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Post by ara on May 25, 2008 22:09:44 GMT -5
I listened to an interview with Howard Lyman which had some very interesting information in it. For those interested it was on Coast to Coast AM May 18th."Before he went vegetarian, Howard Lyman was a fourth-generation Montana cattle rancher". Howard talked about the practice of feeding ground-up parts of dead cattle to other cattle, which are vegetarian by nature. " The Department of Agriculture has since banned that practice, but blood from cattle and ground-up parts of other dead animals continues to go into cattle feed." He also spoke about animals (cats, dogs etc) which had been euthanased being collected and minced up and fed to cattle. (Who is to say what diseases those animals had and what effect the chemicals from the euthanasia process would have on the cattle?) He mentions prions, certain genes, Alzheimer's and CJD. Also talked about pesticides being sprayed on the cattle to kill off mites. This man now refuses to eat any meat at all. Here's his website :http://www.madcowboy.com/ www.madcowboy.com/01_FactsMC.Species.html
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Post by angela on May 25, 2008 22:43:09 GMT -5
He also spoke about animals (cats, dogs etc) which had been euthanased being collected and minced up and fed to cattle.
(Who is to say what diseases those animals had and what effect the chemicals from the euthanasia process would have on the cattle?)
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Gotta say, we're not feeding any cows with any of our cats/dogs. They go directly into the crematory. I sure hope thats not going on elsewhere. EWWW!
interesting. anj
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Post by felixwillford on May 25, 2008 23:01:51 GMT -5
I can understand why he would not want to eat meat.
It's hard to decide anymore,
GM plant food
or
The horror of what cows are fed.
What about Chickens?
I already do not trust fish with all the parasites now found in so many of them and disease.
Thanks for the good and yet horrible sad info.
Kmarie
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Post by Jill on May 26, 2008 7:48:17 GMT -5
Howard Lyman is supporting the government/media 'spin' as to the origin of Scrappie and Mad Cow. Commonly accepted- that the animals get the disease by eating bone meal- ie: other animals (ground up). Mark Purdey had a different theory. As an organic farmer, he did not treat his cows for the warble fly- as the other farmers did- with ORGANOPHOSPHATES. His cows, did not get MAD COW. He stated that while his cows (as all cows do), would eat the afterbirth after calving. Still his cows did not get Mad Cow. The only difference- his cows were not treated with the pesticide. That fact made him realize that it was not the "bizarre habit of eating their colleagues"- iow- it was not the food that was causing the Mad Cow and the Scrappie- but rather a combination of the ORGANOPHOSPHATES and the soil conditions- low in copper and high in manganese - that was causing the disease. That, along with a few other variables such as altitude (UV rays) and so on. He mentioned that labs in the US attempted to create the condition (BSE-Mad Cow) using the accepted theory- ie: it's from the food-eating other animals- and the scientists could not re-create the MAD COW. So Academia is well aware that the disease is NOT from cows eating ground up cows. Still the story persists. Read about Mark Purdey- www.markpurdey.com/ Here is a tidbit about his study and that of a woman, Susannah Churchill, who lived with the Aboriginal people (the spin was that they had the KURU due to being cannibals): Excerpt: After broadcasting of the BBC film "Mad Cows and an Englishman" on ABC Four Corners in Australia, I received a deluge of correspondence from people concerned about manganese contamination on Groote Eylandt. One of the most inspiring communications came from Susannah Churchill of Canberra, who, unlike your average academic, had actually lived with the Aboriginal folk herself whilst researching for her thesis. Her completed manuscript on Groote syndrome makes a refreshingly impartial read. It’s a study that combines a lateral mix of cultural, genetic and geo-medical perspectives. I could also strongly relate to her suggestion that Groote syndrome was yet another satellite extension of the famous South Pacific clusters of "Guam Syndrome" - pockets of high manganese/high aluminium terrain where a variety of Alzheimer's/Motor Neurone/Parkinson's - like neuro-degenerative diseases had burst out at an incidence rate that was fifty times higher than the average international rate. End excerpt www.markpurdey.com/articles_endearth.htm Susannah Churchill's study, just as Mark Purdey states, points to the soil. The high content of manganese. So it's layered. Chemicals (pesticides) with poor soil conditions- and Manganese exposure as a cause, or in the case of the Aboriginal people- they were the subject of Japanese 'experiments' in the WWII time frame. Someone had posted about the experiments (vaccines) that the Japanese subjected these people to- prior to them developing KURU. Google: Mark Purdey, Groote Syndrome articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2000/12/17/mad-cow-pesticides.aspx Organic farming- just as with the bees- is the key to safe food. Organic farmers do not have bee colony collapse. Another irony? Jill
