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Post by ruth on Apr 15, 2010 20:11:13 GMT -5
www.mold-help.org/content/view/411/It is extremely important to know that the conversion of the yeast form to the fungal form of Candida is partially dependent upon biotin deficiency. Dr. Yamaguchi and colleagues have recently found that when biotin is added to the medium in high levels, it can prevent the conversion of the yeast form of Candida to its fungal form. They have also found that the fatty acid oleic acid seems to prevent this same conversion. This concept has been used very successfully in conjunction with the Lactobacillus acidophilus culture to treat Candida Albicans. Biotin is given orally (1,000 mcg. taken three to four times daily) along with two teaspoons of olive oil taken three times daily, as a source of oleic acid. This is done along with a higher than normal fiber diet, using oat bran fiber, to increase the absorptive surface area of the fecal material and to hasten the elimination of metabolic by-products. This may have to be continued for a period of one to six months, depending on the severity of the infection and the length of time that there has been a Candida problem. www.pnas.org/content/106/2/351.full
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Post by bannanny on Apr 15, 2010 20:38:13 GMT -5
Thanks for explaining that jeany bean! I understand now. From reading these last few posts here it made me think about how I loved Canola Oil... thought it was better for me than any other cooking oil out there. So I used it for a long time... don't anymore and sure won't again now that I've read all this about it. I also found a birds nest that had fallen and still had eggs in it (not long before I got morgs) and put it back where I thought it had come from... of course the mother never returned. I imagine it's becuz I touched it, but I couldn't just leave it sitting where it was on the ground either. So maybe both of those (the canola and the bird's nest) had something to do with my getting morgs... or candida if I actually have it. Anyway, speaking of birds I've been sitting here watching the cutest little bird building her nest the past couple of days in the bird house we have on the porch rail. It sits right out front of my window where I sit at the puter. She's sooo tiny and she brings the biggest twigs to the hole and tries to shove them in there... I just so want to help her but I know not to touch anything or she'll go somewhere else. But some of the twigs she's carrying are 4 times longer than she is! I just went and took a quick pic of it... See all the twigs coming out of the hole? Doesn't it just make you wanna push the twigs in further for her? But I know she knows what she's doin... we have more birds here this year than we ever have. Lots of Robin's too... my namesake! hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by ruth on Apr 15, 2010 20:52:52 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Apr 16, 2010 7:47:51 GMT -5
Bannanny, that is just too precious! (the bird house and all)
(heheh - and what you said about how it makes you want to help by pushing in the twigs for her) how cute ;D
Watching things like this of nature, oooooh it's just the utmost best!
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Post by ruth on Apr 16, 2010 10:49:39 GMT -5
this is from the candida society. when it said that candida likes an alkaline environment... "(Article from the Candida Digest July 2000) Is Candida an Endocrine Disorder? Candida is usually thought to result from a weakness of the immune system following antibiotic therapy. This may be true, but it may not be the whole truth. If it isn't then any treatment based on it is unlikely to be completely successful in all patients. Our data indicates that whilst the majority of sufferers do recover (occasionally relapsing at a later date) a minority fail to recover at all. Effective treatment requires satisfactory explanations of underlying causes. As long ago as the 1980s American physicians noted that their most difficult-to-treat candida patients had endocrine systems that were not working properly, known as the APICH syndrome. As an unbalanced endocrine system may play a role in all candida overgrowth, it is important to look carefully at the relationship between candida and the endocrine system. We begin with the usual description of the causes of candida. What is candida? 'Candida' is the popular term for an overgrowth of candida - a condition known to medical doctors as 'intestinal candidiasis' when found in the intestines or 'systemic candidiasis' when found elsewhere in the body. It was first diagnosed by American physicians in the 1970s.When we are healthy, candida lives (in its yeast form) in our intestines where it competes with bacteria for room. Like bacteria, it is aerobic i.e. it needs oxygen to live. When we die, oxygenated blood stops coursing through our bodies, suffocating the bacteria. But candida (like all yeast) can survive without oxygen by changing into its fungal, anaerobic form. It spreads rapidly into the area vacated by the dead bacteria, putting down roots into the walls of the intestines, and sporing through the gut wall into the rest of the body.Candida decomposes cell membranes, providing food for other microbes, particularly the maggots which infest corpses. The Egyptians realised this thousands of years ago. When they wanted to mummify a body they extracted the intestines as soon as possible after death, to stop the body rotting from the inside out, embalming the rest of the body with eucalyptus and other