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Post by Orion*** on Jul 25, 2005 3:35:33 GMT -5
From the Collumbola thread To:rickanddebbie > =--===-=-=-=-=-=-=Here is something to think about--carry it to your MD in MI if you want.I have spider like vaines on my thy ,inside close to the knee, I am suspicious of these and wonder if they are not morg related.Sooo this is what I did--I took my razor and shaved it of all hair--then spread some neosporin ointment on it then topped it off with DMSO and rubed it in,[you can get them to surface with almost any oil--oregano-caphorated--etc] I then set there under a good light with a high power magnifying glass. I could see these very small black specks start to appear on the surface of the skin, I picked them up with the tip of my pocket knife as they came to the surface. I would then wipe the tip of the blade with the black speck on a white piece of paper. After collecting a dozen or so I would examine them under my 30X microscope. Each black speck collected turned out to be a very small black thread in differant stages of unravelling.This in it self turns into a nerveunravelling experiance.Now take this story to your DR.at the University of MI.If need be I will send the paper with the threads that I had pop out of my leg directly to him.By golly when you can sit here and see them come out of your pores and be witnessed by other ppl we have one very weird thing going on. It is time some one with a scientific back ground took notice of this organism and find out what it is.The very big question that is on my mind at this point is , are all of my pores infected by this organism and if so what are the ramifications to my health and general well being.>I have a profuse growth of black specks, black and clear fibers on my scalp also. I believe that this is where it took hold in the begining.[It is spread by scratching with your finger nails] Last night I felt that my scalp was infested extra heavy--I took a large wadd of cotton and saturated it with hydrogen peroxide. I then started to saturate the scalp and rub it in.While resaturating the cotton ball I would notice that it was turning a dark gray --again upon examination with the 30X microscope I find the the cotton ball was super saturated with the black spots and fibers. It is obvious that the clear ones would not be visable on a white cottom ball.I was a straight A student in biology so I do have an understanding about things of this nature...Any one want proof that this does exist--I'd be happy to give a demonstration.>Where did this horror come from? Not from my world it didn't.IMHO it is not nature made--draw your own conclusions. Logged zigzag
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Post by jodyann52 on Jul 25, 2005 9:26:50 GMT -5
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Post by jeffinhburg on Jul 25, 2005 9:54:48 GMT -5
Jodyann,
Just trying to find something in common here - regarding the little black dots -- I'm thinking that you and I and Orion have very very similar symptoms, or at least similar complaints about them.
(1) When you applied the hot water, and then the surface of the skin dried -- did a bunch show up within that 10 minutes of drying time?
(2) Are there some that loosen, and others embedded in the skin? Where they are embedded, how, if at all, does that relate to the existences of any lesions or sores?
(3) You said that you thought they were gone. What were you using before to cause them to go away, or enough that you thought they were going away.
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Post by jodyann52 on Jul 25, 2005 14:11:58 GMT -5
jeff,i have been useing sulfur for a real long time,on my skin.it helps me deal with this.but i had not seen the little black dots in a long time.what comes out of my skin looks like worms.not all the same size light in color.i think the sulfur changes the color.. jeff this is what im taking now,cat't claw msm,viti-c, probotics a must..im going to start back taking my cod liver oil my mom is 90yrs old she takes it... for as long as i can remember. but she takes the oil.i tryed but i couldn't do it lol...... the sores on my skin r not has bad as they were. but my head and scalp r still pretty itchie, and nose,eyes this stuff has given me a deviated septum, i worry that my nose will become a saddle nose i sure hope not.. ans. to ?1.first i put on the sulfur.then rub my skin.then i sweep up the stuff.i was cleaning my dust pan and there they were.hidden in the white stuff, or worms so just look and you will see them.they hide out or did they hatch?
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Post by jeffinhburg on Jul 25, 2005 14:26:48 GMT -5
Thanks, I think. So that's what I might have to look forward to when I stop seeing the black dots? Yuck.
