Baculovirus is Identified as Morgellons

[kammy]

Hi Frito, I hope you're doing ok?

I have the ear photos over here on this thread - those look more like the rain water / air spores on the other thread? Yes, they look really close to Experiment 3 - after massive chemtrailing and don't forget the volcanic ash. Jeany looked it up, the ash is mostly made of the same compounds that the chaff is, which we found interesting, a double dose, something to place blame on?...

My ear didn't show with anything, Frito... (2 different tests) but, we can have the docs look for cladisporium.

[fritolay66]

Hi Kammy,

Well shoot, I was hoping to have posted those under the right thread. But yes, I remember something about the environment and the pictures you displayed reminded me of what I had growing in my own petris. Cladiosporium Herbarum or however you spell it right, is one of the fungii identified in the natural link mold lab results. Also identified in Sidneys nasal fungal culture, and the same of which was cultured from my nasal passages. Hers was a deep culture where as mine was done un-professionally. We both also have in common the penecillium family although our species identifications were different.

Do you have a link back to those pictures I saw so I don't have to search? My computer is running very slow due to some updates. Anybody know how to go back to an earlier version?

Thank you for inquiring on how I am doing. I know we have had differences in the past, but it does mean a lot. Anywho, your ear. You said it failed to grow anything out twice. Are you talking bacterial or fungal? My forehead lesion was tested many times for bacteria, and failed to grow anything out at all. Only had success in identifying a fungal issue. Additonallly, my ear was also tested and failed to grow anything out bacterial wise.

Have you considered mycoplasma? I believe there was a study at one time in the Morgellons arena where 16 tested positive for mycoplasma fermentens? I think I have been able to grow that out. I am going to confirm with mycoplasma agar I have on order. They were only a couple of bucks a piece. Another thing I considered with my own lesion was an autoimmune response, which I believe in some form was taking place, very similar to Lupus and in which is also linked to mycoplasma.

I have something I would like to send you that may help with your ear and that spot under your eye. How much is it to ship over to Germany?

As far as the birdmites, I am waiting to pass the nine and 30 day marks. Fingers crossed. We seem to be healing from the horrid little bites. I will never doubt again, that these nasty little mites cannot live on ones person. The sources on the internet are crap. I may have doubted the first time, but I don't this time.

Going to look for experiment three again.

Frito

[kammy]

I'm still in the middle of the rain water/air experiment, the main purpose of that experiment is to give me an indication of or if the chemtrailing is helping curb these Morgellons-like pathogens that are being found in the air and rain water or not. Of course, a simple Petri Dish experiment is not enough to make that determination, this information would have to be turned over to someone who can scientifically validate my conclusions or not. There is a large group here who are presently discussing stopping all chemtrailing in this country, they are currently in negotiations with the government. This area is very "BIO"/organic conscious, the people have made it be known, loud and clear to the politicians, that they do not want GMOs, anything unnatural to be put in their food. If certain information, presented in a timely manner - such as I'm indicating got into certain hands, I'm positive certain people could have a 'cow' (as we say back home)... if you catch my drift?

We have not discussed the source precisely with the doctors in our first meeting. We discussed the environment - which they seem to agree. No detailed information was or has been presented yet - I'm still in the middle of drawing conclusions from the experiments. As you can imagine, since this occurs here - I'm not sure how to exactly present this information, there's a lot of unanswered questions around this issue that I can't phantom, if you think about it, what's all the strict controls about over here, how can they put "BIO" on products, if the public knew that 'stuff' was in their food... who's manufacturing this stuff, us or them, and why don't they know what they're doing? I continue to pray for divine guidance in all matters, I need it... lol

My ear has only been cultured for fungus. If these doctors are smart they will take half of the cup of this stuff that comes out of my ear daily and send it somewhere until they figure it out... I may propose that, might speed things up? He just looked at my ear across the desk, I haven't 'started in on him' yet... lol

I think it's important to know what it is... I don't care to be right or wrong - I just want to know what it is so I can get the right medicines, I'm in a race for time because I've gone too long without medicine... of course, it's not ALL about me... I'm about sharing, too. I want everyone to get well... this is the worst thing that could happen to a human being and the way it's gone down is so low... it's the principle of mis-treating humanity on such a large scale with such deception and covertness that is pure evil... (don't get me started...)

I'm about to do some more photography on that particular experiment, Frito - I can quote you here and take it over there on the Zoo Thread since that's where I started? Ok?

Yes, the mites... I think the insecticide that was implicated that all the bees had (on the Zoo Thread) in 23 states... this is a miticide, once thing they have done is target the mite in nature and by doing so has thrown the whole scheme out of balance... this is just one of the many factors in the big picture of what's gone wrong. Not only do I think the mites of the bees are affected, all mites, including human mites - and it looks like a whole lot more...

