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Post by jeany on Sept 21, 2009 9:18:31 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Sept 21, 2009 10:03:52 GMT -5
It's funny, cause it's like we're reading the same material. Unreal isn't it, about all this. I mean it's like just showering everyting with poison. www.sfu.ca/biology/esbc/Journal/journal2003/2003_Knight_2.pdfThe intro here (second paragraph) about how widely these fibers have been used in aerial applications on cotton crops, it seems since the 70's. (earlier read an article on how much they're aware of the contamination, toxic that is, and how they know it can cause human health problems and death.)
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Post by jo on Sept 21, 2009 14:37:33 GMT -5
Good work Kam - NoMate fiber blown up. They can be covered in a glue - Biotac - which makes them stick. I'm not convinced these are 'morg' fibers at the mo. You guyzz? Jo xxx Attachments:
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Post by jo on Sept 21, 2009 14:40:15 GMT -5
Those 2 FN eggs from yesterday became transparent within 30 mins of laying!! - see photo. oooo on closer inspection i think they'd hatched. They are too small to see with the naked eye so how would we know if they were in our environment, skin, hair?... 2 options could be a roving scope or carefully collecting them on sticky tape and scoping....will give it a whirl Jo xxx Attachments:
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Post by toni on Sept 21, 2009 15:49:58 GMT -5
Good work Kam - NoMate fiber blown up. They can be covered in a glue - Biotac - which makes them stick. I'm not convinced these are 'morg' fibers at the mo. You guyzz? Jo xxx Hi Jo, I don't think either that "that" one is the morgs fibers either. It's what is inside and what it's made of that seems like a "possible possibility"? Maybe? (copied from page 7 post) Albany International Company, under the trademark "Gossyplure H. F." in which a pheromone is contained by sealing or by capillary action within a hollow fiber. These hollow fillament conduits are known in the art and may be made from any one of a number of natural or synthetic polymeric materials. Useful materials include polyesters, polyolefins, acrylics, modacrylics, polyamides and the like. The selection of the appropriate encapsulating material will be governed by considerations of chemical compatibility or inertness of the fiber material with the chemical agent and formulation to be incorporated and released from the filament. Thus, the microdispensers may be selected from a wide range of materials and may take a wide range of shapes and sizes and can contain a variety of biologically active materials. www.freepatentsonline.com/4262846.html
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Post by bannanny on Sept 21, 2009 19:51:43 GMT -5
You guys are sooooo great... I'm trying to keep up too, but it's really hard for me to do these days. My brain must be pure mush by now. I just wanted to say how much I relate to the pics toni and jeany posted on pg. 7. I swear they talk to me. So altho I'm having a hard time following everything here, I wanted to share some pics that I think might correlate to some of the ones you've shown and to what you guys are saying. I hope they can help you in one way or another. These 2 of mine remind me of the fibrous hydrogel... The shape of the thing in this pic of massena's looks like the same shape as the black fiber pic you posted above jeany. It formed out of a fiber ball she removed from her lip.. But for some reason, this pic I took of a black fiber reminded me of that one too. Looks like it has a headlight. The only difference being this one was nearly invisible. These things seem to have the ability to blend into anything, just like a chameleon... Also toni, the first pic you posted of the purple segmented fiber... I noticed it looks like something black is wrapped up in it, but beginning to protrude out of the tip of the thing. Like you said, as tho the fibers are "peeling down"... just like this fiber of mine I took a video of looks like it's doing. It looks like something's coming out of the tip that's wrapped up inside of it (the part that's moving towards the hair)... You said the FN eggs became transparent jo and weren't visible to the naked eye. That reminded me of something I got out of my hair once. It was pretty much invisible until I got it under the scope. Here's what it looked like with bottom lighting... But when I started taking pics of it with top lighting, things started to happen. Dr. Hildy saw these pics and said she thought it was sol gel. She was really