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Post by pattiecakes on Jul 26, 2005 21:06:43 GMT -5
Hello Jess, I ate NO CARBS, ate only raw fruit and veggies and dranklTONS of water with fresh squeezed lemons in it for weeks and weeks. MY itching did not stop. I lost weight tho The Interstitial Cystitis that I had was cured with my new found abx treatment given by my new LLMD as has my itching. I do believe in candida and that it causes a pluthera of symptoms identical to lyme and many of its co-infections but it is unwise to say that morgellons and or people with lyme symptoms are only dealing with yeast and yeast alone. I have to disagree with you. patticakes
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Post by Hope on Jul 27, 2005 0:04:38 GMT -5
I'm with Pattiecakes on this one! I've been on antibiotics since April and have not gotten one sign of a yeast infection (knock on wood). My skin is much better though. Jes, I really wish it were that simple. I'm still glad to see that you are improving. Mabey this is your problem? Keep it up! Peace, Hope
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Post by jj on Jul 27, 2005 8:41:27 GMT -5
Oh boy, this is a tuff one. I do believe candida is a major contributer to alot peoples health problems in general. It MAY BE ONE of the original reasons why Morgellons sufferers and others natural immunity is comprimised. It isn't a simple infliction to treat or overcome. A strict anti candida diet is neccesary. I used to work for a company that employed a high percentage of our community which products were used world wide and our health insurance coverage was known as being one of the best around. One of the things that blew me away (in the info provided in the insurance three ring binder) was the fact that treatment for Candidiasis is NOT covered. What does that tell ya? ................ Again, candidiasis is quite prevelant but I feel there could be other organisims that cause the body to react in the same manner with the same symptoms listed in the above post. I also feel that it's possible some people with "chemical sensitivity" are actually suffering from the organisim's reaction within your body when exposed to certain chemicals. My chemical sensitivity has gradually gotten worse and the area's of the body where I react (like the sinuses) tell me that there is an infection of some sort. .................. In a nutshell; I agree with the others that Morgellons and Lyme ARE NOT ACTUALLY Candida, but testing for it and making and succesfully treating it is a process a sufferer must take in order to regain the natural flora/fauna and balance we need to aid our immune systems in fighting off illness in general as well as Morgellons and Lyme. .............. Still hangin, JJ
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Post by jes on Jul 27, 2005 9:15:52 GMT -5
Hello Jess, I ate NO CARBS, ate only raw fruit and veggies and dranklTONS of water with fresh squeezed lemons in it for weeks and weeks. MY itching did not stop. I lost weight tho The Interstitial Cystitis that I had was cured with my new found abx treatment given by my new LLMD as has my itching. I do believe in candida and that it causes a pluthera of symptoms identical to lyme and many of its co-infections but it is unwise to say that morgellons and or people with lyme symptoms are only dealing with yeast and yeast alone. I have to disagree with you. patticakes Hi, Were you been taking any antibiotics at that time? Any birth control pills? Any other things on the list that would feed the Candida? Jess
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Post by jes on Jul 27, 2005 9:16:57 GMT -5
I'm with Pattiecakes on this one! I've been on antibiotics since April and have not gotten one sign of a yeast infection (knock on wood). My skin is much better though. Jes, I really wish it were that simple. I'm still glad to see that you are improving. Mabey this is your problem? Keep it up! Peace, Hope Hope, If you are taking antibioitcs, your symptoms may temporarily improve, but you will NOT get better if this is Candida. For some reason antibiotics make people with Morgs feel better TEMPORARILY, but how many of us have the symptoms come right back after we stop? Jess
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Post by jes on Jul 27, 2005 9:24:32 GMT -5
The point that I need to get across is that TOO MANY OF US are trying to treat this with ANTIBIOTICS, which may make you feel better WHILE YOU ARE ON THEM, but you will never get better because antibiotics allow this disease to grow unchecked.
I will be blown away if I can get a report from JUST ONE person who says that they took antibiotics for severe Morgs, then got better, and NEVER had the symptoms return! I don't believe that has ever happened!
For some reason, due to misinformation and lack of understanding of what this really is, far too many of us go to the doctor asking for Sulfa or other antibiotics, but we will never get better that way.
Anyone who says that they were "just eating the stuff that's allowed on the Candida diet" and still feel sick, should look very closely at the other list of things one can do to antagonize Candida, because I bet they were doing something else like taking antibiotics.