anti-fungal oils to kill any remaining candida and other microbes.Sounds revolting, but a diagnosis of 'candida' means that this process has started, whilst we are still alive. It doesn't mean that you are at death's door. On the contrary candida rarely kills. But its presence in large numbers means that your immune system has an unremitting battle to keep it under control - a battle which takes a terrible toll on your health. Common symptoms of candida The damage to the intestinal wall allows toxins to enter the bloodstream. This condition called 'leaky gut syndrome' often leads to food allergies, foggy brain, migraines and depression. Symptoms in the intestines include diarrhoea or constipation, bloatedness, flatulence and itchy anus. Once through to the rest of the body, the candida can live anywhere there are mucous membranes - it particularly likes the vagina, lungs and the sinuses, providing food for bacteria and viruses. It has an ability to disrupt the endocrine system causing symptoms such as weight gain or weight loss, PMS, menstrual irregularities, joint pains, asthma, hayfever, muscle fatigue and chronic tiredness. Testing usually reveals vitamin, mineral and enzyme deficiencies and low blood sugar. Thyroid tests often indicate that the thyroid is functioning normally, but body temperature is inexplicably low. Some of the most obvious symptoms of candida overgrowth are thrush, cystitis and fungal infections of the nails or skin, such as athlete's foot. Local medication is not permanently successful. This list of symptoms is illustrative not exhaustive. Causes of candida - the traditional view A decade ago books on candida were hard to come by - but now most bookshops stock a good choice. We have a lot more information and a vast increase in the choice of supplements, as new anti-fungal properties of herbs are discovered and added to supplements. But we haven't made any progess in understanding why candida has become so prevalent. Authors of recent publications seem to agree that the number one cause is overuse of broad spectrum antibiotics. Candida then overwhelms the immune system by producing toxins which repress T-lymphocytes, the main search-and-destroy cells in the immune system. This is a far simpler account than that given by earlier writers (often practising physicians) who cited a complex mix of contributory factors. GPs have difficulty accepting this simpler hypothesis. They know that antibiotics cause thrush in susceptible individuals, which they (wrongly) regard as little more than a temporary nuisance, restricted to the genitals and mouth. They don't believe that a microscopic organism (which our bodies have accommodated for thousands of years) can permanently overwhelm a healthy immune system to do such wide-spread damage.It seems that we are in danger of talking up one possible hypothesis (disregarding others) and unfortunately our chosen one alienates the medical profession and provides poor guidance for the very people who need it most: severe cases with complications, and those who relapse. It is time to take a fresh look at the underlying causes of candida. How does the endocrine system work? In simple terms, the endocrine system (part of the hormonal system) has a number of glands e.g. ovaries, testes, adrenals and thyroid all controlled by the pituitary gland (the master gland) and the hypothalamus in the brain. Under direction from the brain, each gland releases a chemical messenger (hormone) into the blood stream, that circulates until it finds its target site - a receptor specially-shaped for it on various organs. The hormone fits into the receptor and turns it on - like a key opening a lock. All of our organs (including the brain) have receptors, and the arrival of the hormone messenger governs the activity of the organ, turning it up or down, on or off. This is the basic mechanism for how most drugs work in the body, as drugs are made to mimic hormones. Quantities of all circulating hormones are continuously monitored and adjusted by the brain. It is a complex system because some hormones have more than one function, and hormones work with or against each one other. Let's look at how your hormones affect thrush. The endocrine system governs the acid-alkaline balance in the vagina. Normally it is kept slightly acidic, but if the endocrine system decides to raise the pH level (making it alkaline), the vaginal wall becomes less hospitable to the bacteria that live there. They die, and the vacated space is filled by an organism that likes an alkaline environmentl i.e. thrush. This is why to get rid of thrush permanently, you need to return the vagina to its natural acidic state. Go gently - drastic treatment will certainly banish the thrush, but a sudden vacuum will be quickly filled by an opportunistic strain of bacteria that will bring as many problems as the thrush. You also need to discover why your endocrine system is altering the acid-alkaline balance (e.g. are you taking HRT or other corticosteroids?) and let the body get back to the balance that it wants to maintain for
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Post by ruth on Apr 16, 2010 11:05:16 GMT -5
candida society article on asthma
it can be proposed that the factor that gives rise to the inflammatory process and changes in the immune response from Th1 - to Th2 - helper path, may be the true cause of asthma. If such a factor exists, the inflammation caused by it, on the one hand leads to asthma, and on the other, to atopy (which can aggravate asthma or exist without clinical symptoms) as a marker of immunity system changes.
