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Post by bannanny on Apr 14, 2008 2:59:11 GMT -5
Right on Bessie! Love your prayer chain idea. There's one going from my sis's church for us!
Wow, I just realized I said "right on"....... I'm regressing back to another time and place.
Uh oh, I can't adjust my set! Another time and place would be the outer limits of the twilight zone. But how could that be....... I'm in that zone now!
Ooooooh, I've become one of those downright amazing, but oh so different kinds of thinking machines!
Ok, I'm back....... I hope.
Anyway, I went to see Dr. Hildy too Bessie. She has me on the oxygen caps, vitamins A and B12, milk thistle, restorex (for the heart), jerusulem artichoke, happy tummy (cleans the colon), vibe and via viente, which are just good natural supplements for bodily functions that you drink. I sleep on an infrared pad all the time too. She also gave me das wasser and vermi sprays for the skin. You can also use the vermi to rinse the inside of your mouth with too. I also use willard water which I really like using to spray everything with, especially my car. It breaks up the silica so the only thing you can't use it on is glass. If you do it'll etch it....... powerful stuff! I got a skin cream too that Dr. Hildy makes up herself. It's virgin coconut oil that's been oxygenated and ozoned....... great stuff!
It's not gonna be a quick fix, right now nothing out there is when it comes down to morgs. I started feeling better tho after I saw her. I got into the infrared sauna, a couple of other machines, one to measure the carbon monoxide levels from morgs and another for the muscles that was very soothing. Then I got into her near/far infrared capsule. That one was really something! I sounded like a bowl of rice crispies cuz everything started crackling out of my skin! It was kinda spooky and I was soaking wet with sweat by the time I got outta there. But once I did, I felt better than I had in a long time. Some real heavy sweating is also a good thing to do....... however you wanna do it!
I kept feeling better day after day and then about 2 wks. later, I started to get real bad again. It lasted until just a couple of days ago, but I'm pretty sure now that I've been herxing. It's hard to look at it that way at the time, but I really do think everything she has me doing is helping me to start pushing this stuff outta me.
It's taken dora a year, but she feels she's finally cured. She looks soooo much better too than when she first started with Dr. H. So it'll take a person as long as it takes their body to reject this mess to finally be rid of it....... I figure the amount of time it takes will be different with each individual.
Dr. Hildy said it's also very important to do whatever we can to rise above it. That one's hard for me to do most of the time, but I'm fightin to get myself there. I do know she cares a great deal about helping us and I'm grateful to her for all that she's doing. If there's anything you want to ask about that I can answer, fire away....... anytime, I'm always around!
love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by jlk on Apr 14, 2008 9:33:16 GMT -5
Imagine that we are all drops of water (we pretty much are) and then imagine that God is the ocean - we are all part of the whole but we are also each (at times) separate drops. We are energy, all our thoughts (prayers) are energy, our thought/prayers change things. We can manifest our prayers/thoughts into whatever we focus the energy towards!
Glad to hear you guys are doing better - I am going to add a couple more of Hildy's recommendations to my routine too. Judy
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Post by prevenge on Apr 14, 2008 14:20:39 GMT -5
Imagine that we are all drops of water (we pretty much are) and then imagine that God is the ocean - we are all part of the whole but we are also each (at times) separate drops. We are energy, all our thoughts (prayers) are energy, our thought/prayers change things. !!!!! though, action is more powerful than just thinking about it. taking action .. results in direct change, rather than wishing. though thinking and focusing on what you wish to change (praying) ..does.. in my mind.. solidify the conviction behind the action. -M
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Post by bannanny on Apr 14, 2008 15:32:27 GMT -5
I get more and more curious about one thing with each post of yours that I read prevenge....... I wonder if you do pray? It's hard to tell what it is that you believe in sometimes. Don't get me wrong, I'm not pushing what I believe in on you....... I wouldn't do that. I care about you for some wierd reason (ha! just kidding!) When it comes down to it, I think you probably do know God pretty well, or you think about knowing Him. You know how I feel. He's the only one who matters to me to know....... more than anything else there is to know. This really isn't any kind of preaching from me, please believe that. I've never gone for pushing anything onto anyone. I don't even know why I find you so curious....... you don't have to answer me either if you don't want to! ;D love ~~ bannanny
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Post by bessie on Apr 14, 2008 16:07:27 GMT -5
