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Post by felixwillford on Mar 11, 2008 17:12:50 GMT -5
Listen for FREE..................I recieved info regarding a 2 hour radio talk show on a different board. This radio interview took place on March 8th between these three Doctors regarding Morgellon's. The show is called The Temple of Health Radio Show Interview. Here is the link:www.radiosandysprings.com/temple.php
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 11, 2008 17:29:40 GMT -5
Dr. Staniger is talking of P. Putida and Dr. Wymore.
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Post by browncircles on Mar 11, 2008 20:04:05 GMT -5
Try to listen to this if you have time. It's pretty good.
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Post by toni on Mar 11, 2008 20:23:13 GMT -5
Thanks Kmarie for the link.
I must be blind...I'm not seeing the one with Dr. Wymore. Is it on that page?
Thanks.
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Post by skytroll on Mar 11, 2008 20:30:04 GMT -5
Very good show.
Skytroll
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 11, 2008 20:33:39 GMT -5
Dr. Staniger talks of Dr. Wymore finding the P.Putida on the fiber and explains it.
I fell asleep and didn't hear dr. kolb or dr. raynor....................... I have to listen again.
What I did hear was good information. NOT FAR FETCHED from Dr. Staniger. She explains that nano just means small not "science fiction".
We have nano particles now in some "spray cleaners" used in hospital.
I wonder if we are breathing those particles in our lungs?
Before I fell asleep, Dr Stanniger was talking about the enviroment and P. putida and it's uses. I have to listen again since I fell asleep
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Post by praying4usall on Mar 11, 2008 22:55:00 GMT -5
Best information yet!!! Listened to it off our board!
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Post by cyn on Mar 11, 2008 23:24:17 GMT -5
Excellent, Dr. Staninger used the term "tootsie roll" to describe one of the elements. That is exactly the shape I have been trying to describe when I say "rods". When I first saw these clear-glass like tootsie rolls they were standing up on my hand. When I handled one, trying to get it off, it was like rubber, which surprised me. Because it looks so much like glass I expected it to be hard. Anyway, I believe these were rods of concentrated fiber. Like, one rod could stretch out to be ten yards long, and still be seen by the naked eye. However, I don't know if it self-assembled in the environment or in me.
Then Dr. Staninger talked about (Jan ?) having back surgery, and the surgeons finding fiber. That scares the hell out of me. When the fiber/fungus gets into my spine, well I won't go into it, but it is my number one fear. So this was the first time I had heard proof that it will go all the way to the spine. I would rather it killed me through the heart, brain, kidney... anything but that.
I had to get another MRI the other day for my new spine doc, but he said the fungus would not show up on the film unless it was solidified. Well, if it was solidified, I would have felt it, (touching the spine) I mean. I was hoping it would show up in a still fluid shape allowing one to know where it is headed or how close it is to certain areas.
Then the doctor spoke of people who are predisposed to this disease, could have been from workplace contamination. Well, I was a welder for sixteen years. I even have Cobalt 60 contamination, let alone the aluminum, copper-nickel, stainless etc... Oh, and tons of carbon contamination.
She is beginning to make more and more sense to me, every time I hear her. At first I thought she was way off track.
If I thought I still had a chance, I would go see her. But her description of the latter stages is just where I'm at. Where the plastic grows up the esophagus, and you choke on it. What has been coming up in me is still about six inches long, mostly flat with squared off ends. Other times just regular strings/ropes of still fluid fungus. And then she mentioned the red spots, I'm pulling quite a bit of red fibers, blood and other stuff from the nasal area now. Hopefully it won't be long now. The trick is to get the coroner to put Morgellons as the cause of death. Thats what we need, a body count to get more public news attention.
Sorry for rambling, we always take it out on those closest to us.
Thank you Kmarie!!!!!
