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Post by josej on Aug 14, 2007 21:23:26 GMT -5
Last night KJ's scalp was itching like mad. She couldn't stand it any longer. So she ran into the bathroom and scratched and shook her hair over the sink. A lot of debris fell out. Among the stuff there was one little bug... and it was moving... so she picked it out of the sink and put it on a glass slide with a small drop of water (so it couldn't esacape). I took it over to the microscope and took several movies of it. I selected small sections of the movies and made a little clip. (The quality is poor because of the compression.) Click on the link to open the video clip. img531.imageshack.us/my.php?image=springtailmovie081307mw8.flvAnd some people still say that springtails can't live inside a human !!!
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Post by prevenge on Aug 14, 2007 21:41:38 GMT -5
good job at documenting it.
how big was the springtail? a millimeter? less?
ah.. but alas... to be express more plant genes than we normally have been..
i feel .. i feel like i'm gonna... i'm gonna..
blossom!
ewww prevenge.
plants and fungi and springtails oh freakin my.
-M
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Post by bugsy on Aug 14, 2007 22:02:44 GMT -5
Just thought you may find this interesting, especially half-way down the page. If you don't mind weeding through the French section it goes on and on. ha Incidental Infestation of Springtails in Humans. www.geocities.com/fransjanssens/publicat/sidney.htm~Bugsy
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Post by prevenge on Aug 14, 2007 22:11:23 GMT -5
Collembola have never been incriminated in the transmission of human disease (Scott, 1966:19). Almost all of the validated cases of human infestations have involved Collembola in head hair. In most but not all of these cases the people involved have been associated with horses and it has been suggested (but never proven) that [fungi associated with horses were growing on the hair and the Collembola were feeding on these. In all these cases the group involved was a member of the family Entomobryidae. In many but not all cases the infestation has been associated with mild to severe pruritis. There has been a single clearly validated case of a biologist, who had been actively aspirating Collembola in the arctic, getting an infestation of Collembola in his nasal passages (Hurd, 1954:814). Getting rid of these infestations has often proven to be very difficult. In all of the cases mentioned above large numbers of active Collembola were seen and could easily be collected. The nasal passage infestation became apparent when Collembola appeared abundantly in the discharge of nose blowing. If live Collembola are involved in the various infestations than these should be visible to the naked eye on the surface.
BIN-freaking-GO.
although what we experience may be entirely different than these cases, the fact remains that it's been recorded, in one manifestation or another.
collembola eat fungi.. we have a fungus among us.
do you suffer from a mild case of expressing plant genes? well then heynow.. guess you get fungi feeding off your plant tissue. especially the moist inner plant-gene-expressing tissue.
and hey.. if there's a plethora of fungi.. why wouldn't that attract fungi-eating arthropods?
and while you're at it... lets just sprinkle a dash of plant-feeding aphids or other insects on ya cascade of lifeforms within one host..
is this what mother earth feels like with humans on her?
if this is a manufactured plague ... then one must have the stoutest of hearts to live through this.
lets just pray there's an ultimate reward at the end of this.
or maybe this is just what would naturally happen as you develop into a species that actually uses plant genes to their benefit..
we can hypothesize for days..
and..
we will.
at least.. part of the puzzle.
-M
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Post by josej on Aug 14, 2007 22:50:24 GMT -5
Bugsy: Je ne parle pas francais, parlez-vous? Anyway.... that's a very hot button. From Jannsens to Altschuler to Amin. Very very hot discussions. Sometimes not friendly. Frankly, I don't care about all the politics. All I can tell you is that I've seen collembola coming out of my wife. From her skin, her scalp, and in her stool. Maybe it doesn't square-up with conventional wisdom among entomologists... but we have the evidence. I've got specimens in alcohol... I've got pictures... now video clips.
Prev: We don't have horsies in our backyard to get collembola from. (Kinda wish I had a pony, though.) And I feel sorry for Mr Hurd snorting springtails up his nose. Your logic is sound about insects like to eat fungi. But is that the only explanation that suits my wife's situation? ... just asking.
