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Post by kammy on Apr 13, 2009 17:34:08 GMT -5
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Post by bannanny on Apr 13, 2009 21:16:45 GMT -5
Okeedokee kammy... I think it's time for me to tell you a little about myself. I'm not a mystery inside a mystery sweetie... nor do I feel I'm any more of an interesting "specimen" than anyone else is who has morgellons. I've belonged to this board for 5+ yrs. now... and believe me, all us morgies (on this board anyway) pretty much have the same symptoms.
I'm certainly not limited to only exuding the gel from my hands and feet either. That's just been my latest symptom. It's been going on for about 6-8 months now off and on. What comes outta my hands and feet is clear yes, but I also experience the amber goo, along with some yellowish and greenish grey goo. Then there's the black goo that hardens into more of a paste or even a plastic type substance. But to me, the goo is goo... whether it reacts to air or whatever it comes into contact with and changes color or not. There are other people who will tell you they have clear goo too... not just me ok?
Morgs started in my hair, but it's become systemic thruout my body over these past 5+ yrs... just like it's happened with other morgies. I expel the fibers, I have the crawling, I have the trails and track lines under my skin. I have plenty of brain fog, joint and muscle cramping and the biting sting, which to me is more of an electrical sensation. My environment is completely contaminated too. I see the bright flashes of light and alot of other sparks and such as well.
I've been studying this thing for over 5 yrs. wanting desperately to find some answers too. Myself and others here on the board have compared many a pic that have been identical to one anothers. The only thing I don't have are lesions... also the same thing other morgies will tell you. Not everyone with morgs has lesions. I have the small red and white "bumps" but no open lesions. Whether there's 2 different strains of this, I dunno. But it seems to me that it's a strong possibility. Some have lesions while others don't... it's something most anyone here will attest to.
Anyway, I guess it bothered me a little that you didn't quite know how I was fitting in here. I hope I don't sound like I'm angry about the way you were seeing my particular situation, cuz I'm not at all. I appreciate all the research and hard work you're doing. I just want you to be clear about what you're questioning that pertains to me. Especially since it's something you seem to be mystified by when there's no reason for you to be. I'm the same as everyone else who has this, generally speaking anyway.
Granted we all have subtle differences from one another, which I think has to do with the different environments we live in. It more than likely has to do with our different genetic make-ups too. But I'm just another morgie like everyone else... I just felt I needed to fill you in on that more than I guess I have. I guess I've only been talkin about the gel for the most part tho, so I can see how you were seeing it the way you were. My bad!
What symptoms do you have kammy? I guess we all know each other more by our symptoms and what we share and don't share than anything else these days. Is there anything any of us could help you with now, since you've been trying to help the entire morg community in itself with all this research you do day in and day out? Maybe we can return the favor if there's anything you're in need of to remedy any of your symptoms. We're all one big family here, just tryin to help each other out in any way that we can... I want you to know you're included in that ok?
I'll be happy to send you some goo... I have some in a plastic bag already, but I don't have a petri dish to put any in. So if you'd like some in a baggie, just let me know where to send it and it's all yours!
hugs ~~ bannanny
P.S. Thanks for the antibiotic info Jeany... I'll be asking my doc about it!
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Post by kammy on Apr 14, 2009 3:47:33 GMT -5
Thanks, K. -
We're going to wait and see if Bannanny gets better with the new antibiotics... and if she doesn't - we'll try to figure it out.
Banny - They should help with your Lyme's disease too.
I've had very little medicine throughout all of my sickness. It's been hard to do anything, that's the reason I've been working so hard. Not just for the community - I feel like I'm dying here.
At least now I know what it is and that takes away a lot of the fear. My doctor dismissed me last month - told me to get another doctor, refused to even run a single test, that I was 'DOP'... I still haven't found one, but, I will.