What could this factor be? Clearly, it must be closely connected with the immune system. As the immune system evolved primarily as a protection against infection, it is logical to assume that the factor is infectious. As many physicians know, until recently bronchial asthma was classified as infectious. In addition, the data shows that the most severe asthma cases are accompanied by neutrophilous - infectious - inflammation. Taken together this evidence leads one to ask:
Which infection could it be?
How is it connected with asthma and atopy?
Identification of the micro-organism should be possible from bacteriological analyses of sputum and intestinal content of patients. Analyses have shown the following results:
Fungal micro-organisms are revealed in 69.8% of all the analyses.
Candida spores. were found in asthmatics' sputum in 63.3% of patients.
Other fungi - Aspergillus and Penicillium - were found in 2.3% and 4.1% of samples, respectively.
All these fungal micro-organisms were associated with bacteria: Streptococci and staphylococci were found in 55.9% and 52.4% respectively.
Other bacterial micro-organisms - Klebsiella pneum. and E. Coli - were found in 12.8% and 2.4% respectively.
Occasionally other bacteria were found. In particular Pseudomonas spores, e.g. Pseudomonas aeruginosa were found in 0.087% of all patients' sputum.
Fungal micro-organisms were the most prevalent in sputum bacteriological analyses, and were found in the majority of the patients under investigation. In almost all cases, Candida spores were accompanied by various types of bacteria. Only in one case, was Candida albicans found without any co-existing bacteria.At the same time, Candida spores were found in 99.6% of the intestinal content of the asthmatics under study.
It should be noted that Candida spores are often found in healthy people. In particular Candida albicans is a saprophyte commonly found on human skin, the oral cavity and mucosa. Its prevalence in the general population is:
on the skin (19-70%);
in the oral cavity of adults (20-30%);
in newborns' oral cavities (90%);
in the intestinal tract of adults (36%);
in the intestinal tract of children (50%).
Thus, according to the literature and our own data, most people with bronchial asthma have Candida spores in their sputum and intestines.
When analyzing this data, we found a direct correlation between the increase in Candida spores and the rise in asthma over the last 50 years. Fifty years ago, the number of Candida carriers in Russia was 5-15% of the population, and the asthma frequency was 0.1-0.5%.
In the 1960-1980s these indices increased so that the percentage of Candida carriers became 20-53% and asthma frequency reached 1-3% of the whole population.
During 1990-2001 the percentage of Candida carriers and asthmatics reached on average 60-70% and 4-15% of the whole population, respectively. Thus, both of these indices have grown concurrently over these years, not less than 5-10 times.
When Candida micro-organisms settle on the human mucosa in unhealthy situations (caused by massive antibiotic therapy, local immune system weakness etc.) they start active colonisation, and produce toxins that cause epithelium damage. Some Candida toxins can liberate histamine from mast cells leading to initial mucosal inflammation, and further immune system reactions.
Candida reproduction and excretion of its toxins can cause an initial inflammatory process, which can be neutrophilous. In addition, the presence of Candida increases the pathological action of other microbes, which exacerbates the inflammatory process in the respiratory tract mucosa. The further mutation of Th1-helper to Th2-helper leads directly to eosinophilous inflammation and the development of asthma.
Data from the scientific literature confirms that Candida fungal infection is capable of "switching" the immune system from normal (Th1-helper) to the pathological Th2-helper response.
Asthma inflammation may be an attempt by human immune cellular mechanisms to "crash" release from massive fungal Candida colonization, in order to avoid severe damage from phagocytosis. As a result its immunity is compelled to pass on the less damaging - antibody productive way - with participation of Th2-helper lymphocytes, which leads to atopy. Generated atopy causes acute allergic (antibody-mediators) reactions to different allergens in the organism, shown by paroxysmal bronchial spasm against a background of an inflammatory process persisting in the bronchial tree. Inflammatory reactions of the cellular-mediated type with participation of ?-lymphocites-killers proceed simultaneously in the bronchial tree. As is known, they develop in those cases where the immune system meets antigens on the surface of alien cells.
