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Post by Spunky on Aug 15, 2005 5:59:08 GMT -5
Hi Hope, Glad to know you are healing. Just saw photos on this link and thinking I am going to order the Old Amish Dewormer: www.altcancer.com/oldam4.htmApparently there are more than one type of nematode that can appear as a bundle of fibers. Good day, Spunky
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Post by Spunky on Aug 15, 2005 6:21:57 GMT -5
Noticed the other site just posted (with nematode photos) is no longer operational for selling products, to include the Old Amish Dewormer, but this one does: www.oldamishdewormer.com/site/1259605/page/45029I emailed Amish Abe for advice on dosages for adults and children. Spunky
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Post by Drug PUSHA on Aug 15, 2005 15:30:00 GMT -5
I would rub diatomaceous earth into your skin where you're still having the fiber/black speck problems, especially before you go to bed when they become active. You'll be cured soon enough.
Drug PUSHA
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Post by Drug PUSHA on Aug 15, 2005 15:36:29 GMT -5
PS - To the best of my knowledge you are NOT on the Schwartz protocol (which I'm not a big fan of anyway - he's wrong about the pathogen and got lucky on the combo). That calls for double dosing Avelox and Septra - very dangerous to do without a doctor's supervision, blood work, and probiotic treatment. Avoid alcohol and drink plenty of water if you are double dosing and following that type of hard-core regimine.
Be WELL,
Drug PUSHA
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Post by bugged1 on Aug 16, 2005 2:04:42 GMT -5
TRIED WHAT? why don't you post what IT IS you're taking that's helped you so you can help others? FWIW I don't think Schwartz recommended Cipro. Anyone who wants to try the Schwartz protocol, all I have to say is I hope your kidneys and liver are in good shape first!
CHEMIST G
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Post by Spunky on Aug 16, 2005 5:22:27 GMT -5
Hi Hope, If the momma and babies were too gruesome, then you didn't make it to the next page, where it discusses a symbiotic relationship between nematodes and bugs: www.altcancer.com/oldam5.htmI have come across the Old Amish Dewormer a few times in searching the internet for information about this plague, but someone else had listed the Alpha Omega Labs site on another post. When I got there I found the photos, which further reinforced what I think the causal agent is. Now I am planning to order and force-feed it to everyone in my family. When I first discovered this board, I never came in through the home page. Going back there and reading the research posted is a real eye-opener, especially related to the Plum Island research and the mysterious deaths of the top microbiologists of the world over the past several years. Hat's off to the ladies that put together that info and began this web--what we need now is a government that will acknowledge the consequences of their own doings and assist physicians to help those afflicted. Good luck to us all, Spunky
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Post by Spunky on Aug 16, 2005 5:35:24 GMT -5
Forgot to say the Old Amish Dewormer contains: Single 16 ounce Dewormer Bottle contents: Natural Green Hull Black Walnut, Wormwood, Cloves, Pumpkin, Olive Tree Leaf, Oil of Oregano in a base of pure vegetable glycerine and grain alcohol. Suggested Dosage: As a dietary supplement take One (1) Tablespoon in a glass of water daily about 15 minutes before a meal or as recommended by your health care professional. 16 ounce bottle = $55.00
This company follows Hulda Clark's recipes--notates that on their site.
Spunky
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Post by rickndebby on Aug 17, 2005 16:02:20 GMT -5
Hey Hope, Please understand that no disrespect is intended here but I agree with Chem.....What have you tried??? Why the big secret? Don't think that you are " out of anyones league ".....I was under the impression that we are all pretty much in this together....You have written many posts that have in many ways given alot of people exactly who you say you are...." HOPE "....If someone has been "Blunt with you " let them....It's blunt talk that has been what we have lacked....If it means anything at all we need more artists in the world than chemists....It sounds as if you may be frustrated.....God knows you have a right to be....Keep posting......We wish you Peace, Thanks ..Rick of rickndebby
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Post by Chem G on Aug 18, 2005 3:09:01 GMT -5
I never said you didn't know what you're talkin about Hope! You're obvioulsy on the right track. I felt it necessary to point out tho that you weren't double dosing on the Schwartz protocol tho because, like it or not, if you post how well you're doing then someone is SURE to follow! Capiche??? Believe it or not I care about peeps trying to self-treat themselves. I've said it a number of times before - self treating on antibiotics is dangerous and double dosing is flat out foolish without testing. The Schwartz protocol calls for Avelox (which NO ONE knows enough about yet since it's so new, especially compared to the Cipro you're taking)and Bactrim which can cause a severe allergic reaction/shock/and even death. SO call me silly but YES, I am very concerned when I hear someone touting the benefits of the Schwartz protocol when they aren't actually following something quite as dangerous. I was thinking of others and not of how you would take my response. My posts were NOT directed towards you or your healing but you took them personally and for that I am sorry. And I think we can agree to disagree when it comes to Dr. Scwhartz.
Peace,
G
PS - I still think you should post what you're taking to clear up confusion - I'm not even sure what you're on at this point! And I don't think you'd want anyone hurting themselves doing the exact Schwartz protocol trying to copy your success.
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Post by skytroll on Aug 18, 2005 10:55:52 GMT -5
I think we do not know enough about the cause of this disease, yet. So, I do think we are safer sticking to natural remedies, until we know what is involved, here. Facts would be good. This is what we are after. Now, if Swartz has a protocol that works, then, great, but has he thoroughly identified what this is? I have not read the book. Will do so.
skytroll
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Post by skytroll on Aug 19, 2005 13:35:39 GMT -5
Hope,
Killing yourself is not an option! Period.
I am using no doctors, nothing right now, just good old sweat. Sweating it out.
I may do a colon cleanse, as suggested by Dr. Hulda Clark. It I can get the inside cleaned out the outside may follow, along with the sweat.
Exercise, eat bland food if you have to, put vicks, herbs, whatever. I do think the anitbiotics might be too late. More a helminth/antiobiotic/connective tissue/Thymus type of medication is needed. But, when the cause cannot be found, or will not be found or looked at, then how in the heck do we know if we are being treated correctly?
All power to the FATHER! We need to listen!
Skytroll
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Post by Snot on Aug 19, 2005 14:30:54 GMT -5
All power to the mother too" )0(
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Post by threadbearer on Aug 19, 2005 15:41:58 GMT -5
Skytroll. I have been working out 5 days a week for about three months now. I feel significantly better. Just wanted to let you know. -threadbearer
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Post by skytroll on Aug 19, 2005 17:43:13 GMT -5
Great Threadbearer,
I find the more I exercise the better I feel after the initial pain. No pain, no gain, right?
Hope,
None of us are going to stop until we find out what this curse is. And darn it, why us? Why do we suffer, while we see other folks out there without nary a spot on their beautiful skin?
I am so envious..
Skytroll
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Post by bugged1 on Aug 20, 2005 1:05:35 GMT -5
All I can say is I aint going down with out one hell of a fight! I don't believe that I'm killing myself because I'm getting better. That was said for everyone else that may believe that. I'm getting better = Healing Healing is a good thing. Peace, Hope They say what doesn't kill you will make you stronger. Be strong Hope! Chem G
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