Love to everyone - K
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Post by stevefrey on Apr 14, 2009 4:27:52 GMT -5
About the chloracne... how would that relate to those of us who don't have lesions? I often wonder if there are 2 different strains of morgellons. Those with lesions and those without... those without seem to have more hair problems and electrical sensations. I dunno, but I do know whenever something comes up that has to do with lesions, I'm not able to relate to it at all. What do I think about all of this? Well, I can't help but think it's the gel that's responsible for producing alot of what we experience. I think it's the crux of morgellons. I believe the "bubbles" we see are made up of the actual gel itself. A larger gel bubble will explode (so to speak) into many smaller bubbles which then begin to connect, resulting in a connect the dots type of networking. I think this networking then has the capability to permeate anything. I believe the gel can take on many different forms too. It can crystallize into pod forms and it can replicate and self assemble. I also believe the gel itself produces "energy particles." As the particles begin to group together via quorum sensing into their individual groups, the gel will seal them into a segmented tube form. I think the different colored segments incubate in this tube as they develop into the different colored fibers we see. Once developed, the gel releases the tube and each segment of fibers begins to unwind. I also think this gel will elongate, resulting in long transparent web-like strands which hold incredible adhesive properties... which is another form of networking that takes place outside of the body to continue its journey in the environment. Anyway, I figure the gel probably uses whatever we have in our own DNA and goes from there... it could very well be the "magnet" that's pulling everything into our bodies from our environments too. If so, the fact that we're all in our own individual and different types of environments would give cause as to why we show certain differences from one another too. I've been thinking the fungal aspect of this could very well be fusarium. Why? Becuz it comes up all too often, plus I had my house tested for mold and it was one of the more toxic of molds found. I think fusarium is probably a common toxic mold in most peoples homes as well. I've also given chaetomium alot of time on research and still think it could be involved (in my case anyway.) It was also one of the more toxic molds found in my home along with stachybotrys and asperguillis. I think morgs reacts with whatever a person comes into contact with once they've become infected by it. People live their lives in many similar ways, which would account for some of our common symptoms... it's reacting with the things we're all exposed to in everyday life. The differences we have from one another come into play becuz our environments are different. Does that make any sense at all? love ya's ~~ bannanny Bannanny, Your description here is so much like that of a glass sponge and also trichoplax adhearens especially this line; I also think this gel will elongate, resulting in long transparent web-like strands which hold incredible adhesive properties...trichoplax adhearens acquired the name adhearens because they attach to things like glue. take trichoplax and combine it with the trait that I contend these organisms have, that being the ability to copy whatever they come in contact with, and you have what you are describing. www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/indexmag.html?http://www.microscopy-uk.org.uk/mag/artoct98/tricho.html
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Post by kammy on Apr 14, 2009 13:32:08 GMT -5
HOW TO GO ABOUT THIS...? Our disease has not been able to be 'seen' by our doctors. That is what the problem is! We have given you ways to show them what is happening. Grow it in a dish, have your doctor send it to the lab, or send your Petri Dish to an independant lab if your doctor won't. Take the test results from the independant lab to your doctor or a new doctor. Even easier - You can take a drop of fresh blood from a producing lesion and put it in-between two slides and visibly see these 'seeds/specks' with your naked eye! Find a doctor that has a microscope in their office, ask them to look at it! I believe, without doing the test that we should be able to also see these 'seeds' in the lining of our mouths? You should be able to scrape the inside of your mouth and let this be seen? The next time someone has their microscope out - do this test, please?
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Post by kammy on Apr 14, 2009 13:45:50 GMT -5
My ears are producing 'scab-like' areas, I think from taking the "DE" and detoxing. These 'scabs' are a concentrated area that is the eco-center of production of the 'seeds' that has bored down into the skin (kinda' like what the Truspore diagram represented) what I call - 'the producers'... I haven't picked at this area to create these 'scabs'. They aren't really 'scabs'... like in the traditional sense. These are eruptions popping up from detoxing. These areas are almost impossible to get rid of, also! The visible 'scab' might go away and not be seen, but, it's there under the skin at all times. This is on the bottom of my left ear lobe - a place that 'normally' isn't even 'involved', separate from the troubled area - the 'backbone' that has grown on the pinna part of my ear. I picked at one two days ago... and it bled for a minute, so I grabbed a clean slide and put the blood on it - to see what it looked like under the microscope. I can see these 'seeds' with my naked eye... this is what I'm talking about... if you have an 'active' and producing lesion, you and your doctor should be able to see these, too. 4/12/09 Blood from "Scab" on L Ear @100x my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Other/04_12_2.JPEG [/img] This one I call, "ET Phone Home": my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Other/04_12_3.JPEG[/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Other/04_12_6.JPEG[/img][/CENTER]
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Post by kammy on Apr 14, 2009 14:35:13 GMT -5
Here's what I think. I could be 'off'...?
