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Post by freyman on Jun 9, 2008 22:52:38 GMT -5
morgellonsgroup.proboards23.com/index.cgi?board=research&action=display&thread=1079I was wondering if this was any connection to the poster putting this idea forward once again; it seems like a distraction--it seemed like a distraction a year ago at the other board and it was so interesting to see all those coming on to view--that also left me wondering exactly what was up? The concept does not gel with what I understand; it almost seems like they are attempting to redirect, could that be? greeneyes Greeneyes you can just call me Secret Agent Man, you know, like the song?Secret aaaaaaaaagent man Secret aaaaaaaaagent man
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Post by skytroll on Jun 9, 2008 23:08:46 GMT -5
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Post by freyman on Jun 9, 2008 23:11:39 GMT -5
no, sorry i'm not seeing the connection
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Post by lilsissy on Jun 9, 2008 23:40:48 GMT -5
Wow ! Steve the pictures are a perfect match..........WOW!!!!!!!! Lilsissy
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Post by skytroll on Jun 9, 2008 23:50:14 GMT -5
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Post by lilsissy on Jun 9, 2008 23:57:05 GMT -5
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Post by ANTHILL on Jun 10, 2008 0:17:24 GMT -5
I would like to throw this out for consideration, and this conforms to the idea of an infection manipulated by Mother Nature with possible input by man.
Ticks carry agrobacterium, several micoplasmas, P. putida and aeruginosa, nematodes, and of course the Lyme bacteria. All of the above including ticks have been 'exper- imented with' by man, but of course mother nature readily handles mutations without our input, so that is always a consideration.
Certain nematodes only exist in close proximity to the ocean. They in turn carry all of the above, except ticks harbor them. You get the tick bite with an injection of all of the above and more.
My vote is for Nature-made and natural delivery with possible unintentional (trying to be kind here) poisoning of the soup by man.
Blue Skies.........JohnI agree nature made and soup of the day I Luuve soup
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Post by freyman on Jun 10, 2008 0:43:01 GMT -5
Thats the rest of the equation sissy, it is my contention that both the placozoans and the poriferans are capable of "replicating" other organisms, the evidence to support this idea is overwhelming. this is why morgellons is so bizarre.
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Post by skytroll on Jun 10, 2008 1:08:54 GMT -5
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Post by friskers on Jun 10, 2008 1:10:23 GMT -5
I would like to throw this out for consideration, and this conforms to the idea of an infection manipulated by Mother Nature with possible input by man.
Ticks carry agrobacterium, several micoplasmas, P. putida and aeruginosa, nematodes, and of course the Lyme bacteria. All of the above including ticks have been 'exper- imented with' by man, but of course mother nature readily handles mutations without our input, so that is always a consideration.
Certain nematodes only exist in close proximity to the ocean. They in turn carry all of the above, except ticks harbor them. You get the tick bite with an injection of all of the above and more.
My vote is for Nature-made and natural delivery with possible unintentional (trying to be kind here) poisoning of the soup by man.
Blue Skies.........JohnI agree nature made and soup of the day I Luuve soup I think its more like a mixed up soup/sandwitch with a side of deviled eggs ;D
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Post by skytroll on Jun 10, 2008 1:53:40 GMT -5
Silicatein can self assemble: Fractal intermediates in the self-assembly of silicatein filaments Abstract Silicateins are proteins with catalytic, structure-directing activity that are responsible for silica biosynthesis in certain sponges; they are the constituents of macroscopic protein filaments that are found occluded within the silica needles made by Tethya aurantia. Self-assembly of the silicatein monomers and oligomers is shown to form fibrous structures by a mechanism that is fundamentally different from any previously described filament-assembly process. This assembly proceeds through the formation of diffusion-limited, fractally patterned aggregates on the path to filament formation. The driving force for this self-assembly is suggested to be entropic, mediated by the interaction of hydrophobic patches on the surfaces of the silicatein subunits that are not found on highly homologous congeners that do not form filaments. Our results are consistent with a model in which silicatein monomers associate into oligomers that are stabilized by intermolecular disulfide bonds. These oligomeric units assemble into a fractal network that subsequently condenses and organizes into a filamentous structure. These results represent a potentially general mechanism for protein fiber self-assembly. Keywords: biomineralization, protein, fiber well now..........check out the photos here and how it is done www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1187983#ref40skytroll
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Post by freyman on Jun 10, 2008 2:58:02 GMT -5
Give it a rest would you.
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Post by freyman on Jun 10, 2008 3:05:59 GMT -5
Thats quite funny Sky I'm rolling over here, No thats not me but thanks for the compliment, nice that you would think I have a degree in chemistry. No Sky my name is Steve not Steven and middle initial is A, now I know how politicians feel, trying to find some dirt Sky? But Hey I do love the title though, feel free to address me as such if you desire And no I'm not the baseball player either.
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Post by freyman on Jun 10, 2008 3:22:42 GMT -5
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Post by angela on Jun 10, 2008 8:08:57 GMT -5
please Steve, could you list specific supportive characteristics (of your sponge) ...in a nice tidy bulletin fashion for us. Im sorry if you have already done this... kinda like this.... (example only) * autofluoresces * forms spores * an amoeba (therefore creating endless variety manifestations)Does Trichoplax Adhaerens emit its own light? Just curious. btw.....I'm Angela. I introduced myself once before (a couple months ago) and recieved no reponse. I guess i cant blame you..... you have your theory, i have mine.
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Post by lilsissy on Jun 10, 2008 8:14:16 GMT -5
Any idea Steve , how to kill it? Lilsissy
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Post by skytroll on Jun 10, 2008 13:31:34 GMT -5
Not trying to dig up any dirt, just thought if you were a professor, that is excellent.
I do not play political games, so let that one go.
Once archaea was introduced into anything, trouble began.
Biomineralization, bioturbation, Darwin's dream.
Skytroll
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Post by ANTHILL on Jun 10, 2008 23:02:24 GMT -5
I agree nature made and soup of the day I Luuve soup I think its more like a mixed up soup/sandwitch with a side of deviled eggs ;D Yesss in deedy soup dejour and a french dip vanilla flavored crep susets for dessert ;D
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Post by freyman on Jun 11, 2008 22:22:03 GMT -5
Angela, I'm working on that Bulletin for you and everyone Lilsissy, No I don't have any ideas on how to kill it An Interesting Article that provides more evidence of Trichoplax's mysterious morphology Something to think aboutWe've all seen the resistence in acknowledging and studying this disease, too much resistence to be explained with logic, looks like Trichoplax Adhaerens didn't want to be studied either. ecolevol.de/pubs/2005/syed_schie_vie_milieu.pdf
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Post by zabrubon on Jun 12, 2008 0:49:57 GMT -5
Steve that link was absolutely facinating. Help me understand this theory better because I just don't quite get how it all applies.
Wish you could say it simply in two sentances or less.
ChicagoBonnie
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