Baculovirus is Identified as Morgellons

[kammy]

Do you recall researcher Baraka's video of "Morgellons Forming", this is his blood on a slide with no cover -

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPodyogcOzg



Doesn't what he's showing look just like this photo below?

Stock photo of macrophage (NETs)
at Imageshack:

When I looked at my blood on a slide, I didn't realize what I was seeing - I believe my blood is showing the same characteristics, AND yours should too?

my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Blood2index.htm

I believe we're seeing the macrophage/NET creation process happening in Baraka's and in my blood video? (This needs looked into closer - HOW the macrophage and NETs are created?)

Just thinking out loud here... The body naturally creates a 'spider web' fiber network to trap pathogens... in most of us, this web is dissolved/carried away? naturally by our white cells?... certain enzymes do this job?... and possibly some of us have a genetic disorder? that we're missing a gene/enzyme?... that will not allow us to carry these 'fibers' away.

AND... from what we are being told from scientific testing - our natural NET fibers are somehow compromised/coated with silicon-like material? The majority of people with the genetics in place CAN carry this 'silicon' away, however those of us that don't have this gene cannot and therefore we're showing evident Morgellons?

Input anyone?

[fritolay66]

Kammy, I just saw your posts and will be back this afternoon. Yep, sure do have some input.

Frito

[kammy]

Yeah, Frito! I look forward to it!...

I just wanted to note this for future reference, feel free to comment:

my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Neutrophil.htm

[ruth]

yes, ive wondered if the similarities we have are
actually products of the immune system.
the macrophages, the netting, etc.

[kammy]

Jan 13, 2010 14:54:25 GMT -5 ruth said:

yes, ive wondered if the similarities we have are
actually products of the immune system.
the macrophages, the netting, etc.

Ty, Ruth... Yes! Makes sense - our lesions don't show normal infection signals because the pathogen IS (partially) a natural part of the immune system? That's possibly why certain testing comes back as 'normal', 'nothing found' - when indeed we know better?

[jeany]

Three Approved GMO Crops Linked to Organ Damage, New Study Shows

www.naturalnews.com/027931_GMO_crops_organ_damage.html

....Gilles-Eric Seralini, a molecular biologist at the University of Caen and one of the principals in the study, says that the data "clearly underlines adverse impacts on kidneys and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, as well as different levels of damages to heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system."

[skytroll]

Yes, a fungus was used, but there is a correlation between fungus and algae.

A type of cyanobacteria, and Lichen somehow is involved. They seem to form
the ribbon like fibers, Lichen is the crossover of fungus and algae mixed, but,
could be the amyloid fibers formed from yeast and or fungus as the picture shows.

A way to use the protein from a fungus, and protozoan, possible, the diatoms,
which are formed in algae, and insect stem cells, worm stem cells, etc. This is
why some depending on genes, will react differently.

The models used:

E-coli, prokaryote, forms flagellum
S. cerevisceae, yeast, and S. Pombe, forms amyloid fibers
Arabdopsis plant, seed?
C. elegans worm
Drosophila fly
Zebra fish
Chicken, involving collagen
Mouse, which grew a human ear on its back.

Incidently, there are some scientists who are attempting to uncover this.

It is hard because our genetic systems are different, and yet all can be
read somehow, this is done by I believe eletrophysiology recordings
from particles. That is where the self assembling particles and nano
is evident, If you have medical reports on blood, check to see if
there is a D-Dimer count. That will show you that these dimers form
when something is amiss. Relates to blood and melanin somehow.

Maybe a look at blood type again, might help to know if the antigen
on the blood is changed. A or B each had an H antigen, and that
was changed by use of a bacterial glycoside to correlate with
the antigen on the O blood. The antigen was formed from
a bacterial enzyme or peptide.

I am B+, the last time I checked! They do want to make Universal
O blood, as stated on one of my threads. That is one gene
the blood gene, cell, etc changed.

There are more. The muscle fiber gene, the eye gene, the plasmid,
but to change one thing many genes, proteins, enzymes, and peptides
were used, some artificial, some from nature. some from chemical
reactions, some from electromagnetic/electrical voltage increases
or decreases. Much involved. That is why some in different stages,
different kinds of fibers, but, the main and first change was done
by integration into cell, folding and unfolding, prions from
s. cervis. was used and then found they could electrify them
in nanotubes.

