monika
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Post by monika on Apr 4, 2010 4:32:17 GMT -5
My Apologies if this news is old hat to the rest of you, I came across this today read the article here www.prweb.com/releases/2010/03/prweb3804804.htmSo after reading the article I check out Dr Staninger's website "The Healing Garden". Are any of you familiar with the site? I'm wondering how new is all this. Dr. Staniger is got her own line of cure and a Protocol using Far infrared sauna (Anthill, was using something like this since back in the day!) At any rate she is selling her detox FIR products and Staninger Detox Protocol for around 65 bucks and the site claims 156 Morgellons sufferers have had complete recovery from using it. I'm not quite sure how to proceed after reading this, I am not sure where Dr. Staninger is coming from ....does this Dr. Staninger really know what the heck she is talking about or is she just some self proclaimed expert snake oil salesperson? Because I don't know about the rest of you all, but I've been burnt before, (ahem, Dr. George Schwartz) I don't want to waste any time investing any trust in any of Dr. Staninger's claims if she has the reputation of being flaky by her peers in the medical community, or doesn't have the credentials backing her up. Any of you care to give me some insight about her?
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Post by waldenflo on Apr 4, 2010 8:03:27 GMT -5
Wont name names here but I did buy a book for maybe $70, from an MD in the SW, supposedly a protocol for Morgs. It was a self-published, unedited, extremely poorly written attempt to make a buck off of us. This man is said to have helped many, but NOT with this book, for sure! I wuz burned too...it was NOT a professional publication!
Dr. Hildy is a PhD Environmental Toxicologist who's done extensive research & treatment of patients with Morg. She's earned some respect (it seems to me) from some pretty impressive people here. There's a TON of info on board (and on others) abt her work and Far InfaRed Sauna for detoxing, a crucial element. No personal experience, but google her and do a few board searches. Some very smart people have had some success with her, altho havent yet read of any any full remissions . Actually, I HAVE read of some, from diff. treatments, but not of this partic. protocol, yet. At this stage of my own illness (3 yrs.) I am suspicious, but ever hopeful, of any "cures." Good luck and do your homework...read up on those here who have worked with her... waldenflo
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Post by ANTHILL on Apr 4, 2010 12:34:52 GMT -5
My Apologies if this news is old hat to the rest of you, I came across this today read the article here www.prweb.com/releases/2010/03/prweb3804804.htmSo after reading the article I check out Dr Staninger's website "The Healing Garden". Are any of you familiar with the site? I'm wondering how new is all this. Dr. Staniger is got her own line of cure and a Protocol using Far infrared sauna (Anthill, was using something like this since back in the day!) At any rate she is selling her detox FIR products and Staninger Detox Protocol for around 65 bucks and the site claims 156 Morgellons sufferers have had complete recovery from using it. I'm not quite sure how to proceed after reading this, I am not sure where Dr. Staninger is coming from ....does this Dr. Staninger really know what the heck she is talking about or is she just some self proclaimed expert snake oil salesperson? Because I don't know about the rest of you all, but I've been burnt before, (ahem, Dr. George Schwartz) I don't want to waste any time investing any trust in any of Dr. Staninger's claims if she has the reputation of being flaky by her peers in the medical community, or doesn't have the credentials backing her up. Any of you care to give me some insight about her? Hi Monica infrared has been helpful through out this ordeal for me but I can't say it is a cure Not to denote Staninger because I don't know But--- Let's just say I get suspicious when I sign up to a face-book morgellons site and I get a request from her shortly after to be her face book friend and when you go to her wall its all about selling her products(face-book spam) and you can't even post to her wall and its like that with every website that I happen across that she has been on the Internet It's all about the products I know some folks think shes ducky and that's fine she may be more power to them if she is ---me I remain reserved This is my opinion and not that of Lymebusters as a whole
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Post by kmarie on Apr 4, 2010 13:30:29 GMT -5
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Post by lilsissy on Apr 4, 2010 15:19:01 GMT -5
I have followed Hildy and her work for a while and my honest opinion is she is intensely interesting in Morgellons and has done research but being human as the rest of us she needs money. I do believe the far infra red may cure Morgellons or at least hold it at bay . I question the 100 percent cure but think it is possible. Light can cure and kill at the same time though. All arrows on Morgellons (even in research I do that does not even recognize Morgellons) leads me to conclude Light therapy would be a treatment for Morgellons. It sets the poop . It puts in a different state but I question it being called a cure. When you think of the benefit of sunlight on pathogens you get the idea. I see Morgellons inside the body at first infestation as a liquid flowing state and certain wavebands solidify it . I do not believe it is a cure at this point. It changes the state of the branching internal gel to more of a wired state but does it render the infectious seeds inactive , I doubt that. I think Hildy's heart is in the right place . She went to school for this because she has an interest in this but she also went to school to be able to provide for herself and family . I think sometimes we expect only above human Hero's and even our hero's have needs. Not sure of anything and it is good to keep an eye on intentions but with a realistic expectation. Jen Light therapy dries out the gel in us . I think Morgellons is similar to this process geology.com/press-release/manganese-nodules-and-crusts/ so when you think of light being able to stop the process well yes but it also has a prion element to it and prions incinerate at 1500 degrees so it is doubtful to me that light will be a cure to our bio seed, it only sets it . I always remember reading a patent that explains the use of light to set D.N.A. transcription catalysts put into our food. Jen At first I was very against the use of light but see that it may be necessary to stop the inflammation that accompanies the process. I however do not think it is a cure but the person may think they are cured because it brings relief by setting the gel inside of us.