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Post by Sidney on Aug 14, 2007 23:37:52 GMT -5
Jose, your video is excellent and thanks for sharing it. Really nice quality. Oh, you bet the Collembola Topic is hot. It's red hot and steaming. Despite all the debate, I have a copy of the e-mail Dr. Kenneth Christianson sent the NPA congratulating the authors of the NPA paper. Here's a more reader-friendly account of Collembola infestations. collembolareferences.blogspot.com/Maybe they are incidentals, maybe not. Dr. Omar Amin found them in J.H.'s scalp and published that fact along with a picture of the offending Collembola ten or more years ago. A Collembola was removed from J.H.'s scalp via a biopsy performed in a physician's office and mailed to Dr. Richard Pollock, Harvard. Pollock declared (my words, not his, hey, ain't no way, this specimen has been seeded." Alas, Poor Richard, he suffers from Delusions of Authority. Dr. Fred L. Frye is on camera stating he found microscopic Collembola in specimens I sent from my facial lesions more than ten years ago. (NPA-Fred L. Frye "Harvard Presentation" May 20, 1995. To Believe or Not to Believe, makes me no never-mind.
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Post by prevenge on Aug 14, 2007 23:55:19 GMT -5
Bugsy: Je ne parle pas francais, parlez-vous? Anyway.... that's a very hot button. From Jannsens to Altschuler to Amin. Very very hot discussions. Sometimes not friendly. Frankly, I don't care about all the politics. All I can tell you is that I've seen collembola coming out of my wife. From her skin, her scalp, and in her stool. Maybe it doesn't square-up with conventional wisdom among entomologists... but we have the evidence. I've got specimens in alcohol... I've got pictures... now video clips. Prev: We don't have horsies in our backyard to get collembola from. (Kinda wish I had a pony, though.) And I feel sorry for Mr Hurd snorting springtails up his nose. Your logic is sound about insects like to eat fungi. But is that the only explanation that suits my wife's situation? ... just asking. no thats exactly my point. what i meant to express is that .. the "concept" of fungi in hair.. attracts collembola. whether you got it from horses or not. i have not been around a horsie in .. decades. what i'm saying is that fungi can affect cutaneous areas especially those producing keratin..(hair follicles) and what better catalyst than to have those hairs be of a more cellulose makeup, (perfect food for fungi) his "horse experience" may have been the culprit way back when he acquired the fungi in his hair from the horse... but while the "concept".. the "process" is the same.. it may be from a different "source" all together. prep the host with GMO to produce cellulose through plant gene expression through Agrobacterium gene transfer through GMO, then chemtrail-spray exotic fungi and watch the insect fungi-feeding frenzy? this all said.. the insec aspect may very well be just an unavoidable side-effect of converting man from his current metabolism/digestive process.. to a more efficient photosynthesis-based physiology. .... and WHO would "agree" to that? nobody would volunteer... so in the face of imperativeness, considering events of immense magnitude to come ...(link)this may be the only chance to actually insure that evolution and survival succeed at once .just a few thoughts. i don't EVER look at all of this as an "accident" I look at it as a phenomenon that took decades maybe centuries of research and development to produce. -M
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Post by gertie on Aug 15, 2007 2:11:54 GMT -5
I absolutely cannot believe that with all the evidence that you have produced, that the medical community and government agencies aren't breaking down your doors to discover what this is all about. I don't get it. Ya, I am so naive! JoseJ and Kathy, I am so sorry. I know how awful this feels. Thank you so much for trying so hard.
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Post by josej on Aug 15, 2007 7:19:22 GMT -5
Gertie, I appreciate your kind thoughts. And yea, it is scary and makes you feel like you're in a nightmare. But, every person on this board and thousand others are going thru' the same horrible thing. Shame on the powers-that-be for not offering real help!
This is why we keep making noise. We can't go away. KJ and I don't post these images just for the "fun" of it. We share our struggles this way for all to see... to keep our ground swell moving forward... and hopefully so that we can find a cure.
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Post by bugsy on Aug 15, 2007 9:01:20 GMT -5
Hey JoseJ, I don't speak French either. Was just letting you know there is some good information after that stuff. I have always disliked the word "incidental" as well. Just wanted you to see this. Take care. Frye, F.L. Iowa: A literature search revealed an expanding source of information that documents that springtails have become true parasites of a variety of animal hosts even though they lack specialized feeding structures. Once the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia began to investigate pruritic dermatitis of unknown pathogenicity, they found 123 cases. " ~Bugsy
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Post by josej on Aug 15, 2007 9:16:50 GMT -5
Bugsy, Thanks for your links. My comment about "unfriendly discussions" was about derm docs, entomologists, etc., who still hold on to the position that bugs can't inhabit humans. To them, the earth is still flat, I guess. But thank you for your excellent info. I appreciate it.
