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Post by freakydeak on Apr 28, 2012 23:55:40 GMT -5
Bambam, you never answer my questions. Here's a 2nd chance, please. Gordon never told me about any pills. All he had was the bottle of powder. Is he making that up in pill form, or is he selling something else I should have?
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Post by Baraka Obam on Apr 29, 2012 1:11:52 GMT -5
They do have a pill, I have them. You may ask them the difference, if it is just the capsul I can make my own.
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Post by Ayla on Apr 29, 2012 18:54:21 GMT -5
Hey Ankle Fester/Xib/Wolfie! Thanks for the link on garbage enzymes. I forgot to check back in. Definitely going to try them. Yeah, still don't understand the push ball (or pull ball?), but that's okay. Doesn't look like it's needed. I'm cool just letting the air escape.
Much love for all you do and who you are! Ayla
Freakdeak, Gordon has a pill which I believe is different than the powdered formula used for spraying on the skin. You should probably talk to him about it. I'd try calling intermittently to see if you can catch him in. Don't know what is wrong with him, but heard he's doing much better.
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Post by freakydeak on Apr 30, 2012 19:52:43 GMT -5
Ah, thanks so much morgticia for the info., you sweetheart. I'm really happy to know Gordon's much better, too.
Get well quick, freakydeaky
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Post by freakydeak on May 1, 2012 0:33:11 GMT -5
Went the Big Island place, & I got the impression the pills are the powder in the jar capped. They are just giving you an option. If you don't have the $199, then you can get 30 pills for $50. You guys are silly. I thinkk you probably get more for your money buying the jar. Just trying to be helpful, freaky
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Post by Ayla on May 1, 2012 18:10:19 GMT -5
Freaky, The difference between the pills and the powder is EDTA a chelating agent (in the pills). Gordon just confirmed. Hope that helps.
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Post by freakydeak on May 3, 2012 5:01:37 GMT -5
Oops. I best be getting some EDTA. Thank you, & sorry I got that wrong.\
Hugs, freaky
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Post by Harry on May 3, 2012 14:43:28 GMT -5
Hi Harry Doing much better so I gave up trying to see a doc for the ear infections. Bugs are still trying to move in and that is a worry, because it means trying to flush them out and that means constant wet inner ears and more ear infections. So weird because when my ears are real good and bugs go in and if there is many the biting will close up my ear before any infection. Lately its just like one or two bugs in the ears with little biting and the wet inner ear with the biting is causing an infection. I had it just about licked by not wearing the ear plugs at night to let them dry out and using a blow dryer on them. But last night had some bugs crawl in so I woke up with digging, biting and movement in the ears. Had to peroxide them and that slowed them and made them go deeper. Then I had to TKO orange them. Very weak solution. Then Alkalol them and eventually a few drops of extra Virgin Organic Olive oil. New event that has not happen in a few years is the eyes pulsing. Bottom eye lid to be more exact. Just nerve flipping real light off and on all day yesterday. Last night a white goo. Like when you are ill and your eyes seep white soft goo. I did a sea salt soak right away and it brought up more hidden goo. I use cold water in an eye cup with 1/2 tsp of sea salt. I do some eye exercises into the eye cup face down and switch. Really helps. Right before the total bug out break my eyes did this twitching and the goo seepage. Eventually it turned into a horror show of bio film crusted so thick around the eyes I was blinded and as you all know water hardly breaks down that stuff. I used the facet for lots of steam and then slowly and carefully worked the stuff off till I could see. It was so bad thought it was frightening and took some resolve to stay calm. That happen for over a month right before the total body outbreak of bugs head to toe. Back then I had thought it was just allergies gone haywire. But then I have heard a small hand full of others at the beginning of their full outbreak go through the exact same thing. So now I take that as a siren call that things are going south and I need to battle hard now before the take over happens. I know that the reason for all this is I have had to slack off of vitamins and herbs. That was keeping Morgellons low key. For a short time I thought it was going to be fine. Especially sense I use to take over 26 supplements and have it down to half of that and was staying low key Morgellons. So now I am going to have to buckle down and try to fight hard to kill this dang disease. A body can not fight like this forever at my age and not expect consequences in the end. Shutter to think of my life in older age taken over by this stuff. Well I hope you can detox the lungs somehow and help you with this. I had a friend who was able to get her lungs cleared but it took her some work. Do you want me to find out how. I can not remember right off how right now. Gotta run. