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Post by kammy on Jun 22, 2010 18:30:55 GMT -5
Hi Carla, welcome - I hope the site gets it back together for the people's sake. I wish for a lot of things right now, I hope America gets our oilspill disaster resolved peacefully and calmly ended soon, we can get our government straightened out, good gosh! and I hope there's an Internet in the future, I hope there is a future, a whole lot of things are not what they seem right now. We have to realize the people there are under a lot of stress, my observations are that some are acting very calm, too calm and others are bordering on insane. We really don't have any idea of what they are being subjected to, especially those living in Florida and in the Gulf region. We need to be gentle with them, they are fragile.
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Post by fritolay66 on Jun 22, 2010 22:25:42 GMT -5
Welcome Carla!!! Happy to see you here, and hope you find you like it here as well. Frito
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Post by jeany on Jun 23, 2010 7:22:09 GMT -5
Hello Carla , welcome to LB. Good to see you here. Jeany
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Post by toni on Jun 23, 2010 7:58:24 GMT -5
Hi Carla,
I know I very rarely visited MDR (I like it here a lot) and just was always comfy, but regardless, I too am sorry your site closed.
Because I'm not really familar with your site that was closed, and just sitting back looking at most situations (of why anyone) would contribute to engaging in promoting a closure of "anything actually"....it seems "in general life" there's two reasons, imho.
One is, to contribute to "stop" something that is of concern, is usually because they have something TO fear that might being exposed -
And the other reason usually to discredit "any business or group" is done for the reason of redirecting people.
Just like politics, they slander each other in hopes of winning a few more voters.
Exposure usually nips a lot of tactics in the bud.
Take care.
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Post by kammy on Jun 23, 2010 9:58:42 GMT -5
This may not be the appropriate thread for this but we don't have one yet... I'm curious about the behavior of some of my friends back home. Can someone tell me what you think the general consensus is on how the average American is handling and accepting this oilspill? I've been speaking with some close friends back home and it's like they are on a drug. Yes, yes, I've been a little over-board, Chicken Little, the sky is falling when realizing what is potentially happening and I'm sure they are ignoring me that way, are stressed enough, etc. but, I'm speaking specifically about behavior. Here's a couple of examples:
I recommend to a friend to store water, she doesn't feel compelled to - she has a well.
After warning my sister, she is emailing me that she is out site seeing in the city, telling me how beautiful the Victorian homes are from the cityscape with the sun setting, that I should get out and have more fun.
Another friend... not a word about the oilspill nor preparations... my question is; are people preparing or ignoring?
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Post by toni on Jun 23, 2010 11:03:43 GMT -5
Kammy, Not to be a what you should do person at all, but (maybe start a thread on that) issue? This thread really seemed to be only about the MDR closing - and how people felt about it. And I promise you, I'm not trying change how you post, it just seems what you posted is a major change of the subject of "this thread".
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Post by kmarie on Jun 23, 2010 12:09:06 GMT -5
(Kammy, I agree with Toni, your "new topic" would make a great thread and it is not what we are discussing here.) Carla, Thank you for posting clarification of what happened and please know that I and others truly care. It saddens me greatly that any group would want to insult or discredit you after all these years of great work and effort. You are an excellent moderator! Please don't let a group of kooks make you think otherwise. I personally will miss the MDR, it's valuable information, and the support if offered sufferers until it re-opens. Very Sincerely, Kmarie ( Kmar at MDR )
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Post by kammy on Jun 23, 2010 13:58:04 GMT -5
I believe there are eyes in this world, every time you type a certain word... it rings a bell somewhere. I can see now, with what I understand that the reason is, going with the theme of this thread is - guessing; we dug a hole in the ground and came up on the other side, we got too close too soon and were attacked to back off, they needed more time, that maybe the MDR mission was solely a monitoring mission...? That maybe we should discuss certain things in under banners that aren't appropriate? I'm almost done here... I'm going to write some poetry, I think I gave the answers, do you want me to open it?... I can't guarantee to lead it that's not my forte, necessarily - come to think of it - none of this was... lol
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Post by carla on Jun 23, 2010 15:02:00 GMT -5
I love it here already .You will never get shut of me now . ;D I'll be back when I ve got my children asleep .
