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Post by abbienormal on Apr 1, 2008 9:23:12 GMT -5
I have been pissing my pants since this disease started (and previous so maybe it was lurking for even longer than I care look back).
Anyhoo, as we all know the "shower" is some kind of catalyst with this disease or just water in general. But we broke the cardinal rule and bought an area rug which is mainly red in color. I got into the shower the other morning and lost complete control of my bladder and I peed huge globs of "red fibers."
I think the red fibers are from the rug. How are they getting into my bladder?
THIS IS TRULY FRIGHTENING! WHAT IS PULLING THEM IN? WHERE IS IT PULLING THEM IN? FROM THE FEET, FROM THE LUNGS? WHY DO THEY END UP IN MY BLADDER?
This experience combined with reading Dr. Martin's virus paper and its effects on 3 generations of a family has put me into a tailspin.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
Thanks, Abbie
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Post by prevenge on Apr 1, 2008 9:49:51 GMT -5
geh.. i have no freaking clue.
they're in everything in our bodies.
i hiiiiiiiiiiighly doubt this is from your rug.
I think the same fibers.. the clear ones.. are blue or black or red .. when they've extracted or concentrated certain minerals... ie: red ones high in copper... green ones high in zinc... blue ones high in iron.
-M
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Post by toni on Apr 1, 2008 10:03:14 GMT -5
Sorry Prevenge, nothing AT ALL against you, (just my opinion) but I believe they are exactly from your carpet.
I think the finest of fine fibers (from our environment) IS what is being pulled (electrostatically/magnetically) into our bodies.
I believe that's why we feel this more too during the full moons...gravity/magnetic pull.
We have an interaction going on...we are full of this energy and the gravitational pull of the moon when it's full....well, we feel it actually physically. And when we're around electrical components we also FEEL the tinglies more too.
We have the composition inside us, which is just reacting, no different than iron reacts or interacts with a magnet.
Abbie, IF you can get a $20 OHM meter, you'll see...you are full of electrical activity! I KNOW I sure am. At the very onset of morgs, I tested myself on the OHM volt meter we have for checking circuits.
I had a feeling "I was electrical" by the way I kept getting shocked every time I touched something, and by the way I saw something weird happen.
One day I was making the bed, and there was a loose thead on the bedspread. It was over a foot long, and as I reached across the bed, that ((( over a foot long thread ))) stood straight up in the air JUST because my hand went over top it.
I stood there in disbelief that I could actually "lift this LONG thread up" without touching it at all.
All I had to do was put my hand over it, and straight up it stood!
That's when I got the OHM volt meter out.
I held the black cord in one hand and the red in the other.
I measured a HIGH positive reading. (( which I shoudn't have at all.))
I then "switched hands"....and measured a minus sign in front of the number...which was the negative reading.
Meaning....JUST like a battery is polarized (as an example) I AM TOO.
So that is why "jmho" that the finest of fine fibers are truly pulled into our bodies, and the body reacts (from this foreign) invasion by doing it's best to push them out...that's why we see them.
That ALSO (imho) is why they come out whipping and twirling like they're alive, because they are electrically all charged up - because they are from being in our body.
JMHO
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Post by jj on Apr 1, 2008 11:35:25 GMT -5
Abbie, This is interesting no doubt but really sorry you are experiencing it. Several points made here are plausable. Do you have access to a miroscope to compare fibers from a urine sample with fibers of the rug. Of course the fibers in urine would be engourged with fluid but there would be ways to differentiate. Some of images from urine samples are quite telling and you may see something different than fibers from the rug. Clarifications either way would be telling I think.
