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Post by suelauer on Aug 16, 2005 20:26:34 GMT -5
My family of six had the creepy/crawly biting, stinging itching sensations for over two years before I requested a blood test for Strongyloides, a microscopic intestinal worm (first cousin to hookworm) which is able to live off of your body for three weeks without a meal and pierces through your skin on your feet or crawls up until it finds a pore or hair follicle. It leaves small pimple-like red bumps where it enters. It can be treated with medication (ivermectin)(we are still being treated). It has been a slow process of healing and killing off the populations in our bodies and our environments but it is working and we are finally feeling results. It got in the textiles of our house, our car, our work, etc. At least three other households have tested positive who have come into contact with us. The parasite is subtropical to tropical and thrives in the systems of people whose immune systems have been compromised (e.g. Lyme). We got it from a pet gecko. You could get it from walking on soil or sand contaminated with fecal material. We live in Pennsylvania, so the docs have been quite surprised by our positive test results. I would not be surprised if this is the key to many of the symptoms of Morgellon's patients. I hope this helps someone. Good luck!
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Post by Spunky on Aug 16, 2005 20:59:25 GMT -5
Hi,
I have felt my infection was possibly Stronglyoides because of the multi-stage life cycle, vecored by lice.
How are you treating your environment? Are they monitoring liver enzymes with the Ivermectin? Any side or detrimental effects? Is it working?
Did you try herbal dewormer before Ivermectin? How old are your children?
I find it very strange the numbers of people who are suddenly afflicted with the same symptoms--too strange for coincidence, especially as widespread across the country as it is.
Thanks very much for your response.
Spunky
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Post by suelauer on Aug 16, 2005 21:10:34 GMT -5
We tried an herbal parasite remedy, along with garlic and also Pyrantel Pamoate (available OTC), all with not much success. My house is treated monthly with a pesticide that would cover a flea infestation. Also, I took up all the rugs and drapes, had them cleaned, wrapped and put away. The mattresses and pillows are all encased in plastic. I bought new pillows and taped up the plastic bags they came in, poking small air holes so they don't pop when you lay on them. I use a Europro Shark steamer periodically on the upholstered furniture and the cars. I wash the laundry in "Melapower" and put "Solumel" in the fabric softener dispenser. These are products that I buy from "melaleuca" an amway-like company with which I am now a registered salesperson (although I am my only customer). The products are made with tea tree oil. Also, a 15% tea tree oil solution sold online at Puritan.com seems to provide temporary external relief from the itching. I read a medical study extolling its benefits for scabies back when that's what i thought we had. Get the blood test, it's a simple answer to a complicated question.
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Post by ToSue on Aug 16, 2005 21:23:29 GMT -5
Could you please share the exact test you and your family were given that resulted in this diagnosis?
A specific antibody test or anything else that would help us know exactly what we should request of our physician would be most helpful. Thank you so much.
This is the best news I've heard in a long time and could definitely account for the reason the various beasties have been attracted to many of us and found in our lesions or on our skin.
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Post by Spunky on Aug 16, 2005 21:29:43 GMT -5
Hi Sue,
Thanks very much for your rapid response. What appears to be a simple answer may, in fact, not be. THE REAL QUESTION IS, why is this disease now apparently spreading so rampantly among wildlife and humans across our country?
That, my friend, is where the true horror may begin.
I will try the Old Amish Dewormer, the herbs, and the Zapper first--seeing improvement thus far. If those measures fails, I will need to make a decision on the prescriptive meds--and hope the parasites can be eliminated without damage to their host (do not tolerate many meds very well).
I would possibly like to purchase the Melaleuca products for laundry and cleaning (and potentially become my own sole distributor). Is there a website?
Spunky
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Post by To Sue on Aug 17, 2005 0:14:26 GMT -5
Another question for you, Sue.
Would you be willing to share the name of the laboratory where your blood was sent.
