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Post by Tara on Aug 16, 2005 1:18:59 GMT -5
Ok this just dawned on me I have been noticing a lot I maen a lot of birds dead in the streets around my neighbor hood. has anyone seen anything like this around were you live or something strange of this nature that you would not stop to think about? If so do you think that there is a possiblity that what ever has gotten to us is doing the same to the birds and they are killing over into the streets?
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Post by sparkyside2 on Aug 16, 2005 1:31:39 GMT -5
I have not been in my yard/flower gardens this summer as I seem to have enough bugs finding me inside so I don't know about any birds. However, yesterday we had pizza delivered and the pizza lady asked us about the dead opossum on our terrace (about 3 ft. from our door). I thought this really strange since we live in the city limits of our rural southern town. To be more specific 1 mile south of the Court House. We never had any dead animals on our terrace. There is a leash law in our town so I can't imagine a loose dog dragging a dead animal on our terrace. If that had been the case I would think I would have heard some sort of commotion. I left a message on the Dept. of Ag. phone inquiring if they were interested. Of course there was not a return phone call today.
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Post by Tara on Aug 16, 2005 2:57:00 GMT -5
Strange the only time I ever saw a dead or yet alone a live opossum was when I was a kid growing ip in CA and it was eaither in the tree or like you say my dogs mouth. Hey by the way what the heck is up with the damn bug thing I have found more bugs in my house this year since I broke out with lesions all over the I ever had my whole life even ones I never seen before in my life.
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Post by Orion*** on Aug 16, 2005 4:14:53 GMT -5
WNV kills birds--what kind of birds?
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Post by adapted on Aug 16, 2005 7:27:58 GMT -5
www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030329/bob10.aspWest Nile Virus With every surge in human disease, a wave hit wildlife, too (SN: 12/11//99, p. 378: www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/12_11_99/bob1.htm). By the end of 2002, the virus had struck a remarkable range of animals, including both dirt-common ones and nearly extinct species. It infected at least 186 wild and captive bird species, including pigeons, house sparrows, chickens, cardinals, mockingbirds, mallards, parakeets, peacocks, macaws, flamingos, bald eagles, and whooping cranes. The virus had also turned up in 17 other vertebrate species, including cats, dogs, chipmunks, striped skunks, bats, and alpacas. The range of animals that pick up the virus and the breadth of its geographic spread have squelched any hope of getting rid of it. Even though it appeared in New York only 4 years ago, Daszak concludes, "West Nile virus is here to stay in North America." What's the catch? To start figuring out how the virus will transform wildlife of the Americas, researchers have been delving into the details of how animals pick up the virus. Although biologists have known for decades that mosquitoes are an important carrier, it now looks as if mosquito bites don't tell the whole story. Nicholas Komar of the CDC branch in Fort Collins, Colorado also documented mosquito-free ways for birds to catch the virus. It passed by direct bird-to-bird contact in four species—blue jay, American crow, black-billed magpie, and ring-billed gull—Komar says. His team also observed birds in five species—great horned owl, common grackle, house finch, American crow, and house sparrow—picking up the virus just by eating a bit of infected flesh or even infected mosquitoes. Biologists suspect that migrating birds are spreading West Nile virus. They are "excellent candidates," says Marra, but "there has yet to be an actively migrating bird found with live virus." environmentalrisk.cornell.edu/WNV/Summary2.cfmThe CDC list of mosquito species that have tested WNV-positive in the United States includes, as of Oct 21 2002: Aedes species: Aedes albopictus, Aedes aegypti, Aedes vexans, Aedes cinereus; Anopheles species: Anopheles barberi, Anopheles atropos, Anopheles crucians/bradleyi, Anopheles punctipennis Anopheles quadrimaculatus, Anopheles walkeri Coquillettidia species: Coquillettidia perturbans; Culiseta species: Culiseta inornata, Culiseta melanura; Culex species: Culex abominator, Culex erraticus, Culex nigripalpus, Culex pipiens, Culex quinquefasciatus, Culex restuans, Culex salinarius, Culex tarsalis, Culex territans; Deinocerites species: Deinocerites cancer; Ochlerotatus species: Ochlerotatus atropalpus, Ochlerotatus atlanticus/tormentor, Ochlerotatus canadensis, Ochlerotatus cantator, Ochlerotatus japonicus, Ochlerotatus sollicitans, Ochlerotatus taeniorhynchus, Ochlerotatus triseriatus, Ochlerotatus trivittatus Orthopodomyia species: Orthopodomyia signifera. [Note that species in the genus Ochlerotatus were previously classified as Aedes]. That's a lot more mosquito sub species than I even knew existed here in the states.
