. As I continued to manipulate my throat in a burping action, I brought up several more mucous blobs, food and worms.
Observation: The mucous expelled was bubbly on the top surface. As I watched, the bubbles seemed to form chains of 4 and 5 and little by little, the bubbles popped and in its place was a small hyphen like organism (-) each bubble produced. As more and more "chains" emerged, with the main bubbly mucous remained stationary, a thin slime trail began to leave the main blob and slowly headed for the sink drain. As I watched, the slime trail slowly move, it was carrying on the top, chains, as seen in the bacilli shown on this post. They were lined up single file and traveled in a straight line, such as this: - - - - - - - - - - - - - -.At no time did any bubbles remaining, travel along the slime trail...........only the newly emerged organisms, which looked exactly like the bacilli.
I also observed several different types of worm-like organisms. Red, black and white. The most revealing organism appeared to be a red, flat worm about 3/4 inch in length. As I watched this worm, one end of it began to grow. As the red wormy thingy was growing longer from one end, it became thinner and thinner, until it appeared to be a red fiber. Also near the center of the red, flat worm was a small circular shape attached to the worm. Again, as I watched, from this round shape attached to the worm, I began to see a white wormy thing emerge, however, the head of this white worm was flat, unlike the other white worms I've seen from my body. This white worm looked like a tube worm, and in a short period of time it had positioned itself, connecting to the worm in and about the center of the main worm.
Only a theary, but, we know the Morgies migrate through our bodies in tracks or straight lines. This was apparant to me as I watched the black hyphen-like organisms emerge from the bubbly mucous.
The growth and thinning of one end of the worm that looked like a red fiber.........theory..........The "fiber is the worm." The tube-like worm attaching itself to the main organism..................nano-tube dispenser? I don't know, just observations, but to me, the revealations of my observations made me think about..............the bacilli, where they come from, although I cannot scientifically verify this. The elongating, thinning red fiber from one end of the worm............could not the fiber be the worm or another manifestation of the worm?
When I had no food left to ease from my throat, I was able to expell globs of heavy mucous and various types or stages of worms. I saw my doctor yesterday and he is referring me for an "endoscopy." Either these masters of disguise will show nothing, or may show some life-forms of the Morgs. God Bless, Love, Flutterby
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Post by janedough on Aug 3, 2007 17:22:31 GMT -5
Oh, Flutterby, that sounds so awful. I am sorry that you have to go through that. Have you seen anyone for that? Not to scare you but a family member is going through that and although I think it is morg related, was diagnosed with esophogeal cancer. This also is realted to fusarium, I believe.
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Post by toni on Aug 3, 2007 19:04:42 GMT -5
Flutterby,
You're going soon to the doctor right for tests?
I am so sorry you are going through this, I can't even imagine, that's just horrible and very sad. A good friend of mine too had the same symptoms you're describing. How long has this been going on that you can't eat or keep it down.
Please see the doc as soon as you possibly can, they do need to run some tests. We're all here for you always.
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Post by skytroll on Aug 3, 2007 19:33:26 GMT -5
Flutterby,
My friend, and the great describer in detail of these things that hurt us so badly. God bless you and keep that head up high, my friend.
I do hope the endoscopy will show the obstruction. Get pictures, ask for them, we have gotten them for my son. Ask for all blood test results also.
Also pay close attention to what they describe as paticulate matter and/or calculi.
Take care my friend, and keep us informed,
Skytroll
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Post by Carrie♥ on Aug 3, 2007 23:15:21 GMT -5
Sky is your son getting better?
Flutterby please keep us posted. Your sickness makes me crazy. What are they doing for you? What do they tell you? How can they ignore your issues? I'm so sorry.
Tonisue...sorry but there is just no way those are bacterial chains. Look at that first picture I posted up there...you see that? If I had some bacteria breeding in me like that I'd be dead. I will remain open and I've been trying to not be so narrow minded :oso thanks for being so strong and lookin' out for us all. I'm tired again...one of those roller coaster rides and wonderin' what the hell is taking so long!?!
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Post by flutterby on Aug 4, 2007 11:34:18 GMT -5
Thank You All, I am sincerely grateful for your caring and support. I still say, my morgellons family, here are very special people. I Love You All. I have been having this problem for months. I saw my doctor 2 days ago. Before I have the endosopy done, I have an appointment to see a neuologist. I'm still having the involunary body jerks, every day, no improvement. So I'm scheduled to have an EMG. I recently had MRI studies on brain, cervical spine and lumbar spine. My back is totally messed up. Anyway, although many abnormalities appeared in the MRIs, there seemed to be no indication of the cause of the "Myoclonus," body jerks. As far as my eating problem, I just don't know. It's just so gross and disgusting. I don't mind bringing up the mucous or any food stuffs, but the worms.................Can't stand them. But, I will keep my head up and keep fighting and I will most definetly keep you posted. Love You All, God Bless, Flutterby
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Post by toni on Aug 4, 2007 11:49:09 GMT -5
Flutterby,
This is so awful, and my heart just goes out to you. Here's a thought, and please check with your doctor about these supplements.
But "peppermint oil" these things we have also hate it.
There are peppermint supplements, BUT not everyone can take them. If you have particular internal problems, peppermint oil can aggravate them more. So that's why you need to ask your doc first.
But something possibly you can do. Buy those mints to suck on, and chew peppermint gum. That might help keep those worm things out of your throat and mouth.
Love Toni
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