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Post by grady on Nov 26, 2007 11:57:38 GMT -5
I mean no disrespect, I know at various times many of us our deperately ill, but if Morgellons is nematodes why aren't we dying, I hear time and time again from folks that have had for 10+ years or more and are managing along just fine (of course, they still have it). Any thoughts on this?
I've read JWF's posts, and am so jealous, how was he cured. I just don't see how a strong immune system can beat nematodes? I want out of this mess people, my kids have it but not bad, but how long before it gets bad. Is anyone ever going to help us?
I'm sorry for the biblical reference but I need to talk. I am a real believer in the God of the bible but feel He has abandoned me? What purpose can this serve? It's so horrible and He wont answer my prayer. I think I'm going to have to take Fenbendazole. Last night I was reading the book of Hebrews, specifically when I read Chapter 6 verse 4.
It is impossible for those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, who have shared in the Holy Spirit, who have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the coming age, if they fall away, to be brought back to repentance, because to their loss they are crucifying the Son of God all over again and subjecting him to public disgrace.
I feel like this is me, fallen away, I haven't been in touch with God these past few years, perhaps he cannot even hear my prayers because I have fallen away, I'm lost. I so desperately want to go back in time, before this all began, I don't want to be in this mess, I am not strong enough. Where is God? I want to be a little boy again, playing in my front yard, safe, and loved.
I'm sorry everyone. Does anybody know why generally we not dying of this?
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Post by godog on Nov 26, 2007 12:20:52 GMT -5
I believe in the power of God, the LoveSource or whatever you want to call it. I am satisfied to know that I will never understand the ways of the universe or why we are born to suffer. I just ask for the stength to live the life I am dealt with some semblance of dignity and happiness. I have a roof over my head, my family is all doing fairly well, and I am not dead, so I will cheer up and struggle on. To be mad at God or say he has abandon you is not productive. Just praise the Lord a bomb hasn't fallen on your roof and you have a warm bed and quit whining. Feeling sorry for yourself is something we all do, have a good cry and suck it up and move on. You can control your thoughts and emotions and choose to be happy. I choose to be happy. Suffering apparantly is part of the deal of living on this planet, no one gets out alive or lives without pain and suffering. Enjoy the beauty around you for as long as you can and that's it. Try to be a good person and someone others enjoy, do not be negative. Some people think thought produces form, if that's the case, we need to think happy thoughts. It's corny, but I feel it doesn't do anygood to constantly be negative. I would rather enjoy the day. Seize The Day, so to speak. I don't mean to sound "holier than thou" or mean spirited and I'm not necesarily talking to you when I say whine. I'm just saying, we all whine at times and we are ready to listen to anyone vent. But, for the most part, negativity is our enemy as stress greatly affects us, or me anyway. And, no, I do not know why I am still alive, but I'm glad and I intend to enjoy it as much as possible!!!!! So, have a drink, or a smoke or go play bingo, whatever blows your skirt up and say YaY!!!!!!!!!!!! But, that is a good question. Actually, I think it is because it is a parasitical disease, or condition. So, it does the parasite no good to kill the host. We are the host, to be sucked off of.
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Post by lilsissy on Nov 26, 2007 12:37:58 GMT -5
Grady, Hold on I will get back with you on this one. I too have fallen away and came back to a savior with open arms. God loves us more than earthly fathers! Would you repeatedly forgive your son? God is very graceful do not cut his mercy short. Those who feel that they commit no sin are in trouble more than whose who feel they fall short. All have fallen short of the glory of God. It is by Grace we are saved and grace will lead us home. Remember he choose you before you choose him. We do go through a lot in this life but that does not mean that God is not with us!!!!! What we suffer here is temporary God knows that this will pass and a new day we will one day walk in! Hold on Grady put your questions and trauma under the blood of Jesus who created you. He will never abandon you!!! The enemy deceives us with the thought that our sin is stronger than his love and design for our reclamation. It is possible to totally turn to darkness but it is not easy to do . Forgives is something like 7 times seventy and always renewable if the creator decides to create more. This is the time before the great tribulation. Our redeemer suffered maybe we will too , I do not know? Maybe he will summon us out? Maybe today you should just hold up your arms too him and feel his love.
Satan is not as chaining as Jesus is reclaiming!