Toni, It is my belief and understanding that all living things have an energy force within (for lack of the proper term) all being enfluenced in ways that you speak. Man and their constant need to improve on mother natures way have disrupted this natural balance. Have you done any research on chinese medicine and things along the lines of "qi" or chi. Acupunture being one of them. In the past I had two treatments of the kind of acupuncture with an electrical charge. Not for morgellons, but smoking. There is something to it and I believe it is quite effective for some things. I left that office with such an over whelming feeling of peace and well being. Anyway, there are ways to help bring back that balance. I do believe some of us may be more electricly sensitive and have lost a natural functioning polarity. Have also read some of what prevenge speaks of which could also be relative especially dealing with different light therapies. ... JJ
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 1, 2008 12:17:30 GMT -5
Sorry Prevenge, nothing AT ALL against you, (just my opinion) but I believe they are exactly from your carpet. I think the finest of fine fibers (from our environment) IS what is being pulled (electrostatically/magnetically) into our bodies. That is What Mark Darrah, BS said at the conference only not sure if he said it was electrostatically or magnetically. Mark is thinking we secrete something that draws them to us. We can ask Mark's opinion on this Electrostatic or magnetic when his thread gets started.
We all will learn more as Mark Darrah plans to contribute to this board and refers to it as a "work in progress" with a new thread that will be started later today/evening and he will have images added that were presented at the conference and ONES that were not viewed at the conference since so many of us were unable to attend!
He understands how anxious we are. However; this is a slow process and he prefers for his future thread to be scientific.
I am excited about this and hope everyone else is too. We have been left in the dark too long.
There are other researchers out there too ..... so hopefully this will be our year!
He will inform us directly on that New Thread devoted to RESEARCH and for LB member's thoughts and comments on the photo's and his posted research as it progresses.
We won't have to wait for the next Morg Conference and he will address our comments like he did at the conference. I believe that's why we feel this more too during the full moons...gravity/magnetic pull. We have an interaction going on...we are full of this energy and the gravitational pull of the moon when it's full....well, we feel it actually physically. And when we're around electrical components we also FEEL the tinglies more too. We have the composition inside us, which is just reacting, no different than iron reacts or interacts with a magnet. Abbie, IF you can get a $20 OHM meter, you'll see...you are full of electrical activity! I KNOW I sure am. At the very onset of morgs, I tested myself on the OHM volt meter we have for checking circuits. I had a feeling "I was electrical" by the way I kept getting shocked every time I touched something, and by the way I saw something weird happen. One day I was making the bed, and there was a loose thead on the bedspread. It was over a foot long, and as I reached across the bed, that ((( over a foot long thread ))) stood straight up in the air JUST because my hand went over top it. I stood there in disbelief that I could actually "lift this LONG thread up" without touching it at all. All I had to do was put my hand over it, and straight up it stood! That's when I got the OHM volt meter out. I held the black cord in one hand and the red in the other. I measured a HIGH positive reading. (( which I shoudn't have at all.)) I then "switched hands"....and measured a minus sign in front of the number...which was the negative reading. Meaning....JUST like a battery is polarized (as an example) I AM TOO. So that is why "jmho" that the finest of fine fibers are truly pulled into our bodies, and the body reacts (from this foreign) invasion by doing it's best to push them out...that's why we see them. That ALSO (imho) is why they come out whipping and twirling like they're alive, because they are electrically all charged up - because they are from being in our body. JMHO
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Post by toni on Apr 1, 2008 12:17:48 GMT -5
Gosh, believe me, I sure know this could be anything. I'm just "hungup" on the gmo path.
And yes, Prevenge has a great point too. I just see it differently (only) from my own personal experiences, which is all I have to go on.
And yes, light therapy, I've had many treatments in the past too done, actually right before Morgellons showed itself to me.
As science advances, there's more potential than we even realize at this point to their advantages, the lasers with the blue light/yellow/white etc -
Right now used frequently one is "radio waves called the YAG laser" and the Thermage that are non ablative, then there's electrical currents (which I think create electro magnetic waves) and then the light (laser with different colored lights) that are able to penetrate the skin and destroy irratic cells too, such as for cancer etc.
I use to be into all that cause I do find it very exciting and interesting too.
And I sure can understand the electrical current with the needles/accupuncture for smoking, my sis had that done for lower back pain.
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Post by toni on Apr 1, 2008 12:20:46 GMT -5
Kmarie,
Mark said that that we're expressing the stuff that attracks the fibers? I think "jmo" that stuff that attracts the fibers, the stuff we're expressing, the silicone looking waxy balls is what is inside our body! See, I can sometimes see them (the fibers) suck into my skin, is why I said that. The black particles too, the ones that look like tiny ground pepper...they surface, then go right back into the skin! jmo
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 1, 2008 12:21:55 GMT -5
Abbie,
I have read where Lyme can cause incontinence and I too have had my "pee accidents".
