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Post by violet on Jul 14, 2012 12:43:08 GMT -5
Hello, Lynn, dear person. Have you tried organic coffee? I get the best coffee ever from Target for about $6.00 a bag, and I notice they are providing it in organic now. It is Seattle's Best Organic Coffee #4 (it comes now as #1, #2, #3, #4, #5). I use a regular Mr. Coffee 4-cup coffeemaker and make one mug at a time using 2 cups filtered water and 2 Tablespoons of the ground coffee put into a paper filter that I first get wet before putting it in the basket. It is the best coffee ever!!!!!!! :-)
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 14, 2012 13:17:34 GMT -5
Think about this, the pharmaceutical company's know exactly when the abuse started by the numbers of TONS of drugs being sold and in what areas, hospitals knew what drugs were causing overdoses and deaths by the numbers, police and courts knew quickly when the prosecutions turned from street drugs to prescription drugs. Want to know what big Pharm has done to keep the flow going, they cut off the prescriptions to everyone unless they go to pain management, who owns pain management clinics, guess, politicians that knew of legislation? The rich, BIG PHARM who own legislation and franchise clinics. They are waiting now for the people that are debilitated and in horrible pain to complain in number to once again open the flood gates to addiction. Either nobody gets pain meds or everyone can have them, my crippled friend with huge pain issues was just cut off from his prescription that allows him to sleep sitting up, with the meds he can not sleep laying down, they tried to put him through the pain management, this a month and a half down the road, hmmmm, that seems like a very long time for either a addict or someone that is ready to shoot themselves before they languish in unbearable agony. As far as your problem scrap you need to grow up, all I said is fact, there is no coddling of a addict that will change their mind about abuse. Already the Heroine use numbers are way up. Just read the news, maybe this fellow is right, they can spread the new plague through pain, addiction and mental disability. They knew that getting so many more addicted before they cut off the legal drugs would bring a resurgence of the use of injectable street drugs, furthering the control of the death by the spread of plague. Believe this, there are many Hitlers on this planet, many many, and the scientist works for them, he imagines himself as the protector of the human race. Think this is far fetched, we border on the greatest mass of people coming out of the stone age ever, China, India, South America, Indonesia, and so many more regions of the world coming into the 21st century. With prosperity comes advanced numbers of child births, We will quickly double the population of the world, and worse, the population of the world will be wasting the resources as quickly as they can get them. The only cure for the problem, plague, a plague that kills much of the planet instantly, could the vector of our disease be a inoculation. The answer I am afraid is,yes, it could be, then it could also be the glue in a two part disease, damage the ability to fight disease or make it symbiotic to other designed pathogens and after a time add part B to the already released part A disease.
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Post by Lynn on Jul 14, 2012 13:19:22 GMT -5
Hi Violet
Thank you so much I did not know it could be bought for cheaper like that. I do own a small 4 cup coffee maker and I have been wanting organic forever, but every time it was twice the price as cheap coffee. This will help me so much. I am so glad you shared this so next time I am in Target I will see if it is on the shelf. I have trouble with stuff not being available to me as it is for other. Like my mom will always say its at a certain store in Mesa, AZ and then in central CA they do not have it. Keep my fingers crossed.
Much appreciated and hugs. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 14, 2012 13:39:37 GMT -5
I like coffee too, I just drank a cup of Starbucks coffee, I got a tall blond, how yummy it was, thank you Voilet for the heads up on Target you ladys are just so helpful, dear darlings and helpful I almost want to burst into song right now, this song is to coffee www.youtube.com/watch?v=14ivtcelIo0&feature=relatedIt makes me tear...........
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Post by Lynn on Jul 14, 2012 13:41:25 GMT -5
Hi Baraka
I right there with your friend. My hips were born crippled and before I am allowed to have counsel with a specialist to see if there is anything surgically they can do I have to be on pain management. I have a long history of having bad reactions to medication and worse as I came down with Morgellons. They ignore that like I have not even opened my mouth. So I go through 3 or 4 different types of medicine get huge side effects that drive me away from it. I have had to be inventive to sleep and control pain.
With the pain management I have had to get a drug that is in capsule and pour over half of it out. I have told Dr.s many times that all over the counter medication I have to take in child dosages or suffer consequences and even at child dosages if taken for more then 2 days I get extreme hang over headaches. The kind that will make you barf if you even take a sip of water and the room has to be dark. Then I have to alternate drugs in such a way as to get near the hangover head ache but stop before it gets there and take a break which means being in bad pain. I can only sleep on my right side for 2 hours before I have to sleep in the lease painful position on my back for 2 hours and have the pain drive me out of bed. I average 6 hours total on average and less then half in deep sleep.