interested in my giving her the specimen, but I'd already thrown it out. I called this sequence of pics "A Sci-Fi Birth" cuz that's what it looks like and feels like to me! Here's the same "seed" or "larvae" (or whatever it is) in the pic above, only difference is these were taken with top lighting... The following show what occurred while I was taking pics of the thing... This was the flip side... The black stuff with the dots in it that looks like a wave coming out of the thing is what she thought might be sol gel... Then the "sci-fi birth" began to produce even more strange things... Dr. Hildy also told me the transparent whitish specs (like the first pic above in the sci-fi group) are water-insoluble. Also, when kammy cultured my goo and got this... Well... I can't tell you how much I think this is the strand creating mystery fungus. It looks exactly like what I feel and see everywhere. I think the strands it's creating are the rubber band feeling things I can snap out of my skin. They're very adhesive and web-like. Now compare this pic below of the gel that oozed from my finger onto my scope base and look at the segmented tubes that are beginning to form from it as well. Reminds me of the pic you posted of the hydrogel and water-insoluble polymer chains... Then when I read this... [glow=red,2,300]In addition, the emulsification liquid may contain a surfactant to aid in emulsification. Water is the preferred liquid.[/glow] I thought you can also compare this pic of a self assembling surfactant... ... to our "gel blobs." This pic being one of massena's (just like mine.) Our gel looks alot like the surfactant to me... Anyway, I saw some comparisons and figured I could at least post the pics. You guys amaze me with all your knowledge and research. I just know you're gonna solve this thing for us and I can't even find the words to tell you how much I love you and respect you. You all rock big time in my opinion! big hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Sept 21, 2009 23:20:47 GMT -5
My computer went crazy today, it is not typinj certain letters, tje ones next to f and j, I am puttinj a j in tje place of tjose. lol It will not reboot properly, nor do a system restore, no cut and paste feature. Jeany is completely down, as of today. I tjink mine is from sprayinj tje jnats around me and tje solution or Morjs jot in tje keyboard? Can we buy some Nomate Fibers and run some tests? I believe, tjey work like Barbs sewinj tjread?... tjey spread out, tjey jave a funjus coatinj? Is tjere a product description on jow it works? Tjey are not tje Morj fibers, as I jave sjown in tje life cycle, tjey start out as empty carbon cells/funjus mix tjat turns into tje bv capsids tjat turns into tje jnat wjicj is flyinj around and invisibly droppinj tje fibers/ejjs in our environments. I cannot post a pjoto now, because it takes one of tjose letters tjat I can not type nor cut and paste!!... Banny, I will comment on yours wjen I can type better... ok?
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Post by toni on Sept 22, 2009 7:47:05 GMT -5
Bannanny the second picture you've posted, those things I've sure seen too.
Thank you for all your info.
Kammy,
That is messed up. Oh no. I sure wish I knew how to help you with that. Last week I dropped a needle down into my keyboard, and since then, I've been holding my breath when I type that it doesn't mess up, cause I've tried tapping the board upside down, and that didn't knock it out.
Have you tried tapping the keyboard upside down? You probably have. I can't imagine what happened.
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Post by violet on Sept 22, 2009 10:10:22 GMT -5
My computer went crazy today, it is not typinj certain letters, tje ones next to f and j, I am puttinj a j in tje place of tjose. lol It will not reboot properly, nor do a system restore, no cut and paste feature. Jeany is completely down, as of today. I tjink mine is from sprayinj tje jnats around me and tje solution or Morjs jot in tje keyboard? Can we buy some Nomate Fibers and run some tests? I believe, tjey work like Barbs sewinj tjread?... tjey spread out, tjey jave a funjus coatinj? Is tjere a product description on jow it works? Tjey are not tje Morj fibers, as I jave sjown in tje life cycle, tjey start out as empty carbon cells/funjus mix tjat turns into tje bv capsids tjat turns into tje jnat wjicj is flyinj around and invisibly droppinj tje fibers/ejjs in our environments. I cannot post a pjoto now, because it takes one of tjose letters tjat I can not type nor cut and paste!!... Banny, I will comment on yours wjen I can type better... ok? LOL!!! (LjL?) (Hee-hee-hee-hee!!!!)