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn Glad you doing better Lynn with the ear problem, I had my right ear that had a constant small lesion with painful fibers then I used the F product with coconut oil & that seemed to help to a point after a while it wasn't a problem but the skin in that ear still gets a bit dry now & again, bio film crusted ahhh that must have been what I was trying to say t y. I've had that eye lid flutter weird isn't it?, oh the ear I mentioned is my phone ear & it does get watery while on the phone sometimes & when I sleep cause that's the side I sleep on also, it's a miner problem once & a while now. The crusted stuff in the eye I haven't had that for a long time Lynn but remember it well Bless you & hope it goes away soon, mine slowly cleared thank goodness. ( 26 supplements ) ya think that's enough? he he sorry just messing round Lynn, the lungs are clearing I'm taking Bactrim D/D - t y, be well & Hugs
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Post by Lynn on May 4, 2012 1:30:12 GMT -5
Hi Doc
Yeah 26 supplements. Really had to do that to kill certain aspects of the disease. I started with just a few and work slowly up to certain items and the as each 3 month detox was over I would keep a maintenance dose. Then once I got to a certain point I slowly started dropping some items. Went by gut feeling as to what the body needed a break from. I am down to 16 now all on maintenance. Every time I tried to drop any of them I would start to have worse Morgellons issues.
It is a mess really, but the only thing that kept me alive. I finally gave up coffee and seeing a mass improvement. I had some discomfort in the right ear that almost felt like biting so I did peroxide and it hissed and sounded like someone screaming. It reminds me of when plastic is burning and air gets trapped and hisses and screams. Once that died down I dumped it out of ear and put in some olive leaf for ten min. When I poured that out something came out with the olive oil. It was a tiny oval shaped bead. Looked solid. Wonder if it was a larvae Also with that came tiny piece of bio film crystallized with even tinier black fibers. Could only see the black fibers through the scope.
Been pretty close to bug free for 2 days. I am holding my breath to see where this goes. Thank goodness the ears are almost healed. I was keeping bugs from getting into the ears with hard plastic orange ear plugs with Burt's Bees Clove lip chap on them. Glad to hear you are getting better. What a bumpy ride we all have and then life's trials and tribulations to deal with on top of that. Just not fair.
In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 4, 2012 10:52:14 GMT -5
F8 and pills, I have been using these very carefully for some time now.
I have not seen a bug connected to my itching in 40 years now, not a one.
What I have seen with F8 ENZYMES is the involvment backing off.
The ribbing inside the cheeks is almost completly gone, my ears do not react to 35% hydrogen peroxide inside or outside at all, THAT IS AMAZING.
It used to be if I waited a time after real heavy treatment they would still react again in time, now NOTHING,
mind you I AM NOT USING STORE BOUGHT BROWN BOTTLE 3% HYDROGEN PEROXIDE, it is near useless, I am using 35% FOOD GRADE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE.
35% FOOD GRADE HYDROGEN PEROXIDE will locate any hole that these fibers have come through, it will find them and burn them out, SINCE USING F8 THE 35% WILL NOT ACTIVATE at all, imagine that, somthing has changed.
I AM A NORMAL MAN THAT DOES NOT TAKE ANY PRECAUTIONS FROM BUG INFESTATION, I do not fear bugs neither do I imagine them as part of this disease.
If there was bugs I would have pictures of them for you, good pictures, you would not have to imagine anything about them because after all my time on my microscope I would have even seen them breeding by now.
After all the microscope I have done me and the bugs would be on a first name basis, I would greet them with salutations ( Hello Mrs. Worm How is Mr. Worm and all the little rug worms.
If others could provide me with pictures of bugs or parasites I will look to see if I can find them, so far nobody has.
If our issues were bugs we would have easily seen bugs in common, neither has that happened, just some bull about all bugs are after us, all bugs are able to infect us.
PROOVE IT.
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 4, 2012 13:02:14 GMT -5
Demodex mites can be a problem for people, yes they can, still they have not been seen all over the body for the most part they stay in the face, eylashes and nose.