Before Morgellons I was on a quest to try and find a way to get more then 4 hours of sleep because at that time it was that bad. We slowly went through 4 different mattresses. Some donated some bought. The one we have now has been the best and upped my hours to 6. Very rarely can I stay longer in any position. The rest of the day is spent standing, sitting in different types of chairs because everything cripples me up and that's even with all the exercises and stretching I do. My average time to sit and stand in any chair is 20 minutes.
My family had to beg me for over a year to try a unconventional means to control pain which I very reluctantly tried and did better, but still even that method I have had to be very careful because I even get side effects from that. Dang I can not get away with anything. For the most part I try not to take anything and my first go to is Tylonal for just one dose a day for two days. The only time I resort to stronger and play the merry-go-round with prescription and unconventional is when the pain is so bad I can not stop scrunching the face and clenching the teeth and crying, because there is no relief in any position.
I know that darn pain game very well and feel for your friend and what it takes to even get a little sleep.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by Lynn on Jul 14, 2012 13:53:29 GMT -5
Baraka You are so funny. My favorite which I had not bought or made in over 4 months is a Milky Way Coffee. I like Carmel more then chocolate. So a dollop of Mrs. Richerson's Fudge Ice cream topping with a huge Dollup of the darkest Carmel you can find and heavy whipping creamer and a crown of heavy whipped creamed to float on top. I like ice in my coffee so when I buy it I make sure they make it specifically to my direction on ice. If I let them just do they always do more chocolate and the double dose of caffeine makes me so hyper I can hardly breath. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn www.youtube.com/watch?v=astISOttCQ0 How coffee makes me feel. ROFLOL
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 14, 2012 14:27:52 GMT -5
I love that ice cream also but if I buy it and put it in the refrigerator I will eat the whole 1/2 gallon, I can not healp it.
The only defence is not to buy it, long and short, don't buy icecream.
LOL.
In fact chips and dip, steak with salt, pork ribs, Italian food with dried tomatos and garlic, corn on the cob with butter and salt, potato sald with onions mayo and celery and salt and pepper, turkey stuffing with summer savory, New York cheese cake with strawberry sauce or blueberry sauce, I want them all NOW, bring them, OMG I am drooling.
Look what you have done torpedolynn
If there were limitless amounts of all of this kind of food I would be dead in a few days, Im hungry.
Lucky today is rib day, LOL, that should hold me over untill I get to the rest.
You know how I control this, I do not buy anything I lust for and put it in the fridge. Nope, don't do it.
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Post by violet on Jul 14, 2012 17:57:59 GMT -5
Hi Violet Thank you so much I did not know it could be bought for cheaper like that. I do own a small 4 cup coffee maker and I have been wanting organic forever, but every time it was twice the price as cheap coffee. This will help me so much. I am so glad you shared this so next time I am in Target I will see if it is on the shelf. I have trouble with stuff not being available to me as it is for other. Like my mom will always say its at a certain store in Mesa, AZ and then in central CA they do not have it. Keep my fingers crossed. Much appreciated and hugs. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn You are so welcome, Lynn. Let me know if you find it. Walmart is another place it is sold (not sure if they have organic like Target does, though, but very possibly they do). Mmmmmmm......good to the very last drop! :-)
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Post by violet on Jul 14, 2012 18:15:39 GMT -5
Hi Baraka I right there with your friend. My hips were born crippled and before I am allowed to have counsel with a specialist to see if there is anything surgically they can do I have to be on pain management. I have a long history of having bad reactions to medication and worse as I came down with Morgellons. They ignore that like I have not even opened my mouth. So I go through 3 or 4 different types of medicine get huge side effects that drive me away from it. I have had to be inventive to sleep and control pain. With the pain management I have had to get a drug that is in capsule and pour over half of it out. I have told Dr.s many times that all over the counter medication I have to take in child dosages or suffer consequences and even at child dosages if taken for more then 2 days I get extreme hang over headaches. The kind that will make you barf if you even take a sip of water and the room has to be dark. Then I have to alternate drugs in such a way as to get near the hangover head ache but stop before it gets there and take a break which means being in bad pain. I can only sleep on my right side for 2 hours before I have to sleep in the lease painful position on my back for 2 hours and have the pain drive me out of bed. I average 6 hours total on average and less then half in deep sleep. Before Morgellons I was on a quest to try and find a way to get more then 4 hours of sleep because at that time it was that bad. We slowly went through 4 different mattresses. Some donated some bought. The one we have now has been the best and upped my hours to 6. Very rarely can I stay longer in any position. The rest of the day is spent standing, sitting in different types of chairs because everything cripples me up and that's even with all the exercises and stretching I do. My average time to sit and stand in any chair is 20 minutes. My family had to beg me for over a year to try a unconventional means to control pain which I very reluctantly tried and did better, but still even that method I have had to be very careful because I even get side effects from that. Dang I can not get away with anything. For the most part I try not to take anything and my first go to is Tylonal for just one dose a day for two days. The only time I resort to stronger and play the merry-go-round with prescription and unconventional is when the pain is so bad I can not stop scrunching the face and clenching the teeth and crying, because there is no relief in any position. I know that darn pain game very well and feel for your friend and what it takes to even get a little sleep. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn Lynn, could you explain where your pain is and what kind of pain it is? Maybe some of us could give some suggestions that you may not have tried?