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Post by kammy on Sept 22, 2009 14:29:29 GMT -5
jello... Im readinj .... lol but, not writinj mucj.... ;D If tjis is someones idea of a computer virus joke... its not funny! ;D (tje apostropje is not workinj eitjer! )
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Post by violet on Sept 22, 2009 14:51:58 GMT -5
;D jello... Im readinj .... lol but, not writinj mucj.... ;D If tjis is someones idea of a computer virus joke... its not funny! ;D (tje apostropje is not workinj eitjer! ) Jello, right back at you!!! ;D ;D ;D Kammy, every time I see something you've typed I just break out laughing!!!!! And laughing...and laughing... Really made my day!
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Post by bannanny on Sept 22, 2009 18:10:06 GMT -5
Sounds like you've got some keys sticking. Try that air in a can stuff and clean your keyboard out with it. Maybe that'll help... hope so! I have to agree with vi tho... it's a crack-up reading your posts!
hugs ~~ bannannas
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Post by jeany on Sept 23, 2009 1:43:44 GMT -5
You guys are sooooo great... I'm trying to keep up too, but it's really hard for me to do these days. My brain must be pure mush by now. I just wanted to say how much I relate to the pics toni and jeany posted on pg. 7. I swear they talk to me. So altho I'm having a hard time following everything here, I wanted to share some pics that I think might correlate to some of the ones you've shown and to what you guys are saying. I hope they can help you in one way or another. These 2 of mine remind me of the fibrous hydrogel... The shape of the thing in this pic of massena's looks like the same shape as the black fiber pic you posted above jeany. It formed out of a fiber ball she removed from her lip.. But for some reason, this pic I took of a black fiber reminded me of that one too. Looks like it has a headlight. The only difference being this one was nearly invisible. These things seem to have the ability to blend into anything, just like a chameleon... Also toni, the first pic you posted of the purple segmented fiber... I noticed it looks like something black is wrapped up in it, but beginning to protrude out of the tip of the thing. Like you said, as tho the fibers are "peeling down"... just like this fiber of mine I took a video of looks like it's doing. It looks like something's coming out of the tip that's wrapped up inside of it (the part that's moving towards the hair)... You said the FN eggs became transparent jo and weren't visible to the naked eye. That reminded me of something I got out of my hair once. It was pretty much invisible until I got it under the scope. Here's what it looked like with bottom lighting... But when I started taking pics of it with top lighting, things started to happen. Dr. Hildy saw these pics and said she thought it was sol gel. She was really interested in my giving her the specimen, but I'd already thrown it out. I called this sequence of pics "A Sci-Fi Birth" cuz that's what it looks like and feels like to me! Here's the same "seed" or "larvae" (or whatever it is) in the pic above, only difference is these were taken with top lighting... The following show what occurred while I was taking pics of the thing... This was the flip side... The black stuff with the dots in it that looks like a wave coming out of the thing is what she thought might be sol gel... Then the "sci-fi birth" began to produce even more strange things... Dr. Hildy also told me the transparent whitish specs (like the first pic above in the sci-fi group) are water-insoluble. Also, when kammy cultured my goo and got this... Well... I can't tell you how much I think this is the strand creating mystery fungus. It looks exactly like what I feel and see everywhere. I think the strands it's creating are the rubber band feeling things I can snap out of my skin. They're very adhesive and web-like. Now compare this pic below of the gel that oozed from my finger onto my scope base and look at the segmented tubes that are beginning to form from it as well. Reminds me of the pic you posted of the hydrogel and water-insoluble polymer chains... Then when I read this... [glow=red,2,300]In addition, the emulsification liquid may contain a surfactant to aid in emulsification. Water is the preferred liquid.[/glow] I thought you can also compare this pic of a self assembling surfactant... ... to our "gel blobs." This pic being one of massena's (just like mine.) Our gel looks alot like the surfactant to me... Anyway, I saw some comparisons and figured I could at least post the pics. You guys amaze me with all your knowledge and research. I just know you're gonna solve this thing for us and I can't even find the words to tell you how much I love you and respect you. You all rock big time in my opinion! big hugs ~~ bannanny Hi bannanny! YES..as I read that, I thought WOW! that IS the nano aspect of our disease!! and the Solgel..its a form of silicone we've researched before. Hydrogel is very elastic. Thats why the fibers don't come out of the skin easily, this 'plastic' look...AND it's also used in plastic surgery for tissue repair. And how the hydrogel has the characteristic to 'self assemble'...to replicate? It all