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Post by freakydeak on Apr 6, 2012 0:16:09 GMT -5
Is it possible to go to an allergy specialist? I think I have too much mold. How much mold do y'all have? It's in my face, my neck, under my ears, in my arms. It weights them down. It's in my legs. They're deformed. It's in the back of my knees, big wads, & in my ankles, & my stomach is an inch or two higher on one side than it is on the other. It's also in my back, & that hurts. I have all these irregular lines that go to my spine. My neck is way better than it used to be. It was totally deformed, & now it just hangs down a little, but way too much for me. I just scrape the mold off under my neck with my fingernails. Like gross out. I sent in my petri dish, & they reported back to me 3 different kinds of molds so bizarre that no dr. would believe them, so that's of no value. My dr. believes my legs are fine. One knee hangs down lower than the other. Get real. I need feedback, least I may go Wacko.
Thank you for your time, and interest in the never ending saga of freaky
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Post by bb on Apr 6, 2012 10:15:11 GMT -5
freakydeak, Have you tried bathing with vinegar? I love it. For a short time, I was out of the vinegar and went back to epsom salt, but began hurting all over. I got more vinegar and in just a couple of days, no more muscle and joint pain. It keeps the morgs symptoms way down, and I believe it would help this "mold" thing you've got going on, which is probably morgs too.
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Post by freakydeak on Apr 7, 2012 2:24:51 GMT -5
Hi ya bb. Long time no bb. Missed you. Well, sounds like I could use that. Today I was in mega pain. Don't you use baking soda with your vinegar? I was told to use a lb./box. Yes there's plenty parasites stuck in the white mold.
Love, freaky
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Post by toni on Apr 7, 2012 9:24:43 GMT -5
I read several things early this morning about (cornmeal) and how soaking ones feet in warm water with the cornmeal also rid fungal infections, if it was done daily. The cornmeal has to soak first in a jar of warm water to release it's "goodies". Then add that juice or the whole jar of "corn meal juice and corn meal" to your bath water and soak daily to rid skin fungus. I've never tried it, but I liked what I read, and it also said one can make a poultice out of the corn meal, with (milk) of all things and apply that also to areas of concern, (scalp or skin). It's not instant, so it's got to be done daily to kill fungi.
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Post by Harry on Apr 7, 2012 13:46:58 GMT -5
You're welcome itchen. I was too involved with my pain issue to think of anything but pain issues. Harry, when you're free, please clue me in on the virgin oil. I looked around, & couldn't find where you were discussing it. BAm, I'd have to say, it is the condition of things as to whether one's feet become happy, or one becomes wellish, & not sleepy. M. thistle does not relieve the zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's It's a good omen though. Bam bam, I've pulled out wiggling things, but by the time they get out, they don't wiggle anymore. Just wondering, have you ever looked at your eye matter? I'm not sure what that question is all about, but I presently have the zzzzzzzzzzz's. Z ya real soon. Hi Freaky I get it at Trader Joe's for almost $6.00 for 1 pound it's also very good to cook with seeing it has good fat for the good cholesterol & it's very good for the skin, if you need more info. send me a pm message, be well www.traderjoes.com/index.asp
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Post by Harry on Apr 7, 2012 13:57:09 GMT -5