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Post by gradysghost on Mar 12, 2008 7:11:28 GMT -5
Putida? Well imagine that. IMPORTANT, HERE IS A SNIPPET FROM A POST AT FINDING1CURE I was told that she had recieved an e-mail stating that people taking Opaline since last Sept and participating in FIR, have been cured of their Morgellon's.Now, whether or not this is true I do not know. However, the opaline oxygen is getting very good reviews and supposed breaks down this plastic like nobodies business. opalinesolutions.com/
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Post by paddel on Mar 12, 2008 7:22:49 GMT -5
Hello all,
Has anyone used these Opaline Dry Oxy capsules? for an extended period of time?? I was wondering about their effectiveness. The one product is being promoted after another and am sick of all the different things advised. Non seem to cure the problem
Paul
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Post by toni on Mar 12, 2008 8:52:03 GMT -5
I sure don't want to be the negative one about this (liquid or dry oxygen) but read this...and there's more links too. www.quackwatch.com/04ConsumerEducation/News/vitamino.htmlI will admit several years ago I bought some drops that were also touted as "stabilized oxygen for the skin" (before Morgellons)...and then I read up, and found out it was nothing but a waste of money. Which I found that out too by seeing nothing happened by using the products I'd purchased. The only way to get oxygen into the body and to our cells in the blood is "through the lungs". Also something even more agressive is I know several people who've spent a fortune on oxygen treatments, and they're still in the same condition with Morgellons, as even those pure oxygen treatments at several hundred bucks a pop didn't do a thing. (I'm not saying don't try it). I'm just "sharing" what I've purchased and tried myself, which are the drops, and what I've learned from others getting up to 12 oxygen treatments for Morgellons.
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 12, 2008 9:17:40 GMT -5
I still have not listened to the entire radio show, hopefully will find time today. Have read all the post. This below was found on different group. Paul, I feel like you, sick and tired of "oh this will work" and then again.............. no "this is the one that really works".................. goes on and on. Toni, Thanks so much for your link, very informative and allows us something to consider. We have had are share of quacks cures! ============================================== Post from other board:In finding1cure@ yahoogroups. com, fritolay66 <fritolay66@ ...> wrote: www.OpalineSolutions.comIt is capital sensitive. The creator is Sandy and you can reach her by phone at 866-933-3321.
Her mailing address is PO Box 91738, Tucson, AZ., 85752. She is a wonderful lady and I am sure if you wanted to speak with her directly, she would be happy to. She is currently working with Dr. Staninger and she created this product for her husband whom was afflicted with a serious illness. Tell her Laurie from Kansas City said to call. There were two of you whom inquired about this. One of you asked if I felt it had made a difference. Definately yes. Nothing I was doing worked until I did several cleanses and started taking these. When you first start taking them, if you.....ummm. ....burp, you may taste an H2O2 type of thing. It goes away in a week. Also when you first start taking it, it tends to give you a bit of an energy burst, but this levels off as well. Will I reorder, again yes. I plan on taking it for quite sometime. I had tried other products, including the reknowned Cell Food, but Opaline seems to work better for me. At my worst point, I was taking five or six doses a day for a few days. I now only take 2 to 3 doses per day. I don't think any one product will effect a cure in any of us. I believe it allows the other things I am doing to do better. Good Luck, if any one tries it, let me know what you think. END OF POST From Finding1cure at Yahoo Groups ============================================= I simply don't know what to think...................... perhaps the cleanses were was helped? I am still ONLY thinking! Can't be wasting money again.
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Post by toni on Mar 12, 2008 9:24:48 GMT -5
Thanks Kmarie. for understanding what I'm saying. Cause I'm not trying at all to get in anyone's way, never-never. I'm only sharing (my experience).