I think that we're seeing 'masqueraders'... we're seeing things that look like Isospora belli, and 'Crypto' and cyanobacteria... as examples - HOWEVER... these may or may not be - we don't know yet?
What I think is that we're seeing representations of these 'things' by most or some of their DNA being present or modified? That if a doctor ran a test for I. belli - it would come up negative, Crypto - negative, cyanobacteria - ??... etc.
That the tools that our doctors are using - blood, urine, stool, lab tests... might not pick this up because the 'programmed' information that identifies 'Crypto', 'I. belli', etc. that's in their pathology computer data banks that says - 'This is a hit!'... contains different DNA coding information than what is inside of us!? Because what's inside of us has been modified!
You know the saying, "a picture is worth a thousand words"? Well, I'm saying that if you take them in your blood and show them these "BB's"/'seeds/'fibers' as a PART of your blood... and they ignore this - then ask them to write this on your chart in front of you and see what they do!
If they choose to ignore you - Ask them to write down in your presence and you want a copy of your Medical Records upon leaving the office - 'patient brought in sample of their blood with foreign-looking object(s) in for examination and I chose to ignore this'.
You'll get your quorum sensing antibiotic, I bet? Just to get rid of you! lol
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Post by kammy on Apr 14, 2009 14:51:02 GMT -5
For those who are in the same position as myself - with little or no medical help. Maybe, we should be looking for doctors who specialize in Lyme's Disease! They would be the closest to understanding this? Does this doctor have a specialty name... what's your doctor's field?
That's brilliant, Jeany! Why didn't I think of that?
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Post by kammy on Apr 14, 2009 15:56:13 GMT -5
Another Example, Mouth Skin Cells: This is just as I thought. This is basic Microbiology 101, all doctors should be familiar with this, you can take the inside scraping of the skin cells inside your mouth and see a lot of different things that can be going on in the human body. Realizing that even my house dust is contaminated, using a slide that's already been used, or using anything in my environment to take the scraping with - could be contaminated and corrupt the experiment. So, what I did was - I have a brand new box of individually separated slides, with sterile paper, closed up, and I barely touched one edge which is not photographed and used the slide itself as my scraper. I immediately put another brand new slide over it, moved the saliva and skin cells around to get them evenly dispersed on the slide using the other slide. This makes the chances of anything in the air getting in there at zero, or any tool used to contaminate at zero. [/img] You can see the 'seeds' and fibers both in this one: my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Other/04_14_16.JPEG[/img][/CENTER]
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Post by kammy on Apr 14, 2009 16:03:19 GMT -5
Another Example: Ezecma If you have an area of 'biofilm' build-up that you believe to be the Morgellons biofilm and has been diagnosed as 'ezecma' - which in my opinion, is a catch-all name for a disease that doctors don't know what it is and don't care to look. This is from a speck of ezecma in my right ear: [/img] This looks like the 'crystal' formations: my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Other/04_14_1.JPEG[/img][/CENTER]
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Post by kammy on Apr 14, 2009 16:32:33 GMT -5
I'm afraid to do a vaginal swab! And, guys... wonder what's growing on your p***ses, and what about the semen? Let us guess?
The sexual transmission of this disease hasn't even been approached yet!
And, it's in our mouths! It's probably on our tongues too!... Is this a kissing disease, too?
HELLO?
(Kammy's advice: Buy stock in condom companies... NOW!)