In summary, it is possible that the true cause of bronchial asthma development could be Candida yeast-fungi. These microorganisms are considered to be saprophytes living in the mouth and human intestinal tract. Their uncontrollable reproduction and colonization on the intestinal tract mucosa induces a change in immune response from ?h1- to ?h2-helper, and that leads to atopy. Its penetration to the respiratory tract with associated bacteria may induce initial neutrophilous inflammation. The consequential change from ?h1- to ?h2-helper immune response transforms the inflammatory process to an eosinophilous type, that leads to bronchial asthma. Consequently, atopy can exist without asthma, and asthma without atopy. When they do combine, atopy can exacerbate the inflammatory process in the bronchial tree, helping to turn it into a chronic condition.
The asthma and allergy growth rates may be induced by frequent antibiotic treatment of patients. Looking again at the frequency data of Candida and asthma in different years, it is noticeable that their growth coincides with the beginning of medicinal usage of wide-spectrum antibiotics at the end of the 1950s and beginning of 1960s. This observation supports the famous monograph "Candida mycosis as a complication of antibacterial treatment" written by A. Arievich and Z. Stepanishcheva.
The present day level of incidence of Candida in healthy people (70%) cannot be considered to be normal. Local and systemic candidiasis have spread to such a degree, that wide-spectrum antifungal preparations are advertised in the mass media. When considering all of these facts together, it becomes clear why the international experts committee GINA 2002 came to following conclusion: "Despite efforts on improvement of rendering assistance in patients with BA undertaken within last decade, the majority of patients has not received advantage of achievements in this field". It is no coincidence that all three factors: the wide beginning of antibiotics treatment, growth of Candida carrier level and a bronchial asthma rate growing, are observed over the same period.
The infectious nature of asthma explains another fact. It is well known that fungal infections can be transferred within households. It has also been observed that asthma is passed among contacts who are not blood relatives, for example between husband and wife. This is inexplicable in terms of heredity, but explained by a fungal infection. It also explains why twins suffer more than brothers and sisters – the probability of simultaneous infection with Candida from mother to twins is higher. This explains the unsuccessful attempts to connect asthma with heredity, and it even explains why one can observe cases of asthmatic twins where one is sick and the other is absolutely healthy.
One can ask a general question: should every person be infected with Candida micro-organisms? Clinical and epidemiological research done in 1950 show that yeast fungi Candida were found in the mouth and pharynx of less than 5% of healthy people. Undoubtedly the uncontrolled growth of these pathogenic microorganisms has had a detrimental effect on public health.
It appears that microorganisms in general are implicated as a cause of many non-specific inflammatory diseases, not just asthma, and play a more important role than is currently considered. This particularly applies to those cases where bacteria and fungi act on human organs and systems not by "frontal" attack as, for example, in purulent diseases, but in a more refined way - by switching the immune system response from normal to pathological.
We need to revise our view of how people and microbes live together symbiotically, with both "partners" following the rules of the game. That revision could lead to a change in our general model of causality in medicine.
Translated from: The "Medical Newspaper", (Moscow), N 54, 21. 07. 2006 Dr. med Victor N. Solopov, "Asthma Service" Chief Adviser
back to National Candida Society Home Page
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Post by ruth on Apr 16, 2010 11:25:04 GMT -5
cassia.org/candiscussion.htmSystemic candidasis is a co-infection that is fairly common in anyone whose taken repeated antibiotics over their lifetime; this by it's very nature, includes lyme patients. It is furthermore commonly under-recognized even by those docs who are considered "lyme literate". (To speak of its common nature, one health food store owner recently reported that two thirds of her customers come in to her store to treat this condition.) The symptoms that accompany Candida --or yeast-- infection are shockingly similar to those that accompany lyme: fatigue, feeling of being "drained", pain or swelling in joints, memory problems, depression, and allergies, to name a few. I personally believe that a significant amount of the symptoms that we deal with as lyme patients are not entirely from the lyme, but in part from the Candida -- whose infection also works to diminish immune function. sugar is the favorite food source for Candida yeast. Happily fed, it will multiply. The sugar of the greatest offense is the simple sugars (sugar and sugary foods). However, although it's lesser in effect, complex sugars (also called complex carbohydrates -- breads, cereals, pasta, etc.) also