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 12, 2008 9:26:25 GMT -5
Toni, From your Link............... I have no point of view on this topic except that the FEDERAL Trade Commission? ?? Can they be trusted? FDA wants to take away our herbs and supplements so we are forced to take "Pharma drugs". Just my thoughts. I do think herbs can help a whole lot. This oxygen thing..........I just don't have all the information on and can't form any opinion except that I won't be wasting any money until I am more informed. Much Thanks Toni for giving us a different point of view. ========================================== The FTC ReactsOn March 11, 1999, the Federal Trade Commission filed suit charging Rose Creek Health Products, Inc., of Kettle Falls, Washington, its sister corporation (Staff of Life, doing business as R-Garden Internationale), and president Donald L. Smyth with making blatantly false and unsubstantiated health claims for "Vitamin O." [1] The defendants' ads -- which have appeared in USA Today, in other newspapers, and on the Internet -- have claimed that "Vitamin O" can cure or prevent serious diseases such as cancer, heart disease, and lung disease. An National Public Radio report quoted Smyth as saying that his company was selling 50,000 bottles per month [2]. The FTC says that the product appears to be nothing more than salt water. The defendants had claimed that "Vitamin O," when taken orally, enriches the bloodstream with supplemental oxygen. The ads state that Vitamin O consists of "intact oxygen molecules in a liquid solution of distilled water, sodium chloride and trace materials." The complaint also states that the defendants, through statements and testimonials contained in their ads, falsely represented that "Vitamin O": administered orally allows oxygen molecules to be absorbed through the gastrointestinal system boosts energy, improves breathing, promotes sound sleep, sharpens concentration and memory, prevents and is an effective treatment for life-threatening diseases, including cancer and pulmonary disease is an effective treatment or prevention for many other physical ailments, including breathing problems, chronic headaches, infections, colds and flu regulates metabolism, aids digestion, relaxes nervous system, and has other beneficial effects on human health was developed by Dr. William F. Koch and used by National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) astronauts during NASA space missions. On May 3, 1999, a federal judge issued a temporary restraining order requiring Rose Creek and Staff of Life to stop making unsubstantiated claims that ingesting "Vitamin O" or spraying it on the skin can cure or prevent ailments. In addition, personal testimonials must include disclaimers. Depite the injunction, R-Garden continued to use testimonials to promote "Vitamin O." A new booklet, accompanied by an order blank dated 7/7/99, contained more than 150 testimonials claiming benefit for asthma, canker sores, chronic bronchitis, cough, diabetic ulcers, ear infections, fatigue, glaucoma, hemorrhoids, arm and shoulder pain, immune weakness, lung emobolism, memory loss, obesity, prostate problems, shingles, and many other problems. One write-up even claimed that the user was able to stop using a breathing machine [3]. The booklet stated that, "as the research continues, and more people use the product, the results will be even more rewarding." Thirty-five of the write-ups are accompanied by a photograph. Each of the 30 pages containing testimonials included the following message in small print: DISCLAIMER: These testimonials do not imply results will happen with your use of one of our products. We have no competent or reliable scientific evidence to suggest that the testimonial experience is due to the use of our products. These testimonials are not intended to recommend any supplement as a drug, as a diagnosis for specific illnesses or conditions, nor as a product to eliminate diseases or other medical conditions or complications. We make no medical claims as to the benefits of any of our products to improve medical conditions. The FTC's guide to dietary supplement advertising states that advertisements must be truthful, not misleading, and presented so that they are actually understood by consumers [4]. A fine-print disclosure at the bottom of a print ad, for example, is unlikely to be an adequate disclaimer. I believe that R-Garden's booklet was still misleading. =============================================
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 12, 2008 9:29:49 GMT -5
If it is just salt water, that may be why some who used baking soda in their water report getting better and or feeling better.
Still no cures.
============================================= HERE IS ANOTHER POST FROM THE OTHER BOARD:
This program should be listened to by all with Morgellons.
To paraphrase: They are now saying the fibers and chemicals are harboring fungus, bacteria and bugs. If she's right and she's done extensive research - we've got it all folks.
The technology that we're infected with is so advanced, labs don't have the equipment or knowledge to know what to look for. She doesn't feel we are infectious.
We are candidates for other diseases due to the mycrotoxins( sp?) building up, such as diabetes, lung cancer, muscular dystrophy, etc..
Our treatment is all about detoxing our bodies! Colon cleansing and enimas very important. I've got some work to do.
Thank you so much Frito for posting this.
