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Post by ruth on Jun 12, 2008 10:58:35 GMT -5
dr. kalani has already tested for everything and
came up empty handed.
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Post by freyman on Jun 12, 2008 22:09:29 GMT -5
dr. kalani has already tested for everything and came up empty handed. Thats a mighty vague statement ruth, when you say tested for everything what exactly does that mean? Typically you have to have specifics in mind when looking for something with "tests", I doubt that he has covered "everything"
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Post by ruth on Jun 13, 2008 9:53:56 GMT -5
Ahmed Kilani is an infectious diseases microbiologist who runs Clongen Laboratories. He has ran tests on the fibers from victims for such things as leishmaniasis, a disease transmitted by sand flies, as well as protozoal infections and fungal disease, only to come up empty handed. He is now serving on the MRF scientific advisory board.(4) www.naturalnews.com/023181.htmlfrom MRF; Clongen lab Based on the structures that we observed microscopically from a number of Morgellons patients and the clinical profiles, we have reasons to believe that this organism is not a virus or bacteria. We hypothesize that this organism is a more complex fungus, algae or a novel parasite. The fibers are most likely feeding structures as they have strong resemblance to aerial hyphae observed in many fungal species. Our research is focused on genetic investigations of the DNA in lesions and fibers. Our experiments will include assays that attempt to amplify any bacterial sequences and identify them by DNA sequencing if present to rule out or confirm that the organism is a bacteria as other investigators have hypothesized steve, i wonder if the sponge dna would show? you could send your research to dr. kilani?
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Post by bessie on Jun 13, 2008 10:57:46 GMT -5
Ruth - You are correct. When he took over at the MRF as director of research, he initially said he thought that this could "easily" be figured out. He now is in the position that there are more questions than answers. And yes, he has conducted extensive testing - he OWNS Clongen Labs and has unlimited access. And he is an extremely talented researcher, in the true meaning of the word. Bessie
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Post by freyman on Jun 13, 2008 21:28:54 GMT -5
Thanks Toni it worked Everyone should be familiar with the first image since it is posted under Marks work using a Scanning Electron Microscope The image is titled "Vesicular mass behind lesion" at a magnification of 5000x Shot at 2008-06-13 This next image is of Trichoplax adhaerens at magnifications - a x2,880, b x2,600, e x 3,600 Shot at 2008-06-13
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Post by freyman on Jun 13, 2008 21:40:08 GMT -5
Here is a Spherical form of Trichoplax Fig. 9. "Solid" sphere bounded by a thin layer of flattened cells. The surface is sparsely flagellated (arrows) Fig. 10. Regular cross-connections (arrowheads) between the membranes of adjacent fiber cells. Arrow indicates central dense material. M mitochondrion Fig. 11. Adjacent fiber cells. Note pore (arrowhead) connecting both cells. N nucleus; double arrowhead nuclear pore Shot at 2008-06-13
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Post by freyman on Jun 13, 2008 22:22:20 GMT -5
Shot at 2008-06-13Shot at 2008-06-13 Fig. 1 In contact with the coverslip, the cells flatten and gradually assume a star-shaped appearance with broad lamellipodia and slender extensions, as seen in phase contrast micrographs of living cells. Once the cell body with its lamellipodia is attached, these extensions are the only parts that display movement. They elongate slowly, at a maximum rate of 6 ~tm/min and can slowly (1-2 ~tm/min) or suddenly be withdrawn. Ultimately, an extension may become stationary by forming a flattened "adhesion plaque" at the tip or at intermediate locations. The only movement which can then be seen by phase contrast microscopy is that of organelles within the cell body, e.g., the nucleus or the endosymbiotic bacteria enclosed in vesicles of endoplasmic reticulum. Fig. 2 Interference reflection microscopy reveals a pattern of dark interference fringes, which are indicative of a space of less than half the wavelength of light between the cell membrane and the substrate. Slow changes of this pattern indicate that the zones of close contact are not stationary. Fig. 3. The overall shape of fiber cells attached to a substrate is seen in scanning electron micrographs The major part of the cell body containing the nucleus, the mitochondrial complex and the concrement vacuole appears as a more or less globular mass from which flattened lamellipodia may arise. These may terminate in flattened, spike-like extensions. Long extensions, round in cross section, arise directly from the cell bodies. Fig. 4. The impression of restricted zones of contact based on interference reflection microscopy is confirmed by cross sections of the flattened part of the cell body. Fig. 5.In regions of close contact, the space between cell membrane and substrate is less than 5 nm. In intervening zones, the membrane may be lifted off the surface by about 0.7 ~tm. These hollow spaces underneath the plasmalemma are noticeable in every section (thickness about 80-100 nm) cut parallel to the surface of lamellipodia whose thickness is less than 300 nm.
