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Post by ctbarb on Jun 19, 2010 15:11:14 GMT -5
Please excuse if this message has been shown previously. I just researched a site that led me back to MDR. This is what was posted: The Forum is now closed till further notice. Until certain Decisions are made. FYI ctbarb
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Post by fritolay66 on Jun 19, 2010 15:16:18 GMT -5
There was a lot of fighting there. Is that what led to the shutdown?
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Post by fritolay66 on Jun 19, 2010 15:49:28 GMT -5
I just went there. Even if you log in, the forum is still closed. Anybody know what happened?
My gosh, if we lose some of the info at that place, it will be horrendous and a huge blow to sufferers. Some of that info I felt to be priceless. There is a ton of research there. Did Franky finally get fed up or is he ill? I sure hope he is not ill.
Frito
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Post by bannanny on Jun 19, 2010 15:50:21 GMT -5
Sheeeeeesh! I sure hope that wasn't the case frito. Why is everyone fighting lately? We really need to get back to what's important, which is loving and supporting each other. The last thing we need to allow this mess to do is make us crazy... it'll do it if you let it too. I've been wanting to address that situation here so I might as well do it now.
This bickering really needs to stop... we're better than that for pete's sake. I see one thing in it all too... morgs is winning. So let's not go there anymore and start loving each other and respecting each other again. We're family and we need to stick together... not push each other away. That's just what this thing wants us to do... so if there's gonna be fighting, make it your fight against morgs again, instead of it being against each other.
I love you guys ~~ bannanny
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Post by jeany on Jun 19, 2010 16:21:44 GMT -5
As you all know I've been a long term member at MDR but haven't been posting there much anymore due to terrible insults and attacks against me and Kammy. Esp. one member kept on posting ugly remarks and comments about us although we are hardly present. It kept on and on since months.These days he went so far to post a video of an anal surgery with pointing out he meant us..he called us the 'red sphincter army'! which at the end was deleted by the one of the moderators.
Not only he attacked us constantly but also other members, also newbies, who didn't agree with his theories or even mentioned a doubt by calling them awful names and ridiculing them.
This kind of behavior was ongoing since months now, not only him, but also newbies coming in and threatening others who disagreed. It was like somebody opened a 'scum-bag' and let it all out...
Inappropriate language, name calling, insults, threats, harassments..dirty comments about women...etc..etc..it got worse and worse.
Even if people tried to calm the situation down and also by sending pm's it didn't help.
I admit, I tried to ignore it, but that particular person went too far and I told him to stop and leave me/us alone. He just kept on.
It was crazy....
I'm not sure if this is why the forum was shut down but Franky did mention he had problems a while back...
All in all, it's sad..it was a great forum at one time and yes, you're right Frito, lots of research lost there also from Kam and me.
Jeany
ps: there were also new members who were assumlingly trying to sell stuff which stired up trouble too.
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Post by friskers on Jun 19, 2010 17:19:57 GMT -5
Katinka, very very sad thank God we still have lymebusters bannana thankyou , we need reminders like that why we are even here! PS.very aggressive sellers over there I hope they dont come here
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Post by jeany on Jun 19, 2010 18:22:09 GMT -5
It IS sad Friskers. At one time it was a great forum and the first one I've found support, help and friends when I first got sick and yes, you also came in a few times and tried to help calm things down and even pointed out the actual trouble maker but at that point it was already too late..sorry to say. That person stired up so much trouble, it's unbelievable, he should have been banned a long time ago if you ask me. Jeany
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Post by ibzahp on Jun 19, 2010 19:21:29 GMT -5
Geez sad things couldn't have worked out there. It was a great board but of late there were a couple bad apples. Bad mouthing everyone and picking fights. Its true we need to support each other. respect each other. Pretty simple stuff like we learned in kindergarten. Namaste, ibzahp
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Post by glennb on Jun 19, 2010 21:22:15 GMT -5
Sounds like a professional hired gun brought the thing down. Those super pesky types who seem to have nothing better to do than ridicule others and stir up s... almost always have an agenda and are hired guns for those wishing to just shut everyone up about it.