fits..IMO...bio-insecticides...baculovirus, fungi, entemopox, enterobacteria, agrobacteria, insect dna, silicone, nano, ...etc... The pictures you've posted show this very well..thank you! If I think about, how long our food has been sprayed with this stuff..how the soil and water is contaminated..well..I'm not wondering anymore...it just makes sense to me. Yes, bannanny, I think it's great, how we all work together to find out what happened to us...a group of wonderful people! and I also appreciate every single member here! Thank you! Let's keep up the good work, folks!! We're getting close, real close! Jeany btw..my pc 'crashed' totally..suddenly it 'shut' down and a blue screen appeared..wasn't able to reboot...nothing..nada..I spent hours to get it to run again and had to set up the running system new..what's going on? My computer has been 'attacked' now 3 times in a row lately..and Kammy's isn't running properly either..hmm...I'm wondering, if this has something to do with our research? I don't want to sound paranoid..I'm not that kind of person,..but it's still kind of weird..
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Post by bannanny on Sept 23, 2009 18:12:36 GMT -5
Oh thanks so much jeany... positive feedback from any of you makes me feel good inside!
Ya know, about the computer crashing business... I don't think you're being paranoid at all. When my "amazing glitter" thread that had all the "chip" pix in it went out on Coast to Coast, it received 24,000 hits within 24 hours. That next day, my computer crashed completely. I couldn't even get to system restore. If I hadn't of made recovery discs when I first got my puter, I would've been sh*t outta luck. I called "Compu Doc" cuz the guy who runs the place has helped me before. He said it sounded as tho it was definitely hacked into. Anyway, once I got it back up and running, alot of my morg pics I'd uploaded to Simpload were also gone. I never have gotten them back. I don't think it's coincidence at all. It's happened to alot of us here before. I also think the electromagnetic aspect of morgs can get in the way of them running properly too.
Hopin you guys get them back to running normally... we need you here!
love ya's ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Sept 25, 2009 14:15:54 GMT -5
Banny, I noticed a change in my environment recently to more of what you have been referring to all this time. I feel like there's spiderwebs in my environment now, since the gnats have been loose in my house. I can see lots of fibers now on my computer screen that were not there before. My bare legs feel like spiderwebs are brushing against them when I walk through my house, my skin feels different, more involved, lately. We must take gnats in our environment very serious!
I have this small store that I shop at, I have noticed more flies in there lately, it is the end of summer. They had a rack of bananas that were overripe, I could see the swarms of gnats hovering over them a couple of days ago.
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Post by toni on Sept 25, 2009 14:47:17 GMT -5
Kammy remember that article with the "blue bananas"?
Insects see fruit or bananas anyways, (blue) when they ripen.
That's how they know to hone in on them.
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Post by kammy on Sept 25, 2009 15:31:04 GMT -5
Frass in My Environment I see what I believe is gnat frass on my computer screen, I've had a continous gnat flying around me while on the computer. Some of these hair-like fibers/filaments are over 1 inch long. I decide to look at them today under the microscope to see what they look like. I turn off all fans, take out of of a sealed box a brand new slide and take the tongs and put the fiber from the computer screen onto the slide and view: my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/9 2 five/Gnats in House 9 25/09_25_1.JPEG my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/9 2 five/Gnats in House 9 25/09_25_2.JPEG my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/9 2 five/Gnats in House 9 25/09_25_3.JPEG my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/9 2 five/Gnats in House 9 25/09_25_4.JPEG my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/9 2 five/Gnats in House 9 25/09_25_5.JPEG my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/9 2 five/Gnats in House 9 25/09_25_6.JPEG my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/9 2 five/Gnats in House 9 25/09_25_8.JPEG my-stuff-dot-com.com/LB/9 2 five/Gnats in House 9 25/09_25_9.JPEG **I notice in photos 1 and 2 the 'infection bulb' that is developed in the frass. We studied this 'bulb' developing with plants? Interesting? What has happened that now the gnats are defecating plant-like growths? This is a key in understanding what has happened to us. We need to search and find out.In photo 4, I see the 'starter' pieces... in the past these culture into the beginnings of the entire life cycle. Is my environment this corrupt with Morg particles, did these particles drop from the air onto the slide in the few minutes of viewing, or where they attached to the filaments? I had to tap the slide to cause the filament to release from the tongs. ?? In photo 8, look at the unusual pointed end of the filament, like a needle.