[kammy]

Digital photo of Ear debris cultured in potato agar on 4/29/10, photo taken on 5/10/10. Represents approximately 11 days growth in potato agar at 100x:

my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/5101042810Ear/05_11_54.JPEG

my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/5101042810Ear/05_11_55.JPEG

my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/5101042810Ear/05_11_56.JPEG

my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/5101042810Ear/05_11_57.JPEG

my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/5101042810Ear/05_11_58.JPEG

(Note: all dishes are going to be put into a baculoviral expression test, that is why I am culturing so many at this time. All dishes are being kept taped shut except at the time of photographing and are being stored inside of a plastic box container.)

[kammy]

Jeany thinks the green looks like penicillin... hey Toni - does my green look like your green? I'm going to culture some tap water next.

NO FUNGAL GROWTH!! ?? (We need to start a cotton business...)

[lilsissy]

I wish someone here could get a small sample of the standard I.V. fluid used in Emergency Rooms and take a culture of it.

If this is nano-wire Human Machine Interface related I think it is highly possible that the starter seeds for this nano wire growth could be cultured.
Take a sterile hypodermic needle and puncture the bag before throwing it away and inject a sealed agar plate . You may make a hole in the agar plastic petri dish by applying a hot needle and sealing with tape.

If you get around anyone in the hospital and can collect a small amount of fluid without to much trouble. I would not do this to a bag in use though.

Fungus is what they use to branch out Molecular wires.



I would love to rule out that possibility and if I get the chance first I will do it but because of time considerations I am passing this on.

If it were to grow structures that would be absolutely huge news. I would or you could do a press release and hospitals around the Country may be forced to check for contamination.
This idea is scary though , it could bring danger if it is true.
It would show intent more than any other substance that could be contaminated.
I.V. fluids show never show contamination or structured growth of any organisms , am I right on that , anybody know?

Here it says nano wiring is applied to a vein in the leg which carries oxygenated blood but I think a I.V. would do it, anybody . I am not a nurse.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgmoz4f8LA4

After reading about what happened to Becky McClain by Pfizer and Baxter International getting the Government Contract for Vaccines after they sent contaminated Vaccine to 18 countries I do believe the are all in bed.

What better way to deliver such agents as most of us have I.V.'s at some time . I know that vaccines also could contain the starter seeds but it would be hard for us to get a sample of them.

I know they do have other ways but it would be easy to tell this way. We would have them busted like never before because chem trails to not come with a manufacturing code and Company name unfortunately.


Thank you to all our researchers.

Jen

B.T.W. never do anything illegal so if it is not possible to do this legally........ well we will have to figure out now to do it right?

[kammy]

Hi Jen! Yes, there IS something dark and deceptive happening all around us - a plan of sorts that makes no sense. Was the story written a long time ago, one that if we run as fast as we can around the treadmill wheel we'll end up where we started again? A plan for which no man can change nor alter that which is to come, no matter what we do?

I cannot believe where my/our research has brought us, I know I'm an amateur but I swear, if any man of science looks - his path will cross mine.

What is THIS plan? It seems 'they' are targeting the weak, the old, the sick, the smokers, the drinkers, children, reproduction, cutting down the population - and leaving a planet that is corrupt and only fit for burning to cleanse - just like we've been told... so, what do we do? I am about to be fed up with what I'm seeing, man's ignorance and total disregard for anything in the name of making money, is beyond my comprehension.

Are we the 144,000? Are we the ones that flee Babylon? Are we the elect few?... I'm looking toward the Hopi for answers tonight, they speak of our Spider Webs, I'm thinking about going and joining them... lol:

www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html

"The Emergence to the future Fifth World has begun. It is being made by the humble people of little nations, tribes, and racial minorities. "You can read this in the earth itself. Plant forms from previous worlds are beginning to spring up as seeds [as described in SW-II, Effects and Coming Events # 1]. This could start a new study of botany if people were wise enough to read them. The same kinds of seeds are being planted in the sky as stars. The same kinds of seeds are being planted in our hearts. All these are the same, depending how you look at them. That is what makes the Emergence to the next, Fifth World.

Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe."

So, it is written... we have a knowledge that very few understand or will ever understand, an advantage to use. Find peace, get right in your spiritual path... know some happiness. The time for fear is over, if you are right with your God, there is nothing to fear.