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Post by Jill on May 26, 2008 8:16:56 GMT -5
Found Godsgraces' post- re: the Aboringal tribe and the Kuru: lymebusters.proboards39.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=rash&thread=9496&page=1I have witnessed microscopic "copper" fibers in the skin-like material from my facial lesions. I can see the light of the scope reflecting and it is definitely copper. I have also seen cherry red, royal blue, black and clear as well as copper... regarding Mad Cow, CJD and it's origins.... Mad Cow Disease/Kuru/CJD in the Fore Tribe Before and during World War II, at the infamous Camp 731 in Manchuria, the Japanese military contaminated prisoners of war with certain disease agents. They also established a research camp in New Guinea in 1942. There they experimented upon the Fore Indian tribe and inoculated them with a minced-up version of the brains of diseased sheep containing the visna virus which causes "mad cow disease" or Creutzfeldt&endash;Jakob disease. About five or six years later, after the Japanese had been driven out, the poor people of the Fore tribe developed what they called kuru, which was their word for "wasting", and they began to shake, lose their appetites and die. The autopsies revealed that their brains had literally turned to mush. They had contracted "mad cow disease" from the Japanese experiments. When World War II ended, Dr Ishii Shiro--the medical doctor who was commissioned as a General in the Japanese Army so he could take command of Japan's biological warfare development, testing and deployment--was captured. He was given the choice of a job with the United States Army or execution as a war criminal. Not surprisingly, Dr Ishii Shiro chose to work with the US military to demonstrate how the Japanese had created mad cow disease in the Fore Indian tribe. In 1957, when the disease was beginning to blossom in full among the Fore people, Dr Carleton Gajdusek of the US National Institutes of Health headed to New Guinea to determine how the minced-up brains of the visna-infected sheep affected them. He spent a couple of years there, studying the Fore people, and wrote an extensive report. He won the Nobel Prize for "discovering" kuru disease in the Fore tribe. bless you all godsgrace Thanks for the info- Godsgrace! Seems the magic ingredient for the Kuru- was VISNA- www.righto.com/theories/visna.html Jill
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Post by Jill on May 26, 2008 9:06:04 GMT -5
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Post by godsgrace on May 26, 2008 9:18:38 GMT -5
yes, jill... the Fore Idian tribe did not get mad cow from being cannibals and eating each others brains... they got it from the Japanese who INJECTED THEM WITH VACCINES CONTAINING THE VISNA VIRUS. Just like the gays were targeted with AIDS and mycoplasma was put into Hep B vaccines. They advertised for promiscuous homosexual men to take part in the Hep B experiment, originally. it is all so sad. stay well and stay informed godsgrace
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Post by godsgrace on May 26, 2008 9:24:16 GMT -5
yes, visna virus was involved with mad cow as well as with AIDS.
AIDS did not come from monkeys or a gay flight attendant from Africa like origianally told to us.
"When you trust your television what you get is what you got cuz when they own the information, they can bend it all they want" ---John Mayer....Waiting On The World To Change.
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Post by Jill on May 26, 2008 9:48:18 GMT -5
I could not agree with you more, Godsgrace.
I've been watching the 'research' of this disease (and participating) by posters and more recently scientists, for about 7 years. What is confirmed to me is what I learned early on- from the Don Scott info, Garth Nicolson and others.
Of course, I don't deny that others- such as Purdey- don't have valid input that relates.
Too bad that Mark Darrah got stopped in his tracks- he was on to something huge with the organophosphate connection.
You just know in your heart when the info is 'right'.
Now- on to the cure.
Thanks for all you do, Godsgrace. I'm looking into accupressure. Don't have a provider in my area for Bioset.
Jill
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Post by godsgrace on May 26, 2008 11:07:38 GMT -5
Jill, try looking for NAET..
Nandruimpads allergy elimination technique.
The woman who invented BioSET worked with Dr Nandruimpad who came up with NAET
It is all the same premise....electromagnetic fields, allergies...the "auto-immune" aspect of mycoplasma and probably Morgellon's
best wishes Jill and thank you for your kind words.
godsgrace
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