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Post by bannanny on Apr 14, 2009 23:49:57 GMT -5
Great tips for what to show docs kammy... and how to put it to 'em too. I have a doc who is yet another new one on my HMO list who doesn't really even wanna discuss the word morgellons. The way I see it is I just have to try to get him to prescribe what I feel I need and see if he will or won't. That's pretty much where I'm at with mine. What you said about "masqueradors" is what I've been sayin for quite a while now too. I think the gel has the capabilities to take on different forms. It mimics too, thus giving it pretty much an invisibility not only to lab tests, but also to our immune systems. I also think it uses our DNA and goes with modifying that along it's journies thru our body too. To me it's a sneaky, slimy, imposter. I've even thought about asking the doc to get me in an MRI kind of machine and inject my entire body with a dye just to see if it would show this thing. I think it adjusts and can blend in as fast as a chameleon can to just about anything tho. That's interesting stuff you said there Steve. When you put things like that, I can understand you too! Did you watch the video toni posted on the slime? I look at morgellons to be the same kind of "shape shifter" as that thing is. I went to your link and they said alot of things that seemed familiar to me... [glow=red,2,300]The extraordinary shapes which it can assume are apparently accounted for my the middle layer of "fibrous" cells which seem to provide both a degree of support and also allow for its radical alterations in form. [/glow] [glow=red,2,300]Another fascinating aspect of this creature is its ability to regenerate.[/glow] [glow=red,2,300]Finally, Trichoplax is an exciting organism to observe, because it has an odd set of both structural and behavioral characteristics. When it is "strung out", one can observe protoplasmic streaming in the "bridges" between the main masses. There are strange "folds" which develop along the edges and the dorsal surface of creature whose function is largely unknown. Along the edges of the organism are very distinct "shiny spheres". To observe the amoeboid movement and, at the same time, see the surface covered with flagella is a remarkable phenomenon. Trichoplax is truly one of nature's oddities. [/glow] Then I looked for pix of the stuff and found this one. These must be the "shiny spheres" that are distinct along the edges of Trichoplax right? Now look at the same "shiny spheres" I see in alot of my samples that I've always referred to as "particles" inside of tubes... I removed this from my hand if I remember right... This was a gel blob with tubes growing out of it I also got out of my hand... This one felt like rubber when I pulled it outta my head... So I can definitely see some similarities especially in regards to the "shiny spheres." I gotta say, I've never found anything or seen anything that actually showed or even talked about "shiny spheres" before either. In morgs, I think the gel (whatever it is) creates the particles and tubes. So if the spheres are distinct with the Trichoplex, that means something to me cuz I see them in my pix too... at least they look the same to me anyway. What environments could your sponge live in Steve? We're all experiencing something that can thrive in us and also in our environments, no matter what that environment might be... cuz morgs is out there. It's everywhere... course that's just how I'm seein it. hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by kammy on Apr 16, 2009 19:40:29 GMT -5
Is Morgellons Nanotechnology? I was just researching and found this AGAIN... and thought I'd document it out here before I moved on... this is something we can come back to later. The 'black specks' coming from our bodies, which I keep stressing - that if we know the chemical composition of - we will be able to say - 'Yes! Morgellons is nanotechnology!' Maybe we could get one of our scientists to preform an analysis to compare what is known in nanotechnology, with what is coming from some of our bodies? Are these empty carbon cells that appear in my photographs? ?? (Photo below.) We don't know yet, we haven't had a scientist in this field to see or identify what I am describing as "might be" an empty carbon cell using 'sheet' technology to create the initial Morgellons 'spider web' fiber network. An Empty Carbon Cell?... @ 450x, L Ear Debris, @ approx. 