Giving Thanks to God and Jesus is something I found chases away the Enemy .
Praying and thanking God for a believer here who is not afaird to speak his mind or soul ! We need more of this!!!!!!
Jennifer
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Post by toni on Nov 26, 2007 13:02:01 GMT -5
Godog and Jennifer, thank you for all you've written. You really touched home with all you said!
Grady, I think we all can understand how you feel. We feel that too. (WE REALLY DO) just like you said.
And no matter what age one gets whether we're 1 or 101 years old, we still have those moments that we wished we were young, or a small child, with out responsibilities or problems, and it's wonderful to remember when all was fine because life seemed like such a SAFE place.
That's all we're wanting now too...that "safe feeling".
The rest we can plow though cause life is hard but we all manage somehow we do survive, and it's cause of our "will" that we do.
I believe in GOD too, and I do believe GOD helps those who help themselves....meaning we must never lose hope or faith or belief in ( ourselves) .
That's where GOD gives us strength to keep on keepin on, when we believe in ourself, because that is the gift, each one of us is life, and just simply KNOWING that GOD is always there no matter what, and when you ((( trust ))) that, when you (((really know ))) that inside you, you'll be fine, no matter what happens with you, or around you.
I think it's when we "lose ourselves" again meaning we lose our hope and faith in ourselves, then we let our beliefs too get lost, then we feel helpless, and that too sometimes causes our minds to realize it's now time to get back in touch with what is real. And real may be GOD to you and your faith and belief, or the energy you feel that surrounds you. That all is what makes us us. That's what we hang on to in the thick or thin of this existence.
But God isn't abandoning anyone, or punishing anyone. We are simply victims, and we will get through this. Just do all you can to keep yourself physically healthy, and your mind healthy with good loving thoughts, and happy thoughts too...and remembering how it was to be a child all safe and sound - those are wonderful strong thoughts, and they're in your memory so that you CAN reflect on them. We are suppose to remember.
Think of that now, that you truly are safe, because GOD is with you even if you feel as you said...(that you've fallen away) - God hasn't fallen away no matter how you're feeling, God just wants you to know that, whether life is harder than hell rough or easy as pie, just be happy for your life and you WILL feel stronger and you will feel GOD's love too.
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Post by prevenge on Nov 26, 2007 19:48:18 GMT -5
aside from all the god stuff.. the reason you aren't dying is that there are two types of biological weaponry .. that which is developed to be LETHAL .. and that which is developed to DISABLE. this is a DISABLING bioweapon.. disabling to the "soft weaponry" protocol .. as to which it is stealthly and goes relatively undercover.. to the populace at large.. and additionally.. can do a more efficient job of it's purpose.. which is not only to DISABLE.. on all fronts.. physical/mental/emotional/financial.. but to accumulate to such an extent over time that it causes the HOST (you) .. to be more prone than not.. (as opposed to if you were not infected) .. more prone than not to .. destroy yourself eventually. Watch the film Zietgiest. understand the manufactured reality you've accepted through written word and word of mouth. stage6.divx.com/LoneWolf/video/1733656/Zeitgeist-The-Spirit-Of-The-Age-M -M
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Post by grady on Nov 26, 2007 20:40:01 GMT -5
Well, to heck with them, I'm fighting tooth and nail, if not for me then for my kids, thank you everyone for your comments, I feel stronger already !