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Post by ANTHILL on Jul 25, 2005 17:04:52 GMT -5
Jeff, in my case I think the black dots are the adults The way I see it the more of them you can iradicate the less baby's eggs or whatever are made There in lies the catch 22 and that catch 22 is how to keep the exisiting nympe's and eggs from reaching adulthood and starting the fun all over again
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Post by SpecueLatin on Jul 25, 2005 18:10:44 GMT -5
JodyAnn
Maybe the cold-pressed coconut oil might help instead of cod liver oil.
I think the coconut oil is saturated fat. They recommend not to exceed 4 tablesppons in a day on the bottle I have.
Not an EFA, like codliver oil, but read about the properties of coconut oil. You can use it externally as well.
spec
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Post by susiebelle on Jul 25, 2005 18:11:36 GMT -5
orion: In ref to your so called spider veins. I too have them above my knee on my inner thigh. Also from the arch of my feet to my ankle on the inner side. When this first started the soft spot on top of my feet buldged out and was dark bluish green. I could see pulsing on top of ankle and had alot of cramping in my feet and calves. A couple of years ago I started having pains in my inner thighs and the dr. check circulation and for clotting, but didn't find anything abnormal. I went through a stage of neckpain on one side and had a check for blockage. It was abnormal but not severe. I have also seen a pulsation at the bottom of my sternum where the main aorta is. The color of my skin changes alot. Around my shoulders and above my collarbone is sometimes blue, geen, yellow, or white, and I have seen every bit of color drain out of my legs for no reason. Occasionally I have fealt a sting or bite behind my knee so sharp that I jumped up and out of my chair. Later I would have a big ugly bruise. I'm not overweight and do not have high blood pressure or vericose veins. Have you had any this happen to you sinse your symptims began?
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Post by bb on Jul 25, 2005 18:12:33 GMT -5
susiebelle, have you been tested for lyme?
Exactly, Anthill. I think the black dots are the adults because I have managed to eradicate them, for the most part. I think I am now just dealing with what is hatching out, but I'm killing them in the infra-red sauna. As they hatch, I kill. If I keep this up maybe somehow I can break the cycle.
I'm at the point that I'm going to try sleeping on my leather couch with a plastic sheet under my bedding. When I get up in the morning I will immediately put all bedding in the wash on hot. I thought that way when I go to bed I won't have to feel a thousand of them crawling into my hair from my pillow.
I am worried though that my husband will be attacked because I'm not there to feed on. So I'm going to make this change when we move our larger bed to the house. That way he will be in a bed that hasn't been slept in for some time, however it probably still holds my scent. So I'll be sure to use a ton of Febreeze. It worked on kerosine spilled in my trunk, so it could work.
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Post by susiebelle on Jul 25, 2005 18:51:19 GMT -5
NO I HAVEN'T BEEN TESTED FOR LYME BUT PLAN TO ASAP.
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Post by Good LUCK on Jul 25, 2005 20:19:48 GMT -5
Well don't bother with the ALISA test nor the Western Blot test - they both check for antibodies that your immune system releases if it finds the lyme bacterium in your system. This one has been engineered to mimick a gene antigen so no antibodies will be released and you'll get negative test results for both. Try IGeneX in Palo Alto if you really want an accurate test - the test for Lyme is extremely difficult because it can't be cultured (unlike candida or fungi/mold, both of which can be easily cultured - what a joke that other thread is) so they have to look for genetic sequencing to identify.
Good Luck
PS - As for the black dots/specks being "adults" - well all I can say is that they have been looked at under electron scanning scopes by pros, I've seen the reports, and they ARE bundles of fibers compacted. You draw your own conclusions but that is REAL science - not some assumption by someone with a magnifying glass.
PSS - Good luck treating this one naturopathically; depending on your own gene sequencing you'll be lucky to beat it with Cipro and tetracycline from what I now know - at least short term (long term there is hope). And candida is the least of your worries, I can absolutely assure you.
