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Post by jeff on Aug 16, 2005 23:32:21 GMT -5
just curious...it takes about 2 weeks..anybody? you should...I am not getting paid to make this statement! nor do I beileve swartz is making a profit on this book...the profit is for the reader..I wish I could just repost the whole thing but it is protected under copywright law...and is so increadably complete... that is the mind blower part...He talkes about this condition like its his entire life and he has reasearched it for 10 years...the guy has to be a genius it is written in clear medical terms and is something your doctor could bye into...
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Post by frisk on Aug 17, 2005 0:50:10 GMT -5
I have but havent received it yet :-*frisky cat
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Post by jeff on Aug 17, 2005 21:58:11 GMT -5
YA IT TOOK ABOUT 2 WEEKS OR MORE..I CANT BELIEVE YOUR THE ONLY ONE..I BEG YOU GUYS ORDER THE BOOK.. MAYBE FRISK WHEN YOU GET YOUR YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHAT YOU THINK....IM ANXIOUS FOR THAT DAY..ITS LIKE READING THE BIBLE IT YOU CANT COMPREHEND THE MAGNITUDE OF IT UNTIL YOU GET INTO IT..
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Post by DOCP on Aug 18, 2005 6:55:24 GMT -5
Are you kidding? Of course I ordered it. I am still struggling with sick and such... but not not like my pre-septra days. I'm actually getting two copies.
Don't people want to at least read the first and only published research on their disease? I know some people have their doubts about steno-malt being the cause or source, but how can you know for sure until you've thuroughly read how he arrived at this conclusion? Allthough... when I set out to read the Bible cover to cover, I was amazed how many devout Christians confessed they had never read the complete Bible. I wanted to know for myself why I believed in something. It seems odd to me that most people have read many self help books, biographies, Harlequins, etc. start to finish, yet the very book they profess to adhere to, base their life and the way they live their life on, base their afterlife on, base their existance on... well... they haven't bothered to read.
Everyone should get this book, if only to provide proof to friends, family, doctors perhaps, and confirm Morgellon's exsists.
If someone truly is strapped for money but wants a copy... I'mgetti ng two so i am happy to send my copy to read. Just pm me if this is the case.
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Post by Mouse on Aug 18, 2005 8:11:21 GMT -5
Curious, but mine was just a couple of papers stapled together, not really "published" through anyone except this guy's photocopy machine. I wasn't really impressed, anyone else have thoughts?
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Post by ruth on Aug 18, 2005 10:00:13 GMT -5
i am a LPN. i got the book and have read it about 4 times so far. he says alot in his monograph, if i were forced to critique it, i would suggest using spell check,
with this book we have the (door) information needed to be treated by an m.d. and to get medicaid to pay for it. there is no way i could pay for this treatment on my own, it is very expenisive, but effective for me.
this man in my opinion should absolutely win a noble prize for seeing and exploring this affliction. he appears not motivated by greed, but the truth, for us.
i think God must have his back as we've all been praying for an advocate for many years that won't leave us hanging when the going gets tough.
i have been around for years and i know a lot of doctors have said they'd help us, then bail out of sight
Dr. Schwartz is a brave man. he understands there are an array of mutated , specie jumping parasites let loose, not just s. maltos. (by culturing) but he also found (in lab) that the (avelox) quinine breaks the bonds and the sulfur prevents reproduction
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Post by Not interested on Aug 18, 2005 11:16:58 GMT -5
I haven't ordered the book. I will not be ordering the book, nor will I ever encourage others to do so. Why? Pages of papers stapled together, self-published, borrowing from others and using most of the information contained within those pages, and yes, I've heard the punctuation and spelling left much to be desired. One of you posted that Dr. Schwartz "book" is the only publication of its kind. What about all the newspaper, television and radio accounts? What about the Popular Mechanics story and what about the NPA publication, which, by the way, is the ONLY published scientific data to date. My opinion is this. Any person suffering our disease could have written something similar, made copies, stapled it together, called it a book and peddled it to the suffering. Do I hear a cash register somewhere in the background or was it someone's teeth chattering? What did you learn from this "book," really? Did you learn the symptoms reported are much like your own? Did you learn the medical profession turns a deaf ear and a blind eye? Did you learn those who suffer are frequently diagnosed with Delusions of Parasitosis? Did you learn family and friends of the afflicted person frequently doubt them? Did you learn it appears our disease is epidemic? Did you learn people are suffering greatly and many have lost everything? Did you learn Lyme Disease may be involved and is, for some? Did you learn Springtails, algae, fungal spores and whatever else were found in skin scrapings from people who participated in a study in Oklahoma? After reading this stapled together publication what did you learn that was actually new?
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Post by Mouse on Aug 18, 2005 13:56:49 GMT -5
I was not going to complain about the spelling, grammar, and punctuation, but his book is actually not a publication.
I propose that Dr. S. IS trying to make a profit, as there is no way this book could have cost $24.99 to make.
I respect Dr. Schwartz, but a publication requires printing and approval in a major medical journal, like journal of veterinary entomology or similar.
It's a baby step though.