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Post by violet on Jul 14, 2012 18:19:08 GMT -5
I like coffee too, I just drank a cup of Starbucks coffee, I got a tall blond, how yummy it was, thank you Voilet for the heads up on Target you ladys are just so helpful, dear darlings and helpful I almost want to burst into song right now, this song is to coffee www.youtube.com/watch?v=14ivtcelIo0&feature=relatedIt makes me tear........... LOL!!!!!!! You are so, so funny Baraka. I've wondered about the blonde coffee. What is it like? Mild? Or just different? Or similar to regular coffee? Smoother? Other?
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Post by Baraka Obam on Jul 14, 2012 19:59:00 GMT -5
The coffee, blond at starbucks is not strong. I like it, The regular is ok but it is a bit dark burnt and bitter.
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Post by scabdraggr on Jul 14, 2012 22:26:45 GMT -5
Often there is a concept that i consider about the cause of so much addiction.People do not feel the way they wish tom feel so human nature has them turn to some substance for help,whether herbs,aspirin,pain pills,heroin,cocaine,coffee,steroids,benzodiazapam and anything that the individual percieves as being able to help them to feel the way they wish to feel. It's my premise that few in this world feel the correct way,the way that the healthy individual needs to feel.People often turn to drugs fr the right reason but with the wrong outcome.Suppose that a large percentage of humans have some aspect of this disease but do not show symptoms,yet they don't feel right because of their health and energy being interrupted by some unknown entity that is attacking them without their knowledge. I see so very many that don't have full blown nMorgellons but do have some aspect of it and enough to make them not feel right.How many out there don't feel right due to some small version of this disease and subsequently turn to dope for a better feeling or to supress a sick feeling.I believe there possibly enough to make up a great percentage of the drug addicts in the world today,especially the meth addicts in my area.My research has gone into this area and the awareness of the numbers involved with M and dope are astounding.a few visits to the public health system has blown my mind as to the numbers involved.a few wonderful nurses have been so helpful in helping me to gather the proper info on this scenario.The mental health classes and the addiction help meetings were full of morgellons sufferers.One thing that bothered me on a personal note were the other people that were sniggering at the sores on the addicts and about how they were mentally comprimised.The stories that came from the ER's really upset me,too many m sufferers are being laughed at and considered drug addicts instead of diseased individuals.The moe that I look,the less that i see that i like in the medical and health care systems of the world. Anyone with doubts about the unseen affects of M only need to view the stastistics of the gall bladder nsurgeries to understand that something is wrong at the medical institutions of the world.
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Post by itchin4answers on Jul 15, 2012 2:53:26 GMT -5
I heard a rumour that "medical professionals" were the worst junkies. I don't know the actual figures, all I know is that I saw first hand a "medical professional" - "psychotherapist" was his title - this "expert" would ever so slyly pop a little pill in his mouth during the counselling session. He didn't think I could see....then he would go on the nod....he would tell me how he had learnt to control his own anxiety, which had been a problem for 25 years, by reading certain books and methods that were literally a bag of wind. The worst drug ever, ask any Mental Health "Expert" - problem is - no one is addressing the problem, I think they "have head in sand issues or something". tinyurl.com/7l5b8xdGin, tonic and advanced bioweapons are DEADLY.