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Post by Orion*** on Jul 25, 2005 22:10:29 GMT -5
The black spots that come out of my pores ARE the black fibers in a compressed mode--egg or nymph. You don't need rocket science or a fancy microscope to see this,, A 30X resolution picks them up easly. It seems to me that they reside in pores and the mucus in the nose ,eyes, and they love the warm moist climate of the ears,,,ear wax makes a good lunch. Coconut oil is the best thing one can include in the diet--I eat it by the spoon full and cook with it. One of the best oils to nurish the indocrin system. www,mercola.com
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Post by Hope on Jul 26, 2005 11:56:50 GMT -5
I too have the spider veins on my inner thigh above my knee. Thanks for your important observations Orion! Keep them comming. To Good Luck, What do the reports say about the different colors, shapes, and sizes of the fibers? Is it all one in the same? Common sense tells me no. Peace, Hope
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Post by alr on Jul 26, 2005 12:25:30 GMT -5
Dont know if it's parasite worms or not, is it possible their connected? Check out kroegerherb.com. Do you check your ph level (cesium chloride)? Grapefruitseed extract is a strong anti bac' anti viral(lotion or internal). Also check Hulda Clark phd. Has anyone tried HCL acid drip.
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Post by Orion*** on Jul 26, 2005 21:09:19 GMT -5
These so called spider vaines deserve close scrutiny. I also have them on my feet--arch to ankle--profuse Could these be the breading ground for the morg--are these egg tubes? If I had a more powerful microscope I would cut one open to find out--they seem to be very close to the skin surface. This is where one becomes handycapped for lack of the right equipment. I have opened one of them up--it leaves an orangish streak that is VERY long in healing. I am rubbing in neosporin with DMSO to see what effect that has on them. If they are getting better its a mighty slow process.
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Post by jj on Jul 27, 2005 16:04:33 GMT -5
Well don't bother with the ALISA test nor the Western Blot test - they both check for antibodies that your immune system releases if it finds the lyme bacterium in your system. This one has been engineered to mimick a gene antigen so no antibodies will be released and you'll get negative test results for both. Try IGeneX in Palo Alto if you really want an accurate test - the test for Lyme is extremely difficult because it can't be cultured (unlike candida or fungi/mold, both of which can be easily cultured - what a joke that other thread is) so they have to look for genetic sequencing to identify. Good Luck PS - As for the black dots/specks being "adults" - well all I can say is that they have been looked at under electron scanning scopes by pros, I've seen the reports, and they ARE bundles of fibers compacted. You draw your own conclusions but that is REAL science - not some assumption by someone with a magnifying glass. PSS - Good luck treating this one naturopathically; depending on your own gene sequencing you'll be lucky to beat it with Cipro and tetracycline from what I now know - at least short term (long term there is hope). And candida is the least of your worries, I can absolutely assure you. Chem G is that you?
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Post by bugged1 on Jul 27, 2005 17:10:45 GMT -5
I too have the spider veins on my inner thigh above my knee. Thanks for your important observations Orion! Keep them comming. To Good Luck, What do the reports say about the different colors, shapes, and sizes of the fibers? Is it all one in the same? Common sense tells me no. Peace, Hope Shapes were similar but size was different for each color (black, red and blue). 4 patients were researched and all 4 had similar widths for each of the colored fibers. The fibers were attempted to be cultured with no success - they are DEFNITELY NOT CANDIDA nor FUNGI. This is REAL science, not some hairbrained theory. All documented in the Marin report using 4 patients from different parts of the Bay area. You peeps wanna get better??? Then heed this advice (and Hope's success) - Get some Cipro (500 mg 2x daily) and take with either tetracycline or Septra (whichever one your body can tolerate better) 4x daily for 10-60 days depending on severity of symptoms. This is NOT a JOKE peeps and long term infection can give rise to chronic LYME that can KILL YOU. Re-read those last two words and get some help PEEPS!!! Concerned, Chem G
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Post by itchingntexas on Jul 27, 2005 23:57:29 GMT -5
Freaky. I have these, too. I thought I was just getting vericose veins from having four kids! I will keep an eye out, as well.
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