have the ability to be broken down to be its food source. It begins to grow in long strands that can pierce the intestinal walls, causing a condition known as "leaky gut". In this strand-like form, it's resistant to phagocytosis -- the normal elimination process via the immune system. This increased intestinal permeability can allow undigested macromolecule (large) food particles and toxins to pass directly into the body causing a great deal of problems. Because food particles larger than can be digested are now in the bloodstream, the body reacts to them with an allergic reaction. Furthermore, this creates an increased strain on the immune system, and the ability to fight against Candida (as well as other conditions) is even further reduced, beginning a cycle. Moreover, these particles can also cross the blood/brain barrier and be mistaken for neurotransmitters, creating a host of neurological symptoms. DocDarren reports on his page (referenced above) that there are well known relationships between yeast and such diseases as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Psoriasis. During one study a group (of 1100) CFS patients were treated with antifungal therapy, and the number of patients who had been on disability at the beginning of the study, dropped from 685 down to 12. In a separate report from the Archives of Dermatology, Volume 120, April 1984, he lists one group of doctors stating that " four cases of long term, bodily psoriasis (10-25 years) were cured with oral nystatin (an antifungal) within several months." TREATMENT The elimination of yeast requires working in two basic areas: eliminate the yeast and repopulate the normal bacteria. Repopulating the normal bacteria would be assisted by consuming yogurt and acidophilus powder. The acidophilus powder is very important to take in addition to yogurt, because while yogurt's bacteria count is in the millions, that count from the acidophilus is generally in the billions. Eliminating the yeast has a few more facets to it. One of the first things to do is to work to reduce or eliminate sugar consumption. Not only does Candida rapidly proliferate in the presence of sugar, but research has shown that sugars dramatically increase Candida's ability to adhere to the epithelial mucosa cells. Antifungal treatment depends heavily on this dietary change. Another area that may be helpful is to perhaps eat smaller meals. Large meals travel further distance down the intestines before they are fully digested and absorbed. It's believed that the yeast generally resides far down that intestinal tract. If our meals are digested before they hit this area of the intestines, the yeast is effectively starved. Digestive enzymes (available in health-food stores) can help this process. Attempt to avoid antibiotics, cortisones (steroids) --both topical and oral, and antacid or anti-ulcer medications. Candida has been shown to grow rapidly in the presence of these substances. Some other suggestions are: Increase dietary protein and reduce carbohydrates. Proteins tend to starve yeasts and carbohydrates ultimately break down into sugars. (I can't help but wonder if it's not this precise mechanism that accounts for success with the Atkins diet?) Taking oral glucosamine works to prevent the binding of Candida to epithelial mucosal cells, and works to restore the mucosal layer. (Many may remember this recommendation as helpful to lyme patients from the Dr. Burruscano "Guidelines".) There are several natural antifungals: caprylic acid, garlic, undeclyenic acid, gentian violet. Most importantly, DocDarren (who is a molecular geneticist) believes that there is no ultimate cure of yeast without prescription antifungals. These would include Lasimil (newly introduced), Diflucan, Sporonox and Nystatin. The antifungals work to dissolve the outer cell membranes of the yeast, causing them to disintegrate. He feels that nothing lesser than this strength would accomplish a permanent cure. Notwithstanding, it's appropriate for me to mention here that I have personally seen success without such prescriptions by working in two areas: eliminating sugars and taking some natural preparations (see this page for a discussion of these products and strategies.) From my lyme treatment days, I still have a two month's supply of the strong prescription, Sporonox, in my drawer, but have resisted taking it for the time being to see if I have the ability to successfully treat this condition without prescription antifungals. While it's still possible that I may one day take them, I've seen an all but full recovery now without them. What has been separately most interesting to me in this discovery is to now understand why those successful things that I had stumbled across to lessen my "lyme symptoms" have been successful doing so. For instance, I had already found symptomatic success in taking digestive enzymes, and in eating smaller meals. Also, I'd found success in eliminating sugars (which many other lyme people have also discovered.) Further, I had discovered that taking Blue-Green Algae (a protein) or another protein drink on an empty stomach in the morning worked to clear my "brain fog". (Remember that proteins work against Candida?) In the light of the Candida infection, many of these things now make perfect sense.
