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Post by Travis on Jun 1, 2005 21:48:29 GMT -5
Okay I have to retype this, yipee.
So I have been being treated for Lyme/Morgellons disease for 5 months. Everything has been fine, except in the last two weeks or so I noticed that I could feel a little movement or possibly bite about 1-2 hours before I took my medication.
Anyway, I come back home one night and I just get a huge morgellons attack. A complete and incapacitating attack that hadn't happened since the first time I contracted it. I got freaked out about all the bugs in my house, since there were pretty much zero when I left(and nothing was left open), and I had come back two hours later. Anyway, I started freaking out about the bugs since I have insectphobia sometimes, like in situations like this. I call my friends and can't really get a hold of them. I don't know what to do, but I just can't stay in the house. I believe that I need new antibiotics because they became resistant to it.
So I call the ER. Bad idea, but lets continue the story. The ER docs get there and i'm sweating, literally, from the morgellons and just the fear of the insects. I tell them that I have morgellons disease which was diagnosed by my nurse practicioner, and the fact that I just need to get out of the house. I tell them to go take a look in the tub(I had just taken an epsom salt bath to see if that would help the morgellon attack). They come back and tell me that they saw some strange things that may or may not of been parasites(which was what was left after I got out). Anyway, they eventually take me off in a van. I don't know what else to do.
So I get to the ER and the nurse immediatly asks for a urine sample of course. I don't know how to explain it but I swear that the environment around me was changing... like I touched one of the icecubes and it just went into my skin and left a normal white sprout. Anyway, I drank the water, even though it made my throat feel like there was a fungus growing in it. Every drink, and it felt more and more like a strep throat. Anyway, I was dehydrated when I got there.
I drank 12 cups of water and I was still dehydrated. The arrogant and bitchy nurse told me that I couldn't have any more and that I had to take a urine test soon, or else they would do it manuallly(yes, it's real fun to, the most painful thing i've ever felt). Anyway, after about 2-3 hours I urinated about 6-7 droplets, which was all I could force out of myself. The nurse came in and said it was okay(thank god). She came back later, and matter-of-factly said I had amphetamines in my system. I told her that Provigil often gives false positives for that and that ended her snide comments.
So during all this time I was walking around, itching like hell, not being able to sleep, and everything else. The doc finally came in and I explained everything. I explained that I had a REAL disease and he could call Ginger Savely, my nurse practicioner if he wanted to to confirm. He talked a little more about bs things and then was about to go. I asked him if he wanted to examine me or at least look at my hand(which had morgellon crap coming out of me. He said no, to which I pleaded and asked for some antibiotics. He left the room.
Anyway, blah blah blah, hours and hours of being attacked by these things and no one cares. One nurse did actually, I showed her a few weird things like one the fibers that would grow, and grow and grow. Basically she came back every so often to watch how far the thing had gone and was pretty amazed that this fiber was growing by itself. Anyway, she of course knew that I didn't use the bed anymore(which was where the hair was.). After 4 hours from it being 3 inches, it grew to about a foot, wrapping around in weird ways. I told her that if you wanted to watch it disapear, I could just touch it and it would probably enter my finger and go into my body. She sort of looked at me like she might believe me, and she said yes. I touched the hair very bairly with my right finger so she could see that I wasn't tricking her or anything, and basically the hair vanished into my finger. She was amazed again, and she wanted me to tell her all of the "normal" morgellons symptoms that we have. I told her them, and told her this website. Anyway, she was the nurse who after the doctor ordered me to be sent away, she got in a fight about it(this is what I heard from the mental ward)saying that I was not mentally ill, suicidal, or a threat to myself or others.
Anyway, basically a great ignorant, arrgoant, know-it-all social worker/psychologist came in to "assess" me. I knew it was all over then, mainly because the doctor wouldn't tell me my diagnosis, and the fact that this certain social worker already had her mind made up before she entered the room. So she asked me quesions and I responded to them. It wouldn't of mattered what i've said anway. There were no right answers in her game.
So then I hear i'm getting shipped off to a mental ward in Seton Shoal Creek, which i've been before, but only on the drug addicts ward, which is heavenly compared to the crazy ward.
I had good thoughts though. I thought that I would be able to see my doctor that day, and i'd be out of there, since my doctor knows my whole sitution. Well it turns out it's Sunday, and Monday is a holiday. So my doctor didn't find out I was there until Tuesday. And of course, as soon as he came in, he was like, yah sorry for the wait you shouldn't of even been here.