Here is what I have to say about F-6 or actually now f-8, I seem to see that you do not have to take it continuously, I am going three days on and three days off. If your seeing to many results from this amount, let the results of treatment heal up and then do it again. Here is what I think, I believe that these hidden lesions have a orifice yes lets call it a mouth, the mouth is in the vein that feeds the hidden material under skin. This orifice is not one that quickly opens or closes, remember now, this is a IDEA, I am not writing this in stone, there is NO STONE next to me, I am not a stoner, stones are for angry religious groups,......... ANYWAY. If you keep at the hidden mass this orifice will break down and start to dissolve over time, this is better than all at once, we do know how exposed lesions look. I have seen that the area of the HIDDEN under skin lesion will become red, then at times they will open, to bash them real hard I use hydrogen peroxide 35%, that will show the whole involvement and for the most part have it wanting to cover itself back over with fake skin. I do not like the part about a lesion being exposed, then that's the way it goes. I do everything I can to disrupt its cozy living area and get excellent result from it. I do not like the hydrogen peroxide as it hurts like holy hell, but it always brings on the best results in time. NO PAIN NO GAIN that's the way my life has always been. hey Bam something to think about, please view the whole Video this is from a Doctor on my F B page youtu.be/FFeHIXGT0To be well & take care Bam, she uses I believe food grade peroxide 35% listen to what she says 3/4 way through the video, she says she healed herself, let me know what yuo think, thank you youtu.be/FFeHIXGT0To
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Post by Harry on Apr 7, 2012 14:04:08 GMT -5
Hi Homeland, the C D C study was a farce and bad joke just to satisfy the politics to hide the truth, to call this disease merely unexplained dermopathy a skin problem, this study was set up to fail from the start & we all know it
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Post by bb on Apr 7, 2012 16:53:17 GMT -5
freakydeak,
You use a large box of baking soda with a hand full of epsom salt for detoxing. I've done that and it is wonderful.
For everyday morg maintenance I bathe in vinegar. I love the yeast enzymes but it too expensive. The epsom salt helps but the vinegar helps more. When I have more crawling I use the Sulfur8 shampoo. Yep, I spend a lot of time in the tub. I had a TV in there but it broke.
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Post by freakydeak on Apr 8, 2012 2:45:26 GMT -5
Thanks bb. Do you use the unfiltered, or white vinegar? Do you ever put salt in with the vinegar? These questions sound pretty dumb, but I use so much stuff, that they could have bad effects as well, & v'e been slightly confused as of late.
Thanks tony for that tid bit of info. Sounds a little corney. hahaha Just kidding. Everything is worth a try.
Boy, I've really been complaining. Excuse me y'all.
Actually I have more to even complain about , but I have to get up early for the Easter bunny. My face is so bad though I may not get to go play with him. Boo hoo. Hi bambam. I'll feel better with one more dance with our happy feet. Maybe they can help spread the word.(somehow)
Happy feet, & bunnies, probably a good day for chem trails, so be on the watch. Don't let your lesions ooze out on your grand kids. Be tidy. I am in the worst state yet, not TX, my face.No way I'm going to bitch before the Ester Bunny comes.
knock knock You~~who is there? bunny You~~ bunny who? The ester bunny...... knock knock You~~whose there? another You, with the unexplained dermopathy...... another who? another ester bunny
knock knock you~~whose there? some Revised 4/25/2012 you~~some who? some more ester bunnies Knock knock You~~Whose there Many You~~many who? many more ester bunnies
Knock knock You ~~Whose there? Ester You~~ ester who? Ester anyone getting as board with this joke as I am? I'm going to bed . Nite.
Revised 4-25-2012 The words that need to be deleted aren't on the modified version, but they appear on the tread so they can't be modified. Understand that? Maybe my computer is ill. I don't get it.
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Post by bb on Apr 8, 2012 22:45:20 GMT -5
Do you use the unfiltered, or white vinegar? Do you ever put salt in with the vinegar? I'm using white vinegar because it is cheaper than the apple cider vinegar which I prefer. Yes, I've added the epsom salt with the vinegar, makes me feel like a pickle... LOL OH! The vinegar helps with the all over aches and pains too.