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Post by lilsissy on Nov 26, 2007 21:09:27 GMT -5
Thank You Grady and Thank You Jesus! Jennifer
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Post by morgellonsmoe on Nov 26, 2007 21:25:46 GMT -5
Prevenge great site! I knew for years 911 was a demolition you can see that . I just keep hearing that old song after seeing this movie. " this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius "
I agree with you in the fact that it's much easier to control a disabled population and get money when there is no other solution , than to control a dead population . dead people do not work their fingers to the bone for relief . Disabled people do though especially as we have been told with many illnesses "there is no treatment or cure" think about the money spent by disabled people compared to well ones or for that matter dead people ..makes sense
Scull and bones movie is on that site too Prevenge thanks
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Post by prevenge on Nov 26, 2007 21:53:00 GMT -5
Prevenge great site! I knew for years 911 was a demolition you can see that . I just keep hearing that old song after seeing this movie. " this is the dawning of the age of Aquarius " I agree with you in the fact that it's much easier to control a disabled population and get money when there is no other solution , than to control a dead population . dead people do not work their fingers to the bone for relief . Disabled people do though especially as we have been told with many illnesses "there is no treatment or cure" think about the money spent by disabled people compared to well ones or for that matter dead people ..makes sense Scull and bones movie is on that site too Prevenge thanks its all about deriving the most efficiency out of any situation you invest in. there is money and energy and years of research invested into development of biological weapons. you may see them up front as "biological weapons" - things to destroy an enemy.. or "biological weapons" - things to learn from in order to defend yourself from an enemy.. right now the decline of the America as we know it.. is the primary goal.. and this is a disabling weapon that causes individuals what? causes them to be further in debt.. suppresses their ability to be actionable to whatever percieved "cause" they may adhere to.. and with the OBVIOUSLY purposeful denial of it's existence... causes individuals to be labeled as DELUSIONAL.. and MENTALLY ILL.. there for priming them t obe test subjects.. or prime candidates for pharmeceutical treatment. just look at it for what it IS NOW... its (obvioulsy to us) a pathogen... what happens when you report it..? labelled DELUSIONAL. and you... A) have your children taken from you.. B) locked up for psychiatric study and experimentation with psychiatric drugs.. C) forced into a never ending cycle of denying your problem... and fall further into a downward spiral of debt.. financial discourse.. emotional abuse.. mental torture... THESE are the EFFECTS of morgellons. whether you like it or not.. THESE are the ACTUAL FACTS... WORLDWIDE.. THESE RESULTS..is what we ALL are experiencing .. are those DESIRED RESULTS? naaah prevenge its just some "thing" that "evolved" and just.. you knowww just came into our wold and people just are too dumb to see duuh duuh.. yeah prevenge .. thats what i think... look at the results.. look at .. what we all .. within our society.. have to face... follow the money... follow the results... children taken away.. you're put on psychotropic drugs... you're labeled insane.. isolated. regurgitated from the system. THESE are the EFFECTS of morgellons... yet you stick tried and true to .. it's "god testing us" .. or "these genious scientists in global pharmaceutical companies know everything about parasites and viruses but think you're crazy.." or "the mainstream media has been raving about BIOLOGICAL WARFARE for the past 6 years since 9/11" but it couldn't be THAT... (foreignly blamed or domestically origionated)... nah.. it's just a bug that we've yet to discover and we're just having a hard time convincing people that it's real.. B effing S. WAKE UP. look at the EFFECTS the RESULTS it PRODUCES...... children taken from you.. psychological drugs rammed down your throat.. Financial ruin.. these are not RESULTS these are GOALS that are ACHIEVED through this process.[/size] and you know whaty.. as much as I've studied the NWO and the proccesses involved in this all... I see it as completely logical as to the next stage humanity has to take.. AND methods used. it just sucks to be on the chit end of the stick .. get rid of it and get OUT while you still can. learn how to live in the new world that's coming VERY fast around the corner friends.. it's not for the weak. get strong. (i'll take my own advice thanks) -M
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Post by godog on Nov 26, 2007 22:51:49 GMT -5
Well, maybe it's easier for some people to relate to the "god stuff" then the Chicken Little - The Sky Is Falling stuff.