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Post by ruth on Apr 16, 2010 11:28:42 GMT -5
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Post by Jill on Apr 16, 2010 12:04:01 GMT -5
This is the best information yet Ruth. Thank you so much for posting it- helps in the understanding of how the candida lives in a 'healthy' person until the blood does not deliver enough oxygen and it then competes with bacteria for the consumption of the oxygen. The mention of when a body dies, there is no oxygen and the aerobic yeast changes form to a fungal anaerobic form and then spreads rapidly into the areas vacated by the now dead bacteria, putting down roots in the intestines and sporing through the gut wall into the rest of the body. Explains it all very clearly. What comes to mind is the Oxy caps that I have been taking lately for numbness in my hand. The caps have improved my pain and achy all over feeling. More from Ruth's posts: cassia.org/candiscussion.htmFair use Excerpt: DocDarren reports on his page (referenced above) that there are well known relationships between yeast and such diseases as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Psoriasis. During one study a group (of 1100) CFS patients were treated with antifungal therapy, and the number of patients who had been on disability at the beginning of the study, dropped from 685 down to 12. In a separate report from the Archives of Dermatology, Volume 120, April 1984, he lists one group of doctors stating that "four cases of long term, bodily psoriasis (10-25 years) were cured with oral nystatin (an antifungal) within several months." end excerpt Of 1100 in the study - 685 who were disabled- dropped to 12 with anti-fungal therapy Fair use Excerpt: There are several natural antifungals: caprylic acid, garlic, undeclyenic acid, gentian violet. Most importantly, DocDarren (who is a molecular geneticist) believes that there is no ultimate cure of yeast without prescription antifungals. These would include Lasimil (newly introduced), Diflucan, Sporonox and Nystatin. The antifungals work to dissolve the outer cell membranes of the yeast, causing them to disintegrate. He feels that nothing lesser than this strength would accomplish a permanent cure. end excerpt The good news and the bad news.... caprylic acid, garlic et al do help but we have to have prescription antifungals. Dr Atkins diet seems like it would help, as mentioned in the article. Very helpful information! Next available $$$ and I plan to pick up the Caprylic acid and/or the Beta Glucan. The latter looks like it would be really effective- Jill
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Post by Jill on Apr 16, 2010 12:11:02 GMT -5
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Post by jeany on Apr 16, 2010 14:11:39 GMT -5
Thanks Jill for the site. I'll check it out. Germany belongs to the EU, we all know that, but Bavaria has it's own laws (only federal state which has this) according use of Genetic Engineering and GM feed or food. What's allowed in other federal states isn't necassarily 'allowed' in Bavaria. For instance, Monsanto got 'kicked' out of Bavaria last year! I need to look what's happening explicit here. Jeany
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Post by Jill on Apr 16, 2010 18:27:36 GMT -5
Jeany, I can not find anything about Bavaria as relates to GMO but for one link- FARK- where they are talking about a Bavarian beekeeper who had his hives contaminated with Monsanto 'stuff'. Evidently the bee-keeper is happy. Monsanto gave him 10k. Ruth and all, Kiki just posted about her treatment with Dr Shoemaker. So glad to hear from her! The new addition to her protocol is: SSKI (potassium iodide) Googling, I found: www.nukepills.com/potassium-iodide.htmFDA Approved Potassium Iodide Blocks the thyroid's absorption of cancer-causing radioactive iodine released from a nuclear reactor or nuclear bomb ThyroShield™ Potassium Iodide *** Unlikely the doctor is treating radioactive iodine from nuclear reactors. Ok, we can eliminate that.... www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/potassium-iodide.htmlTestimonials at the above link for potassium-iodied curing everything from ovarian cysts to sinus infectionsScroll down towards the bottom of the page for this: Fair use Excerpt: 10/22/2009: Bill Jencks from San Fernando, Philippines replies: "To answer Anonymous's question above: The Doctor who successfully used SSKI against Candida in his story was Dr Orian Truss I think."end excerpt Most likely your doctor is treating yeast/fungal infection. More here: www.fungusfocus.com/yeast/ycandida_info2.htm It was mentioned on the morgellons.org/letter which I found here: www.morgellonsuk.org.uk/support_medical.htmFair use Excerpt: Elevated blood glucose, insulin, calcium, and serum Homocysteine, and low serum potassium and magnesium. end excerpt I have found that to be true as well in my experience. Low potassium and magnesium that is... Need to look at the elevated blood glucose, insulin, calcium and serum Homocycteine. So another commonality? Or group of same? More later... Jill