Now the red,................, if you find out it is NOT fibers, I would see a doctor to rule out any kidney or bladder infection.
Sincerely, Kmarie
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Post by felixwillford on Apr 1, 2008 12:26:02 GMT -5
Toni,
Yes, Mark said that at the conference about environmental. That statement didn't go well at first with the audience until Dr. Smith stepped up and commented. The audience then calmed down and warmed up and listened and he answered questions afterward.
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Post by gradysghost on Apr 1, 2008 12:50:54 GMT -5
I agree Toni and KMarie, and a while back I stated that is why I cannot sit in any chair except for a leather or wooden one, it's not bugs I feel (though it feels like it) its the fibers in the materials being drawn in or effecting my body through static charges, I do believe this.
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Post by gradysghost on Apr 1, 2008 12:53:09 GMT -5
KMARIE - YOU ARE DEAD ON RIGHT, AMEN, PREACH IT, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING ...
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Post by skytroll on Apr 1, 2008 13:05:33 GMT -5
KMarie,
You go there sweetie.
You are on the button.
Skytroll
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Post by toni on Apr 1, 2008 13:06:44 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Apr 1, 2008 13:10:44 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Apr 1, 2008 13:21:19 GMT -5
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Post by skytroll on Apr 1, 2008 13:25:37 GMT -5
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Post by gradysghost on Apr 1, 2008 13:40:14 GMT -5
KMarie said:
We have an interaction going on...we are full of this energy and the gravitational pull of the moon when it's full....well, we feel it actually physically. And when we're around electrical components we also FEEL the tinglies more too.
Exactly KMarie,
I am a new creature, morphing into a horrible merciless predator that hunts by the light of the full moon. My prey you ask? Uncaring dermatologists, I relish their fear as I approach them with hundreds of thousands of fibers emanating from my body which wrap around the victim and pull them into my body to be absorbed where they become true believers.
oh ya, that felt good, back to work ....
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Post by toni on Apr 1, 2008 13:42:50 GMT -5
Grady, I'd said that....which is and has been only my (thoughts) on this because I have no proof.
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Post by jj on Apr 1, 2008 13:45:55 GMT -5
This may or may not be applicable here but will share it since were talking about fibers environmental or not.
A while back I saw a course curly hair on my head that was abnormal with a small whitish clump attached. Decided to pull it out and examine it under a magnifying glass. There was a barely visible red fiber running through the clump attached to the hair. The clump dislodged from the hair under examination and I couldn't see any noticable fibers on the hair which was lost while I focused on the fiber. I put the fiber and clump in a small jewelers baggie and examined it again to make sure there was nothing else in the baggie. Hours later I examined it again and there was not one but 4 fibers, blue and red ones. The next morning I checked it again and there were more all seperate from the clump. Something was splitting, multiplying or reproducing, size consistant with that of past fiber analysis. It was shipped that day to OSU. On arrival based on my description of events it had continued to create more fibers, both red & blue. At that time nothing conclusive was discovered or identified. What was going on in that bag I don't know but could conclude those fibers were not being drawn into the baggie from the environment nor were there any holes that appeared while in my possession. Believe it was important and hope it is still being put to good use if possible.
Was my body envolved in the production of these fibers in some way or are they 'simply' environmental contaminant? Personally, I can rule out the 'simply' environmental part. However, I believe part of it originated outside the body and I was exposed and unwillingly play a part in it's cycle. Not arguing or discarding anyones own observations here by any means. Just interjecting personal exerience that maybe someone other than myself might relate to. ... JJ ... Would love to know if any one else has witnessed anything like this with the fibers.
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Post by toni on Apr 1, 2008 13:57:15 GMT -5
That's good to know, and thanks JJ for sharing that, it sure is important. Very important. Sure don't know why or how that did that, but it's a good direction to try and figure out how that happened. Lots of food for thought here.
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