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Post by jo on Jun 23, 2010 16:57:00 GMT -5
ahhhh these guys and girls are gggggrreeeaaaatt!! Carls, I feel abit like the littlest hobo...roaming around looking for a home. I've send you an email re MDRness. love yas Lymebusters Jo xxx
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Post by camv35s on Jun 23, 2010 20:18:14 GMT -5
Kammy, this ones for you. Final Report on the existence of a global system for the interception of private and commercial communications (ECHELON interception system), European Parliament Temporary Committee on the ECHELON Interception System, approved September 5, 2001 (~1 MB PDF file) A Dissent from the European Parliament Echelon Committee Report, minority report, July 4, 2001. Draft Report on the existence of a global system for the interception of private and commercial communications (ECHELON interception system), European Parliament Temporary Committee on the ECHELON Interception System, May 18, 2001 (780 kB PDF file) Secret Power - New Zealand's Role in the International Spy Network by Nicky Hager Published by Craig Potton Publishing, PO Box 555, Nelson, New Zealand First published 1996 ECHELON: NSA's Global Electronic Interception @ JYA Interception Capabilities 2000 Report to the Director General for Research of the European Parliament (Scientific and Technical Options Assessment programme office) on the development of surveillance technology and risk of abuse of economic information - April 1999 DEVELOPMENT OF SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGY AND RISK OF ABUSE OF ECONOMIC INFORMATION European Parliament (Scientific and Technical Options Assessment) December 1999 Presentation and Analysis State of the art in COMINT Encryption and cryptosystems in electronic surveillance The legality of the interception of electronic communications The perception of economic risks
The new space invaders - Spies in the sky Peter Goodspeed National Post Saturday, February 19, 2000 -- "This whole thing is so bizarrely powerful that the opportunity or temptation for abuse is fairly substantial," says Mr. Pike of the American Federation of Scientists. "How many people in your organization always obey the rules? "The notion that NSA or any other of these spy networks is the only large organization in human history in which everyone always obeys the rules just flies in the face of common sense," he says. SHH! UNCLE SAM IS LISTENING Jack Anderson and Douglas Cohn United Feature Syndicate November 16, 1999 -- According to John Pike, a military analyst at the Federation of American Scientists, "They are going to continue to gather anything they want to, but the wild card is what will be revealed in the report. We can assume that the NSA did not flat out break the law, but we can also assume that Barr won't be told much and the public will be told less" about Project Echelon. Critics Questioning NSA Reading Habits By Vernon Loeb Washington Post November 13, 1999; Page A03 -- Steven Aftergood, director of a research project on government secrecy at the independent Federation of American Scientists, said the controversy is a case study of the public's willingness to believe almost anything about the NSA. Trade Secrets : Is the U.S.'s most advanced surveillance system feeding economic intelligence to American businesses? Mother Jones November 1, 1999 "Since the NSA's collection capabilities are so grotesquely powerful, it's difficult to know what's going on over there," says John Pike, an analyst at the watchdog group Federation of American Scientists, who has tracked the NSA for years. THE EDGE WITH PAULA ZAHN FOX NEWS NETWORK October 21, 1999 -- Echelon is reportedly monitoring up to two million communications every hour of every day. John Pike "As long as the rules are conformed with, I think we're OK. The question is whether NSA's really obeying the rules."
Automatically generating a topic description for text and searching and sorting text by topic using the same United States Patent 5,937,422 Nelson , et al. August 10, 1999 --- It is an object of the present invention to automatically generate a topic description for a document that may include words that do not appear in the document. Possible applications of the present invention include: post processing to improve machine transcription (e.g., machine recognition of speech, auto dictation, text conversion from an optical character reader, etc.), and multi-lingual processing (e.g., multi-lingual interface, automatic translation, etc.). New Navy-supported machine recognizes spoken words better than humans NAVY WIRE SERVICE (NWS) - November 1, 1999 -- In benchmark testing, USC's speech recognition system bested all existing computer systems and outperformed the keenest human ears. Machine Demonstrates Superhuman Speech Recognition Abilities University of Southern California News Service Release date: 9/30/99 -- The system can distinguished words in vast amounts of random "white" noise — noise with amplitude 1,000 times the strength of the target auditory signal. Human listeners can deal with only a fraction as much. And the system can pluck words from the background clutter of other voices — the hubbub heard in bus stations, theater lobbies and cocktail parties, for example. With just a minor adjustment, the system can identify different speakers of the same word with superhuman acuity.
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Post by kammy on Jun 23, 2010 21:41:55 GMT -5
Gosh Cam, there sure is a lot of bell ringing going on. I'm surprised since the state of things, like losing our democratic Government and Constitutional Rights when we weren't looking, that we were able to say as much as we did. Unfortunately, I didn't save any of the information over there.