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Post by waldenflo on Apr 4, 2010 19:49:50 GMT -5
Just to clarify, I have NO reservations about anyone charging fees for validated treatment, based on what they figured out. That's why these people went to school for a zillion years...to support themselves and their families with their knowledge, and I am grateful for their work. I am not at ease however when products listed on some "endorsed" sites are avail. for 1/3 to 1/2 the $ compared to other sites... for the exact same product (those listed by name & made by other manufacturers i.e. FungaSoap and Edure 300... much cheaper on SchoolKids Healthcare.com than on a site supposedly endorsed by Dr. Hildy, and I say supposedly because anyone online can claim anything. Ive spent a fortune on this illness, so I am a cautious consumer. Show me some evidence, please or let me ask other "cured" patients about their outcome! waldenflo
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lamb
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Post by lamb on Apr 4, 2010 22:02:01 GMT -5
Dr. Staninger has done more for me in 45 days than any of the "theories" I have read anywhere else. She is a wonderfully smart and capable human being whose mindset leaves the rest of us wannabees in the dust! Not that there are not great intelligent minds at work on this site as well.. there are and the agrobacterium/pesticides/gmo's theories I truly believe are right on the money . I am all for her making money, her stuff works, her mind is faster than a jackrabbit, and she continues to crusade for us all with new products. I don't always understand her theories but she has improved my life tremendously and if she tells me something I do it, no questions asked. My son's migraines have disappeared , my dog is healthy and I can finally feel human again. I give her love and credit, she truly cares about her patients. If you find something that works, stop trying to denigrate it, especially when you are only guesstimating. I would go to the wall for Dr. Staninger and I am so grateful for her help. God Bless us all.
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Post by ANTHILL on Apr 5, 2010 11:01:18 GMT -5
That's excellent lamb! I'm glad Hildy was able to help you and yours Just goes to show ya' never can tell on the Internet You get help for morgellons where you can find it and that's not easy especially after you've spent all your money on snake oils and a parade of doctors and theres nothing left Hope you can see why one could be skeptical especially when you see a hard sell going on I don't begrudge someone making money off of our misery as long as their product works so many don't and are a sham If it is any consolation I have been able to boot up the herbal ingredients list to Hildy's con-cots on the Internet in the past and they are absolutely in line for use for skin conditions too bad I'm a bit skiddish about throwing good money after bad to try her products
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Post by friskers on Apr 5, 2010 13:03:37 GMT -5
thankyou also Lamb for speaking up. I would like to hear more from patients of hers . It helps us all to know whats working or not .
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Post by 2.99(plus~tax) on Apr 5, 2010 22:33:47 GMT -5
I am a patient of hers.
In the last 2 years I have followed her advice.
I am better, much better. Have gotten my life back again.
Re-opened my pet salon. Which is an extremely physical occupation. Took it one step further and started producing my own brand of organic liquid castile soap loaded with all the goodies that help skin conditions.
All of which I use exclusively in my salon and sell to my clients.
I have used the knowledge that hildy gave me and apply it to work all the time. All benificial.
So great to be back on my feet doing what I love to do again. 'Btw.....that far infared pad treatment rocks.