Best thing to do is IGNORE IGNORE IGNORE. Don't even give the blood sucking traitors the satisfaction of acknowledging their BS.
Anyway even if you reply with the best most scientifically backed up arguments in the world you will never convince them of anything because they are not posting to what ever board to have rationale conversations. Ignore!
Let them post their juvenile anal surgery footage. Such antics do not deserve one second of anybodies effort or time making a response.
these types invariably show themselves up to be the giant donkey butts they are and everybody knows it.
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Post by fritolay66 on Jun 19, 2010 23:37:18 GMT -5
Jeany,
I knew you were being patronized but I didn't realize the extent or what specifically was taking place. My gawd, I am so sorry you were treated that way. I don't know the specific poster and friskers, I had no idea you were on that board. I get so confused and can't kept dual names straight anyways. I am just frito wherever I go. I really am sorry you were treated that way. I know we don't always agree but I would hope you know I do respect and value you. I really do believe the work you do is important to us, whether it specifically applies to my petris or not. I just hope you know that. I do think you are a VIP. And I am sorry about all your lost research if that turns out to be the case.
What I can't understand, is here, our mod's can limit the access of a "flamer" or "troublemaker". Could they not do that there by tagging their IP's?
Friskers, I think you mentioned something about Franky's health. I could of sworn he was in the hospital sometime recently or had some kind of a scare? I sure hope it isn't due to his health.
Glen, I am a bit niave. I just find it unfathomable that someone would try to disrupt to such an extent. For whatever agenda. I am still shaking my head at all this.
Its an awful loss. Don't get me wrong my fellow LB's, this is my home and I love it and the people here.
Frito
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Post by friskers on Jun 20, 2010 0:12:38 GMT -5
" Friskers, I think you mentioned something about Franky's health. I could of sworn he was in the hospital sometime recently or had some kind of a scare? I sure hope it isn't due to his health" No it was not me . But he did have trouble with a pinched nerve for several months that caused him a lot of pain and was absent from the board alot. There was not enough Mod help to keep things under controle. Carlas was pretty much there all by herself most of the time. Its easy to see how things got out of hand . I do hope the board comes back. Maybe people wont take it for granted anymore Fritto , it wasnt just one person causing it all. There were many many people fighting . It probably would happen here too if it werent so well moderated ;D Thanks to the admin here
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Post by jj on Jun 20, 2010 10:23:35 GMT -5
I'm sorry to see that this has happened Glen, I really don't believe a hired gun brought it down but I do understand why that could be a consideration. That conclusion tends to come up when any given site any of us frequents is down for a while. Honestly, if people wanted to disrupt by infiltration that way ............. it could happen. Just don't think that was the case with MDR. Friskie, I heard talk about aggressive selling tactics. Yes, we frown on being taken advantage of and would rather not fall victim to it. However, as a very diverse group with different needs, pleading for help and guidance, we will see, and be offered "help" and "support" in different ways and from different avenues. Why? Because we asked for it! Yes, we are very leary of "help" or support because we were abused. We don't trust like we used to because we feel vulnerable. The sad reality behind "help" & "support", whether aggressive or not ....... we need it and each and everyone of us needs to wade through the muck to find what's legitimate and meets our needs. It will cost something most of the time. I have a friend who offered me help and it cost me something. I was not held captive to what was put before me. It was my decision and mine alone. It has helped me in many ways and I was not taken advantage of. To know and even consider that this person would be persecuted for offering this help elsewhere is extremely sad. Being a moderator and in the position to have to decide whether someone offering something is trustworthy or not is a very difficult thing to discern. So many lives could be helped and so many could be abused. I, hate the thought that myself and fellow admins were in the position to have to make said decisions. Can we ever really know we are doing the right or wrong thing? You would think there was an easier way. I hope Franky is well, not stressed and not having to deal with any legal issues because of overzealous policing by some of MDRs members. IMHO, not having MDR would be a great loss. I'm sure what ever needs to take place to get it back up, will more than likely happen. This can give some some time to rethink how they help and support in that kind of environment. I wish MDR and their members the best of health and happiness. JJ
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Post by friskers on Jun 20, 2010 12:41:22 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying JJ and it is a difficult situation and i know it puts moderators in a uncomfortable postion. I dont have a problem with sales people as long as they are upfront and honest about it and hopefully have a quality product to offer and dont try to take over a whole forum with there sales talk. I agree it should be left to the admin to deal with appropriately . If you want to talk about it more privately please pm me
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Post by kammy on Jun 21, 2010 6:30:20 GMT -5
I knew it was shut down but didn't realize I was mentioned in the recent harassment, I didn't pay his name-calling much attention. I haven't been over there in a while... ignorance is bliss. I hope the site gets it together and gets back up, it helped a lot of people.
