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Post by friskers on Jun 27, 2010 14:17:16 GMT -5
unfortunetley Jane there seems to always be someone on the morgellons boards who thinks they have all the answers and if you question them or offer other ideas they become hostile. I found it best just to not say anything and realize these people are usually inflexable IMO I wasnt there to see the blow out so I wont comment ;D
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Post by kammy on Jun 27, 2010 22:43:51 GMT -5
Kammy, I don't think Friskers meant "the entire internet being shut down" ;D..that would be as kooky as shutting off the telephone service or TV. I think (hi Friskers she's talking about the MDR site (possibly/maybe) ONLY being closed down temporarily... and then "maybe" being started back up BUT with changes. Oh no, Toni, I just saw where that bill got passed in Congress, they are going to put America behind an 'iron curtain', it looks like? I personally think the minute Cuba gets a little oily water, the Internet is off! I can't see those other nice folks from MDR coming over here since the Internet probably won't be up long... I don't even think they voted on it, it was just passed like a few other things lately. It was in one of those Williams' videos about how the rich never meant to give the 'little people' anything for 'free', they needed to figure out how to tax it and control it more, etc. It worries me to think what might be happening back home with my family there... and of course, this 'family' too... if it gets blocked out. I wonder if that bill included cell phones? Internet kill switch plan approved news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch-plan-approved-by-us-senate/?olo=rss
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Post by kmarie on Jun 28, 2010 0:22:29 GMT -5
Kammy,
The website you posted is not a government site and was only the opinion of that particular author who (to me) was practicing fear mongering.
Whenever I want to know for certain what is in a Bill, I go directly to the government web site and read the whole Bill carefully for myself.
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As Friskers originally posted, she was referring to the MDR being temporarily closed and not the entire internet.
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Post by kammy on Jun 28, 2010 4:56:09 GMT -5
I pulled it up in 3 different places but not the gov., are they still giving us that information? I see pages on it but not the official site and YouTubes - and one with Lieberman telling us 'not to worry, it's nothing' ... does anyone know how to look?
Of course, we know Bill Gates is a Bilderberger... so - we can guess what that might mean?
I just saw this... "Hitting the Kill Switch on the Internet would destroy the economy like one hundred 9-11s"... yes, it would, another way to take America more to her knees.
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Post by kammy on Jun 28, 2010 5:28:41 GMT -5
Being over here, I get the idea that America's reputation has been 'slammed' to the people of the world over the years, quite a systematic campaign that's been happening behind our backs. World, it's not the people of America who are mean-spirited, it's those working to manipulate our government, and our government into doing things that the people don't necessarily approve nor understand. You can see that we lost control in the 30's, that we've had a figurehead in place all this time? Over these 80 years, we've been systematically drained of our wealth and our country is being destroyed, you are witnessing it. Jo, Carla - most of the people of America are good-natured and a God-loving people, it's just the sociopaths, which is typical of all government leaderships, that have risen to the top to control things that have lead us all to ruin. Has the British press painted us negatively over the years?
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Post by toni on Jun 28, 2010 6:35:36 GMT -5
Kammy, I don't think Friskers meant "the entire internet being shut down" ;D..that would be as kooky as shutting off the telephone service or TV. I think (hi Friskers she's talking about the MDR site (possibly/maybe) ONLY being closed down temporarily... and then "maybe" being started back up BUT with changes. Oh no, Toni, I just saw where that bill got passed in Congress, they are going to put America behind an 'iron curtain', it looks like? I personally think the minute Cuba gets a little oily water, the Internet is off! I can't see those other nice folks from MDR coming over here since the Internet probably won't be up long... I don't even think they voted on it, it was just passed like a few other things lately. It was in one of those Williams' videos about how the rich never meant to give the 'little people' anything for 'free', they needed to figure out how to tax it and control it more, etc. It worries me to think what might be happening back home with my family there... and of course, this 'family' too... if it gets blocked out. I wonder if that bill included cell phones? Internet kill switch plan approved news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch-plan-approved-by-us-senate/?olo=rssKammy, the MDR as we are understanding it (may only be closed down temporarily) until changes are made, hope that makes sense. PS, Friskers thank you.