Also, still need to know what tests were used to determine your diagnosis.
Please share everything you can regarding your diagnosis, treatment protocol, etc.
Many thanks.
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Post by Orion*** on Aug 17, 2005 1:22:59 GMT -5
I made a post here about an hr. ago--I wonder where it went?
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Post by Orion*** on Aug 17, 2005 4:56:32 GMT -5
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Post by Spec on Aug 17, 2005 5:48:00 GMT -5
Hello Sue,
Thanks for your post, it will really help others to share the concept with their doctors, when there is someone else who has already gone this route. Really helps open the doctors up to these possibilities! Encouraging too if they feel a lab may be able to really do a good job!
Spunky and Orion;
I am using a product called BioSil, which is silica, liquid very absorbable. This should help you Orion, in getting the calcium in your blood and available for the bones. Read the package insert for this stuff, made by Jarrow.
BioSil is made by Jarrow.
After using it, I looked online and found a few websites selling a "silica, silver and gold" blend, which creates harmonics intolerable to the bugs! (I guess much like the Rife machine). I have seen a bottle sold for $29.00 at one site, but lost that address.
Here is one I kept, I liked the write-up, but they also offer some more expensive and extensive treatments. I am thinking of getting the $29.00 bottle sometime soon.
On another related topic, I realized the Artemesia or whatever that is called, for the babesia, is commonly called wormwood. For some reason, the Lyme Photos people were not in favor of using it together with the salt/ c, I don't know why, so it has been sitting here. Anyway, I decided to use it the last couple of days, and yuck, a lot of nasty stuff is leaving the lesions. Apparently dying, alot of "stuff" is still very deeply embedded. I also used the ivermectin paste externally, which may be a part of this exodus, but the Wormwood seems to be making a direct strike.
spec
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Post by Spunky on Aug 17, 2005 6:22:07 GMT -5
Thanks, Spec, Orion, and Sue! Here is the CDC page that illustrates the Stongyloides life cycle: www.dpd.cdc.gov/dpdx/HTML/Strongyloidiasis.htmI am taking silica now (along with wormwood, silver, oil of oregano, olive leaf, now TOA free cat's claw, greens, aloe, and other vitamins), but not the BioSil--will see if my local health store carries it and read more about it later. Have a great day! Spunky
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Post by sue on Aug 17, 2005 8:39:10 GMT -5
The name of the blood test is Strongyloides Igg. It is a test for antibodies. My simple HMO lab sent it out to a lab in CA called Focus Diagnostics.
In answer to the other question about why these beasties are just now attacking us, i have a theory, but it is not proven. I have not been tested for this but will request it the next time my blood is taken. There is another retrovirus called HTLV which is sexually transmitted and also through birth/nursing occasionally. It is much more common among asians, esp. in Japan. Donated blood is routinely screened for this today. Only one in 20 individuals with this virus are ever affected and it can cause leukemia/lymphoma. It unfortunately also allows illnesses that would normally be easily thrown off to become problematic. My mother died last year of a T-cell Non-Hodgikins lymphoma and my dad was in the Army in Japan. I t may be that Me or my family has this. I need to be tested for this virus as well the next time around when I have blood drawn after 6 months for the Strongyloides. Good luck everyone!
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Post by sue on Aug 17, 2005 10:07:08 GMT -5
just realized i didn't answer all of your question. I don't know why this is plaguing all of us, but i know one thing. This is MUCH more contagious than any of the literature would lead you to belive. We spread it to six households that i know of. Three of them were able to get rid of it and three are being treated. None of us have been stepping in fecal material, though. This may be a different strain. We had a leopard gecko (a desert lizard-not tropical) in the house when all this began and this illness is something they get. It may be that that this strain does not require moisture in its environment (i.e. it's used to sand), so our textiles provided a comfortable environment. These animals and others like them may be a big mistake to have in our homes. Then again, I spent a lot of time on the herp websites and never heard discussion at all about these types of symptoms, so he may not have been the cause. The beach and most resorts i have been to recently are largely staffed by foreigners. this illness may be more common in other countries. It is very common in Australia, but the resort workers are usually not from there. in response to the melaleuca question, i think their website is melaleuca.com. you need to join, though. it costs $29 to join, and then you need to order a minimum amount of products per month, not hard to do when you have this problem, though.