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Post by Administration on Apr 9, 2012 8:00:55 GMT -5
Do you use the unfiltered, or white vinegar? Do you ever put salt in with the vinegar? Yes, I've added the epsom salt with the vinegar, makes me feel like a pickle... LOL I wanna be a pickle ;D
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Post by imblownaway on Apr 12, 2012 14:16:59 GMT -5
Ah Ant.. Now you went and did it. This song is stuck in my head now till I hear it. ;D The Motorcycle Song ( the Significance Of The Pickle) Performed by Arlo Guthrie I don’t want a pickle I just want to ride on my motor-cicle And I don’t want a tickle I’d rather ride on my motor-cicle And I don’t want to die I just want to ride on my motor-cy-cle (its a really long song or It post it here) www.youtube.com/watch?v=g266Uwp6ZnI ;D -----------------------------------------
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Post by homeworld on Apr 12, 2012 21:05:24 GMT -5
...Arlo Guthrie's pickle ballad..
got to listen to this every day..endlessly looping..for weeks on the mess deck of a submarine. Every "morning"..[not that there is such a thing as "morning" on a sub, but whenever the "traditional breakfast" fare of eggs and SOS * were served..Arlo would be crooning about pickles and motorcycles..or Alice's Restaurant.. Someone's idea of cruel fun...[until someone stole the tape..and saved everyone's sanity] The song..embedded..permanently...it's..part of me now.
*SOS? chipped beef on toast..only no one EVER called it that. ..it's.."stuff" on a shingle. SOS. capice?
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Post by bb on Apr 13, 2012 5:50:49 GMT -5
Hey, Anthill! ;D
I like your post: "There's a point where you stop dealing and start healing."
I have come a long way, not only with the many therapies that I do to manage this, but also I've gotten UP and started living my life. I'm chasing grandchildren, hiking, and doing yard work.
I put in 18 hours since Sunday morning on my Mother's yard, and going back today to do more. I chased grandkids Tuesday and Wednesday, and went to my one-day-a-week job on Thursday.
I finally said it outloud "I can't be sick and feel this good!"
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Post by Administration on Apr 14, 2012 7:23:14 GMT -5
Hey, Anthill! ;D I like your post: "There's a point where you stop dealing and start healing." I have come a long way, not only with the many therapies that I do to manage this, but also I've gotten UP and started living my life. I'm chasing grandchildren, hiking, and doing yard work. I put in 18 hours since Sunday morning on my Mother's yard, and going back today to do more. I chased grandkids Tuesday and Wednesday, and went to my one-day-a-week job on Thursday. I finally said it outloud "I can't be sick and feel this good!" Thanks BB- "Stop dealing and start healing" Has really become my motto I try to do the things I love to do despite the morges boating fishing and tinkering in the tractor shed --Its a darn sight better than where I used to be afraid to do anything sitting in a no carpeted area on a wooden chair that I can wash overwhelmed by everything morgellons is Its good to hear that your healing too and getting back into life t(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Administration on Apr 14, 2012 7:27:56 GMT -5
Ah Ant.. Now you went and did it. This song is stuck in my head now till I hear it. ;D The Motorcycle Song ( the Significance Of The Pickle) Performed by Arlo Guthrie I don’t want a pickle I just want to ride on my motor-cicle And I don’t want a tickle I’d rather ride on my motor-cicle And I don’t want to die I just want to ride on my motor-cy-cle (its a really long song or It post it here) www.youtube.com/watch?v=g266Uwp6ZnI ;D ----------------------------------------- Hi' imblownaway I love that song (•‿•)
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Post by Administration on Apr 16, 2012 9:00:47 GMT -5
Oh' Pickles! ಠ▃ಠ Some folks like to wear blinders and thrive on contriving horseshit -I wish I could please everyone but I can't so I won't stress it ¯\(°_o)/¯
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Post by Lynn on Apr 18, 2012 10:16:49 GMT -5
Hi all
Does anyone know how Gorden is doing? I have been thinking about him and wondered if he made it back out of the hospital. If he becomes to ill does he have someone to make the F series of his formulas? Thank you for anyone who knows.