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Post by robertalouise26 on Nov 26, 2007 23:42:03 GMT -5
Dear prevenge and excellent post!!! Thank you so much!!! Very best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by prevenge on Nov 27, 2007 0:02:30 GMT -5
Well, maybe it's easier for some people to relate to the "god stuff" then the Chicken Little - The Sky Is Falling stuff. They're spraying death on you. and you know it. and "god' isn't stopping it. It's falling.. out.. of the sky.. the sky is falling.. .......aaaaaaand that's where your concern should be. thanks for bringing up that analogy. it's exactly what's needed to get people's attention. because.. LITERALLY.. the SKY is FALLING.. and what is falling? material that you inhale.. or ingest.. and.. um.. makes your life a living hell.it's falling out of the sky. the sky is falling. any questions? in my opinion.. your idea you've developed through your life of "God" will not voluntarily help you physically. maybee the feeling of comfort of unconditional love it brings may lower your stress hormones and cause your body to heal better.. but.. I do not think that an imaginary idea of a man in clouds will save me from a biological warfare agent. He didn't help the massive piles of corpses in the Auschwitz Camps in Nazi Germany, He isn't helping the massive amounts of people being hacked to death with machetes in Darfur, Africa. He isn't helping the people being picked up in the "Death Van" in Communist China because they talk against their government.. And he SURE as hell isn't informing his believers about all the atrocities in this world that are occurring. I think it's dangerous to hang on to belief in god saving you... and spend more time and energy in focusing on our fellow man and the unimaginable, and undiscovered strength and creative power within each of us to help one another. I believe in YOU, dear friend... YOU. -M
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Post by robertalouise26 on Nov 27, 2007 0:14:06 GMT -5
Dear prevenge another excellent post.!!!! Very best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by godog on Nov 27, 2007 0:21:32 GMT -5
Prevenge, I agree with you, but you are only half right. The powers that seek to rule the world worship Lucifer. What do you think the flip side of that coin is? How can you say that there are forces, people who want to destroy us, to rule the world, and I agree. But, you are ignoring, or dismissing an important part of the explanation. You dismiss "god stuff", and make it seem like childish fantasy when it is exactly what's going on. If you dig deep enough into what is going on in the world, you will find Satan worshiping people, intergenerational familys, powerful families that have run the world for centurys and these people worship Satan. Yes, my question is how can you just make light of people's faith and beliefs and you think you know the answer to the question of why we are sick, why the world is sick, but you only got half the answer. You are wrong to so casually dismiss the "god stuff", you need to research some more. Look on the dollar bill, you will see the "evil eye" in the pyrimid, sp, and the latin words that I think mean One World Order, but what does the eye mean? It's the evil eye, the devil. These people worship satan, lucifer, old scratch, beelzebub or whatever you want to call it. I'm tired and I'm not intelligent enough or articulate enough to really make a good arguement at the moment, but you need read some more. And for some reason it bugs me that you didn't even capitilize the g in God. My question, do you not believe in God?
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Post by godog on Nov 27, 2007 0:26:49 GMT -5
You know Prevenge, I don't like you. You are just a smug little man. You may be right about some stuff, but you sit on your high horse and pontificate and you are just a not nice person. You always wind up being yourself, which is rude. And even though you really haven't been rude to me this time, I just don't like your "I'm so smart and everyone else is not as smart as I am" attitude. You are just an average man, I imagine. And probably not as nice as some men. So you may even be less than average.
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Post by lilsissy on Nov 27, 2007 0:30:06 GMT -5
He will stop it one day ! He will stop it one day for all eternity! He will lock evil away and will be justified to keep it there forever . I agree they are spraying death on us but I do believe in Miracles, I am one! I have seen them ! He is not just in the sky but in the hearts of men ! Jennifer
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Post by prevenge on Nov 27, 2007 0:36:52 GMT -5
the individuals that worship "Satan" or "Lucifer" do so in a tongue-in-cheek method.
The TITLE of the "god" they worship is not a separate "entity" not an imaginary "GODFATHER" watchign yoru every step making you feel guilty about every step you take or good about every thing you did "for him" .. but rather these "titles" of "Lucifer" = "bearer of light" .. not to be confused with the OTHER mythological character "Satan" = "the adversary" .. these titled characcters are not worshiped as actual BEINGS in these quasi-religions.. they are looked upon as manifestations of MAN.
different aspects of MAN and his pursuit in the world.. SELF IMPROVEMENT .. spiritually/mentally/emotionally. and physically.. and the actual LITERAL SCIENTIFIC use of vibrations and technology and influence known as "magick" in order to further achieve one's own TRUE WILL.. it has nothing to do with any kind of Christian "god" .. save for the idea that there is INFINITY ABOVE and BELOW us.. and that BEYOND that.. there COULD be a GRAND ARCHITECHT.. and IF there IS.. then that is the great work.. to explore that and become closer to this Grand Architect.
the only reason you see the satanic or luciferian worship in that way you just described is because you see it through the lense of the mythology of the artificially created religion of Christianity, and it's purposefully designed "villains" and "demons" to scare you.
religion is the perfect mind control. it tells you what IS.. before you even have a chance to explore it for yourself.. by the age of 4 i was told what would happen to me if i died... and if i didn't obey certain unfulfiling rules.
i think you need to really research this all a bit further before you can actually draw a fully conclusive analysis of the situation and all of it's ramifications in who's doing what in the world power structure and for what reasons.
again.. nothing personal.