And he apologized for the two previoud doctors that saw me, because they knew nothing about me except my medical record which didn't contain much in the way of the human spirit. They breezed through it in ten seconds flat both times each man saw me, went on some pointed psychologically viewpoint that they had concoccted, and labeled that as universal law basically. I might not be intelligent but I have a BA in Psychology. So when I actually cut through their bullshit psychogarggle, they got a little snippity with me since they were supposed to have the upperhand, and they were supposed to be the only ones to diagnose what I was. Who I was basically. I continued with both of them on those two different days to just annoy the hell out of them by confronting them on there basic procedures they were using to try and convince me I was insane. I told them they should of tried harder, and put some more effort into the doc-patient relationship. The first one just said okay, fine, if you don't want to listen to this serious disease of psychosis that you have, then that's fine, but i'm not going to take these defense mechanisms that you've built up to ignore anything pertinent I say. I told him good day sir, sorry I couldn't of been of more service but i'm currently in psychosis, which only limits me to be unable to talk lucidly, logically, and in calm psychological state of mind. I think he laughed when he left... ahh great times.
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Post by Travis on Jun 1, 2005 21:49:24 GMT -5
Then the second left when I asked him if he could please cleanse his doors of perceptions so he would be able to have what psychologists refer to as an "open mind." He got angry and told me that maybe I shouldn't of cleansed my doors of perceptions or whatevre the frick it meant, and not used so many drugs like pot and lsd(I've never usen these or any other hallucinogens). He then left telling me that I would be sorry for wasting my time(HAH)and that I would have to start working on my psychological problems.
Ahhhh what a great laugh. I really want to get a PHD so the next time someone like one of these fellows tries something like this to an innoncent person, I can just tell them to get the frick out of the interview process.
Anyway, it was horrible there at the ward. You had to bang on a glass barricade(where the administration hid, although they weren't suppposed to), to get freaking water! You had to bang on the glass to get medications, to ask questions, to generally get things you needed to get done, done. But this was himpered by the fact that we would see one, maybe unimportant person come out of there every 2 hours or so. The rules written on the walls state that they were supposed to come out every 15 minutes(just one administrator). The other fun thing is that we can use a phone, but the staff love using ours since it's portable, and they only have like 10-12 hardwired phones and WAYYYY too many staff for all those phones(6-8 staff). So the first time I got there it took five hours to get the phone. It's our basic right to a phone, and the fact I had to wait 5 hours just teed me the frick off.
Oh and everything had a 3-4 hour turnaround rate. I'd ask for pen, or pepsi(with my own money), or for a form, and it would be done in about 3-4 hours. I'm not joking. That's how laughable that floor was. On the 5th floor, the one I was on for drug detox counseling, it was heaven. The administration wasn't inclosed in the glass thing unless they had to be, they would just sit around and talk with us. We had our own kitchen, we could make coffee, get chips, milk, juice, icecream, cereal, and all other kinds of snack food. Not to mention we could go down to the cafeteria to eat at lunch, which was like a buffet. We also had everything unlocked. We had about 50 VCR movies we could just put in and play whenever we wanted. We could bring stuff like cd players, guitars, and everything like that. The staff on the 5th floor was awesome, they were spot-on, always on time, would always have any info you needed and were always available. The other place I was sent to was hell. Not to mention I had morgellons attacks the whole time I was there.
So my doc got me out when he got there on Tues, and now i'm out.
Anyway, after what happened I don't care about anything anymore. I've resigned myself to narcissist. The things that these doctors have put me through have almost made me committ suicde a number of times due to this illness. Now i'm reexperiencing what that was like.
All I know now is that i'm purchasing a gun. If I ever go into an ER again, let me tell you, i'll be armed, or if I have to a social worker.
I could care less about these people. Go ahead and close your mind up some more, if you makes you feel sunny and euphoric, and go ahead take some more of your own samples, you know the ones... those benzodiazepines who you don't feel safe to prescribe to normal people, and of course those Opiates, Tylenol 3/4, Vicodin and all of it's others, that you also feel horrible to prescribe to people since it might actually take care of their pain more than all of these great new NSAIDS like Vioxx, and Ibuprofen which can't touch Codeine on a therapeutic level. But feel free to take the opiates/benzos yourselves, and give your patients the stomach damaging and possibly stroke causing meds that don't work for pain while your messed up on your own medication. Heh heh
I'm going to try to file a lawsuit against the doctor for malpractice. If that doesn't happen, then who knows?