It was and is a process.

from bio changes to electrical, to chemical and minerals found like Ruthenium,
cobalt, cadmium, zinc, nickel, etc. they call them metalloproteins.
fullerenes, and into the buckyball, DNA is bigger than the buckyball, that
ball has a central submicron particle, it is that particle that starts the whole
ball rolling. I believe it changes the nucleus of the cell, itself. From then
on depending on your genes, the changes begin.

It is highly involved, you have one creating the changes, another trying to
fix it using artificial dna, but, it is the reasoning behind it. Why?

Road to Epigenetics.

The perfect humans.

However, we are suffering from integrating this, either one.

The biological from other organisms and the artificial from organic/inorganic
biology and chemistry and positive or negative electrons.

hope that makes sense, this is so hard, but, am finding these 12 genes or more
that are being altered.

Genetic testing from reliable lab would be beneficial for us.

I do not know much about this, but, may help us? not sure. seems money involved here!
or the wave of the future, gene therapy? not sure.

===================

23 and Me.

www.23andme.com/howitworks/

---------------------------------

23 double strand DNA, the original? or where we are now in this process?


Skytroll

[skytroll]

Excellent video, shows haires are formed from a fugilinous vapour, as described
in Sir Thomas Brownes, papers and others at that time.

That vapor? Nobel gases? hairs formed from a gas. What is that gas?

Catabolism? or true noble gases?

Begins with gas forming particles.

This new modern Periodic Table will give us clues to new chemistries being used.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Periodic_table.svg

This is def a learning process for us all. But, the evidence is seen in the videos,
the photos, and the comparisons you are making here on this forum.

I study all your works, I just recently got a better microscope and can verify
your findings as well now. I will not send photos, you all have the rights
to yours, and you have the evidence. Keep at it. I cherish all here.

We will make it and it is because of all of you, each and every one.

Keep the light burning!

Skytroll

[kammy]

Skytroll - a wealth of information! I see where the DNA testing at the link you left us:

www.23andme.com/howitworks/

is $429... which is probably real reasonable and we know it's going to come down to that in order to figure out what's really happened to us. If you have the money, it would be a good investment.

I'm hoping to get some answers here in Germany... most of us can't afford the $429... I'm hoping my Insurance will contribute to various testing since the doctors here aren't 'dictated to' by the Insurance companies.

What testing would you recommend that an American doctor might agree to run to start to 'see' our disease?

Jeany was telling me that her initial sets of blood work with her GP came back as everything was ok, that it took the Lyme doctors' more advanced testing, in particular the ELISPOT, to start to see her illness. I'm telling her that this is probably where most in America are at... since the Insurance Companies will not allow doctors to run speculative blood tests based on the basic one showing that nothing or very little is wrong?

[kammy]

Chronic granulomatous disease

www.cigna.com/healthinfo/nord682.html

"Chronic granulomatous disease (CGD) is a rare inherited primary immune deficiency disorder that affects certain white blood corpuscles (neutrophils, monocytes, macrophages, eosinophils). The disorder is characterized by an inability to resist repeated infectious diseases and a tendency to develop chronic inflammation. Life-threatening recurrent fungal and bacterial infections affecting the skin, lungs, and bones may occur along with swollen areas of inflamed tissues known as granulomas that can be widely distributed. Symptoms usually begin in infancy or childhood. Individuals with mild forms of the disorder may not develop symptoms until the teens or adulthood. Chronic granulomatous disease is a genetic disorder and is caused by inherited defects in an important enzyme in white blood cells that manufactures oxidants for microbial killing."

www.healthcaremagic.com/articles/Impotent-Neutrophil-Syndrome/3736

Tests and diagnosis

Complete blood count
Blood culture, antibiotic culture and sensitivity
Nitroblue tetrazolium (NBT) dye test
Flow cytometric reduction tests
Chest X-ray and CT chest

**I mentioned to Jeany that chronic ear aches and infections, Chronic Bronchitis, Chronic sinusitis, chronic cough, and Gilchrist Disease as children is a symptom of this disease. Jeany and I both had chronic ear aches/infections - how many others also had this symptom?

[kammy]

Hi Skytroll... here's an abstract that I just read that's a little over my head, it has me wondering?...

The search guidelines are "how to repair the PHOX enzyme complex" - which is the enzyme complex that correlates with CGD to be in good working order.

www.uphs.upenn.edu/ifem/ins/wei-dual%20role%20of%20Rac.pdf

"Preparation of Phagocyte Membrane Vesicles—Membranes were prepared from mineral oil-elicited guinea pig peritoneal macrophages, as described earlier (28).