Abbie & Bannanny - I had called another of Dr. H's patients and suggested a once a week conference call with her and whoever else is/wants to be included. It would be ever so much more time effective to have her answer questions so that EVERYONE hear the answers. Taking calls one at a time, then trying to get back to people, one at a time, takes an awful lot of her precious time. Maybe if she hears this from a few other people she might go for it. I am doing as much as I can of the protocol(s), but there just isn't enough time in the day to do it ALL - plus my funds are running low! I have dumb questions like "how long do we soak" with the aquaspheres, how many layers of clothing can the FIR pad penetrate, etc. I also have TONS of questions about the environment - are there certain cleaning products recommended, some STAY AWAY FROM, etc. When in public, how do we dress, protect ourselves and others (we are supposed to keep "very clean"). I use disposable gloves when I can get away with it, but I hate doing it in the supermarket, etc, so I hold the handles of the food cart with those wipes, then wash my hand before I even get out of the store. Howdo I "clean" papers, books, electronics, etc.... This is the crazy-making stuff of my daily existence! I finally got Dora's number and left her a message today. DYING to talk with her! As far as "cured" - WOW!!! Wouldn't THAT be something??? Do you think it's even possible?? I have gotten much, much better in the months that I was treating myself (oxygen & light, plus healthy supplements). And if I didn't know better, I'd ALMOST think I was "over it". I still have joint pain and tiny litle white fibers that are almost impossible to see unless I look for them (and teeny-tiny white balls). All my lesions have sealed over (expect the one under my tongue that has been there over a year). Nothing draws the stuff out of my body anymore except one thing: Diabetic Advanced Healing cream (oxygenated). You have to rub it in for about a minute, and stuff pours out. Vingar, salt, etc - nothing else. Now, if I were using that stuff, I'd say "Hey! I'm cured!" I wish I were in LA so I could use the machines (couldn't possibly afford to buy them). Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 14, 2008 16:13:17 GMT -5
Prevenge - If I were my own Higher Power, I'd be in dep doo-doo. I'm nowhere near smart enough, strong enough, good enough, etc - though I DO believe there is a spark of God in all of us. The better we can listen and pay attention, the bigger the spark becomes. I worked for the Dept of Correction for many, many years and have looked into the face of pure evil (a death row inmate), so I think it is also possible to completely extinguish that spark. And where do you turn in the middle of the night when you think, "I just can't take a single more instant of this torture!". And I don't mean physical so much - it's the mental, knowing what has happened to this world, to me & us, and not knowing really what it's all about. I wouldn't make a very good Higher Power. Bessie
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Post by bessie on Apr 14, 2008 16:18:13 GMT -5
jlk - Imagine the POWER of all that energy being focussed simultaneously around the world at the same time? Bessie
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Post by bannanny on Apr 14, 2008 16:53:05 GMT -5
I like the way you think Bessie!
I'm glad you're gonna talk to Dora, she's learned so much about everything. You can also give life a call. She told me to tell everyone they're welcome to call her anytime they have any questions. She's very smart and she knows alot! I stayed with her when I went down to Dr. Hildy's. She's been on the protocol for about 4 months and she's improving fast too.
It was dora and life who came to see me in the first place and brought me so many of the things I couldn't afford, like the infrared pad. Dora let me use the one she had. When I drove down to L.A. to see Dr. H and stayed with life, she let me get in her infrared sauna too. She bought one and put it up out on her porch. That was the first time I experienced the snap, crackle, pop! We went in to see Dr. Hildy a couple of days after that and I popped a whole lot more there!
The conference call thing seems like a good idea. The only problem I see with it is the number of people that would want to take part. I imagine it would be quite a few with just as many questions. It might make it a little crazy to do it all at once! I dunno tho, she'd have to tell us what she thinks of course!
You can soak as long as you can in the aquaspheres, but there's one very important thing Dr. Hildy told me about doing it. You must think only good happy thoughts when you soak with them! Otherwise, if you think negatively, you can get negative kinds of results. That's something you definitely should talk to her about when you do talk to her. I just took it as that and didn't ask any more questions about it. Like you, I had and still have so many more questions to ask her about. Sometimes after the fact, I realize I should've followed up more with some of the answers I was given. Can't think of everything all at once, ya know? I've started writing them all down now, so I don't forget anything!
The infrared penetrates everything. You don't have to be naked or wear any less clothing than what you might already have on. It reaches all the way to the bone! You can use the Willard Water to spray around your house and in your car. Let it sit for a day and then vac it up. You should also take a couple tspns. of it a day orally. I'm hearing alot about this Dettol and I plan on getting some. Judy knows alot about it and several others here are getting good results with it too.
I'll send you a pm with life's phone #....... she's really great to talk to!
love ~~ bannanny
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Post by doraisabel on Apr 14, 2008 22:57:35 GMT -5
Hi bessie, I did not receive a message from you, please call me back. It is very important that you do stay positiive and do not be afraid!!!!!!!!!!. When you first start the protocol it will get worst. You wil get worst before you get better. I have been on her protocol for a year now and i have been symptom free for a few months. The best way to fit everything in on the same day is to break it up into three different times breakfast, lunch and dinner. you will sleep a lot at the beginning and that is because the body needs sleeps when you are healing. Do take all your neutraceticals and try really hard not to stop make it part of your daily routine. Our bodies our lacking so many minerals and vitamins we need to stay on top of it.