I just think i'm too much of a burden on this world, me being the crazy guy that takes too many tax dollars and money from my parents, who can't hold a job because my chronic fatigue syndrome is beyond contol. I think I would just do a a world a favor if someone killed me or I considered suicide which is against my religion(Gnostic/Buddhism).
I'm sick of it all. I want cancer or something, then at least the doctors would agree I have something. Bleh who cares . I'm sorry for writing this boring message. I've been working a lot with lab samples and maybe if I figure out a certain way to control infection, i'll also be able to infect certain biological creatures that happen to be in my blackblook. And if that ever got started, whooweee, would the government actually come down and say that there is a problem, but only of course having tons and tons of Psychologists, Dermatologists, and Er Docs who have gotten this sTraNGe disease and have taken every advantage to say that they are completely sane and not lying.
Anyway, i'm tired and the last few paragraphs probably need revision. I hope these doctors/psychologists know how much pain they are causing to people like me. Because there is such a thing as karma, even if you don't believe in an afterlife or in karma. They'll feel my pain whether it is in this life or the next. And that doesn't even give me a gratifying feeling. All I want from one of their mouths would be the phrase "i'm sorry that I didn't know you had this rare disease and i'm sorry for the pain that caused." Thats all I want from those doctors who have wronged me but the only thing they seem to respond to are lawsuits.
Or potentially infectable morgellons strains
Or to guns
Or to God
There is only one path for me, but only in a dream is it's memory stored. Let me walk it in a clear path, but let my lessons be learned along the way so I don't become what I do not want to become. I will tread the passage until I can reach the end. And then I will come out. Whether dead, or alive, whether closed or open mined. Whether morally changed, or morally deranged, At the end of the path will be who i've always been, but who i've always masked. Let me continue my journey into the vast.
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Post by Administration on Jun 3, 2005 21:49:50 GMT -5
Travis Listen to me. Do you think you are the only one who feels this way? I feel exactly like you do, many of us do. Let me tell you something. I see you are angry and that is what you need! Be angry enough to live through this so you can get even.. do you hear me!? Why would you ever consider suicide right now after all this? After what they did to you? Are you kidding me? Would you die letting them get away with this? They will only say "see, I told you he was insane".
Let me tell you something.. they want nothing more than to be rid of you so they don't have to deal with you. I was going to end my life too. When I found out thats exactly what they wanted me to do.. It teed me of enough to do the opposite!
If anything.. I will do what I can to survive this so I can burden their lives with my rantings and make life harder for them. I really think you should do the same.
Geez.. I sit around with my sick friends on the phone or in emails just plotting things I can do.. I live for that!
Don't do what they want you to do.. you are letting them all off easy. Is that really what you want? Or do you want to live thru this and get even? I believe we all deserve that pleasure..
Why dont you mail me.. Lymebusters@webtv.net
Stay angry Travis.. mad is better than sad. Quit being sad and stand up for yourself. You get yourself a lawyer, you sue these bastards. You have been treated unfairly just like many of us.. dont end your life, make their lives miserable instead!
Kerry
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Post by ANTHILL on Jun 5, 2005 12:40:35 GMT -5
Hey Travis I know what your going through the last doctor that I went to see threatened to commit me when I got insistent and difficult I had already been through the mental health ringer back in my want-TA-be hippie days back in the 70s and I knew what I was in for If I kept going to that doctor What a joke he was! they just have know Idea although they think they do in a pompous kind of way
The mental health profession is as big a joke as the medical for the most part
Anyway the point is Once your in the mental health system it is vary hard to get out of It So I knew that I had to kick this doctor to the curb Although pissing on his shoes would of made me feel better That was the last doctor I ever saw that was about three years ago' since then I have been on my own
If your one of the ones that are lucky enough to have Ginger helping you My advice to you is that you see only her and don't go to other doctors that don't understand this condition like you did" moregellons is not a proved medical condition as of yet"--- and most doctors wouldn't know what your talking about and even if they did most would call moregellons balderdash
I was thinking while I was writing this to you' ---If you were doing good before this flareup do you think you might be having a herxermer reaction which is part of getting well? something to think about" ------ it might do you good to continue Ginger's treatment even though the herx is no pick-nic and scary as hell we all must bite the bullet and conger the inner strength within us----bright blessings[/size][/color]
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Post by ppy on Jun 6, 2005 5:58:43 GMT -5
could someone explain the herxermer reaction to me
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Post by Patti on Jun 6, 2005 9:11:51 GMT -5
Hi PPY,
The jarisch-herxheimer reaction is generally caused by a person with a spirochetal disease taking antibiotics (and possibly other non-prescription treatment options) which cause a die-off of bacteria. In "most" cases, people with borrelia-based diseases will have these reactions and often it's their first clue that something serious is wrong.