TorpedoLynn
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Post by Lynn on Apr 18, 2012 10:20:24 GMT -5
Hey Ant
I deleted my post when I realized the thread was derailed. Maybe have everyone move the non-F topics to another title please. That way others who want to know about Gorden's formulas can easier find the info. Thank you.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by xiblanque on Apr 18, 2012 13:02:42 GMT -5
This info is from my blog Morgellons Aid morgellonsaid.wordpress.com/topical-treatments-2/enzymes-skin/THIS IS NOT GORDON STAMP'S RECIPE. You can skip down to the yellow texted part of this post for an effective homemade enzyme recipe. I use this topically and compared to Kleen Green ($70 for eight gallons diluted) I can make about 15 - 20 gallons for less than a dollar a gallon. It's very effective at breaking down and controlling the issues that arise in lesions. It stops itching and biting almost immediately. The only drawback is that it takes a lot of time to complete the recipe... 2 - 3 months. Just thought I would share it here. Xib Enzymes Certain enzymes are very useful topically in curbing the Morgellons symptoms. Protease, cellulase, papain and chitinase especially seem effective in breaking down cellulose and chitin. Cellulose is a product that results from fungal overgrowth and chitin is the material that arthropods produce in their exoskeletons.It is also the material some fungi use in their cell walls instead of cellulose. The enzymes stop the growth process of these materials. Enzyme products come in ready to use and concentrated forms. The concentrated enzymes are much more economical. Some brands that are effective • Kleen Green • Eco-vie • Bug Arrest •Digest Plus (not to be used on person) •Out! Using Enzymes in The Bath These products are available in a ready to use dilution or a concentrated form that must be diluted. Of course the concentrates are more economical as they dilute down to a 1:7 ratio. Enzymes may be added to bath treatments at about 4 oz – 8 oz depending on whether it is a small amount of water or a very full tub. I have found that adding a cup of Baking soda and a cup of vinegar along with 10 – 20 drops of Thieves’ Oil or your favorite essential oil makes for a very effective skin treatment. After bathing it is better to air dry one’s self then with a spray bottle apply a light misting of diluted enzymes to the skin and allow this to also air dry. Read more at Baths. morgellonsaid.wordpress.com/topical-treatments-2/bath-skin-treatment/ Enzyme Topically This treatment is one that provides immediate relief of Morgellons symptoms such as itching, crawling and “biting” sensations. It is one of the best weapons in one’s arsenal against Morgellons. I have used this treatment on those nights ( a memory for me now) when I felt as if I had laid down in a bed of fire ants. Enzymes are so effective on insects that they can be sprayed on roaches, flies and ants with immediate results. I have also used enzymes applied to small outbreaks and lesions to stop them from spreading and to aid in healing. To use enzymes in a spray bottle I recommend a larger spray bottle for general use and a small personal size one to keep by the bedside for night-time or for when traveling. Nothing stops the stinging sensation quite so quickly as enzymes. This treatment should become very valuable when one first starts treating Morgellons symptoms. Spray Bottle Method Simply fill a clean 32 oz spray bottle with 4 oz of Enzymes and fill with clean filtered water. The ratio is 1 part enzyme to 7 parts water. This is the reason that an “expensive” gallon of concentrated enzyme is much more cost-effective than the ready to use dilutions being sold. The one gallon concentrate will dilute down to over eight gallons. Warning: Using enzymes to treat “mysterious biting mites” and other pathogens including fungi is an excellent treatment. However, enzymes are produced by a non-pathogenic bacteria and are safe when applied to clean unbroken skin. Do not use in eyes or open, weeping lesions. However it is excellent in bad Morgie’s ears and around the nostril. For Your Environment These dilutions of enzymes in spray bottles are excellent to use on bedding, furniture, in cars, on floorboards and walls and just about anyplace that seems to harbor these pathogens. Enzyme Recipes There are easy to do recipes for the home fermentation of enzymes. These are highly recommended as the price to produce is 120 times less per gallon than