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Post by skytroll on Aug 17, 2005 11:23:53 GMT -5
hello,
Great thread and thanks for the info on labs and blood tests.
My son is from South Korea and constantly has loose stools and bumps, which he calls pimples, he uses acne cream on them and they heal, but, takes a long time.
The soldiers are bringing back things from the Middle East.
Read my link on my thread: Theories. The Bearden report. Cheniere. He was in the Army and on pgs 33=44 an explanation of immune system spreading can invite all kinds of pathogens.
The Middle East, Egypt especially has onchocerciasis, leishmaniasis is in Yemen. Etc. Strongyloidosis is in Middle East and in Asia, and South America.
If a fly, cyclops, black fly or sand fly bites a person with this and bites you, you have it, or it is spread by toilets, through feet etc.
The CDC is not looking at things brought into this country by servicemen whose immune systems have spread as Bearden says.
Bioweapons experiments have devastated many.
We need to pray that our servicemen come back healthy and that they will be protected in all ways.
Skytroll
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Post by Sue on Aug 17, 2005 12:30:45 GMT -5
I was referred to your website by the folks at Kleen free. I am currently battling a problem , originally I thought was fleas from our dog-who, last summer, had become very ill with diabetes/pancreatitis weight loss, and complictions of-she developed fleas for the first time, just before she died, and we thought that was what was causing the itchies and biting/stinging sensations ( fleas must have gotten into the carpeting and on sofas...).Or could it be from birds, rabbits/opposums-out in the yard? Pet budgie or canarywe had befor?
Mostly, I am affected. I am diabetic and what ever this is loves me most. I've cleaned with bleach,20 Muleteam Borax on clothes, for carpet, furniture.I've tried Permethin, baby oil, peppermint oil directly on me, witch hazel, rubbing alcohol, took msm, wormwood combo, tea tree oil, &so much more. I rubbed vasoline all aver my skin last night after applying tea tree oil previously and when I tried to sleep, as usual, I felt something on my skin, rubbed vigorously and found specs of black and cream colored like particles and thread like greyish things-visable to the eye! (So Gross!!!) I showered and shaved again -during the night, in Dial but this morning the sensations are back. I ordered some enzymes to clean with .I'm so tired. I can't sleep. I went to a Dermatologist about a year ago and he poo-pooed my symptoms even when I showed him specs of grey stuff and bite marks-he said "bug bomb the house" , and treated my daughter and I as if we were nutty.
I feel that these are inside me and in my skin-esp. active in genital area at night-itching /biting. I have red pimply skin and big red welt like areas and it's mainly waist down and on my arms. My legs and arms look bug bitten and I'm embarrassed to go out and my kids are embarrassed about me and think it is something to do with diabetes and I should go to a doctor.( Expensive) As to ADHD-all three of our kids areADD/ADHD, they have mood disorders,? bi polar?, anxiety, learning disabilities-fuzzyness-concentration difficulties. The depression/mood thing, tiredness affects us all. We've been to tradition docs for those things-put on meds for ADD/anxiety etc, but maybe there's a reason beyond-like parasites) they don't realize?
I'm tired all the time, so I need to solve this. School starts soon, and often the kids are too tired, depressed, headachey, to go to school or pay attention. I'm too tired to work some days.I don't want to put them on Ridlin or such and treat the wrong problem.
Can someone help us, please?Is there a definative solution , if so, what? Should we tear up the carpets? Get rid of cloth covered sofas? Get blood tests/ Any truly effective meds?