[kammy]

So, to nearing the end my quest on trying to find the answers as to "Why?" "What is the reasoning behind all of this insanity, destruction of the planet, man, the species...". To lightly touch on what has transpired to bring us to where we are in this time in the history of man and with my basic understanding of how things work, I can only somewhat reach a conclusion drawn upon what is known and what man is capable of.

If we study the roots of science we find the legends of the alchemist. To the common folk these men of science were supposedly trying to turn lead into gold, etc., however, their true philosophies and what their secretly coded writing held was something of a higher nature. To prevent them from being persecuted for their religious beliefs, they disguised their work with occult symbols, chemical symbols and writings that only they understood. Their writings and beliefs were only shared with those they deemed worthy - the select few. The Freemasons and other groups arose from their teachings.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4Wk6EXiIcM&feature=channel

The kabala is symbolic of man's religious journey, the foundations of meditation, our lives passing to find our higher consciousnesses, that's what alchemy was truly about but got lost in the translations. The men of science used only the chemical information to advance the fields of chemistry, physics, etc., but never knew the true aspect of what alchemy was trying to teach them. It was very much tied to the god-mind within all of us, the part that is not being utilized by today's men of science. They are trying to modify the weather, stop certain global aspects from happening, or to create global events, etc. These men are playing God without the full tarot deck, as you can imagine - this subject is deep and lengthy and one could write on it for years but if you look into the creation of the select few organizations who are founded on the science of alchemy, the Freemasons, The Rosicrucians, The New World Order, etc., you will see where the ideas for the creation of our new God has arrived from.

The problem I have is that I perceive their God as a harm to my natural body. I did not want my body, soul, mind, dna, altered, I was happy with the body God gave me at birth. I did not give anyone permission to modify me and especially in the way in which I have been altered. I do not agree with their principles as being forced on me without my knowledge, I had no choice in their decision. Do you want to see what their God, which is now Your God whether you like it or not - looks like?


From a now-modified human being.

Which came first - the fiber or the sphere?... we all contain a piece, particle, atom, dna, etc. of 'The Fiber God'. Congratulations superior men of science!

[ctbarb]

Very profound, Kam! Instead of the good ole chicken and the egg, we can now say " the fiber and the sphere"! Good Job!

Lilsissy, I wished you had made this comment about the IV's before I had umpteen bags of the stuff in the last month! I was hooked up 24/7 for 10 days! I could have easily gotten a sample...!!! You can purchase saline from a vet...used to do that for my diabetic cat to hydrate him daily.... Anyone work for a vet?

More to think about here....thanks again...

Love and prayers,

Barb

[kammy]

TY, Barb.

To understand how high the mountain is that we must climb in order to get our disease seen, studied, and the cause stopped is insurmountable and laughable. Why? Because what Morgellons Disease is - defies all the laws of 'their' realities. It rips right through how every system, every Government agency, our belief foundations have been set up, by whom, and how they have been conceived. And, why 'The Peter Principle' seems to be in place in every organization operating at its full maxim.

Once again, this is a subject matter that would take many books with many volumes to explain what I am trying to convey in a single thread post. To begin to understand what we are up against read these two pages:

www.ourcivilisation.com/whatis/chap14.htm

www.ourcivilisation.com/whatis/chap15.htm

"Corruption Of Tradition Is The Slide Into Communal Senility
As tradition supplies both the understanding and the strength of the community, the corruption of tradition is the destruction of the mind and strength of the community and must render the community senile.

Only The Appearance Of A Society Will Remain
The rational and disciplined society will become like any senile creature, merely a fragile shell as only the appearance remains. And this facade will collapse under the challenges to its existence."

[kammy]

Even those with this disease and somewhat understand it persecute others suffering the same condition.

www.ourcivilisation.com/cure.htm

"Only Changes For the Worse Accepted
Naturally it is possible to persuade contemporary citizens to accept change, but all such change must appeal to an understanding guided by feelings not reason. So regardless of any claim the public may make to the contrary, they will be unable to resist the compulsions of their instincts; the terrors of the fearful are beyond appeals to reason, which is why the threat of Global Warming is so popular and withstands all attempts at debunking. Any citizen who persists in denying that Global Warming is a real threat is either ignored or persecuted. So any attempt to curtail the unnecessary costs and limitations imposed in the name of Global Warming will be resisted, whereas further increases to such costs, or extension of restrictions, will be accepted as a required imposition to save the world.

Can Only Promote Lies And Injustice
To attempt to help such a community is to aid and abet people who hate truth and justice. Those citizens, who feel their duty impels them to try, are taking grave risks for no purpose. Their individual efforts cannot make up for the shortcomings of their society, but they will be punished for their attempts, and this is demonstrated in no uncertain manner by contemporary and historical examples.