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Post by Not Interested on Aug 18, 2005 16:43:44 GMT -5
Mouse, thank you for your honesty.
No, Dr. Schwartz "book" couldn't even be classified as a publication.
I repeat that any one of us could have spent a little time gleaning information from the work of others, slapped it into some sort of orderly fashion, stapled it, called it ours and played the "Look what I did" role.
Unlike you, I do not respect Dr. Schwartz.
Unlike you, I do not consider Dr. Schwartz little "publication" a baby step. (forward)
Instead, I consider it a GIANT step backward, and I believe anyone who shares it with a physician will be the butt of total ridicule.
No offense to you, Mouse. I respect your opinion, but I feel I must express my own opinion as well.
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Post by bugsalive2 on Aug 18, 2005 21:33:55 GMT -5
Hello Everybody,
I can't believe that anyone would compare Dr. Schwartz's pamphlet to the Bible. That comparison is totally ridiculous.
Personally, I don't believe that S. maltophilia is the cause of morgellons. In my opinion, this organism comes nowhere near having the abilities that the morgellons pathogen has.
I also believe that if S. maltophilia was the cause of morgellons, the US Government would find a way to silence or ridicule the doctor.
Don't think for a minute that the doctor isn't making money. If the misinformation in his "so-called" publication is accepted as the truth, he'll also have the prestige that comes with it. I think the whole thing is a scam.
Respectfully Yours, Bugs Alive
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Post by JEFF on Aug 18, 2005 22:33:29 GMT -5
KNOW YOUR GOING TO TAKE THIS WRONG BUT WHAT QUALIFICATIONS DO YOU HAVE AGAINST A WORLD RENOWNED DOCTOR WHO HAS BEEN AWARD THE GALLOP, THE GIRRAFE, ONE OF THE TOP SCIENTIST OF THE 21ST CENTURY, WRITTEN AND EDITIED SEVERAL MAJOR PUBLICATIONS, AND HAS WRITTEN A BOOK ABOUT THIS CONDITION AND TALKED TO HUNDREDS OF DOCTORS ABOUT THIS DIESEASE, AND HAS PRACTICED MEDICINE FOR SOMETHING LIKE 30 YEARS AFTER GRADUATION WITH A 4.0 IN MEDICAL SCHOOL.....I JUST HAVE TO ASK YOU HOW CAN YOU STAND AGAINST THIS...HAVE YOUR PREFORMED AUTOPSY ON A MORGELLONS DECEASED AND FOUND FIBERS IN THE BRAIN, GALLBLADDER, SMALL INTESTINE....HAVE YOU EVEN EVER SEEN THE INSIDE OF A HUMAN BRAIN, OR WORKED GIVIN INSTRUCTIONS TO A LAB ON PROPER TECHNIQUES TO GROW THIS THING ON A SLIDE....humm... ??SO HOW CAN YOU SAY YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS.....ILL STICK WITH SWARTZ YOU CAN STICK WITH WHATEVER YOU THINK...THERE YOU GO TWISTING WORDS AGAIN...I COMPARED READING THE BOOK AND UNDERSTANDING AS TO READING THE BIBLE AND UNDERSTANDING....JESUS PROBABLY DIDNT CARE IF HE WAS A GOOD SPELLER OR NOT..OR WHAT HE LOOKED LIKE...HE WORE RAGS AND SANDLES...AND POEPLE MOCKED HIM AND THEN KILLED HIM..
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Post by bugsalive2 on Aug 19, 2005 1:03:53 GMT -5
Jeff,
You shouldn't say things that you know nothing about. Jesus wore a very expensive one piece garment, similar to long johns under his outer clothes. It was hand woven and given to him as a gift. He never was reported as having worn rags, although I imagine that some of them were shredded by the sharp bones that were woven into the tails on the Roman'whip. Jesus and his disciples also had a considerable amount of money in the bag that Judas carried. They were well fed and and the Bible suggested measures to take to maintain good health. It also encouraged cleanliness. As far as his abilities are concerned, he was a professional whose profession required considerable mathematical abilities, and since he was a professional speaker and a master of at least two languages, one would think that he also cared about his spelling.
Respectfully Yours, Bugs Alive
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Post by jj on Aug 19, 2005 9:41:21 GMT -5
I find Dr. Schwartz's coming out (Coast to Coast broadcast), so called publication with declaration of personal knowledge, research, lab work including autopsy the way it has been discribed here hard to fathom. On the broadcast he described having one treated patient who relapses after going off medication. Now all of a sudden (a few months) after the broadcast he's THE RENOUND AUTHORITY OF THIS CONDITION! If one looks at everything described as personal accomplishments in ref. to this condition it doesn't appear humanly possible by one man. One could go to Elliot's Research Library, NUSPA and other boards and compile the same information from the last ten years and call it his own. I've read about all the things discussed in his publication from others experiences. .............. If proper documentation of personal research with labwork and microscopic images as verification that spanned these ten years was included in a publication then I would be impressed but this clearly isn't the case. This whole situation just rubs me the wrong way. ............... Still hangin, JJ
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Post by linda on Aug 19, 2005 11:46:35 GMT -5
Hey all,
I have to admit, I was going to order this "book." Now that I hear it is not even a book, I am hesitant. Again, it appears Schwartz may be not Jesus (Jeff's cult-like ideological reference), but a wolfe in sheep's clothing (remember, he even looks like one). From reading other's posts, I was beginning to believe that he might be telling us what we want to hear. He would then have a book-buying audience, at least among us. Like "not interested," I want some news. I want a real breakthrough in understanding. If he can't even edit his "book," he loses a lot of credibility with me (no ethos). I wouldn't want to present a sloppy piece of work to my doctor; I too believe that doing so may just encourage the DOP diagnosis. Honestly Jeff, I wish I could feel differently about this guy, but I get more of a used car salesman feeling with him than I do a sincere, concerned doctor/researcher. That is not to say that the Septra doesn't work--I'm sure it does. But the fact that is works doesn't explain what is going on. I want to know.