Also, we are not dirty people, we live in a nice clean home and nice neighboorhood in the North, not Florida, or CA where people complain of it.. No one is in the military -though we have had visiting relatives that were years ago. Don't know where it came from but I want it gone! Thanks, Sue
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Post by skytroll on Aug 17, 2005 14:00:57 GMT -5
Put a fan on, spray with a mixture of tea tree oil and eucaplytus on couches, floor etc.
Many natural products to use.
See herbal remedies thread.
skytroll
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Post by threadbearer on Aug 17, 2005 15:10:54 GMT -5
Okay, I have the pimple like sores every now and then (esp when I wear tight clothing), definetely no lesions. I have the white pasty stuff in my mouth especially in the morning 30 minutes after eating. I have threads. Blue, Red and White. The threads disappeared when I was on antibiotics, but came back when I stopped taking them. I had palpitations extremely bad back in January. I took antibiotics and got rid of the palpitations for a while. Then they came back, but not as strong. I have started taking 500mg Vermox for 5 days. Two before full moon, one during and two more after full moon. This regimen has stopped the palpitations. There is a connection here.
Why don't we take invermectin to get rid of the worms, and then start dosing antibiotics to get rid of the threads? Anyone tried this??
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Post by sue from PA on Aug 17, 2005 16:23:43 GMT -5
RE: What do i do?
I definitely empathize, we went through all of this. I think because you are diabetic, your immune system is slightly less able perhaps to battle this. Go to your doctor and get the blood test. Insecticides are okay when used at reasonable intervals, also HEPA filters, laundry additives, but NONE of these things will provide relief for very long since they're coming from your gut. Get the blood test for Strongyloides Igg and ask your doctor or infectious disease specialist for pharmaceutical help when you receive the results. Have everyone in your house tested and treat everyone in your house simultaneously, whether or not they turn out positive (otherwise they may be attacked while everyone else is being treated. Best wishes.
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Post by wolfe1 on Aug 17, 2005 19:17:18 GMT -5
Threadbearer, I can't believe it, yet another symptom. I have been feeling really horrible these past few days. I am in an active cycle with my morgmonsters. I also have the pasty white stuff in my mouth in the morning. after 4 years, this is a new symptom for me. I have very good oral heigine but this is baffling. I used crest strips and they hated it even had bigger things come out on my tongue. I now have some brown ,bigger than pepper specs, in the corners of my mouth when I am at work. If the crest strips aggrivated them Then I'll bet swishing out the mouth with deluted hydro. peroxide would be helpful. I'll try and let you know. Today at school (work-day0 no kids many of the teachers were walking around barefoot. I cringed because I wipe my feet and toes with a wet towwlette several times a day and they are always there. I think school is where I got this stuff. wolfe1
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Post by skytroll on Aug 17, 2005 19:21:35 GMT -5
Wolfe1 and threadbearer,
I use Toms toothpaste. It doesn't have Flouride in it. I think the Flouride makes it worse.
I haven't had any gum problems and white stuff and the fibers in the gums, like carnicom had. It helps. The peppermint is great. I think the peppermint has an action all it's own, too.
Hang in there,
Skytroll
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Post by Suspicious on Aug 18, 2005 15:32:34 GMT -5
I wash the laundry in "Melapower" and put "Solumel" in the fabric softener dispenser. These are products that I buy from "melaleuca" an amway-like company with which I am now a registered salesperson (although I am my only customer).
This seems like a sales pitch for Melaleuca. I know one when I see it. You see symptoms like ADD, itching, etc and then use vague info to get gullible people to buy these additional side products.
I don't like this one bit. If you were really sick and had morgellons, I believe you would have spent more time talking about the symptoms and the way you've alleviated them. You seemed to spend more time talking about the company for which now you're a registered sales person but the "only member". This isn't just a microscopic intestinal worm. Wouldn't we have heard about that by now, after more than a decade of research? I'd think so!
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