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Post by Lynn on Jul 15, 2012 9:13:39 GMT -5
Hi Violet I was born crippled in both hips. So as of now the left hip has a lot of missing cartilage and a 1/4 of the left pelvis bone is missing. I also have an old spine injury. My left hip will hit an empty spot and either will cause a knife jabbing pain or hit dead air and I fall down. My deformed hip is slightly shorter then the right and a lot the foot is a lot smaller. My left leg is twisting outward and the Dr. was going to determined with a visit of a specialist if the bone was twisting or if the weakened hold of the hip socket was twisting my leg out. I have lost over 35 percent of rotating of left leg. The deformities keep putting all the bones out of place. I have to see a chiropractor to keep putting things back into place. My weight makes it all much worse. My one vertibre injury in center of back will flare up and feels like someone with an iron grip is trying to break my back in half. If I lean back to sit in a chair or side ways to lay down the one vertibre in my back will hit me like a hammer and take my breath away. No stabbing pain, no shooting pain. More like someone is literately got hands and trying to snap my back in half. With things being off balance all the time I have leg cramps and foot cramps to the point my feet will curl into clubs. The ankle exercises in the shower and the stomach crunches and stretches and leg lifts I do sitting in a chair have helped tremendously though I am having a horrid weekend with all the pain and cramps, spasms and things being out of place. I love dancing so I tend to chair dance and I will stand and do belle dance type exercise. Nothing extreme. Light and simple. Laying down in one position of any kind will cripple me up and send me up and out of bed. Like this morning. Just after 5 am I got a spam in my left ankle and foot which started to curl the foot into a club. My vertebra in my back also happens to be acting up this time so I Have to really watch how I get up or down or turn or move. Or that will send me into the stratosphere. So I am exhausted and need more sleep, but my hip, legs, and back are playing havoc on me. I get Sciatica in my right hip and leg. I know that loosing weight and swimming will help. But having money and time to go swimming squeezed into fighting this disease is a difficult thing. Loosing weight has always been super difficult. Obesity runs in the family like a mad dog. The only time I was ever skinny is when I lifted weights, held down a concrete labor job, kept a spotless house, and ate once a day. My hip Dr.s all my life had a law that I was to have no running, no jumping, only a sit down job. I cheated. Oh no walking. When I got Morgellons I lost 70 lbs really fast but I was too sick to eat and would only take a nibble of food to keep vitamins from burning a hole through my stomach. The minute I started to eat tiny meals the weight loss stopped. The minute I ate a regular meal it started right back up. My weight is the number one problem of winning some of the battle. Having my hip stop deteriorating is the other problem. My first hip surgery I was a year old that fell apart at age 13. I got a new reconstructed hip at age 13. They said I would be using a cane at age 35 and wheel chair bond by age 60 and did not know if there was anything else they could do. Not by just a hip surgeon, but a specialist. My hip had to always be taken care of by a specialist when time for surgery. Well my weight has rarely been normal and I started using a cane at 45 and hope to not see a wheel chair till 70, but back when Morgellons symptoms started before the bugs. That is when I started loosing bone real fast around the bad hip. So fast it scared the day lights out of me and took some convincing by the hip Dr. that it was not all going to disappear. I was worried about amputation. The pelvis on the left side is all gone except the socket area that holds my leg in place. If I were to stand in front of you my body line is straight. No womanly curve. The right side that still has a whole pelvis flowers out in a nice womanly curve. The best thing for now is loose weight and in the past the only diet I ever went on that made me loose weight was a vegetarian diet. A lot of food prep which I can not keep up on. Also the will power to eat rabbit food. I just need to do it and make things better for a time as things deteriorate. It was also a extra strain on the budget back then which was more money then now, because no one else in the family ate what I made and that meant preparing different meals and temptation of those meals right at my fingers. I can not physically keep up two separate menus. My family helps all the time at food prep sense I can not keep up. If my hubby could solely make his own meals on top of helping me with his work and helping my with my physical crippledness and this disease. He is all ready taxed to the max so I try to help him by making his lunches and dinners. He is already helping with chores that surround this disease. Like helping me get dressed. Doing his own laundry and the bedding on the bed and making his own breakfast. The weather is kicking his behind so I feel I need to give him as many breaks as possible. Well that's all I can think of for the situation. Ready for feed back. In Light Lynn
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Post by violet on Jul 16, 2012 5:34:40 GMT -5