Now, why isn't he working with the Morgellons Foundation?
Take Care, Linda
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Post by Anony Annie on Aug 19, 2005 13:30:32 GMT -5
Jeff, your caps lock please? It's hard enough to read what you write without the blur from the caps. "shouting" through typing doesnt really sell me as much as a calm, lower-case conversation.
I have to say, Mouse, if it really was stapled together, it's not a publication. Can I respect a doctor who charged me 25 bucks for a little pamphlet? It's not a publication, there is no publisher. I could have done that in my basement, and charged you $10 and still made a profit.
If he really cares, couldn't he have run spell-check? There's no correlation between being a smart person and spelling skills, but spellcheck for a "publication" is a common courtesy.
What the heck IS the giraffe award?
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Post by Administration on Aug 19, 2005 15:19:21 GMT -5
I wonder myself why Swartz hasnt stepped forward and taken a stand with the media, medical community, Morgellons RF.. even the Lyme Drs who are trying to help. Why does he stay to himself? Why hasnt he made this huge entrance in the science world claiming to have the answers to all this? Why is there no answers as to why so many are Lyme positive? And are they really Lyme positive or is it some cross reaction? He needs to speak up Jeff and explain some things apparently.. I wouldnt mind buying his book.. and am more than interested in his theory. But $24.99? I want to hear it from him the why, where and how first. I never drank bottled water.. I was sick with Lyme symptoms for years before I developed Morgellons and got rid of it with regular antibiotics.. I think the people just need to know more about him before investing money like that into somethng that may very well be another dead end. Keep in mind many of us are disabled now and are getting no income.. Why will he not make a stand for us to the medical system? We are looking for a leader who has the answers.. I think that may be the problem.. Kerry
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Post by Administration on Aug 19, 2005 15:22:52 GMT -5
Maybe people are waiting to see how many recover and stay better before they take the plunge? Just a thought...
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Post by Guest on Aug 19, 2005 16:47:48 GMT -5
Dear Kerry,
I so appreciate you...your voice is louder than you think on this board. I wanted to ask you, if you don't mind, what you meant when you said you "got rid of it with regular antibiotics." The Morgellons? or the Lyme Disease? What were your symptoms with regard to Morgellons. I'm new here and to Morgellons. At this point, I am too scared to give my name, but I am so thankful to have someone with a heart to connect to. My children have this and I am so overwhelmed. I don't know if I have Lyme Disease..all I know is that I thought we had scabies, but found some springtails in our environment when they didn't go away with the usual treatment. I have the black flecks, crawling, and granules, maybe a few fibers. What would you advise me on how to go about getting proper treatment?
Thank you. Guest
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Post by JEFF on Aug 19, 2005 21:36:42 GMT -5
dont listen to these poeple yes it is in a mini paper back size with no cover...but it is 40 something pages that looks like it took years to reasearch...these poeple are sick...remember we are on the internet...we have attracted all sorts of poeple here....you know what its your problem if you dont get the info...it is right..i have nothing more to say Hey all, I have to admit, I was going to order this "book." Now that I hear it is not even a book, I am hesitant. Again, it appears Schwartz may be not Jesus (Jeff's cult-like ideological reference), but a wolfe in sheep's clothing (remember, he even looks like one). From reading other's posts, I was beginning to believe that he might be telling us what we want to hear. He would then have a book-buying audience, at least among us. Like "not interested," I want some news. I want a real breakthrough in understanding. If he can't even edit his "book," he loses a lot of credibility with me (no ethos). I wouldn't want to present a sloppy piece of work to my doctor; I too believe that doing so may just encourage the DOP diagnosis. Honestly Jeff, I wish I could feel differently about this guy, but I get more of a used car salesman feeling with him than I do a sincere, concerned doctor/researcher. That is not to say that the Septra doesn't work--I'm sure it does. But the fact that is works doesn't explain what is going on. I want to know. Now, why isn't he working with the Morgellons Foundation? Take Care, Linda
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Post by to jeff on Aug 19, 2005 22:01:49 GMT -5
[quote author=JEFF board=general but it is 40 something pages that looks like it took years to reasearch...
emphasis on looks
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