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Post by TonyM on Aug 16, 2005 10:18:35 GMT -5
Yeah,
Sounds like WNV to me. Keep an eye out for standing water outside the home/around home, WNV can kill a human, and usual onset is flu-like or cold-like symptoms. If you get bitten by one with WNV, and start feeling not too normal the first few days, i wouldn't take that long in the first place. In CA, like abunch of people died last year from WNV. Make sure you get rid of any standing water outside the home, that the best way to protect yourself in the beginning. Second, remember what to do to protect yourself against masquito bites. Best of Luck in finding out, have the birds tested, your city should jump on this as they do here in Cali.
TonyM
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Post by skytroll on Aug 16, 2005 10:33:52 GMT -5
Hello,
The animals are warning us. We so desperately need to listen truly to nature. The answers are there. Just look at what is happening to fish, whales, birds, insects, the earth itself.
God gives us messages.
Skytroll
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Post by JohnLIB on Aug 16, 2005 10:51:27 GMT -5
Hello, The animals are warning us. We so desperately need to listen truly to nature. The answers are there. Just look at what is happening to fish, whales, birds, insects, the earth itself. God gives us messages. Skytroll I live in the rural south on several acres, fields, creek and woods. I have not seen one grasshopper this summer; lots of crickets but no grasshoppers. Several years ago I could walk through my field and would see hundreds of grasshoppers. Species specific pesticides? ? Lesser is Better John
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Post by skytroll on Aug 16, 2005 10:55:27 GMT -5
John,
mycoplasmas
skytroll
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Post by Tara on Aug 16, 2005 18:12:04 GMT -5
What I have been finding are pigeons infact today I was driving down the street and on fell lifeless on the top of my car. it was dead before it hit. whats going on I feel like everything around here is dying. My cat my neighbors cat the birds. this is freaking me out.
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Post by dave on Aug 16, 2005 23:11:23 GMT -5
the first qustion id be asking is why isent the cdc jumping around like frogs all over where you live. another qustion is a few years ago around 2 or so some dept down sout turned loose a butt load of lady bugs and im talking billions and said because it was due to the lack of lady bugs but i now think about what they eat aphids hummm who knows about that idea but every spring and fall my house is full of ladybugs. there harless so i dont kill them but why did the ladybugs die off in the first place? but anyhows you should report the mass deaths of birds to the cdc because something isent right. i raise piegons and havent had any problems with mortality. as a matter of fact i have a new egg layed today i have 18 pigeons of many different typs and some are rare that im trying to resupply to the wild. so be carefull about picking up any dead birds because you could contract what they have gotten. dave
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Post by ebgbgms on Aug 17, 2005 0:34:34 GMT -5
From what I was reading in Mo. they will only check certain counties when they r reported. I read this a few days ago and the ones they did test had West Nile. So, even if u call and report however many, they only do what they want to do. One case close to here of WN too. What the heck is the difference in counties, they don't live in them? makes me wonder.
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Post by jj on Aug 17, 2005 15:14:51 GMT -5
After spraying for WNV (yrs ago in NYC) is when I started spiraling downhill. I could smell it and see the fog seeping through the cracks around my windows. The next morning I had a splitting headache and felt like a zombie. Couldn't concentrate, my speech was slurred, and I felt downright ill. It was almost a week before these symptoms subsided. During that time the allover creepy crawlies started and the freckles started appearing (even in places the sun don't shine. For me, I know this spraying caused my immune system to faulter, my skin being the most obvious affected. Things haven't been the same since. ............. Spraying is going on around here now. They state it is harmless and one just needs to stay inside with windows closed and tell the kids to wait for half an hour before going outside to play. They have no idea what they are dealing with. At least we have No Spray activists around so people are aware of the possible dangers. I for one will raise hell if they try to spray in my neiborhood. ............... Still hangin, JJ
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Post by Intopeace on Aug 19, 2005 2:24:12 GMT -5
I can answer the WNV. I have it. I contracted WNV 18 months prior to CDC findings or any known virus called West Nile Virus. I had Meningitis Encyphelitis (viral) was in hospital for 7 days. No actual "medicines" were given. Just pain meds (head) and fluids for dehydration. I contracted it early 1997. I wrote health departments, CDC, Government etc. I still have all correspondance from them. At that time, I was told no blood tests or any type of tests were available to diagnosis. A Spinal Tap while hospitalized showed the Meningitis. Believe me, they did the spinal test last after hours of others. I thought I had a brain tumor. I was BLESSED to find my true answer to the last 7 months of SHEER hell when I found this website last night 08-17-2005. The Mental aspect kept me on a natural surreal high today as I walk around with complete hairloss still. But, compared to the torture of all the other effects of Morgellons I will deal with the hair loss. Good Luck to all and do NOT give up.
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