Preparation of Non-chimeric Recombinant Proteins—p47phox was prepared in baculovirus-infected Sf9 cells, as described earlier (35). Non-prenylated Rac1, Rac1 mutants A27K, G30S, and Q61L, Rac1 truncated at residue 178 (Rac1-(1–178)) or 185 (Rac1-(1–185)), GDP dissociation inhibitor for Rho (Rho GDI), and p67phox, truncated at residue 212 (p67phox-(1–212)), were produced in Escherichia coli, as described earlier (26, 35, 36)."

[fritolay66]

Okay, let me catchup with you guys.

Kammys quote:

Yeah, Frito! I look forward to it!...

I just wanted to note this for future reference, feel free to comment:

my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/Neutrophil.htm

I am very familar with this stock photo which is also in yahoo searches.

Ruths quote:

yes, ive wondered if the similarities we have are
actually products of the immune system.
the macrophages, the netting, etc.

Kammys quote:

Ty, Ruth... Yes! Makes sense - our lesions don't show normal infection signals because the pathogen IS (partially) a natural part of the immune system? That's possibly why certain testing comes back as 'normal', 'nothing found' - when indeed we know better?

Yes, yes, finally!! That is exactly what part of our lesions and debris are. But only in part.

Once a pathogen is introduced into the skin, there are a variety of non-specific passive defense systems for containing or eliminating the pathogens. Yes, we are seeing these in response to a pathogen in our samples. It is this in which it makes it so difficult to be seen by some of our "docs". And is most definately putting a wrench into identification.

Still catching up....

Frito

[fritolay66]

Jeany,

Three Approved GMO Crops Linked to Organ Damage, New Study Shows

www.naturalnews.com/027931_GMO_crops_organ_damage.html

....Gilles-Eric Seralini, a molecular biologist at the University of Caen and one of the principals in the study, says that the data "clearly underlines adverse impacts on kidneys and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, as well as different levels of damages to heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system."

This is my own personal opinion, but I really do think that GMO's and vaccinations, the pharmaceuticals, including antibiotics, all contribute to a compromised immune system. Although some of these can and do directly affect both systems, others affect our endocrine and metabolic systems contributing to the loss as well.

It goes against the very nature of a natural diet and lifestyle. There are just that which we shouldn't be mixing, and they are. With all these so called advances, you would think the occurence of disease would be a dwindling number, but it isn't. In fact, it is rising, and yet it says nothing to those whom are not paying attention. The general public.

I like the article you posted. GMO's were banned in other countries due to their own findings associated with its consumption. I posted a long time ago, a letter written by scientists all over the world in a plea to place a moretorium on the use of GMO's. in this letter it outlines what happens in the body when GMO's are used for nutrition. Does anybody know where that was at?

Frito

[fritolay66]

Sky,

Yes, a fungus was used, but there is a correlation between fungus and algae.

A type of cyanobacteria, and Lichen somehow is involved. They seem to form
the ribbon like fibers, Lichen is the crossover of fungus and algae mixed, but,
could be the amyloid fibers formed from yeast and or fungus as the picture shows.

A lichen is a fungus in which lives symbiotically with algae by using cyanobacteria. I think we are both saying the same thing.

But here is some more info for those whom may not know.

Lichens are composite, symbiotic organisms made up from members of as many as three kingdoms.

The dominant partner is a fungus. Fungi are incapable of making their own food. They usually provide for themselves as parasites or decomposers.

"Lichens are fungi that have discovered agriculture"-- lichenologist Trevor Goward.

The lichen fungi (kingdom Fungi) cultivate partners that manufacture food by photosynthesis. Sometimes the partners are algae (kingdom Protista), other times cyanobacteria (kingdom Monera), formerly called blue-green algae. Some enterprising fungi exploit both at once.



The amyloid fibers and beta proteins I believe are formed by the serum, transferrin. The serum is part of what I mentioned earlier, in that is a part of a non specific response of the immune system with the introduction to a pathogen. Especially within the skin and in response to a pathogen such as fungii. Unsaturated transferrin. Is inhibitory to the growth of fungii and is thought to be correlated to the cellular respiration of the fungii. So then we get into cellular respiration by either glycolysis, the KREBS cycle, (which Kammy has introduced prior), or the electron transport chain. All three of these are part of cellular respiration, and all cells either eurokaryotic or prokaryotic, use one or all of these.

It is within cellular respiration that you can correlate some of our lab results. Such as high CO2 levels, low blood iron content, high ammonia levels, etc.