I have seen these in nose oil glands. You can EASILY check to see if your having this kind of problem by squeezing your nose as if to remove a blackhead push in several different spots untill you see the white stuff pop out.
When the white stuff pops out use a tooth pick to harvest it and put the grease on a slide, if you have demodex they will be there in that white goo, to get the itching like ours you would have to have Demodex the size of roaches and millions of them, more than likely they would be poping out of the skin all over.
At very wrorst, you may see a person with demodex in their eyelashe hair holes, this is RARE.
If any itching or eye problems would be cause by these creatures again the eyes would be itching all the time.
I did have demodex, Do not know if they are there now, just can not say, I will check tonight when I get a chance.
Demodex are not the cause of our itching, my eyes never itched when the lashes were full of them.
My eyes are no longer afflicted.
This is a thread on the F stuff, not bugs anyway, are any of you using F stuff, hmmmm, if you are, please, lets hear what it is doing for you or against you.
I AM HAVING NOTHING BUT GOOD RESULTS FROM USING IT SLOWLY.
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Post by freakydeak on May 5, 2012 4:15:13 GMT -5
Dearest bam bam, Would you consider showing some of your pics here? I am interested because I'd like to see if they look like mine. I have a theory. Not a real good one, but it's mine. Could be that those people who have lesions that are in the inside of the skin, as opposed to the ones who have the sores on the outside didn't get a certain chemical, or whatever that made the body snatcher complete it's full cycle. As miserable as I continue to be, I feel blessed I don't have the sores. I think I've had 2 my entire morg life. Because of this, I think you may have different type specimens than I do, as your are on the outside, am I correct? I would just love to see a few pics of yours. Would you mind showing us just a few? I guess this isn't about the f stuff either. Well, I'll tell ya. In my heart, which is bigger than your toes, I think the ticket is the zapping, frankensence, & DMSO, prescription ivermectin, or horse, if you like, but I couldn't do that every night, & the f pill, & powder, & of course the milk, & flour to aide removal of them nasties. Other things might be helpful, some other herbs, vitamins, & such, but the above is my personal opinion. Please note, I am not a scientist, or a physician, just a jossie with a ticket. Kind regards, freaky
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Post by toni on May 5, 2012 11:43:28 GMT -5
The posts are gone now Harry.
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Post by freakydeak on May 5, 2012 23:32:13 GMT -5
Why would that be?
Bam bam, did you order your peroxide on the internet?
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Post by freakydeak on May 8, 2012 23:33:11 GMT -5
Not too talkative, this group.
I'll just try again.
Are you guys experiencing quick hot sweats, & then you become ice cold? I change the temp. at our house so often, it's silly.
The skin of the parasites is sticking through my skin. It's real painful, especially in the morning when I wake up, (or afternoon). ha ha It feels as though I have a hundred whiskers, but they're painful until I rub them off with flour, & milk. Now talk about habitually playing with your face, I can't quit trying to pick them out all the time. Guess I was successful in killing a s$%t load of them. Anyone experiencing this?
This year I'm real teed off at this lump on my 2nd toe. I went to a podiatrist about it, but must have mentioned morgellons, as we were getting along real well, at first. Then she told me if she operated, I may come out with half a toe, so I told her no one was going to chop off my toe. I'm putting Nair on it, the woman's facial hair remover, to get rid of the bio film. It's softer. Must have gotten some on the skin next to the bump because that's quite tender.
By the way Itchen, you silly, you deleted your video you put here, you stinker. I realized that a few days later, but until then, I thought I'd gone crazy. Don't act like I told you you had to delete your videos. I never said a thing of the sort,. It's far easier to do than undo, & you have so many, it could take you months. I wouldn't ask that of you. I know you felt I blamed you recently, but you're out of my life now, and I don't blame you for a thing, so don't accuse me, OK sweetie? Whatever you do, just do it, as long as it doesn't involve me.
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Post by freakydeak on May 9, 2012 0:20:49 GMT -5
Oh, one more thing. You take the capsuls everyday, right? or, every other day? I was wondering if I should buy 2 months supply. Thanks, if I hear from somebody. ;D
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 9, 2012 9:05:58 GMT -5
I take them all the time, one a day unless they bother me in any way then I STOP and start again when the issues are healed or gone.