You should not rule out the possibility of this being your disease because you were eating things allowed on Candida diet at the time and did not get better. It's quite likely that you were also doing something that would prevent you from getting any better.
If anyone thinks that there is some other organism present to cause all of the other symptoms, would they like to take a guess at what that could be, or why scientists haven't been able to discover what it's been in the last 10+ years?
Also, don't you think it's a little odd that medical insurance won't cover the disease Candida?
Jess
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Post by jj on Jul 27, 2005 13:34:43 GMT -5
Jess, With all that I am aware of concerning insurance companies I am not the least bit surprised that (in my case and maybe others) it was not covered. As far as other organisims being a possible culpret, many with the background and capabilities have repeatidly found organisims that are unidentifyable. Are any of us here able to determine what was pre-existing? Probably not. Like I said treat the candida when identified and your overall health and well being will improve. This in alot of cases especially if systemic will not happen in a short period of time. Good luck with your treatment and keep us informed of your progress. .............. Still hangin, JJ
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Post by pattiecakes on Jul 27, 2005 15:51:55 GMT -5
I was not on anti-biotics at the time of doing the candida diet. I am NOT on birth control pills. I have had a blood pcr testfor candida and it came out NEG.
I know a lot about candida as my son had it bad. Positive pcr for it.
consistent daily drops of oil of oregano wiped it out. His last 3 pcr tests were negative.
pc
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Post by jes on Jul 27, 2005 21:06:32 GMT -5
Hello Jess, I ate NO CARBS, ate only raw fruit and veggies and dranklTONS of water with fresh squeezed lemons in it for weeks and weeks. MY itching did not stop. I lost weight tho The Interstitial Cystitis that I had was cured with my new found abx treatment given by my new LLMD as has my itching. I do believe in candida and that it causes a pluthera of symptoms identical to lyme and many of its co-infections but it is unwise to say that morgellons and or people with lyme symptoms are only dealing with yeast and yeast alone. I have to disagree with you. patticakes Dear patticakes. If you have Candida, you cannot eat raw fruits. Even lemons. The sugar content will keep you sick. Pretty much every fruit can be attributed to Candida because they contain sugar. Jess
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Post by Administration on Jul 27, 2005 21:58:38 GMT -5
I also was a very good eater before I got sick. A health nut. No sugar, low carbs or fat in my diet. No antibiotics or birth control.. One day I just got sick.. went from really healthy to sickly.. then shortly after the pain started. I believe I have Candida now.. being on all the Lyme meds.. But I have no symptoms of Morgellons anymore.. just the Lyme symptoms. I also ate tons of fresh veggies back then.. I was the picture of health. No way this just happened overnight. I dont have a sweet tooth and never did. If this is Candida out of control.. its coming from another source.. like airbourne or something.. weird I know..But at this point I would believe anything.
Kerry
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Post by Sorry on Jul 27, 2005 22:02:22 GMT -5
I have yet to see a Candida diet that says you can't eat lemons. In fact, lemon is what they state shold be used in the place of vinegar.
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word from dr s on this
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Post by word from dr s on this on Jul 27, 2005 22:27:28 GMT -5
nice try but your about 1 year behind me on this...yes I know we all should be on some sort of low carb...definatily no sugur..no alchohol..no wrong antibiodics diet....and I asked dr swartz the candita question on the phone when we talked...he nailed it....What he said still rings in my ears....he said " I WOULD RATHER HAVE CANDITA 10 TIMES OVER THAN HAVE ANY OF THIS FIBER STUFF IN MY BODY ANYDAY" you see..his reasoning is candita while potentally serious...is not nearly as deadly as this condtion...and the severaty of the lesions and fibers exceed candita which can be controlled (easily) with diflucan..this is a fungus like bacteria..since it lives in water..it is a psudomonios...water borne bacteria...for shure..so anti fungal will help...anything that dries and starves the basterds out....anybody out there try a fast with no juice or NO carbs..and you will see results.
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Post by frisk on Jul 28, 2005 0:25:47 GMT -5
Hi Jess. I do beleive candida plays a part in this for me. But there is one person with morgellions that got rid of this and it has never come back with antibiotics. Her name is Samantha and goes by DD. Imsure some people remember her. She eats and does everything like normal now and leads a normallife. Anybody heard from DD lately?? :-*Frisky Cat
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