A way to use the protein from a fungus, and protozoan, possible, the diatoms,
which are formed in algae, and insect stem cells, worm stem cells, etc. This is
why some depending on genes, will react differently.

The models used:

E-coli, prokaryote, forms flagellum
S. cerevisceae, yeast, and S. Pombe, forms amyloid fibers
Arabdopsis plant, seed?
C. elegans worm
Drosophila fly
Zebra fish
Chicken, involving collagen
Mouse, which grew a human ear on its back.

Incidently, there are some scientists who are attempting to uncover this.

My gawd, that is interesting.

It is hard because our genetic systems are different, and yet all can be
read somehow, this is done by I believe eletrophysiology recordings
from particles. That is where the self assembling particles and nano
is evident, If you have medical reports on blood, check to see if
there is a D-Dimer count. That will show you that these dimers form
when something is amiss. Relates to blood and melanin somehow.

Maybe a look at blood type again, might help to know if the antigen
on the blood is changed. A or B each had an H antigen, and that
was changed by use of a bacterial glycoside to correlate with
the antigen on the O blood. The antigen was formed from
a bacterial enzyme or peptide.

I am B+, the last time I checked! They do want to make Universal
O blood, as stated on one of my threads. That is one gene
the blood gene, cell, etc changed.

There are more. The muscle fiber gene, the eye gene, the plasmid,
but to change one thing many genes, proteins, enzymes, and peptides
were used, some artificial, some from nature. some from chemical
reactions, some from electromagnetic/electrical voltage increases
or decreases. Much involved. That is why some in different stages,
different kinds of fibers, but, the main and first change was done
by integration into cell, folding and unfolding, prions from
s. cervis. was used and then found they could electrify them
in nanotubes.

It was and is a process.

from bio changes to electrical, to chemical and minerals found like Ruthenium,
cobalt, cadmium, zinc, nickel, etc. they call them metalloproteins.
fullerenes, and into the buckyball, DNA is bigger than the buckyball, that
ball has a central submicron particle, it is that particle that starts the whole
ball rolling. I believe it changes the nucleus of the cell, itself. From then
on depending on your genes, the changes begin.

It is highly involved, you have one creating the changes, another trying to
fix it using artificial dna, but, it is the reasoning behind it. Why?

Road to Epigenetics.

The perfect humans.

However, we are suffering from integrating this, either one.

The biological from other organisms and the artificial from organic/inorganic
biology and chemistry and positive or negative electrons.

hope that makes sense, this is so hard, but, am finding these 12 genes or more
that are being altered.

Genetic testing from reliable lab would be beneficial for us.

I cannot thank you enough for the full explanation. The genetics stuff I just don't know, and I am so glad you understand it.

Frito

[kammy]

Terminology - There are many names that all represent white blood cells with various functions depending on where they are found in the body, their characteristics and where they are produced.

www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/rattler/46/blood3.htm

There are five types of white blood cells

neutrophils 40 - 75 %
eosinophils 5 %
basophils 0.5 %
lymphocytes 20 - 50 %
monocytes 1 - 5 %
The figures show the relative proportions of the different types of white blood cell. The reason for the range of figures shown is that the requirement for different types of white blood cell will vary from time to time.

Neutrophils, eosinophils and basophils are collectively known as granulocytes due to prominent granules in their cytoplasm.

Lymphocytes and monocytes are classed as white blood cells because they are a constituent of blood and ultimately originate from the bone marrow. However they are mainly found in structures such as the lymph nodes and the spleen."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phagocyte

Phagocytes are the white blood cells that protect the body by ingesting (phagocytosing) harmful foreign particles, bacteria, and dead or dying cells.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macrophage

Macrophages are white blood cells within tissues, produced by the division of monocytes.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immune_system

Leukocytes (white blood cells) act like independent, single-celled organisms and are the second arm of the innate immune system.[5] The innate leukocytes include the phagocytes (macrophages, neutrophils, and dendritic cells), mast cells, eosinophils, basophils, and natural killer cells.

Dendritic cells (DC) are phagocytes in tissues that are in contact with the external environment; therefore, they are located mainly in the skin, nose, lungs, stomach, and intestines.