4 weeks growth my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/3 26 09 Left Ear Exp 2 Master/03_26_19 L Ear 450x Exp 2 - 2 28.JPEG [/img][/center] This 'sheet' method of growth is related to what is known as the "Buckeyball" technology in nanoscience, another name for buckeyball is Fullerene. To clarify what I just said: the 'buckeyball' (black speck?) starts the creation of the 'sheet' of fiber network as seen in Baraka's video. It appears in its infancy inside the human body at a much slower rate than in Baraka's video, his video is on fast forward. It is replicating itself (reproducing) in Baraka's video into more 'balls'. From my microscopic photography in real time, slowed down - in its infancy - we can see that this 'ball' is initially created from an empty carbon cell?. This process is repeated over and over in its 'lifecycle'. my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/3 26 09 Left Ear Exp 2 Master/03_27_15 L Ear 100x Exp 2 - 2 28.JPEG [/img] This is what the above 'empty carbon cells'? turns into: my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/3 29 09 L Ear Exp 2/03_29_14 100x.JPEG[/img][/center] I can only speculate how much time has passed in Baraka's video vs. real time. What you see happen in 2 seconds with his method - could take days or weeks to occur inside the human body? Here is a web-site that shows the chemical diagram and compounds of fullerene or "Buckeyballs", we need to know if any of the compounds of our 'black sphere specks' resemble the compounds of Fullerene?PCBM Products (Organic Based Solar Cell) Price - SES ResearchChemical name [6,6]-Phenyl C61 butyric acid methyl ester 1-[3-(methoxycarbonyl)propyl]-1-phenyl-[6.6]C61 3'H-cyclopropa[1,9][5,6]fullerene-C60-Ih-3'-butanoic acid 3'-phenyl methyl ester
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Post by kammy on Apr 19, 2009 14:53:41 GMT -5
"The Ear Connection 1" Some of us have known for a while that there is something special about the human ears and certain types of Morgellons. I was thinking since mine started in my head/scalp - and gravity sends the particles down and ears are sticking out... that naturally, they are one of the first places to become 'involved' from the head. With most people that have theirs start in the scalp - there is 'raining' of debris, whether you're aware of it or - mine was very evident - and in this stage - where ever these particles landed on my body - this created another lesion. And, then after 6 months or so, for me - this debris landing on my body in other places does NOT cause a lesion to occur. I also read somewhere that if you pinch your earlobes and you feel 'lumps' inside of them - that this indicative of some sort of Morgie activity occurring in the ear area. At one time, I had small 'lumps' in my earlobes, but I don't now. My left ear is still quite 'involved'... and this earlobe is a little thicker than the right one. These 'balls'/'eggs'/'specks' that feel like they could be an 'egg', is what I've grown in my Petri Dishes... they are the 'things' we're seeing that are in my videos and photographs - these LARGER 'eggs'/'seeds' are - what I call - "The Mother Satellites". Here's a photo of what you might be feeling under your skin, these 'seeds' are everywhere in our bodies: (well... maybe not for those of you who have your 'seed production' under control?) Left ear debris 3/18/09 - shot in petri dish, cultured 3/1/09 600x w Human Hair my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/3 18 09 Left Ear 2/03_19_35.JPEG [/img][/center] QUESTION?: I'm not sure about people that don't have the 'ear involvement' initially? Does the Morgellons pathogens end up migrating to the ears from other lesion areas?
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Post by kammy on Apr 19, 2009 16:54:48 GMT -5
MORGELLONS IS CENTERED AROUND... ARTHROBOTRYS I was posting some microscopic photos the other night and Sarothra has identified what I'm calling the "pure" or "raw" Morgellons pathogen as arthrobotrys. This is the growth in the Petri Dish that is producing the 'fibers' and 'specks/seeds'! This is a quote from the "Microscopic Photos of the Biofilm" thread: EVERYTHING in the dish - gets into, next to, is talking to, etc. - this 'hairy, cotton-like' growth that I just explained in above titled post - "Morgellons Pathogen Isolated in the Dish". I can show you photo after photo of the quorum sensing involving the main Morgellons pathogen and the other parts. These are my photos to compare the above with. As you can see, this is an exact photo match?: [/img] my-stuff-dot-com.com/My Stuff/Personal/Morgellons/My Photos/Posted/Lymebusters/3 29 09 L Ear/03_29_15 450x.JPEG[/img][/center] We need to look at arthrobotrys and see what it is, and how it functions, and how does this relate to our disease, etc.?CONGRATULATIONS SAROTHRA!! Hopefully, one more piece of the puzzle solved! Thank you for your hard work and efforts!