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Post by kammy on Sept 25, 2009 15:57:34 GMT -5
Kammy remember that article with the "blue bananas"? Insects see fruit or bananas anyways, (blue) when they ripen. That's how they know to hone in on them. Toni... I wonder if... these bv capsids that are in the water that's watering our fruits and veggies... if they aren't becoming a part of the fruit or veggie? Eventually, someone needs to start studying our foods to see what's happening. I'm not sure what a valid test would be to find out? I would approach it by taking the skin of a banana on the inside (or thin potato slice) and put this material in contact with the agar. I would run tests simultaneously; one without disturbing the growth, the other - wait a couple of days to allow growth to start... then lift the initial food out of the Petri Dish to allow it to grow unencumbered to see which method would be best or see if you get the same results? Probably would get the same results either way. This experiment would tell us if... the brown spots on the outside of bananas (as an example) are coming from an inside factor also?
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Post by toni on Sept 25, 2009 16:17:53 GMT -5
Kammy I just viewed your fibers there. OMG!
Alot of what Bannanny has spoken of I too have experienced.
I'm sorry you're now going through the fibers in your environment.
I've not seen that 'yet'....but I'm sure it's to come.
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Post by toni on Sept 25, 2009 16:36:23 GMT -5
Kammy asked:
Toni...
I wonder if... these bv capsids that are in the water that's watering our fruits and veggies... if they aren't becoming a part of the fruit or veggie?
Toni says:
A "guesstimate" would be yes.
Here's why I say that...(following only logic of all other growths in crops) and the fact that (everything is what it *eats* basically) is sort of the way I see this.
YEARS ago, my dad got into wine making (there is a good reason for this little story).
He bought many acres and had grapes of Zinfandel, Merlot, Cabernet, Pinot Noir.
I learned alot about wines...((( but mostly))) what makes the GRAPES taste different depending on where it's grown.
Wines from France, do not taste the same as wines from Napa Valley CA....etc.
Why?
Because environmental factors are what cause 'taste' amongst other things to be different, depending on locations...even when it's the same grape.
That same bunch of grapes that are grown on a vine, if you were to take that same grape vine, and plant it elsewhere, it will not taste the same, because it's not grown in the same area, not the same dirt, sun, water, or temperature.
(Everything grown) is dependant on where and what it grows in.
Besides sunlight, water, etc.
But my point is...with the use of Agrobacterium (and agro) being a vector of DNA and all the other pathogens causing breaking of DNA's...and then throw in we have the agro vectoring whatever DNA might be compatible, then we have more genetic mutations.
Anymore, with all the genetically modified crops, and the agricultural runoff, and our water table full of toxins etc...
And the fact that (there's articles on this) that GM'd crops "are not stable" because they too are dependant on temperatures, UV rays, etc.
Throw that all in the mix, and I'd sure think (imho) that with all the mixes, how could it not happen.
Early this morning, I was reading another article on fungi, insects, and humans being affected by genetically modified organisms.
I tried to copy the link, it wouldn't copy. Then when I went back, I couldn't find the article. (I'm sorry I don't have it, but if or when I find it again, I'll sure post it) because it was a doozy and Kunik I think is his name, and Jospeh Moshe were amongst several mentioned as stated researchers of this entire article.
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