Hi Violet I was born crippled in both hips. So as of now the left hip has a lot of missing cartilage and a 1/4 of the left pelvis bone is missing. I also have an old spine injury. My left hip will hit an empty spot and either will cause a knife jabbing pain or hit dead air and I fall down. My deformed hip is slightly shorter then the right and a lot the foot is a lot smaller. My left leg is twisting outward and the Dr. was going to determined with a visit of a specialist if the bone was twisting or if the weakened hold of the hip socket was twisting my leg out. I have lost over 35 percent of rotating of left leg. The deformities keep putting all the bones out of place. I have to see a chiropractor to keep putting things back into place. My weight makes it all much worse. My one vertibre injury in center of back will flare up and feels like someone with an iron grip is trying to break my back in half. If I lean back to sit in a chair or side ways to lay down the one vertibre in my back will hit me like a hammer and take my breath away. No stabbing pain, no shooting pain. More like someone is literately got hands and trying to snap my back in half. With things being off balance all the time I have leg cramps and foot cramps to the point my feet will curl into clubs. The ankle exercises in the shower and the stomach crunches and stretches and leg lifts I do sitting in a chair have helped tremendously though I am having a horrid weekend with all the pain and cramps, spasms and things being out of place. I love dancing so I tend to chair dance and I will stand and do belle dance type exercise. Nothing extreme. Light and simple. Laying down in one position of any kind will cripple me up and send me up and out of bed. Like this morning. Just after 5 am I got a spam in my left ankle and foot which started to curl the foot into a club. My vertebra in my back also happens to be acting up this time so I Have to really watch how I get up or down or turn or move. Or that will send me into the stratosphere. So I am exhausted and need more sleep, but my hip, legs, and back are playing havoc on me. I get Sciatica in my right hip and leg. I know that loosing weight and swimming will help. But having money and time to go swimming squeezed into fighting this disease is a difficult thing. Loosing weight has always been super difficult. Obesity runs in the family like a mad dog. The only time I was ever skinny is when I lifted weights, held down a concrete labor job, kept a spotless house, and ate once a day. My hip Dr.s all my life had a law that I was to have no running, no jumping, only a sit down job. I cheated. Oh no walking. When I got Morgellons I lost 70 lbs really fast but I was too sick to eat and would only take a nibble of food to keep vitamins from burning a hole through my stomach. The minute I started to eat tiny meals the weight loss stopped. The minute I ate a regular meal it started right back up. My weight is the number one problem of winning some of the battle. Having my hip stop deteriorating is the other problem. My first hip surgery I was a year old that fell apart at age 13. I got a new reconstructed hip at age 13. They said I would be using a cane at age 35 and wheel chair bond by age 60 and did not know if there was anything else they could do. Not by just a hip surgeon, but a specialist. My hip had to always be taken care of by a specialist when time for surgery. Well my weight has rarely been normal and I started using a cane at 45 and hope to not see a wheel chair till 70, but back when Morgellons symptoms started before the bugs. That is when I started loosing bone real fast around the bad hip. So fast it scared the day lights out of me and took some convincing by the hip Dr. that it was not all going to disappear. I was worried about amputation. The pelvis on the left side is all gone except the socket area that holds my leg in place. If I were to stand in front of you my body line is straight. No womanly curve. The right side that still has a whole pelvis flowers out in a nice womanly curve. The best thing for now is loose weight and in the past the only diet I ever went on that made me loose weight was a vegetarian diet. A lot of food prep which I can not keep up on. Also the will power to eat rabbit food. I just need to do it and make things better for a time as things deteriorate. It was also a extra strain on the budget back then which was more money then now, because no one else in the family ate what I made and that meant preparing different meals and temptation of those meals right at my fingers. I can not physically keep up two separate menus. My family helps all the time at food prep sense I can not keep up. If my hubby could solely make his own meals on top of helping me with his work and helping my with my physical crippledness and this disease. He is all ready taxed to the max so I try to help him by making his lunches and dinners. He is already helping with chores that surround this disease. Like helping me get dressed. Doing his own laundry and the bedding on the bed and making his own breakfast. The weather is kicking his behind so I feel I need to give him as many breaks as possible. Well that's all I can think of for the situation. Ready for feed back. In Light Lynn Oh, dear Lynn. We knew you were having trouble with your condition, but the extent you describe is so vast. I'm so sorry you are dealing with all of this. I'm not medically trained, and I was just going to suggest something that has helped my back when I go to bed. I wish I were more knowledgeable so I could make some significant suggestions for you. I'm hoping others who have medical training might have some suggestions for you that I do not know about. The very positive thing I see in your post is that you have the help of specialists who are trained to do all they can think of to try to help you. And even more than that is the strong, incredible spirit you have to help make life work for you. I'm also impressed with the faithfulness and care of your husband, Lynn. Have you tried using pillows in bed to help prop different areas of your body in position in order to get support and comfort? For my bad back I sleep on my back using a long pillow that I prop my hips on and that my legs can extend on the length of pillow, also being propped up. It seems to help align my back greatly. I so wish I had more to offer. Does anyone else have some suggestions that might help Lynn in any way?