Modern parents will reject any imposition of discipline upon their favourites that could improve their child's character, but will accept any and every move that panders to their charges, even though it further weakens their offspring's character."

[kammy]

How To Live In A Declining Civilization

www.ourcivilisation.com/idoabout.htm

"Nothing can be done to halt the decline of a civilization; it is an irreversible and inevitable process that occurs with every civilization. Concerned citizens must learn to live in a hell called heaven without losing hope. They must resist futile attempts such as trying to:

• Arrest the decline in the community by making changes, because the community will only accept changes for the worse.

• Publicly promote the truth as this can only earn official denial and private persecution.

• Control events by gaining a position of influence, for only the worst are promoted.

Life is for living, and despite the ever-present growing shadow of decline, citizens should enjoy those fruits of civilization that are still available, rather than lament those that are lost. Always remember that, during decline, time makes everything worse; so it could be that our present will be regarded by the future as a golden age, when poverty, chaos, death and destruction were not commonplace.

Consolation—Justice Is Done

It is difficult to endure the constant stream of lies and glaring injustice without a desire to use violence to rectify both, but the minority of unselfish citizens should try to console themselves with the notion that regardless of whether a community is waxing or waning, justice is done: when the multitude is unselfish (virtuous) they win increasing wealth and order, but when the multitude is selfish (sinful) they win increasing poverty and chaos; which is the message of religion: virtue wins heaven while sin wins hell."

Sane And Insane

www.ourcivilisation.com/moral2/moral5n.htm#Sanity

[kammy]

Here's the results from our second doctor's visit in hopes of comparing my and Jeany's numbers and indicators to see what happened and sharing information that might help all of us. For those that are more Lymes literate, comment or correct me.

I was given the Elisa and Elispot for Lymes here last month and the result was negative on both. HOWEVER, from what I understand Dr. Nicolaus' response is: he tested 900 people with Lymes and even if you come back negative on the Elisa and Elispot, they look at the CD57 numbers as an indicator if Borreliose is present or not. That the CD57 killer cells in our immune system are specific to Borrelia, that if these numbers are low - it shows that they are fighting Lymes. The high range is 300, anything under 150 is indicative of Lymes, mine are at 97. We speculate that I have probably had Borrelia for a long time and that it has morphed/modified and is 'stealth' in my system to where it cannot even been 'seen' by the most sensitive testing - the Elispot.

I am wondering if when we hear of a high 97% of people with Morgellons that also have Lymes/Borrelia, that some people, like myself have 'Stealth Borrelia' and these aren't showing in the testing? I'm thinking the number might be higher or even 100%? (I would have to get that information and see what test they used, I think that was Savely and/or Stricker?)

www.txlda.org/

That by using the Elisa or Elispot testing are not positive indicators of whether you have Lymes Disease, that the number one indicator is the CD57 number and this should be used as the indicator.

Before Jeany left to come to America, she was basically 'cured' of Lymes, to get the CD57 number over 150, usually the body can fight Borrelia without re-infection, Jeany's CD57 number last summer was at 295, very high. Jeany came into contact with Borrelia in America, the suspects are: my environment in my moldy house, she was stung by a yellow jacket wasp, contact with fungus gnats, the American environment (air, water, food, etc.). These are the major incidents. Jeany's CD57 is currently at 85.

I am also positive for CPN - Elisa test. Jeany has had a chronic cough since being in America - she was treated last year for CPN BUT is now negative for CPN. We were sure that this part of our disease was present in both of us but is possibly not contagious... ??

My white blood cell count is within a normal range, Jeany's are slightly out of range and this shows that looking at white blood cell count numbers is not an indicator to 'see' our disease. (My MCH is slightly high out of range.)

We both are starting antibiotics, antifungals, and antiparasiticals for 8 weeks, will be re-tested then and the doctor will go from there. A triple antibiotic and fungal mix salve was prescribed for my lesions.

I asked permission to publish Dr. Nicolaus' protocol (which he mentioned that his protocol is shared by Savely and Stricker) in hopes that you can print it and take it to your doctor to show how our disease is being treated, I will post this soon.

The Cryptococcus results were not back - we're still awaiting word if it was found or not.

[toni]

May 10, 2010 15:13:23 GMT -5 kammy said:

Jeany thinks the green looks like penicillin... hey Toni - does my green look like your green? I'm going to culture some tap water next.

NO FUNGAL GROWTH!! ?? (We need to start a cotton business...)

Kammy, I just saw your question here to me about (does yours
look like mine)?

YES, In fact before I saw your post question to me, I saw your
petri dish there, and thought: OMG, that IS just like mine!