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Post by lilsissy on Jun 28, 2010 13:37:40 GMT -5
Why is everyone fighting lately?
I feel that when someone comes here to insult it is usually pretty obvious especially after a number of them occur, it is a planned attack and should be stopped. Some authors who do this may be newbies or old plants that is not important really . Insulting phrases that are repeated are from those who want to disrupt or shut down a thread. A simple suggestion is to ask the person to start their own thread with their own views and to disagree with each other in a manner that focuses on the subject matter not the author.
I don't agree with everyone and certainly do not expect agreement from anyone. I look at everyone ideas and findings . This is how I get my path and you all know there is so many different findings that the scope of Morgellons is very large. I contribute and form my opinions from what I learn here after looking at Morgellons from the whole group. I read far more threads than I post on. I may agree with some or part or whole but I remember that the author is a human and respect is first . Also there are times that the author may not be clearly putting forth their true intent or shall we say misconstrued. It is pretty clear when one comes here to disrespect as the attack the author when they disagree with them.
I try to ignore to but there comes a point when it is obvious that the attack is mean to shut down the thread because one is getting to close to the truth.
Constructive criticism is easily identified from techniques to label. Constructive criticism tagets the subject matter or the train of thought. Blatant character assassination should be stopped as this is usually the work of a disturbed individual or a hired troll.
Jen
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Post by jj on Jun 28, 2010 14:12:00 GMT -5
Why is everyone fighting lately? I feel that when someone comes here to insult it is usually pretty obvious especially after a number of them occur, it is a planned attack and should be stopped. Some authors who do this may be newbies or old plants that is not important really . Insulting phrases that are repeated are from those who want to disrupt or shut down a thread. A simple suggestion is to ask the person to start their own thread with their own views and to disagree with each other in a manner that focuses on the subject matter not the author. I don't agree with everyone and certainly do not expect agreement from anyone. I look at everyone ideas and findings . This is how I get my path and you all know there is so many different findings that the scope of Morgellons is very large. I contribute and form my opinions from what I learn here after looking at Morgellons from the whole group. I read far more threads than I post on. I may agree with some or part or whole but I remember that the author is a human and respect is first . Also there are times that the author may not be clearly putting forth their true intent or shall we say misconstrued. It is pretty clear when one comes here to disrespect as the attack the author when they disagree with them. I try to ignore to but there comes a point when it is obvious that the attack is mean to shut down the thread because one is getting to close to the truth. Constructive criticism is easily identified from techniques to label. Constructive criticism tagets the subject matter or the train of thought. Blatant character assassination should be stopped as this is usually the work of a disturbed individual or a hired troll. Jen Jen, It would be best if you dropped this subject please. This is NOT supportive and certainly has nothing to do with Morgellons. This is my last request. Thank you. Kammy, MDR closing down temporarily has nothing to do with the internet closing. Please address this on topic and with continued support for our fellow advocates. JJ
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Post by kammy on Jun 29, 2010 4:01:48 GMT -5
I personally don't think anything is going to be back to the way we used to know it, how could it with all our rights being stripped away, etc.? Hi Jen, you doing ok? Where did Carla and Jo, go - how's Great Britain doing, I'm not mentioning the soccer game...
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Post by carla on Jul 1, 2010 14:14:44 GMT -5
I ve been busy moving home . Ive escaped an evil ex and loads of evil fungus in the space of a week. It looks like MDR has disappeared forever though. Pity the Disinfo/Distraction Agents won.
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Post by fritolay66 on Jul 1, 2010 21:20:14 GMT -5
Wow Carla, your current situation sounds very familar to one I had a couple of years ago. Except he wasn't my boyfriend, just a roomate. A godawful abusive, controlling roomate. It was actually Jen whom helped me get out of that one. heavy sigh.
Anywho, I am very glad you are out from under and out of the mold. When I got out, I had a huge leap in the right direction.
If it was anything like my own situation, you will just love being out from under it all and on your own. I am still thankful and going on two years.
Hugs.