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Post by itzmajic on Jul 16, 2012 8:22:20 GMT -5
itchin4answers, I don't know honestly, but I do know there were alot more medical professionals at my NA meetings (narcotics anonymous, similar to alcoholics anonymous), alot more than any other NOTED professions. Especially nurses and doctors, I know a few nurses that are opiate dependent in real life, because they handle so much and the looooong hours+standing for long hours and then you mix in 15-30 pills for pain that an ER doctor may give them once and BOOM, you got yourself another addict..
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Post by Lynn on Jul 16, 2012 8:26:21 GMT -5
Hi Violet
Yes mame I sleep with three pillows for years now. My left hip is too loose in the socket to hold an alignment and will rest at such a angle that it will put pressure in bad places on the hip and knee. Makes me knee feel like it it inverting. I can only get to sleep on my right side and anywhere from 20 min. to 2 hours. That would be my least painful position. Then I can take tiny naps on my back which is my second least painful position.
If I heavily drug myself I can get a pretty good nights sleep but have to fight the side effects to get to sleep. Usually like I am falling even when laying there wide awake and cotton mouth. Most prescriptions give me horrid cotton mouth and if I cater to it then I have to get up and go pee all night and still get no sleep.
Thank you for the suggestion. I use to have to stay awake till 2 a.m. no matter what to get tired enough to get to sleep while in pain and make it till 6 a.m. before being driven out of bed. My tossing and turning made my poor hubby sleep deprived and he started getting sick all the time and missed work. He spent one whole year with bronchitis and living on antibiotics. He lost his job dew to being absent. Finding a better bed which took so much effort and money helped greatly. Now I can go to bed at midnight and then be driven out of be between 5 and 6 a.m. The pillows I started using almost 20 years ago.
Thanks for trying to help though very much appreciated.
In Light Lynn
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Post by itchin4answers on Jul 16, 2012 16:07:44 GMT -5
itchin4answers, I don't know honestly, but I do know there were alot more medical professionals at my NA meetings (narcotics anonymous, similar to alcoholics anonymous), alot more than any other NOTED professions. Especially nurses and doctors, I know a few nurses that are opiate dependent in real life, because they handle so much and the looooong hours+standing for long hours and then you mix in 15-30 pills for pain that an ER doctor may give them once and BOOM, you got yourself another addict.. Hi, things surely are not as they appear. People need to get real, get off the "God Delusion". Doctors & nurses are no different to you and I, but try telling family that and getting them to believe you. I swear, everyone around me is either brain dead or the mind snatchers have moved in. I'm betting both.