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Post by ruth on Apr 16, 2010 21:59:40 GMT -5
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Post by Jill on Apr 16, 2010 22:30:32 GMT -5
I don't know that I would take Bacillus subtilus Ruth- just on general principals. Wonder if they still source it from Camel by-products? Yuk I was wondering if Agrobacterium ti is responsible for the Horizontal Chromosome Transfer- plant-pathogenic fungus ? You had posted it a day ago: ec.asm.org/cgi/content/abstract/8/11/1732 Not enough information in the abstract to determine that fact. Going to the Protein Data Bank, I put Agro Ti transforms Saccharomyces cerevisiae into the search box: www.rcsb.org/pdb/results/webResults.do?qrid=44954AD2&tabtoshow=Current 208 results and more about those 'Zinc Fingers' and the prions protein URE2 from the yeast Saccharomyces cervisiae. Could that be the mis-folded Alzheimer's prion? Here is one of the abstracts: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18339938?dopt=AbstractScience. 2008 Mar 14;319(5869):1523-6. Amyloid fibrils of the HET-s(218-289) prion form a beta solenoid with a triangular hydrophobic core. Wasmer C, Lange A, Van Melckebeke H, Siemer AB, Riek R, Meier BH. Physical Chemistry, ETH Zurich, 8093 Zurich, Switzerland. Fair use Erratum in: * Science. 2008 Apr 4;320(5872):50. Excerpt: Abstract Prion and nonprion forms of proteins are believed to differ solely in their three-dimensional structure, which is therefore of paramount importance for the prion function. However, no atomic-resolution structure of the fibrillar state that is likely infectious has been reported to date. We present a structural model based on solid-state nuclear magnetic resonance restraints for amyloid fibrils from the prion-forming domain (residues 218 to 289) of the HET-s protein from the *** filamentous fungus Podospora anserina. On the basis of 134 intra- and intermolecular experimental distance restraints, we find that HET-s(218-289) forms a left-handed beta solenoid, with each molecule forming two helical windings, a compact hydrophobic core, at least 23 hydrogen bonds, three salt bridges, and two asparagine ladders. The structure is likely to have broad implications for understanding the infectious amyloid state. end excerpt PMID: 18339938 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]Free Article *** www.rcsb.org/pdb/static.do?p=education_discussion/molecule_of_the_month/pdb101_jmol.htmlHET-s Prion
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Post by jeany on Apr 17, 2010 6:56:17 GMT -5
gee..thanks for your time, Jill. Can I have the link?..Sure would like to read what the Germans have to say about this...
Jeany
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Post by Jill on Apr 17, 2010 7:04:56 GMT -5
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Post by jeany on Apr 17, 2010 7:49:38 GMT -5
Jeany, I can not find anything about Bavaria as relates to GMO but for one link- FARK- where they are talking about a Bavarian beekeeper who had his hives contaminated with Monsanto 'stuff'. Evidently the bee-keeper is happy. Monsanto gave him 10k. Jill Thanks for link. I thought, there was something wrong here.... You know, Jill, the way you 'put it out' here looks like the Bavarian farmer was paid off with 'peanuts' by Monsanto and now he's happy and shut up...that is not true! Monsanto did not give him 10K...nor is he happy about what happened. Not at all. Fact is, the Bavarian farmer sued Bavaria for the amount of 10.000 Euro for the loss of his honey he couldn't sell and other costs he had. He basically threw his GM contaminated honey away! ....When the case became public, a district court in the Bavarian city of Augsburg ordered Bablok to stop selling, or even giving away, his honey.
As a result, he became Germany's first beekeeper who delivered his honey to a waste incineration facility.
Now Bablok is suing the Bavarian State Research Center for Agriculture to recover his costs and his lost sales, which he says amount to about €10,000.
....They saw no reason to support a company that uses a highly controversial technology to create a product rejected by the majority of Germans.
Lobbying work, which can be successful and reliable in markets like the United States, did not produce the desired results in Germany. *I'm glad Germany doesn't take this 'buddy-buddy-Monsanto & co.-onehandwashestheother-crap'! .....Germany's Agriculture and Consumer Protection Minister Ilse Aigner recently told the Berliner Zeitung newspaper that the government was looking into banning Monsanto's GM corn.