As these spirochetes die, they release a toxin into our bodies which often cannot be dealt with fast enough to avert the debilitating symptoms.....some say this is due to the thickened blood that most of us sufferers have. It cannot handle the dead bacteria that is being released into the bloodstream and tissues, which causes inflammation and a worsening of the symptoms we already have and often new symptoms as well.
One may experience a myriad of symptoms including nausea, headaches, increased night sweats, chills, swollen glands, pain throughout the body and deep into the bones, and the burning sensation we all are probably familiar with. These symptoms can occur within hours of taking the antibiotic but generally come on in a day or two and last a couple more days. Many who are being treated for Lyme say their herxes come on once a month and are very noticable, while others have a hard time distinguishing a herx from the actual symptoms of the disease.
I believe that many doctors mistake this herxheimer situation as a bad reaction to the antibiotic and the patient is taken off a potentially helpful medication because the doctor doesn't understand this reaction is a good thing....it means the meds are working.
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Post by ANTHILL on Jun 6, 2005 9:18:08 GMT -5
In all cases of the Herxheimer, there is the appearance of a war or tussle going on inside the body akin to the antigen/antibody warfare, where the body produces fever, sweat, aching and swollen joints, diarrhea, nausea, and so on, in varying proportions with varying degrees depending upon state of metabolism, genetics, source of disturbance and so on and so forth in our case it may result in the morgellons sympoms going nuts
Generally speaking, the more severe the induced Herxheimer, the more probability of wellness - which is not to say that one who has a very light Herxheimer may not also get well.[/size][/color]
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Post by ppy18 on Jun 6, 2005 11:15:43 GMT -5
i have been on and of antibiotics several times in the 5 months but have not experienced any of the side affects described above. thanks for the info patti and anthill. i am scheduled for an appointment next monday with ginger savely in austin, texas. i know she is considered on of the best but i am somewhat nervous about the situation. can't seem to shake an impending sense of doom. i am still fairly new to all of this and at times feel extremely overwhelmed . are either of you familiar with gingers methods of treatment? driving from georgia and would feel better knowing a little about what to expect. thanks, p py
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Post by Lisa on Jun 6, 2005 20:39:30 GMT -5
I just saw her today for my first appointment. You will feel very comfortable with them. Both Ginger and her nurse are very down to earth, understanding and caring women. There is nothing you can say that they probably haven't already heard. All of the appointments before me today were Morgellons patients. She will ask you questions to get to know your situation and since I have Lyme, she gave me a packet they've put together with tons of information on the disease. She prescribed two meds that I've never tried before and said that others have had a decrease of symptoms with it. Just having someone in the medical field that's on our side is a breath of fresh air. You can talk about anything with her. Just remember... whatever this Morg. stuff is hasn't been identified yet, so it's a joint effort of sharing information and what works for one, may not work for others.
We need the "powers that be" to get their butts in gear and fund some research into this! How many more is it going to take for them to take this seriously?
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Post by david J on Aug 7, 2005 2:09:37 GMT -5
Ya know, having any disease that no one accepts or understands is alot like "the pioneer takes the arrow" theory. If you have any disease that Dr.'s don't know about or understand, why blame them? They only know what they are taught or what they learn. Instead of taking an attitude about these Dr's attitude, rise above their level (regardless of their license to practice) and share with them the "real" information. This may have more merit by sharing the information from another licensed physician, or equal. Any person under treatment for any illness should have a primary care physician. This individual should understand you and your illness, or find one who does!
It is very easy to get man, in pain with very little understanding from the "mainstream" wellness doctors, of which is somewhat of an oxy moron. Meaning why would any Doctor want you to stay well? Many don't get paid if your well now do they?
The mold idea, the crawling bug theory, and other persons in this grave physical grief should always be the pioneer.
Just remember that everyone is fighting some kind of battle in their minds. And anyone suffering always wants the attention to "get well soon". But what if you are not going to get better soon?