the ready to use enzymes. The only draw back is the time involved in fermenting which is 2 to 3 months. Baker’s Yeast or Brewers yeast can be added to speed up the fermentation time. I recommend a 1/4 teaspoon per gallon. This may cause the need to release the built up gases from the mixture on an as needed basis (1-3 times per day for the first week or two) while active fermentation is taking place. Do not use until the fermentation process in the enzyme liquid has been completed. No more off-gassing and no more froth/bubbles on the surface. The liquid will not be sweet and should become somewhat clear. You must wait until the sugars are metabolized completely and sediment in the solution will clear. Home-made Enzyme Recipe I use the half cube 2 & 1/2 gallon water containers with wide lids on top and a smaller lid on the side for the spigot. I also suggest using botanical material in this mix. Oranges, limes, lemons and apples. Adding peelings from papaya fruit would be an excellent choice for the papain. Organic pineapple is another good choice with the bromalain. Chopped fresh herbs such as oregano or basil and other medicinal herbs with antimicrobial and antiseptic qualities would also be beneficial including herbal teas and blends. Eucalyptus leaves or Echinacea flowers are more great choices. Even bits of cinnamon sticks would be medicinal. Materials & Ingredients
•Large 2 & 1/2 Gallon water container •Large novelty punch balloon •2 – 4 lbs fruit ( see above recommendations) •1/4 lb of Herbs or other botanicals (see above recommendations) •16 oz of Raw Honey (preferably Manuka honey) or 32 oz raw sugar •1 packet brewers or bakers yeast •2 gallons of filtered water Directions
1.Wash and air dry the 2 1/2 gallon container. Unscrew the small spigot and save for later use. Attach large punch ball balloon over the small spigot hole. Unscrew the larger 4 inch lid on the side.
2.Wash and clean all fruits and finely chop along with other botanicals.
3.Put a 2 inch layer of fruit and herbs in container. Cover this layer with honey or sugar (maybe a half-inch of sugar and less of honey). Repeat this process until out of fruit or until container is half full.
4.Add two gallons of filtered water. Leave at least 6 inches of air in the container. Add 1/2 teaspoon of yeast to speed up fermentation time.
5.Put large lid back on and shake to wet down all ingredients. Water should cover all ingredients. The balloon is now the top of the container. Set aside and check daily for the first two weeks. The fermentation will result in gasses that may need to be bled off. Tilt container away from large lid and carefully unscrew to vent.
6.Once the sediment has cleared and there are no bubbles the enzymes are ready. This may be as short as one month but may be as long as two months. Use cheesecloth to strain and rebottle. No refrigeration needed. Dilute 1:7 with water before using. Or add 4 oz to bath undiluted. NOTE: Use a 3-1 ratio. This means 3 parts fruit to 1 part sugar or Manuka honey if available. Consumption Drink the enzyme an hour prior to eating to stimulate your nerves and promote blood circulation by placing a tablespoon of the enzyme under your tongue and swallowing. I strongly suggest starting a batch of enzymes when you first order a commercially prepared enzymes. Your batch will be complete about the time you run out of the enzymes you’ve bought. For as little as $8 dollars and 20 minutes (plus fermentation time) I have produced 3 gallons of concentrated (25 diluted gallons) of enzymes. It is very simple to do. Homemade Body Spray I have used this recipe in a pinch, when out of enzymes or waiting for an online purchase to be delivered. It is effective enough and easy to make. It involves many of the ingredients that you should have in stock in your cupboard. •1 cup hydrogen peroxide (3% household variety) •1/ 8 cup salt (table salt or espom salt) •1 cup Borax •2c hot water (optional substitute one cup of water with vinegar) •A few drops of Essential Oil (optional but helpful… especially Lavander or Peppermint) Add all ingredients to an empty one quart spray bottle. Shake and let Borax and salt dissolve. Shake often. Works for fleas, animal mange, mites, Lyme Disease. I have substituted vinegar for one of the cups of hot water before also. Spray on skin and amd allow to air dry up to three times a day. For the cleaning the house I sometimes add essential oil of teatree, eucalyptus, etc. Wolfe/Xib
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