Hi Jo, welcome.
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Post by kmarie on Jun 23, 2010 22:25:59 GMT -5
I love it here already. You will never get shut of me now . ;D I'll be back when I ve got my children asleep . Carla,That is good to hear you say! We would love to see more of you around here! ---------------------------------------------------- Camv35s,Is this the thread you meant to post your informaton above? This link below is the thread where Kammy has moved her NEW discussion: lymebusters.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rash&action=display&thread=13999
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Post by fritolay66 on Jun 24, 2010 12:35:11 GMT -5
Carla,
I was wondering if you have any contact with TCM? I was hoping she would also join up here.
Frito
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Post by friskers on Jun 24, 2010 13:05:51 GMT -5
Welcome Jo and Carla ,please feel at home here even if its only temporary
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Post by kmarie on Jun 25, 2010 12:17:40 GMT -5
Carla, When I posted that we would love to see more of you "here", I want you to know that -- as Friskers pointed out ( even if it's only temporary) until decisions are made about re-opening as your website states.I would love for the MDR to become available again soon! That "pack" who came delivering their garbage and insults to discredit the MDR are merely a "pack of KOOKS".--------------------------------------------------------------------- More often than not, insults are delivered publicly and there is a good reason for this.You and MDR members obviously were a stepping stone for attention. An insult/attack made in confidence between two people only hurts the recipient, whereas an insult made in public can be a platform for attention by the aggressor/s.The recent attempt to discredit/insult you and the decent long time members was made in public as a ridiculous foolish attempt to gain attention, dominance and respect for themselves ... (i.e., aggressor/s). Those type of individuals NEED an audience.Thank you Carla for visiting here at LB with the warning. Hopefully they don't try coming here to distract. (edited original post for clarification)
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Post by kammy on Jun 25, 2010 23:30:44 GMT -5
Hi Frisky, why do you say 'even if it's only temporary'... you know something we don't? You think the Internet is going to be shut down?
I can't believe that MDR was just a snooping site, I can't imagine someone taking money to promote putting this disease on people, especially if you have it. And if the Internet is down... the world won't know - it's just too scary to think what strain might show up next. I heard the health care bill wouldn't allow you to own a gun nor fly on a plane if you try to get out of the country, they just deem you 'crazy'... well, we saw how well that worked... that was real fun, wasn't it? No, I can't believe the good folks over there would participate in anything like that.
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Post by toni on Jun 26, 2010 9:12:24 GMT -5
Kammy, I don't think Friskers meant "the entire internet being shut down" ;D..that would be as kooky as shutting off the telephone service or TV. I think (hi Friskers she's talking about the MDR site (possibly/maybe) ONLY being closed down temporarily... and then "maybe" being started back up BUT with changes.
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Post by friskers on Jun 26, 2010 10:59:13 GMT -5
kammy No I dont know anything . I am clueless as anyone else as to whats going on . But the message says "forum is closed until certain decisions are made" So that does imply it will re open. Thats how i read it anyway. thanks Toni , thats what I meant exactly
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Post by janedoe on Jun 27, 2010 2:57:48 GMT -5
i know what happened, im not gonna say names, i do miss the site though. there were a LOT of really good people there that really helped me a lot, i totaly freaked when i first got this,and it was the people on that site that helped me out. i feel like it was kind of my fault, but i hope it wasnt, i wasnt gonna back down to a persons insults, the shinxter video was directed to me, and i know what happened to that person, he just blew a gasket and had a mega meltdown, but it never should have happened.i tried to make peace with the person, asking what i did to offend them, thats when the site shut down. i dont know, i didnt want to fight with anybody, but its just not in my nature to kiss somebodys behind just because they demand recognition.i hope the forum opens again, but it seems a lot of the folks there are now here. some of you recognize me, so if a mod doesnt want me here, alli ask is that you PM me with a valid reason and i will take my leave, i cannot back down to anybody just because i dont recognize them to be 'king'..does that make sense? i dont want to fight! you dont have to like me, but dont yell at me either, ya know? i dont know.. i liked most of the people that were there.i miss some of you guys!! if it werent for many of you, i wouldnt have had the courage to fight this morgie crap, so to those folks, i say thank you. to those that didnt like me, i say thats ok, but if your gonna hate me, at least hate me for the right reasons, not simply because i asked questions that they didnt have answers to. asking questions is how i learn/figure stuff out.. anywho, .....
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