When I was 16 I was in a car accident. Took me 8 years of physical therapy to get my back in shape. Chronic pain......oooooh it was bad.
when I started on the infared pad.......took a couple of weeks, but I shyt you not.....it's gone.
I, personally think hildy is a wonderful lady whom I admire so much. She not only helped with the physical part of my illness, but tackled the mental part as well.
I don't think it would be a stretch to say that she helped me get my life back again. For that, she will always be an angel in my book.
Ali
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Post by waldenflo on Apr 5, 2010 22:56:47 GMT -5
Lamb and Ali, Its truy wonderful to hear directly from people who are treated with TLC and excellent care! Thanks for stepping up to the plate! I am thrilled for the progress you've both made. I trust you can understand why those of us not fortunate enough yet, to be able to work with her, would be cautions...burned so many times. Ive read her work and she's mighty impressive. I do believe she's an ace, and that it serves HER well, and all of us for that matter, for her patients to be able to share their good news. Many blessings, Flo
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monika
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Post by monika on Apr 5, 2010 23:07:57 GMT -5
Re: Dr ,Unlocks Mystery of Thank you all for your input on Dr. Staninger and her Light Therapy Protocol. I see another posted on this same topic (funny how our consciousness is linked isn't it?)
lilsissy, my goodness, I feel like you are right on about the effect of this light therapy on this substance. You said, "It sets the poop." Yes I feel that may exactly right. So even if Infrared therapy only sets it in dormant type state, that in itself is enough for me to order a kit right now! and I will continue to pray for the complete cure to come. If I could turn this thing down a notch or two would be a dream come true for me.
Lamb, thank you for your response on Dr. Staninger's validity. I don't assume that the fact she is charging for her effort and material means that she is automatically a snake oil salesman, but I'm sure you all can relate to the apprehensive feeling when someone claims they have a cure for us.
So OK, this may not be the holy grail to cure us from our scourge, but If it merely "sets" it to the point that I could function in my daily life and complete my schooling, that sounds great to me and 60 bucks is not too much to throw out there to try.
Anthill, Lamb, Waldenflo, Kmarie and a few others have shared their experience using the light therapy and other suggestions made by Dr. Staninger , and have reported that it helped relieve the symptoms of Morgellons ALOT. ALOT is enough for me. thank you all for responding, I think I will try this out as soon as i can get the money to. Bless you all ,
Monika
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Post by jj on Apr 9, 2010 9:38:01 GMT -5
I am a patient of hers. In the last 2 years I have followed her advice. I am better, much better. Have gotten my life back again. Re-opened my pet salon. Which is an extremely physical occupation. Took it one step further and started producing my own brand of organic liquid castile soap loaded with all the goodies that help skin conditions. All of which I use exclusively in my salon and sell to my clients. I have used the knowledge that hildy gave me and apply it to work all the time. All benificial. So great to be back on my feet doing what I love to do again. 'Btw.....that far infared pad treatment rocks. When I was 16 I was in a car accident. Took me 8 years of physical therapy to get my back in shape. Chronic pain......oooooh it was bad. when I started on the infared pad.......took a couple of weeks, but I shyt you not.....it's gone. I, personally think hildy is a wonderful lady whom I admire so much. She not only helped with the physical part of my illness, but tackled the mental part as well. I don't think it would be a stretch to say that she helped me get my life back again. For that, she will always be an angel in my book. Ali Don't know how I missed this Life I guess. Thanks for sharing this Ali. Great to hear it worked so well for you. I'm not surprised really. Chin up and keep keepin on. Love how you are applying yourself. Truely inspirational. JJ
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Post by waldenflo on Apr 9, 2010 19:49:03 GMT -5
Hi Monika, Just to clarify, I havent had any experience with infared or with light therapy YET, but I too am on a steep learning curve. There are impressive replies here, Thanks all; for sharing and yeah, let's all keep on keepin on! Flo
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Post by bessie on Apr 9, 2010 21:30:11 GMT -5
I've posted many times about my experience with Dr. Staninger's treatment approach. I'm currently closing in on 2 1/2 years of (almost) complete remission/recovery. What remains is hardly noticeable - and honestly, if I hadn't been full-blown with this I probably wouldn't even notice the tiny tickle here & there....I have not had a lesion since 2007....
DoraIsabel has also posted her recovery repeatedly....she's longer into it than I am....
Running on office equipped with lots of technology & staff, doing research, and paying rent in a high-priced zip code in LA is not free. Her "fees" are a fraction of any other doctor treating this condition....we all know the names...