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Post by ANTHILL on Jun 13, 2008 23:27:45 GMT -5
Steve can I get you to resize your pictures to about 500 pixles at the most and re post ? if you don't I will have to remove them The big ones that you got there is screwing up the fourm and it takes too long to load for those that are on dailup --Thanks"
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Post by godsgrace on Jun 15, 2008 19:23:14 GMT -5
YALE.... hard at work attempting to sequence the genome...and cloning the Trichoplax Adhaerens perhaps they suceeded in the cloning aspect? ? hu. godsgrace
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Post by liz on Jun 22, 2008 22:55:55 GMT -5
Ok .. I am confused now
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Post by godsgrace on Jun 22, 2008 23:09:33 GMT -5
The sole representative species of the phylum Placozoa, Trichoplax adhaerens represents the simplest known animal, with the smallest known animal genome. The DNA sequence of the 50-Mbp Trichoplax genome will have far-reaching scientific importance, providing significant genomic insights into our understanding of how animal life evolved. tinyurl.com/59ed8r
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Post by godsgrace on Jun 22, 2008 23:16:24 GMT -5
tinyurl.com/6r3ma8Perhaps we are all half right. Yale...mapping the genome of TA Steve may have been on to something with this...but this is the biological part. I still believe it was manipulated and is travelling to us via chemtrails. At least, that's what the evidence is leading me to believe. It is only my opinion. perhaps they mapped the genome sequence of this creature...adding something during phosphorylation(other than phosphorus) making it synthetic? could they add during transcription/translation too? curious godsgrace
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Post by Jill on Jun 23, 2008 9:37:45 GMT -5
Chemtrails- without a doubt! All of you should pick up (from the library) or purchase online- the book by Jonathan D Moreno- "Undue Risk" Moreno, a professor of biomedical ethics at the University of Virginia, was commissioned by then President Clinton to research secret radiation experiments from WWII through the mid 1970's. He was given a staff and access to Top Secret and other documents and info. What he learned and subsequently wrote about is off the hook. search.barnesandnoble.com/Undue-Risk/Jonathan-D-Moreno/e/9780415928359Excerpts: From the horrific Nazi experiments of the concentration camps to the egregious efforts in the United States to research radiation and biological warfare, Jonathan Moreno presents a compelling historical narrative of how the claims of military science have often warped the ethics of human experimentation. Undue Risk is a powerful and human call for moral vigilance as we face complex issues of medical research in the present and future. --Allan M. Brandt, Kass Professor of the History of Medicine, Harvard University Moreno has accomplished something rare in Undue Risk. Its value lies not only in the care with which he has dug deep into primary sources to add significant details to familiar events-- such as the Nuremberg trials-- but in the way it reveals to scholars, politicians, and the public the role that bioethical thought may play in the future construction of domestic and foreign policy. --Eric M. Meslin, Ph.D., Executive Director, National Bioethics Advisory Commission Jonathan Moreno has written a thoughtful, balanced, and much needed account of the different forces that in recent decades have caused various saints and devils to overlook or set aside the moral status of persons recruited (voluntarily or involuntarily) into medical experiments. Undue Risk should be mandatory reading for all those concerned with not only the protection of human subjects but the appropriate moral underpinnings of government action in a liberal democracy. --Harold T. Shapiro, President, Princeton University; Chairman, National Bioethics Advisory Commission ** What brought this book to mind was the comment by Godsgrace about going after the government. Few have any success- even with proof in hand. This book discloses the experiment- Serratia marcescens- in California- where biological warfare was 'simulated' - and the stuff was sprayed on San Francisco- Many were hospitalized- and at least one man died- Edward Nevin. His family learned of the cause of his death years later and sued. They lost. The court found that the government properly exercised its discretion to choose both the site for the 'attack' and the bacteria to be used in the attack. The case was dismissed. This, despite the fact that a professor at Suny- Stony Brook, Dr Stephen Weitzman, told Congress that Serratia can cause disease in a healthy person. Other articles suggesting the dangers of Serratia were available to the Army researchers (at the time of the experiment) as well. Much more about all the cover-ups- done for the 'greater good'. He mentions activities that could fall under the heading of Chemtrails as well- More later