Mast cells reside in connective tissues and mucous membranes, and regulate the inflammatory response.[37] They are most often associated with allergy and anaphylaxis. Basophils and eosinophils are related to neutrophils. They secrete chemical mediators that are involved in defending against parasites and play a role in allergic reactions, such as asthma.[38] Natural killer (NK cells) cells are leukocytes that attack and destroy tumor cells, or cells that have been infected by viruses.[39]

Disorders of human immunity

The immune system is a remarkably effective structure that incorporates specificity, inducibility and adaptation. Failures of host defense do occur, however, and fall into three broad categories: immunodeficiencies, autoimmunity, and hypersensitivities.

Diets lacking sufficient protein are associated with impaired cell-mediated immunity, complement activity, phagocyte function, IgA antibody concentrations, and cytokine production. Deficiency of single nutrients such as iron; copper; zinc; selenium; vitamins A, C, E, and B6; and folic acid (vitamin B9) also reduces immune responses.[60] Additionally, the loss of the thymus at an early age through genetic mutation or surgical removal results in severe immunodeficiency and a high susceptibility to infection.[61]

Immunodeficiencies can also be inherited or 'acquired'.[5] Chronic granulomatous disease, where phagocytes have a reduced ability to destroy pathogens, is an example of an inherited, or congenital, immunodeficiency. AIDS and some types of cancer cause acquired immunodeficiency.[62][63]"

[fritolay66]

Sky,

Thank you again.

Excellent video, shows haires are formed from a fugilinous vapour, as described
in Sir Thomas Brownes, papers and others at that time.

That vapor? Nobel gases? hairs formed from a gas. What is that gas?

Catabolism? or true noble gases?

Begins with gas forming particles.

This new modern Periodic Table will give us clues to new chemistries being used.

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Periodic_table.svg

You have made me giddy with glee to get ahold of this.

Frito

[fritolay66]

Chronic granulomatous disease

www.cigna.com/healthinfo/nord682.html

"Chronic granulomatous disease (CGD) is a rare inherited primary immune deficiency disorder that affects certain white blood corpuscles (neutrophils, monocytes, macrophages, eosinophils). The disorder is characterized by an inability to resist repeated infectious diseases and a tendency to develop chronic inflammation. Life-threatening recurrent fungal and bacterial infections affecting the skin, lungs, and bones may occur along with swollen areas of inflamed tissues known as granulomas that can be widely distributed. Symptoms usually begin in infancy or childhood. Individuals with mild forms of the disorder may not develop symptoms until the teens or adulthood. Chronic granulomatous disease is a genetic disorder and is caused by inherited defects in an important enzyme in white blood cells that manufactures oxidants for microbial killing."

www.healthcaremagic.com/articles/Impotent-Neutrophil-Syndrome/3736

Tests and diagnosis

Complete blood count
Blood culture, antibiotic culture and sensitivity
Nitroblue tetrazolium (NBT) dye test
Flow cytometric reduction tests
Chest X-ray and CT chest

**I mentioned to Jeany that chronic ear aches and infections, Chronic Bronchitis, Chronic sinusitis, chronic cough, and Gilchrist Disease as children is a symptom of this disease. Jeany and I both had chronic ear aches/infections - how many others also had this symptom?

Granulomatous disease is not only a genetic disease. I believe it can also be acquired as a reactionary disease to the underlying culprit.

Yes, I also had chroninc ear infections as a child. But my son did not, and he has this too. In fact, my sons medical history is quite the opposite of my own. I really believe we are suffering Granulomatosis due to Morgellons, and not suffering Morgellons due to GMD.

Frito

[kammy]

Jan 13, 2010 18:43:01 GMT -5 fritolay66 said:

Granulomatous disease is not only a genetic disease. I believe it can also be acquired as a reactionary disease to the underlying culprit.

I really believe we are suffering Granulomatosis due to Morgellons, and not suffering Morgellons due to GMD.

Frito

Yes, it can be acquired... good deduction, probably right. There are some other immune diseases that I wanted to look at also.

Here's what I'm thinking... you know how we said that we see one cell/sphere - they appear to all to look the same - BUT... they reproduce differently and seem to have different functions?

I have listed the various white cells - I KNOW I have photos of human samples of the phagocyte in action by the way it functions and reproduces. I'm wondering if I look at the various functions or ways that these other white cells reproduce if I will also notice that they have been photographed and are a part of the Morgellons Circus?

If they are in my photographs - what does this mean? Let me look and see...

A Question: You know how Carnicom is claiming that he is finding red blood cells in his experiments? Would a white blood cell show up as a red blood cell with his testing methods, does the test he's using differentiate between the two?

[jeany]

'white blood cell can sprout legs and move like millipedes'

[jeany]