-M
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Post by prevenge on Nov 27, 2007 0:49:23 GMT -5
He will stop it one day ! He will stop it one day for all eternity! He will lock evil away and will be justified to keep it there forever . but have you ever stopped and asked.. "but what is good?"... and. "but what is evil"? these are all relative. a foot is evil to an fire-ant' antihill a fire ant's anthill is evil to a foot. when we're told terrorists are in Afghanistan.. to the majority of millions of dumbfounded dipchit Americans... "Afghanistan is evil"... when Afghanistan.. which has had a totalitarian establishment put in by the russian government.. has CIA planted and trained geurilla warfare agents called "al-Quaeda" runing around in it.. who does Afghanistan's civilians think is evil... depends upon their point of view.. and WHAT THEY KNOW.. yes? "GOOD and EVIL" is the mother of WAR. anyone disinformed enough can be swayed into seeing what the powers that be .. want them to think of as "good" or "evil" is "good" self interest? is "evil" anything opposed to your self interest and survival? you betcha. the people that sway world events have the entire amassment of World Intellectual Prowess behind them. Things don't happen randomly.. this is concerted order by the geniuses of the past 100 years.. consummating into one final effort to change the world into the desired frame of a communally harbored image. it's amazing and yet horrific to watch it occur. -M there's no universal good or evil there's only ... FEAR... and unconditional love.
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Post by godog on Nov 27, 2007 0:53:09 GMT -5
I have researched it and I will continue to research it, I also know from personal experience that there is something beyond this physical world. Yes, people have used religion to control the masses, nothing new there. Well, like the old saying goes, "just because you're paranoid doesn't mean something ain't after you". Just because religion has been used for evil purposes doesn't mean there is nothing to the "god stuff". You say nothing personal, but eventually you get around to being insulting to others, and so I have to think there is something personal about it. You always manage to put others down, ever so slightly. Maybe you don't even realize it, I think you do. So for you, yes I think it is personal for you. It's nothing to me, except I don't like you, I don't like your attitude towards others. You take out your own personal bad feelings on others to make yourself seem better or to make yourself feel better. And that's just wrong.
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Post by prevenge on Nov 27, 2007 1:17:02 GMT -5
godog. I'm not making any apologies for what I see as truth. I am also not purposely trying to hurt you as a person. What I am trying to do is put things in perspective from my point of view.. as to the reality that exists behind the philosophy behind why certain biological warfare agents are created... and why certain people have chosen to spray it on us. it's the philosophy behind it that's important to understand. if you go off on the "god end" then that's patrially what they're expecting.. and partially what they are betting on.. wanting on.. for you to do.. research Constantine the Great.. research the First Council of Nicaea en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaeago deep godog. understand the value in the creation of the Catholic Roman Church as a Power structure for binding and controlling humans. understand how it has come to this day as a prevalent means to control human behavior... down to the CORE. they're betting on you to bring some sort of divinity into this phenomenon... "plagues of the end-times" etc... and all the other "prophecized" apocalyptic things.. i am SURE will come to pass... via TECHNOLOGICAL MEANS.... EVEN massive arrays of earthbound microwave antennae and satellites that cause the clouds to sculpt into 3 dimensional holograms that trick billions into seeing their Messiah.. and hear his voice in their body and mind through EMF radiations.. they're betting on these constructed mythologies to ferment in the minds of sufferers in order to manipulate further. this is all planned.. and in my opinion SHOULD BE. I'n fact I'd be greatly let down if the amassed intellectual minds of this world DIDN'T perform such a feat in order to further unite the world's people in deeper.. more homogenized understanding.. it's nothing personal to you.. i dont look down on you in fact i was watching the video with you in it the other day.. and thought that you had a great amount of courage for stepping UP and being on camera like that. I admire you for that. I don't mean to hurt you.. i just say what I truly observe and deduct in my mind. I say what I find reasonable via the manifested facts. -M
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