Killing yourself is the ultimate selfish act. And to mention a gun next time you show up for an Emergency Room visit, I pray that you "don't leave home with it".
Following the advice of all these folks can be harmful to your health.
Anyone ready for eighteen holes of golf.
MY Two Cents
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Post by Administration on Aug 7, 2005 20:39:53 GMT -5
Who's advice would he be best to follow? All the Doctors who tell him he is crazy because he has a disease they don't know or care about? Their idea is to lock him up so they don't have to deal with him. How many Doctors do you think we have all tried to talk to patiently? Gee, do you think we havent tried that a million times with a million Doctors already? Don't you get it? They dont care.. they dont want to know.. and the ones who do care get scrutinized by their own collegues. People are dying and killing themselves over this mess.. all because of Doctors who dont listen. Women have had their children taken away from them, people have been locked up in a nuthouse.. all because they caught a disease that is not in a Doctors text books? To be a Doctor, the desire to be one, I would assume there would be a desire to save lives and a natural curiosity to study the unknown. Why in the world is that not taking place? Has life come to the point where a Doctor is only interested in a patient if its something that can be diagnosed in that 7.5 minutes allowed by ones insurance company? Thankfully I do have a family Dr who listens to me.. took an act of God to convince him of anything and even now he is scared to death to get involved with this Lyme controversy. He should have the right to study this without the abuse or accusations from other Doctors. None of this makes any sense and in the end its always the patient who suffers and frankly, Ive seen enough deaths over this mess. Its time we unite and fight back.. we have our rights as well. These people have been abused by the medical system in the worst ways possible.. and this is what it comes down to.. either stand up and fight or die... I tell them to stand up and fight because its better then the alternative. You want to spend your days and nights talking them out of suicide, be my guest. And good luck with that, at least I make them want to survive this mess!
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Post by TonyM on Aug 8, 2005 0:40:07 GMT -5
Travis,
I have to say that they are right to the letter. I have contemplated suicide God knows how many times over this. It's not worth it, and you have to understand and realize that there will be an answer, and hopefully soon. Suicide isn't the answer. I try my best to remember to pray each and every day. I don't know what else to say, and am depressed myself rite now, Again!!!!
God Bless, and Good Luck!!! -TonyM
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Post by kranny2 on Aug 8, 2005 3:42:29 GMT -5
WE ALL HEAR YOU, TRAVIS! I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and my 21 yr-old-son was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia, although he may have Morgellons. I am sending his doctor information about the disease and suggesting he test for borrelia but I'm sure he'll just write me off as crazy. The morning before he was to go to the psychiatrist for the first time, he disappeared with no money or anything for four days when the temperature was over 100 degrees every day. I had prepared myself for the worst when he showed at one of his brother's houses, ironically on Sunday AM while four different churches were praying for him (and we don't even attend church). I also have a BA in psychology and was a trial lawyer for many years. I "went crazy", committed a felony, and lost my license for five years. I also have no money nor insurance. My family, especially my mother, have been helping me, too. Yes, I feel worthless and a burden and considered suicide. But there are people who would feel some sort of sense of failure or guilt if I killed myself and I cannot do that to them. A friend recently told me about a coworker who had sores on her arms that looked like mine. I went to see her after her shift, selfishly hoping she knew something that I didn't. She knew nothing and had been misdiagnosed with scabies. She had every classic symptom of Morgellons. I explained it all to her as simply and in as non-frightening way as possible. I hooked her up with a local Dr. willing to follow Dr. Harvey (and later, Ginger Savely's) protocol. She will likely begin to improve. Perhaps getting others with Morgellons help is one of the reasons I have this so severely and for so long. I, too, believe in karma and other lifetimes. We are meant to learn something from this as it certainly is a life changing event. I am determined to beat this disease and become healthy, happy and self-supporting again. I think the people telling you to get mad really mean DETERMINED to get well in spite of arrogant idiots who lamely call themselves professionals. On the subject of Morgellons, we ARE the specialists. Consider us as your family and your source of medical information. Promise yourself and us that suicide or any other kind of violence is just not an option. You do not need a gun to beat Morgellons! We understand your feelings and love you as a part of the Morgellons family. My prayers and any extra energy I can muster will be sent your way. May the God of many names be with you always.