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Post by felixwillford on Aug 15, 2007 9:32:24 GMT -5
Great Video, Horrible condition for us to be in.
Yes, this is a SHARED NIGHTMARE.
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Post by Sidney on Aug 15, 2007 10:48:44 GMT -5
Bugsy, I believe the F. L. Frye you quote here is the F. L. Frye the NPA was trying to locate back in 1994.
Instead, NPA found Fred L. Frye, Davis, Ca., a retired Veterinary Pathologist, University of California, Davis.
Can you provide a link or any additional information about Collembola as Parasites, published by F. L. Frye of Iowa?
Wonder if this particular F. L. Frye was associated with the University of Iowa or perhaps Grinnell?
Thanks.
Frye, F.L. Iowa:
A literature search revealed an expanding source of information that documents that springtails have become true parasites of a variety of animal hosts even though they lack specialized feeding structures. Once the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia began to investigate pruritic dermatitis of unknown pathogenicity, they found 123 cases. "
~Bugsy[/quote]
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Post by Sidney on Aug 15, 2007 10:53:35 GMT -5
tinyurl.com/25d4m8www.impactpub.com.au/aircargo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=762&Itemid=60 Wednesday, 15 August 2007 There’s a discernable spring in the tail of Australia’s air exporters of perishables. This follows a breakthrough in the ‘springtail’ bug issue which, together with government inaction, had threatened the livelihoods of fruit and vegetable exporters. The last issue of Aircargo Asia-Pacific reported on the negative effect of the Dubai Ministry of Agriculture and Fisheries’ protocol of zero-tolerance of the insect species Collembola Hypogastruridae — better known as the ‘springtail’ — on any green-leafed fruit and vegetable entering the UAE, in particular strawberries and celery, entering the UAE. Any presence of the insect detected during prior to export inspections by the Australian Quarantine Inspection Service (AQIS) invariably resulted in the last-minute rejection of the entire shipment — causing obvious problems to the exporter, airline and overseas buyers.
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Post by morgellonsmoe1 on Aug 15, 2007 11:04:11 GMT -5
This helped me clear off my scalp May or may not be of interest but ID like to share ( everyone found a way here is the one I used and now only when I feel a crawly ( note : I have often wondered if this bug makes fibers like a spider weaves a web many insects do create silk like fibers just a thought )
The gold colored mouthwash like Listerine cheep dollar brand and any other color will dye your hair I tried the blue so no need to re invent that experiment get the gold colored ) This has the kind of alcohol thats not toxic to your liver in minute qualities and it has menthol in it .
This will sting like crazy until your scalp heals so crank music and your soars will burn but will heal as you put this step in your daily routine ) In the beginning you'll do this up to five times a day but eventually you'll only need to as you feel a crawly .. I now maybe have to once a month .
I have a crew cut so adjust for hair length
Take a capful of the mouthwash after you blow dry your hair remember moister keeps fungus alive and reproducing washing your hair with baking soda has helped .
Soak your hair with the mouthwash and use a dog comb called the "sheddender coming your hair head down over the sink to get any dead bugs and fibers out .
This has to be repeated and is tiering to kill off the infection as the different stages hatch and such . My head was covered with sores . It wont happen overnight , and it will depend How long the infection has been there to grow.
I am also on an antibiotic so the stinging sores after a few months could heal with this treatment and not fester with infection .
Others may have done different things , I just wanted to share this way Key is consistency this morgie infection is smart and keeps adapting .. so I have found slacking off makes it worse .Good luck
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Post by prevenge on Aug 15, 2007 11:45:17 GMT -5
i think a REALLY good idea for our own investigation would be to actually DOCUMENT...this..
what to do..
keep the springtails alive.. and under the microscope.. while video taping them..
put them NEAR .. certain "morg specimens" .. especially the clear motile fibers. (i've been getting REAL LONG VERY ACTIVE ONES lately flying off of me)
see if the springtails.. over however long time.. actually go near the speciens.. and whether they actually start to feed on them.
i think this is very important.
if I had a powerful magnifying video-scope.. I would be doing this.
i had two considerably large fleas jump on me yesterday by the way. just.. random tidbit.
so Jose... do you think that you could do something like what I'm saying and document it?
-M
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