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Post by ruth on Mar 12, 2008 11:41:55 GMT -5
i listened to the program twice. she says we are all exposed, but only if we encounter some kind of (elf?) will it activate to start replicating in the body. she addresses the insects and worms towards the end of the film.
i am very pleased to see these 2 doctors comparing notes and mentioning silentsuperbug's data. i am so grateful to jan and the other researchers for putting this in motion by retaining dr. staninger. i pray for all daily.
i feel that i have been part of some sinister experiment. lots of strange occurances for 4 years, then i got lasered with a tatoo to my right side of my navel. it was a double oval with a cross in the center. it was 3/4 as that part went into my navel. it lasted as white outlined for over a year.
i ordered dr. hilde's protocol, and dettol, but am too sick to do anything but be a zombie. do you understand zombie? i wonder if that is the end result of their experiement?
i have ordered bob becks' protocol, maybe it'll short circuit the batteries being made?
then, i'll have the ability to do hilde's protocol, and use the dettol? i do greeting cards to pay for this stuff!!!! something, sometime has to work!!!!!
pray on this for me, please, that this works for me, so we may all get better! i have too many lesions to even count. it is spring.. crawlies, sweats, getting ready to pop out a bunch of insects again. i hate it.
the edta/tetracyline/minerals stopped the insect formation last summer. i had a hard time keeping the protocol down. i am so disdained by all the meds i've done, i gag on taking anything, knowing i'll be throwing it up.
i hadn't gotten sick with anything but morgellons, for years. this year i have had 2 colds. this is since using the far-infrared pad nightly, i put it over my abdominal area, it helps keep my bowels working, as they are really messed up.
i've been using epsom salts to clean my colon. i am wondering if that will mess up my electrolytes? dr. h. suggests a can of okra. man, i hope i can get it swallowed, it is soooooooo slimey!
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Post by cyn on Mar 12, 2008 14:42:27 GMT -5
Yes, basically we need to clean our selves out. But there are a million products. I will start with the okra until someone can point me in the right direction for a colon cleanse, then I believe she said gall bladder??? I will listen to it again. Maybe KMARIE will share with us the products she used?
TONI you were right again, about being polarized. And a long time prior to any doctor speaking of it. Ha! How can oxygen help when the fungus and other stuff obviously need it to survive. Are they trying to overdose the fungus on oxygen?
RUTH, Why are you so sick? That stage should have gone away by now. The zombie stage. Sounds like toooo many cures/Rx's in your body. I doubt the okra will stay down in me too. Never have cared for it. I do hope you get to feeling better.
I'm supposed to go get blood work today, but looking at my arms and hands, there are white bumps or puddles of fungus either over or in all my veins. Wonder where they will stick me???
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Post by felixwillford on Mar 12, 2008 21:32:33 GMT -5
Cyn,
I have not used any products except for taking Tetracycline and at times flagyl.
In the beginning when I had bad lesions, I used Fenbendazole and it helped
to kind of put me in remission as far as lesions go.
I am now suffering the Neurological effects, neuropathy in my feet and going up my legs. I have passed out a few times and was in the hospital ER 2x for a mini-stroke.
I suffer visual distrubances and trouble with balance and that may also be due to my feet. Not feeling them is no fun.
I have purchased something called THera Clear from a local herb store as a colon cleanse, but have not been diligent with taking it as I should so it sits in the cabinet unused.
I have used Ivermectin and Equimax in the past...... not since last May 2007.
The antibiotic seems to be OK.................not a cure and I am getting worse, but I have some stresses right now that are contributing to my disease process. I take a mutivitamin, B-complex, and benadryl too!
CYN,
Is there anything in particular that you want to know about products I use? I would be happy to answer any questions you have. But, I am not cured.
Oh, I do have cats claw, but like my herbal cleanse..........it usually sits in the cabinet. If I remember anything else..............I'll post or PM you. Be sure to let me know specifically what you want to know.
I hope you are doing well.
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Post by laylo on Mar 12, 2008 21:44:48 GMT -5
if I remember correctly she stated that people that have problems breaking down carbohydrate are good canditates for this morgellons stuff. that would be me. and also she said sometime about hispanics not getting the lesions because of skin type. that would be me too!
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Post by robertalouise26 on Mar 12, 2008 22:38:42 GMT -5
Dearest Kmarie YOU MUST DO YOU COLON CLEANSE!!!!!!! It is not helping you sitting in the cupboard now is it? ? These things breed there. Also I highly suggest that you take Multi Vitamin B PLUS VITAMIN B6. It helps all the nerve endings and it does help!!!! But you must take the two together!!! Please plese try this I am sure that you will get feeling back in you feet and it willhelp you all over. Love and best wishes. Roberta.
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