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Post by Administration on Aug 8, 2005 16:46:42 GMT -5
Perfect post Kranny and Tony.. I don't know any of us who havent thought about suicide thru this mess. And yes, we all have a right to be enraged over what this has done to our lives and our family's lives. The abuse some of us have endured truely brings me to tears. But this is exactly why we are here Travis.. to unite. To have each other to lean on.. to know you arent alone in this mess.. to know that out here in the cyber world there really are people who care and understand. I felt like you did so long ago, the kind people in my life reached out to me and picked me up when I was down and they still do. I know its hard.. sometimes I still feel like ending things. Seems like we just cant buy a break sometimes. But we cant give up... we have to let them know we exist, this is happening and we arent going away.. we will stand and fight for our rights at any cost. We will get even Travis.. we will prove all this is happening, get better, and throw it right in their faces. Kranny is right.. we must remain determined to beat this. The answer will come and each one of us will get our lives back. Nothing may ever be the same, but we will all be better people for having to go thru this. And please, if ever you feel this way, any of you, please write to one of us and talk. There is nothing wrong or nothing weak about needing someone to talk to. This has been a hell of a ride, and the fact the we made it this far is a miracle. So just hang on.. and when you think you cant hang on anymore reach out and someone will grab you and drag you along so you dont sink.. I promise.
Kerry
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Post by Desperate on Aug 12, 2005 22:07:15 GMT -5
After reading Travis' heart-wrenching ordeal, I feel even more depressed. When I finally realized that the spider web feelings were not a severe allergic reaction and that the thilngs cascading from my head and entering my nose with every breath, I went to an emergency room. I described the feelings and told them, as I had been doing with my primary care physician, about the sores that had recently started to appear, flu feelings, shakey vision, etc.. One doctor asked me to wait. I did and he had the guards restrain me, take my belongings and clothes and put me in an observation room for about six hours. During that time, I was interrogated, not interviewed. Among other things, I was asked if I wanted to hurt myself or others. If I had problems dealing with anyone, If my husband was abusing or beating me, if I was causing the sores on my body and a host of other rediculous questions Even after suffering those indignities, they didn't do a blood, urine or any other test. They called my husband and told him to come and get me. I told him absolutely not, as they made the mistake and I was not going to have them put "patient was picked up by her husband" or some such entry which to me could conceivably bail them out when I am well enough to sue them. While I am not pleased to hear that others have contemplated suicide, I am comforted with the knowledge that others find this blight as unbearable as I do. As I am sitting here drinking my gin and tonic, I feel that hope is alive, but just barely. By the way gin and tonic happens to be the only thing that keeps me sane and I know that drinking isn't good. Before I was afflicted, I had fewer than 12 drinks per year, now it's about 6 per day. When I start feeling the nasties, the drink actually causes them to subside. I am looking forward to never having a drink again. Tomorrow I will start the herbal remedies I have read about. Sorry for the pity party, I just needed to be heard I thank God for the support everyone is giving to fellow sufferers and I thank God for you.
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Post by jlilac999 on Jun 15, 2006 11:57:57 GMT -5
Travis, thanks for your bravery, and I'm sorry for the dismissiveness of the doctor, our common plight. Seems doctors' egos precede any semblance of intelligence. I went to the AMA's website and the first thing on the AMA's agenda is curbing lawsuit-awarded monies. I responded to it, as perhaps should others, stating that monies awarded can't be big enough considering the medical arena's negligence. Hang in there. This won't last forever.
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Post by jwf on Jun 15, 2006 22:30:51 GMT -5
Hi jlilac, Travis Wilson's life ended just weeks ago, probably from an accidental overdose of medicine. He suffered form chronic Lyme for many years and more recently from Morgellons. He was a very brave young man who faced an unknowing and at times uncaring medical system. He was also fortunate to have extraordinary help, and some friends here, toward the end of his life. tinyurl.com/lvg2k Blue Skies.............John
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Post by ebgbgms on Jun 18, 2006 3:19:39 GMT -5
Dear John, Thank You for replying to jlalac999, I saw the post the other day and could tell that it was not realized that Trav has past on. It was so sad to me I just left the computer. Thank You for not getting up and the beautiful reply you made. God rest his soul. Always, ebgb
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Post by Administration on Jun 20, 2006 20:43:15 GMT -5
Ditto Glenda... Thank you John.. I read it too and couldnt bring myself to answer either... I turned it off too and went to bed to lay there depressed.. It still hits so hard.. Im thinking many of us maybe did this exact same thing... Its still just a bit too hard to talk about for many of us... Kerry
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