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Post by scandi on Apr 16, 2008 12:42:52 GMT -5
Doraisabel -
I have bought a 2 man sauna that i have been using 3 months or so every day and have been taking the opaline oxy dry from opaline for aprox 2 weeks now. They both seem to be helping im just curious in what way it will get worse. I live in europe and have tried to contact Dr hildy but she did not answer my mails maybe you can answer some questions i got thru some mails ? i have sent you a private message here on lymebusters with my mail adress.
the only thing ive noticed so far on this treatment is a mild improvement and im breaking out with lots of spots on my body.
hope you have time to answer
Thanks Scandi
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Post by cyn on Apr 16, 2008 14:39:04 GMT -5
I had added Opaline Solution to my regimen. After ten days or so, my temp went to 100 degrees and stayed there.
My slightly high blood pressure went to stage 2 Hypertension and stayed there.
All of a sudden I had three old lesions become active, and I was able to pull out structures larger than ever before.
I became more and more fatigued.
I have stopped using the product in order to get control of blood pressure with a new med from doc. Every new symptom is calming down daily.
Please, can someone with experience give me your thoughts? IS THIS HERXING? BANNANNY? DORAISABEL? ANY DOCTOR?
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Post by bannanny on Apr 16, 2008 16:09:39 GMT -5
Well cyn, that's the way I'm looking at what I went thru....... herxing. I'm feeling better now and I hope it doesn't get as bad as it did for those 2 weeks again, but if it does it does. I'm staying with the protocol....... after all, it's all I have to go with!
Like I keep saying, there's no quick fix out there for this. Also, I have to go along with what Dora says about it getting worse before it gets better becuz she's living proof that it's what happens. She became worse when she started the protocol, but after a year of staying with it, she feels she's finally cured....... and she looks like she is too! The stuff has to come out somehow, it's just not gonna all of a sudden disappear. Altho it sure would be nice if it were that easy!
love ~~ bannanny
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Post by cyn on Apr 16, 2008 18:20:57 GMT -5
But bannanny,
Did you experience any of the reactions I had, when you were herxing?
How does one know when it is a herx or when its empowering the disease?
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Post by valerie on Apr 16, 2008 19:47:15 GMT -5
I believe there is a demonic element to this.....if u are a christian,try casting it out and see if u dont get increased activity.....even if it isnt demonic,all things are subject to the God---meaning if u use Gods authority to tell it to do something---it has to react---everything does!
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Post by gradysghost on Apr 16, 2008 19:59:06 GMT -5
Valerie, you my kind of folk, I have had another person tell me the same thing
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Post by doraisabel on Apr 17, 2008 2:45:48 GMT -5
Yes, yes and yes again! Howdy hope you are all okay. valerie you are right about this being evil that is why it is so important to remind yourself everyday that God is in every cell of our body and in every wall of our homes. A really good friend of mine told me that when I too was herxing. You do want your temperature to rise and yes you will break out as a matter of fact you will not only break out you willl shed several layers of your skin. This could last a few months. Sleeping is good, when the body heals it needs a lot of rest.
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Post by prevenge on Apr 17, 2008 11:03:51 GMT -5
I believe there is a demonic element to this.....if u are a christian,try casting it out and see if u dont get increased activity.....even if it isnt demonic,all things are subject to the God---meaning if u use Gods authority to tell it to do something---it has to react---everything does! maybe if we tell our doctors this, they will think we are sane, and treat us. -M
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Post by bannanny on Apr 17, 2008 20:31:33 GMT -5
The way I see it cyn....... when you're herxing, not only is it becuz the stuff's comin out of you, but also becuz it's fighting back not to come out of you. Kinda the same in one, ya know? But even tho, you're the one who has the upper hand in it all when it's happening!
love ya's ~~ bannannas
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Post by bessie on Apr 19, 2008 14:48:23 GMT -5
Dora - This "cured" thing fascinates me! This "smart dust" that has invaded us - how can that be kicked out??? And has anyone ever had worm-looking tubes - MANY of them, different sizes, ever pass with your stool? That happened to me when this first started late last summer - I used Parastroy from the health food store. It was HORRIBLE. Do these things grow back? If you don't pass them like that, how ever would you be able to get rid of them???
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Post by bessie on Apr 19, 2008 15:33:00 GMT -5
So Tuesday morning I had a meltdown. Couldn't think of a single thing I could do to make the next moment pass. Tears & terror. Couldn't call anyone in my family or friends (the ones who still talk to me) because they just can't take it. So I called the suicide prevention hotline, and while I was on the phone with them a knock came at the door. It was the police, come to take me to the psych ward. Got out yesterday after 3 days - and 3 days of no "protocol", organic food, cleansing, etc. People screaming, hallucinating, etc. About halfway through I had an epiphany. I can't control the world, I can't control this affliction, I can't control the b****rds that made and released it. I can only do what I can to help myself, maybe help someone else, but there is way too much that I don't know and can't do, and if I am to get to the other side of this (spiritually/emotionally, at least) I have to stop letting it get the upper hand. I have been questioning every little move I make, afraid of everything - touching things in public, etc. Well, that really isn't a life I can sustain for long. So I'll do what I can do, wash my hands a lot, try to relax and find something to enjoy - and turn the rest over to God. And of course follow the protocol to the best of my ability without making myself frantic over it. I think that might do more harm than good. And however much time I have left, and whatever quality is there, well, we all have to walk our own path till it's over. Bessie
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