It took me forty years to become this mess I think I can give it a while to die easily without killing me too.
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Post by freakydeak on May 9, 2012 23:43:34 GMT -5
Much obliged bambam. Last night I was miserable. (freaky griping again) I had so many parasites in my neck that my skin folded on top of each other. As it was all greasy too, I decided to put some D.E. on it. That really didn't make it feel any better, so I finally fell asleep. I spent all day getting them out best I could. Now I wonder. If they are draining from my head, that's cool. If they're coming from my back, which has all these lines on it, so I know they're there, & they are using my neck as a point of exit, I'm in for a big bad time. We should have a parasite expert in the group aside from bambam. (joke) haha Maybe these hot sweats are me getting better? It's not menaupause unless that lasts all your life.. that was over a decade ago. I've had 2 hots, & 2 colds, the last ten minutes. I wonder what's going on. I think I'm going to make this tread my diary. bambam, you can write in it too. Oh boy!
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Post by imblownaway on May 10, 2012 1:31:57 GMT -5
Baraka
I have a question
there are the pills for internal and the spray for external right? And you are doing both of them? If so if you had to chose between one or the other which would you chose?
I have just about given up on all the so called treatments. I appreciate you sharing your experience with this. I am having a little trouble following the thread. and would appreciate in a nutshell if its worth the money. Sounds like your seeing some good results. oh give me hope...
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Post by Baraka Obam on May 10, 2012 20:28:21 GMT -5
There is more than hope in these enzymes, as far as the external issues go, it looks like it is afflicting and dissolving the issues that we can see. I do not want you to imagine that you will be healed in a week day or month. I do not know if you will be healed per say but I will give it a thumbs up from what I have seen. Here it is in a nutshell, most all of my involvement was beaten back pretty good and I was the poster child, believe me, then that was done in the most horrid way, HYDROGEN PEROXIDE AND GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT. This was all skin stuff, not internal, my idea was destroy the lesions in their system, exposed you can get to them, ANYWAY. I knew there was issues still hidden under the skin, some times the hell of hydrogen peroxide 35% had me needing comfort before eradication, so I would let the area heal over, this left involvement that still had live material inside. NOW back to the enzymes, the enzymes almost instantly opened up these left over issues and exposed them, pushed the white plastic barrier to the surface and at times it crumbled off, other times I shaved it off and one day unseen a big piece of the plastic stuff just curled up on my face it was quite thick, it left more like a pink spot than a grizzle bleeding hole. NOW I need to make sure I can stand this current attempt to rid myself of remaining body and skin involvement WITHOUT going back to looking like a leper, I will not go through that again. Now I take the stuff internally and watch, I wait to see just what it is going to do for me and to me. Most of the spots now are all in the systemic areas, one on one side of the face another on the other, or central but they are NOT all over the place, they are not BIG they are not gross, at the most it is a pink spot, eczema like. Some was on the hands a little pink on old spots where HUGE nasty lesions were. A rash like skin area above my mustache a tiny speck in my beard. The worst aspect of it at first and for a bit of time was the flu like condition, I would take flu for the rest of my life over leper. Right now a couple of day ago the very tip of my upper lip pushed out a tiny area perfectly central I would hit it with 35% because I know for sure it do not like this, killing it or bothering it inside and killing it from the outside. I am a happy camper so far. If your looking for the magic bullet and your a quitter do not give the enzymes a bad rap, so far the results are impressive and I am going on 6 months use have been VERY good. If you can stay inside and hide you could possibly use more than I do, I use very little as I need to get around right now. These growths took a long time to build themselves up inside your body, they have replaced normal material inside and out, do not be so quick to melt it all away, you may find out that some parts of your organs you need to be repaired as the enzymes kill the involved materials. From what I have seen with the white plastic this may be whats happening.or possibly the entrance of the enzymes into the hidden lesion/TUMORS may alert the immune system of some problems in that area that were before masked by the lesion/TUMORS own hormones. This situation is not unknown in tumors, they actually make their own fluids and hormones. jcb.rupress.org/content/178/1/4.full
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