She noted that green genetic engineering "has so far not yielded tangible benefits for the people," and that consumers are opposed to genetically modified plants and farmers don't want them.*Aigner did! She kicked Monsanto and MON out!! Facts shouldn't be twisted! Jeany
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Post by Jill on Apr 17, 2010 8:28:17 GMT -5
Jeany, I can not find anything about Bavaria as relates to GMO but for one link- FARK- where they are talking about a Bavarian beekeeper who had his hives contaminated with Monsanto 'stuff'. Evidently the bee-keeper is happy. Monsanto gave him 10k. Jill Thanks for link. I thought, there was something wrong here.... You know, Jill, the way you 'put it out' here looks like the Bavarian farmer was paid off with 'peanuts' by Monsanto and now he's happy and shut up...that is not true! Monsanto did not give him 10K...nor is he happy about what happened. Not at all. Fact is, the Bavarian farmer sued Bavaria for the amount of 10.000 Euro for the loss of his honey he couldn't sell and other costs he had. He basically threw his GM contaminated honey away! ....When the case became public, a district court in the Bavarian city of Augsburg ordered Bablok to stop selling, or even giving away, his honey.
As a result, he became Germany's first beekeeper who delivered his honey to a waste incineration facility.
Now Bablok is suing the Bavarian State Research Center for Agriculture to recover his costs and his lost sales, which he says amount to about €10,000.
....They saw no reason to support a company that uses a highly controversial technology to create a product rejected by the majority of Germans.
Lobbying work, which can be successful and reliable in markets like the United States, did not produce the desired results in Germany. *I'm glad Germany doesn't take this 'buddy-buddy-Monsanto & co.-onehandwashestheother-crap'! .....Germany's Agriculture and Consumer Protection Minister Ilse Aigner recently told the Berliner Zeitung newspaper that the government was looking into banning Monsanto's GM corn.
She noted that green genetic engineering "has so far not yielded tangible benefits for the people," and that consumers are opposed to genetically modified plants and farmers don't want them.*Aigner did! She kicked Monsanto and MON out!! Facts shouldn't be twisted! Jeany I found that link as a favor to you Jeany. I did not twist facts - I just skimmed the info because I was in the midst of searching for answers to the Pathogenic Yeast issue, which is Germane to this condition and the topic of the thread- People can read the information at the link if they are interested and learn the whole story. I took the time to find you something specific that you requested. It is of no interest to me. IOW- it was an ASIDE. An issue that is important to those in Bavaria no doubt. But you are welcome for the link.
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Post by fritolay66 on Apr 17, 2010 8:46:37 GMT -5
Ruth posted,
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This is similar to what I have been doing for the last month. I had actually found information similar to this and incorporated it into my own "protocol".
The only oil I use in this household to cook with is EVOO and for a different flavor with our fish, I may use EVCO. I may not get 6 tsps. of oil a day, but we do get some everyday and cook with it daily and for quite sometime.
Prior to this and for quite sometime, we also took by mouth, the EVCO as recommeded on Bee's candida website.
I do take biotin, but was only taking it twice a day and have upped it to three on the days I can. My nails especially have started growing rather fast, and my hair seems to have picked up a bit. I was having another episode of major fallout, and that seems to have slowed down. But I think that is just a cyclical thing.
As for the fiber, I found apple pectin fiber again, sometime ago, and out of all the fibers I have forced down over the last three years, this one has done some real good. I have found it to be the best so far as far as mopping up toxins. It has a fruity taste, and so I mix it with some orange flavored physilium and vanilla flavored slim fast for all the addtional vitamins, not because I am trying to lose weight. The flavor is awesome, almost addictive, and I find compliance with my son goes way up with this mix. He gets tons more vitamins so he doesn't have to swallow so many pills and capsules. And it is so easy to mix in a pineapple smoothie. Good for the bromelain and digestion.
If I can't do the fiber mix during mid-day, I am then using yucca as a fiber, or toxin binder, as it is considered a bile sequestering herb. It comes in capsule form and is easy to keep a few hidden in my purse for when I can't make my fiber mix, and to keep the binding throughout the day.
Since doing this, I seem to have had another step forward in my progress. Just an FYI. If anyone else decides on doing something similar, I would love some feedback for comparison.
Additonally, nothing, no combination or anything will work, if one cannot break the positive feedback loop of inflammation.
Great posts and great thread!!
Frito
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Post by jeany on Apr 17, 2010 8:47:35 GMT -5
Yes, Jill. And I saw it as a favor indeed. I just didn't want folks here to get a wrong impression of what's going on in other parts of the world, esp. Germany, according Monsanto, that's all. I was also curious to know, if it was true that the Bavarian farmer was paid off and shut up, which wouldn't have fit the German 'GM-mentality' at all and I was glad to read it was not so...
Again, Thank you!
Jeany
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