Bessie
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lamb
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Post by lamb on Nov 22, 2010 23:56:22 GMT -5
Still minorly symptomatic but Soooooo much better! I am a bad patient, I don't always follow the rules! I know when I don't...bad....bad..bad. Full moons are tough and trying to keep the dog morg free is a full time job. Haven't chatted with dhs for a while but I plan to soon. Love that woman! FIR is helpful but not the full enchilada!
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Post by bannanny on Nov 23, 2010 10:44:14 GMT -5
Wow... seems everyone's contacting you for your opinion skiz!! But that's only becuz you do such good work my friend. I'd take it as a compliment if I were you!
Then again, when it comes to Dr. Hildy... she's been very disappointing to me lately. She said she'd send my "chip" back... but I haven't received it YET. I can't get her to talk to me about it either... so of course I'm wondering just what's up with her myself.
I'll have to see if her book's out yet too... the one she was gonna use my "chip" pics in. I told her she could... but she still wouldn't tell me what her opinion was on it. I'm starting to think I've been too easy... and way too easily swayed by her. But time will tell...
hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by ruth on Nov 23, 2010 13:25:08 GMT -5
i know that my infection is quantum dots. i can easily get them to show and blink by light and microscope. once you catch on, it becomes clear as to what is happening. there is also the possibility that i do not have what everyone else has???it appears the qd's are excited by far infrared light (and all light) i think that dr. staninger does not really know what is going on because if she did, she would be able to explain the nanoparticles in the infection, unless of course, that is her job to continue with the confusion. Please use this persistent URL to cite or link to this item: hdl.handle.net/2027.42/71285 ◀ bookmark this Title: Photoluminescence and far-infrared absorption in Si-doped self-organized InAs quantum dots Authors: Phillips, J. Kamath, K. Zhou, X. Chervela, N. Bhattacharya, P. Issue Date: 13-Oct-1997 Publisher: The American Institute of Physics Citation: Phillips, J.; Kamath, K.; Zhou, X.; Chervela, N.; Bhattacharya, P. (1997). "Photoluminescence and far-infrared absorption in Si-doped self-organized InAs quantum dots." Applied Physics Letters 71(15): 2079-2081. <http://hdl.handle.net/2027.42/71285> Abstract: We report far-infrared absorption in directly doped self-organized InAs quantum dots. Photoluminescence spectra demonstrate a blue shift in peak intensity for increasing doping in the quantum dots. Far-infrared absorption measurements using a Fourier transform infrared spectrometer show absorption in the range of 13–18 μm for quantum dots with Al0.15Ga0.85AsAl0.15Ga0.85As and GaAs as the barrier material. © 1997 American Institute of Physics. DOI: 10.1063/1.119347 Appears in Collections: Interdisciplinary and Peer-Reviewed Physics, Department of Files in This Item: File Description Size Format APPLAB-71-15-2079-1.pdf 62Kb Adobe PDF View/Open
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Post by bannanny on Nov 25, 2010 10:52:18 GMT -5
Just so you know... I emailed Dr. H again the other day. Here's her latest reply about my chip... Hi Robin, I have contacted the lab since you asked for the specimen numerous times. They told me they would look in their storage. I still to this day have not received the specimen back, etc. I will contact them again. And keep you posted. Dr. Hildy
PS. Even though you gave me permission to use your original photographs of your chip in my book, I never used the photographs. And do not plan too.They're gonna look in their storage for it? I told her the only stipulation I had when it was sent to the lab was that its return be guaranteed. Guess that didn't happen... and it doesn't look to me like I'm ever gonna get it back. I've emailed her again for the address and phone number for the lab. Maybe I can get them to respond myself! I have to wonder tho if the thing is even active now like it was when I got it out of my arm. Course I figure it probably is since it did everything it did do while trapped between tape!!!! I also know this mess doesn't just stop... it seems to produce on a continual basis (to me anyway.) Ah well... all I can do is keep trying. Now I wish I would've gotten a copyright or something on the thing before I ever let it go. hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by skizit on Nov 26, 2010 3:39:00 GMT -5
H Bannanny: I don't think you need the scope to have a copyright. All your pictures have an automatic copyright as soon as you make them. A piece of music or book or picture are yours the minute they are "finished." You can protect yourself by filing a copyright with the copyright office. It think each submission is $20 but its been a while since I filed anything.
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