Frito
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Post by kmarie on Jul 2, 2010 15:28:54 GMT -5
I ve been busy moving home . Ive escaped an evil ex and loads of evil fungus in the space of a week. It looks like MDR has disappeared forever though. Pity the Disinfo/Distraction Agents won. Hi Carla, Did Franky give any reasons for choosing to close the MDR? Thanks, and it is very sad to hear this is the decision that was made to close the MDR. MDR was like no other and such a comfort to so many people. This choice to close MDR will be a great loss. Kmarie
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Post by carla on Jul 3, 2010 18:13:49 GMT -5
Thanks Fritolay.Your right . I 'm loving being on my own . I am enjoying the simple things like spending all day at my Mums if I want without being called names.
Kmarie,It looks like Franky paid MDRs domain fee at the last minute because its back up now. He didn't let me know what he plans to do because he knew I'd had enough.I didn't enjoy moderating anymore. He asked me to stay a while longer and banned a few of the people attacking me but more always appeared. A few of them made threats and comments that made me very paranoid. Being the only moderator of a big Morgellons Forum and saying I got well once I stopped eating the processed GM foods did not make me popular. I would never want to put myself in that position again .
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Post by friskers on Jul 4, 2010 17:56:15 GMT -5
Bless your heart Carla for staying anyway even though you did not want to and Im very sorry you had to put up with threats and harrassment from members there. Alo of people dont realize the sacrifices moderators make just to keep a board peaceful and running . its usually a non paid job with little appreciation and alot of headache .(seems to me anyway) Be kind and respect board moderators! They deserve it! Also it seems a good time to reflect on the fact that any board could go down at any time . This is the 3rd one Ive seen go down , so appreciate the gift that they are because they may not be here forever.
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Post by skylark99 on Jul 5, 2010 6:53:39 GMT -5
As of Monday July 5, 2010 at 12:54 pm, the MDR forum seems to still be down.
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Post by janedoe on Jul 8, 2010 0:40:15 GMT -5
MDR a snooping site, i remember looking at the 'whos online' a few times, and maybe 3 members, 3 guests, and 3 PAGES of MSNbot, spideer, etc.. is that what you mean? can you tell if there are 'info snoopers' that way? becasue thats one way computers get viruses, or am i confusing a few things here...? see, my computers had lots of hacks and email securtiy breaches, ( long before MDR forum, i dont blame them) and im learning to look for stuff like that, thats why i ask...
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Post by carla on Jul 8, 2010 7:43:09 GMT -5
I don't think its a snooping site Jane. Site owners use the Googlebot and yahoo search things to keep them on top in Internet search results . But the Government does own Google and Yahoo and I think they use them to pick up on certain words so they can send disinfo agents in when we are getting near the truth. In MDR s case I think it was the scams we were discovering and the GM foods connections. I don't think Franky would have been aware of this though. A scary thing happened once.I looked who was online and one of the Googlebots was reading my private messages .
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Post by janedoe on Jul 9, 2010 0:22:04 GMT -5
reading your private msgs? thats messed up! i understand about keeping their names on top of a search engine, that would make sense.thanks for answering me, you never know till ya ask, right? i have definatly heard of 'keywords' that flag the gov, do you remember a while back, this teenage girl put up on her myspace page something to the effect of harming the president? she was being a typical highschool dork posting a page that get noticed, well, it got noticed alright. the gov came to her school dragged her out of class, the works!! can you imagine? she wasnt threatning the president in anyway, but theys ure took it like she did... oh, one time on AOL IM, my nefew in bakersfield was babysitting his neices, and joking around told his buddy IM that it was time for him to go beat the kids.. totally joking of course, but the cops were at his door within half hour.. they canceled AOL the next day...
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Post by jj on Jul 26, 2010 15:06:21 GMT -5
Well ............... this sounds good.
"MDR will make a return to its roots. Stay Tuned!!"
I don't believe googlebots can access private message systems. If I understand what bots are for, wouldn't that mean we would be able to access private messages by using google search?
Carla, Franky should know what is accessing what on his website in most all cases. Everyone has access to "who's online" on MDR right? Maybe there is an open link to a function on your board other than "your private messages" that the bot is accessing? Like a link in board FAQ's ........ something like that? If there was a legal or illegal infiltration I don't think you would be able to tell just by checking who's online.
Well, hope we see MDR return to it's roots soon. JJ
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Post by kmarie on Jul 26, 2010 18:33:42 GMT -5
Good news!
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