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Post by amyfye on Jul 21, 2012 14:07:00 GMT -5
I have to reply to the "one of the sources is Mexico". This has absolutely nothing to do with tar heroin or any other drugs obtained from Mexico , a gang , or any one individual. It has nohing to do with drugs at all. I have been racking my brain for years trying to recall anything that may have given me this awful disease.' I use to love flower gardens, loved to play in the dirt, before I developed degenerative disk disease with cervical and lumbar spurs that has disabled me from doing so. I thought maybe I picked up some kind of plant based bug or insecticde bug or something of that nature. This Is mentioned in some of the theories going around,'along with chemtrails and dental fillings, which I have also thought, that is where I contracted this awful thing. When I saw this post about Mexico, before I read it and the replies, I finally remembered something else. About 20 to 25 yrs. ago (kinda hard to remember and not important enough to look up) I made 2 trips to Mexico. The first trip was job related and free (thanks alot). It was a trip to the middle of the country and as I stepped off the small propeller plane with about 15 of my co workers, it was TOTAL CULTURAL SHOCK. Oh my, how these people live. I can not believe it is all by choice but a totally different culture. I mean what else do they know? How much of the other world are they exposed to? Compared to the US for the most part, it is just totally nasty. I mean what on earth does their government do with their pesos? When sewage backs up in your hotel room shower drain and the smell wakes you up in the middle of the night, now that is gross, unsanitary and just plain nasty. Who knows what was, still is, in the air that I breathed . I didn't drink the water but I had to eat. I suppose I could have gotten it there. One of the people I was with got so sick, she nearly died. She has passed on since but I do not know from what. But I feel more that it could have been on the second trip. A vacation to Cancun for a week with the girls. This resort town is hidden from the real Mexico. No sewage leakage, no clothes hanging out to dry on the roof of a 10 x 10 dilapidated shack, no chickens running through all kinds of yuck. Oh, they try to hide the real Mexico, to get our hard worked for, dollars. You can go right outside of Cancun and see what you think is bad, but that is probably planned to get more of your hard earned dollars back in the resort town. I did not intend to get invoved in how I feel about the Mexicans but to comment on how I contracted the disease. I can't believe they all want to kill us. This vacation was not a drunken sex party, just a week on the beach to relax and enjoy, to get away from the hustle and bustle of work. This is exactly what we did. Upon returning home, I itched so terribly bad that I was sure I had picked up pubic lice or scabies from the sheets or something .Doc said no. I insisted on meds for it. Everthing was fine until 6 or 7 yrs. ago And then the total hell began, with the intense itching, again I thought I had scabies,yet again Doc said no, then the fibers came. Next was the sores, brain fog, you all know the story. I have lichens disease and psoriasis YEA RIGHT. Mexico, I can belive it. Intentionally, oh lord Why. How could anyone hate another human that much? I know hatred that bad exists due to history, some of it quite recent but me I couldnt wish that on my one enemy. Yes I said one. Try to love everyone, Isn't that what we are supposed to do? DK really sorry to hear about your experience. This may sound bad, but at least you know how you got it. Anyone else know how they contrated it for sure? Anyone else been to Mexico and came home with an itch? I'm still searching for answers,and probably always will be!!! sheets, toilets, or somewhere. I went to the doctor and he said no I did not have them. I insisted on a prescription anyway. Everything was fine until about 6 years ago.
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Post by Lynn on Jul 21, 2012 14:43:56 GMT -5
Hi Amyfry
No sorry I think you may be on the wrong trail. I know of a young Mexican gal I am friends with who got this in New York. It devastated her and she had to move back to Mexico to live with her folks to be able to fight this mess.
I really think it is a combo that starts this whole mess. Some people like me feel they came down with it slowly while others say it was from a bug bite. I think its how the body comes down with it. Say you do not get enough warning symptoms and then one day you attract the right bug and get bit and it makes you have your first real outbreak. So folks who think it came from a bug bite still may have been coming down with it all along.
I did get some exposure to bad sewage when living in a different home we rented out in the country right along with poisons from the orchards and my own bug bombs to kill off fleas. The raw sewage it set against the outside wall of the entire house where all the bedrooms were. That is when I first started noticing a group of bugs crawl across the bed like they were looking for something.
Get this the farm house you to be a dairy for years before our high school friends parents bought the place and put in Almond trees. There would be times we would find dead critters and go to bury them and up out of the ground antic medicine bottles for cattle. Digital Bovine anyone? Then they had a water tank under the ground in the back yard next to the leach lines a few feet away. The tank lost it cap and they had a brick over the opening. Still enough room for rats, mice, and bugs to fall right in. Not sure exactly how that holding tank functioned when the pump to the water was across the driveway in a hut built back in 1921.
The pesticides and treatment of cattle and then our playing in the dirt may have a very big play in it. Those could be tag a longs though to the disease. I have recently this past month decided to lean into the direction that Morgellons is not the disease we started with. I believe it is a tag-a-long just like the bovine, and Lyme's that people get. I think the true disease that starts it all is either genetic, chemical, or best yet Hyper toxicity. Once that breaks us down enough then all the other things can jump on board and make a bigger problem. I think people have this that don't get the Morgellons portion of it at all. My Morgellons was always on a very small scale, but the bugs were in extreme portions. Yet I knew of two people who had Morgellons pretty badly and had no bugs.
Hope this helped you. In Light Lynn
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