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Post by godsgrace on Jun 23, 2008 22:53:29 GMT -5
jjill...more, more...give us more ;D ;D PLEASE!! godsgrace
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Post by stevefrey on Jun 24, 2008 22:08:35 GMT -5
If you would like to get a better understanding of my theory involving the "replication" of other organisms by Porifera and Placozoa you can learn a great deal from this article, it is by far one of the most comprehensive studies on sponge associated organisms that I have come across. Of course you will not find any mention of "replication" in the article because for some reason science refuses to offer it as an explanation, they prefer no explanation at all I suppose. Here are a few quotes from the article, What I am propossing in regards to the sponge and it's replication of other organisms is the only logical explanation for these findings, think about it. mmbr.asm.org/cgi/reprint/71/2/295Microbial Symbiosis in Marine Spongeswww.msk.or.kr/jsp/downloadPDF1.jsp?fileName=394-13.pdf
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Post by robertalouise26 on Jun 24, 2008 22:45:45 GMT -5
Dearest Steve WELCOME BACK!!!!!! Please don't go away again!!!!! We value your contribution to this board Steve. Everyone has different thoughts and ideas for this devasting complaint and we need all the input we can get. Myself and others were devastated when you left. I have one horor story about this thing that I haven't got the courage to mention on the board yet. It happened 4 years ago and is to do with this thing. One day I will. just stau with us Steve. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by stevefrey on Jun 26, 2008 23:27:32 GMT -5
As I have stated so many times in the past the sponge clearly exhibits the ability to replicate other organisms by the number of different species and even kingdoms that can be found within a typical sponge colony. I have also stated that I believe Lyme disease and morgellons are a result of the same parasite even though Lyme disease is said to be transmitted by ticks. Well I am leaning towards the belief that the ticks that are carrying the bacteria causing Lyme disease could actually be one of the sponge replicas. tinyurl.com/4s6pch
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Post by stevefrey on Jun 27, 2008 4:35:14 GMT -5
681 Fungal Strains have been isolated from just 16 sponge species, most of them belonged to genera which are ubiquitous in terrestrial habitats It is becoming clear to me that Fungi was infected by the sponge many millions of years ago. I am now contemplating the idea that maybe Fungi is the sum of Plant DNA combined with the animal DNA of the sponge, it is considered part plant part animal so wouldn't this be a logical thought? www.squidoo.com/skinfungusI'm going to even go a step further and broaden the theory to encompass mitocondrial DNA, this may seem like a leap but it is becoming clearer and clearer that mitochodrial DNA in all organisms is but the calling card of the sponge, inserted into every living thing over the course of the past 5 or 6 hundred million years. This is why fungal infections are considered genetic, I believe what is actually happening is the sponge is utilizing it's ability to manipulate the immune system of it's host and preventing it from recognizing fungi as a threat
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Post by godsgrace on Jun 27, 2008 12:02:52 GMT -5
Steve, are sponges only found in salt water? the oceans?
I'm just curious as I live in the center of New York State and had never visited the oceans.
Are they able to survive in fresh water?
I have been swimming in lakes and rivers here.
Thanks
godsgrace
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Post by stevefrey on Jun 27, 2008 12:11:04 GMT -5
Here is an article about collembola with observations that support the idea that some species of collembola may be replicas produced by the sponge, or at a minimum, the same organism that is present with morgellons. jcs.biologists.org/cgi/reprint/s2-83/330/153.pdf
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