Yes, the white borders around the green mold. I'd say by
the visual here, it's a match to mine exactly.

Something else you have a link to your mold/fungi here is
your second link:

my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/5101042810Ear/05_11_55.JPEG

This one, I am REALLY super curious about.
(what do you think this might be)?

If, and I just ask IF (you can safely open a petri dish) and pluck
out those "amber looking particles" amongst these, can you
photo these up close?

They look amber color (in the photo) and if so....I'm dying to see
them closer up (only if you can) get them with a higher magnification safely.

Thank you VERY much!

[toni]

These amber things, also look very familar they are "extremely"
tiny. Are yours super tiny? It's hard to tell because I don't
know the magnification.

I planted "just the amber fleck things" in agar, and a creamy
white fluid came out of mine right into the agar.

Thank you for the great pictures.

(do you have any thoughts on what these could be)?

[kammy]

May 19, 2010 9:16:21 GMT -5 toni said:

These amber things, also look very familar they are "extremely"
tiny. Are yours super tiny? It's hard to tell because I don't
know the magnification.

I planted "just the amber fleck things" in agar, and a creamy
white fluid came out of mine right into the agar.

Thank you for the great pictures.

(do you have any thoughts on what these could be)?

I believe it is from the edges of the black 'fungus' or growth in the dishes that is breaking off in what we might call 'sporing'? (I notice the shape is sometimes larvae-like or flagellate-like.) I will put more magnification on it next time and take more notice. Please tell us of your findings, Toni - good work, btw.

[toni]

Same thoughts here (as you said) "sporing".

I can't even tell you how much time I've put into looking for those
amber like 'flecks"...different sizes and shapes because I see
hundreds of them daily. Oh yes. They come out of my face!

Hundreds per day!

They sort of remind me of ground up tobacco.

I've looked and looked all over the internet for anything close
to these, (spores as I thought they were) but I cannot find
anything close to them.

Spores ((( only from what I've found ))) so this isn't fact, usually
ARE all the same.

But the "amber colored flecks" are not consistent in their shapes.
Many are, but many aren't.

So that was the only thing that kept me from thinking they're
spores, as I originally thought, till I read that spores/seeds all
that ARE usually the same.

And when I saw that "white cream stuff" come out of one (which
I'd posted one of them when it did that) I really was beside
myself in puzzlement.

Thanks again Kammy. Gosh do you and I have what sure
appears to be the SAME stuff.

[jeany]

Hey, I just now noticed this picture: my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/5101042810Ear/05_11_55.JPEG , somehow I missed it.

It looks somewhat like Trypanosomes to me due to the elongated form with the single flagellate. Certainly the picture shows a fungal growth but IMO those 'particles' are not fungal spores which would explain why no anti fungal ointment is working for Kammy and the nematode/worm looking specimen I was able to get out of her outer ear using strong adhesive tape. Hopefully the ointment our doc prescribed her for her ear will kill at least the fungal and bacterial components leading to starvation of the parasite and of course also the internal treatment including antiparasiticals/anti malaria medication.

www.finddiagnostics.org/export/sites/default/programs/hat/images/Trypanosomes_40x_Acridine_orange.jpg

www.pnas.org/content/100/3/F1.medium.gif

Jeany

[kammy]

In the meeting with Dr. Nicolaus, most of the time was spent discussing the lab findings and our different protocols. The beginning, first 8 week 'staggered' approach is the same in both of our protocols in the method of treatment, it's just that different drugs are substituted depending on the lab findings. (Jeany is going to scan those pages and I will put out the .jpgs shortly.)

I took 3 of the petri dishes to show Dr. Nicolaus, the rain, the air and my ear, he was very interested in the implications. He is very open and receptive to hearing news of our disease. I told him that I have photographs and movies of a few of our organisms, he is wanting to see them. I am also wanting to send Dr. Nicholas a link to Barb's and to this fellow below that has found this specific organism in his semen. See his video on his video page:

www.morgellonsinsect.com/?page_id=44

This semen organism above (mite or louse-like) is coming from the sphere acting as a baculoviral capsid, this is not an external organism that happened to get caught up in the photographing. I have two other photographs that substantiate this observation that clearly show this - 'crab-like', 'lobster-like' organism coming out of the gel womb from inside the baculoviral sphere, from a human arm lesion at 300x or 450x:





(If this is ok with Barb and fellow?)...

[toni]

Kammy,

Have you seen this little "sac thing" I'd video'd last year?
I really didn't know, (still don't know) if it's a sac with some
type of larvae worm thing coming out of it, OR if it's a plant
seed of some kind with it's guts coming out.

This came out of my arm.