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Post by rhorn2006 on Jun 21, 2010 8:50:05 GMT -5
Has the "MRF" stopped working on stuff?? I have not heard a peep out of them in forever..
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Post by kmarie on Jun 21, 2010 23:38:53 GMT -5
I thought very highly of the MDR and the "regulars" who visited there and like so many others here have pointed out, I too hope the MDR opens up again soon!
Agree with those remarks that the MDR did help and comfort alot of people and had much valuable information for sufferers.
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Post by carla on Jun 22, 2010 13:08:20 GMT -5
I was the only moderator on MDR and until recently it was a never a problem . People who are suffering with this evil illness tend to be humbled and have more important things to worry about than insulting people. We were attacked suddenly by a pack of different people who took turns to discredit me. When a few other long term members discovered a scam going on and posted all the proof for the world to see they were attacked too . I think Glenn is completely correct about it being a deliberate take down . They can't have people being helped can they?
I won't cause trouble here by saying anymore but watch yourselves.Things are not as they seem .
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Post by bannanny on Jun 22, 2010 15:38:36 GMT -5
Sorry carla... I didn't frequent MDR but I know you all put alot of time and love into it. It makes my heart hurt that this kind of thing can happen, but it seems to me we're starting to see alot more of it lately. Even here at LB, there's been a bit too much bickering going on. But all in all, we have a very amazing close knit family here... one I hope continues to stay that way. We welcome you here too... and if whoever it was comes and tries to attack us here they're gonna be sorry! We're fighters... but we know how to fight morgs, not each other. More than anything... we know how to love and give support!
big hugs ~~ bannanny
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Post by morghunter on Jun 22, 2010 16:15:01 GMT -5
Carla, welcome to our supportive family. We will do all we can to make you feel right at home. morghunter
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Post by ANTHILL on Jun 22, 2010 17:26:43 GMT -5
I was the only moderator on MDR and until recently it was a never a problem . People who are suffering with this evil illness tend to be humbled and have more important things to worry about than insulting people. We were attacked suddenly by a pack of different people who took turns to discredit me. When a few other long term members discovered a scam going on and posted all the proof for the world to see they were attacked too . I think Glenn is completely correct about it being a deliberate take down . They can't have people being helped can they? I won't cause trouble here by saying anymore but watch yourselves.Things are not as they seem . Hi Carla Shortly after when this fourm was first started up we had a consolodated set of folks try to take us out by disrupting the fourm and discrediting admin Back then we had free posting without logging in we learned our lesson about that and now you have to log it to post and new members go to a que to wait to be googled to see if they have caused trouble elswhere on the net in which case we dont ok their membership trouble makers most times are givin a warning if they persist they get banned it was quite the rude learning curve at first but this is the foumula that we found that works well for us and got rid of the trolls but sometimes I make a mistake and let a troll in but they are easly gotten rid of with the closed fourm Are you guys going to try again with the MDR fourm? I think it would be a good thing if you could manage it
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