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Post by kammy on Apr 20, 2009 13:55:47 GMT -5
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Post by bannanny on Apr 20, 2009 16:55:09 GMT -5
It looks like you do have an exact match there kammy. I've never heard of arthrobotrys before. Is it in the same family as stachybotrys? Is it in the mold/fungus family? I gotta say, the tiny black dots that I see in front of my eyes are usually connected together, just like your photo shows. In my first year of morgellons, those goldish brown balls in your first video were the first things I ever noticed under a scope that I knew had something to do with what I was experiencing. I didn't have a computer scope then, but the scope I did have went to 1000X and I could see alot more on it than I can with the Intel scope I have now. But it finally broke down... I'd gotten it from a yard sale and it wasn't in the greatest of shape then. I must've been right about those "balls" tho, yet the few doctors and such I brought the samples to for viewing had no idea what they were... sounds familiar of course! Some of the slides in your first video also resemble what grew on my scope base the first time (after the gel landed there from out of my finger.) Here's another view of it at 10X... In your second video, I also see a resemblence (again) to the second growth that took place on my scope base after the first growth above had lifted (seen below)... After this second growth that took place on my scope base finally lifted just the other day... now there are more than the one initial "gel bubbles" left on it that remain permeated into the base. They resemble the same "balls" or "bubbles" you show in your second video. I have no doubt in my mind the growth is going to repeat itself again for a third time. I've just sent it to a morgellons researcher to study... You've got me wondering now if morgellons could be a combination of molds that were mixed into this gel (whatever this gel might be) thus creating morgellons? I'm certain the gel takes on the form of a bubble as well as other forms it's capable of taking on. That was proven when it formed into one on my scope base and began to produce all that it's produced on it. It could very well be the gel is a nano machine of sorts that sucks mold/fungus that's in our environments into our bodies somehow? I also saw a resemblence to chaetomium in your videos, which I've had a feeling has something to do with morgs for the past 4 years. It's also in the mold family and one of the molds that was found in my home, along with stachybotrys, asperguillis and fusarium to name a few of the more toxic molds. Here's a few pics of chaetomium for you to compare to as well... It sure looks like we could be getting somewhere with all of the resemblences we're seeing here kammy. You sure do some good work girl! Let's hope it all pays off sooner than later eh? hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by massena on Apr 20, 2009 17:00:01 GMT -5
Kammy, I have the same thing that comes from my nose. I call them bubbles/eggs and you say seeds..........what ever they are ..I think my photo looks like yours??? I don't have lesions but I have lots of goo from my nose to my feet and it's clear. And I have dancing hair . I have lots of photos of these bubble/eggs/seeds looking things because that's what I seen the most of. Be glad to share them with you . massena
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Post by kammy on Apr 20, 2009 23:54:47 GMT -5
Hi Banny, I've missed you, sweetie! xxx ooo
Banny - I'm paying VERY, VERY close attention to your chaetomium, I need to look at the culture in the dish to compare. Yes, that was the 'exploding cotton sphere' in the videos?
I'm over on MDR with the other guys lately and they're a smart bunch, too. There's 3 fungus 'experts' over there, probably more? We're starting an "AO" thread and will be dissecting Arthrobotrys oligospora in the next few days.
Thank you, Massena for use of your photograph to show how the 'seed/eggs' and fiber when connected have a protective coating - as shown in your photo. I think this is an important piece of information, that Toni pointed out to me - thank you, Toni for being so observant...
I'll post over here too what conclusions we come to over there, I'm cross-posting on both sites - especially, the important information for those of you that aren't over there.
I'm just not sure yet about the 'clear' biofilm, 'goo'... I'm seeing two biofilms in my photographs and in my dish... maybe, three? It may take getting a sample in a Petri Dish with agar, and mailing it to me, or you shooting it with your microscope and posting photos - from someone who is producing the clear 'goo' to see what the difference is? I don't think I am producing a clear goo, I think mine is yellow? My lesion is my ear - so, it's hard to tell because I can't see it, I've been told it is yellow. (And, it produces a white powder, too.)
We all seem to have the 'black/brown specks, seeds' in common though? You're going to be fascinated at how this Arthrobotrys oligospora works and what's happening! From what little I've read and been told - it's fascinating, of course, we're trying to figure out how to "kill" it!! lol... stay tuned... (of course, the new antibiotics should kill this fungus, too.) However, we're finding something that antibiotics, antifungals, and antiparasitics will not kill... we're not sure yet. So, this could be the key to ridding all the pathogens.
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Post by kammy on Apr 21, 2009 0:00:12 GMT -5
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