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Post by awareseattle on Jan 25, 2012 19:58:51 GMT -5
Central Disinformation Control Releases Fake Data on Morgellons Wow - I wonder why the CDC is trying so hard to hide what Morgellons actually is. They are trying to say that the fibers are common debris, such as from clothing again. Clearly, a different, more competent organization should be studying Morgellons - not the CDC. tinyurl.com/8877bbx
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Post by awareseattle on Jan 26, 2012 0:02:21 GMT -5
I wonder why it's such a big secret. Neither CDC or Mayo clinic have the ability to see that something weird is going on here. I wonder how they choose their test group of patients. Maybe it really is merely incompetence - or they might just be milking the clock.
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Post by ginna898 on Jan 26, 2012 2:37:28 GMT -5
radio.foxnews.com/2012/01/25/cdc-debunks-mystery-disease/People who think they have what’s known as Moregellons describe a horrifying ordeal that feels like bugs crawling on their body, sores oozing and fibers sprouting out of their skin. But the CDC says its exhaustive, nearly $600,000 study, focusing on complaints in northern California, mirrors the previous conclusions of Mayo Clinic researchers: no physical cause explaining the symptoms, and most of the skin lesions were from the patients own scratching. On psychological exams, the patients did show more depression than the general public, but the CDC says any further study is up to someone else.Lisa Brady, FOX News Radio.
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Post by Lynn on Jan 26, 2012 2:47:54 GMT -5
Hi Ginna
I wonder when Aids was discovered did the CDC mess that one up at the beginning of studies or were they by passed by Drs. at Universities that discovered the condition. If I remember right the Aids victims were accused of imagining their disease and picking on their self and causing sores. Now they know better. May CDC eat crow in the near future.
I knew they would not get it right. In Light Lynn/TorpedoLynn
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Post by fables on Jan 26, 2012 3:59:04 GMT -5
This study is a farce... something weird is definitely going on here. How many scientists did they have? Does any one know the patients or any person who actually did the studies? Will other Researchers start to pick this up? Has anyone had a genetic test done, I recently read this article. It is old but interesting. www.morgellonsexposed.com/nih1Q42.htm
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Post by elizabeth67 on Jan 26, 2012 7:58:32 GMT -5
Well, now my (our) chance for justice is completly f*cked!! Thanks a lot, CDC. Wankers.
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Post by lydski on Jan 26, 2012 11:13:50 GMT -5
WOW ......i guess if anyone in my family finds the results of the study i have been telling them about they will really make my life more miserable than it already is (if that is possible)...can hear it now...THERES NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU. This news is hitting me hard. the tears wont stop... Today I'm glad I don"t have that many years left on this earth...
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Post by ctbarb on Jan 26, 2012 11:59:57 GMT -5
Here's the actual article published in PloS One:http://tinyurl.com/7lxpcf4 Same day, same station, same time...Same ole crap! Well, since there are obvious "connections" with the "partners" of this study, i.e. Mayo Clinic, Mass General, Kaiser, and others that we are yet to be aware of...it is a constant that we will never find the actual cause of this disease - whatever we call it. It is strange to note that no one will step up to the plate and do a real scientific study of those of us who have actual samples from our bodies, but they won't look at those unless they see them come out of our bodies, so unless someone is in a facility where there are qualified, certified, and quantified experts in various fields of scientific endeavors, this is NEVER going to happen! Many of us, including myself, have been examined, prodded, poked, sliced open, had surgical removal of our organs (and in come horrific cases, before and after death) results concluded that there WAS something abnormal going on, yet no one would deem to give an accurate diagnosis. In cases where we have lost several of our members to various types of cancers, with lesions covering their bodies, yet the lesions had nothing to do with the cancer(s) found in the bodies, yet no one in the medical community found this phenomena to be unusual??? Were biopsies taken from these poor souls? Did they even look to see whether or not these lesions contained abnormal cells??? I find the lack of scientific expertise to be severely lacking in this study; they did not publish the etiology or epidemiological studies (if they were done at all)...so how can they make such a blank statement? The mere fact that only $600,000. was the cut off for this study to be an insult to those of us who have this disease! Millions of dollars could be spent just collecting information, doing blood, and specimen tests...yet a measly 600K gives forth such a "final" report? I hardly think so! I fear that they have always known how this disease began, and will continue to protect the perpetrators ad infinitum. That's the way they (CDC and their 'partners') handle secrecy in order to protect themselves! In non-scientific language: We were screwed when it was developed by man, we were screwed when it was released into the population, and we will continued to be screwed until the day we die!!! 'Nuff said, I'm deleting my studies, throwing out my samples, and will just wait to go wherever and whenever my day comes. God Bless Us All, CTBarb
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Post by awareseattle on Jan 26, 2012 15:57:10 GMT -5
The focus needs to be on encouraging PRIVATE research. The CDC and Mayo clinic do not use science, they use propaganda. So, how is private research encouraged? Show there will be a profit in treatment or cure?
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Post by ibzahp on Jan 26, 2012 22:55:37 GMT -5
Damn Them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by ibzahp on Jan 26, 2012 22:58:25 GMT -5
Greetings,
What a great early v day present from all those smart guys at the cdc
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Post by Lynn on Jan 27, 2012 8:12:55 GMT -5
CtBarb Please do not throw out your sample or your studies. Wait about six months and then see how you feel. Some day your material as well as others may come in handy. Who knows who will come into our paths and need all this stuff everyone has collected and written about. Just like Aids and Lymes it will one day get some sort of medical attention. It may stay controversal for a long time with Dr.s as Lymes is, but still may get centers that treat the disease. I hope there will be some sort of medical support in a bigger way then there is now. Hey everyone one of the things I notice for me is I get both. The weird cluster of tangled fiber from the skin from the disease itself and then also fibers from the clothes being brought into the skin. As we all know it effects all functions of the body. Our nervous system, blood, gut, and skin. Well I think the skins job has semi broken down. It pushes out and absorbs in abnormal waves. I have seen fibers from the clothes poking into the skin as well as my own hair. Even eyelash hairs. Now I think two thinks may be happening in my case. First at times the body absorbs to much and takes in the fabric lint and loose fibers. Other times I have felt my fallen loose hair being moved along the body. May be just gravity and over sensitive nerve ending sense the nerves do not function normally anymore with this disease. But also it could be the bugs moving debre to locations of their choosing. I have never felt bugs moving under my skin. I have felt them crawl on the outer surface and dig into pores when they find a nice spot to live. Well all in all I had to find a way to make the clothes as debre free as possible to keep that from bothering the skin process and also to know for sure for myself the other fibers coming out of the skin were not from my clothes. I think a lot of people are not able to get the clothes real debre free and the Dr.s or scientist have know clue how to look for the real sample. So most times they end up with debre fibers from the clothes and miss the fibers from the disease. I wish the Tulsa study would talk about how they learned to get samples that were not from clothes fibers. You would think at the beginning they had to run into that a bit. The fibers I get coming out of the skin are too little to see. I have to look though my little cheap microscope to see them and they look exactly like the pics everyone post on the fibers coming out of the skin. I am not as mad or upset as yesterday about the CDC. I am glad they did not exactly mark us as delusional. I am mad that they do not plan to look any further. Where is the Dr.s who got Aids acknowledge could not anyone find them and get their help in direction on getting things on board. I am surprised that those who do study the disease does not contact them and say hey we would like your input on how to get this thing on board and acknowledge and treated in the medical community. Well off my soap box for now. TorpedoLynn
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Post by awareseattle on Jan 27, 2012 11:52:14 GMT -5
Well, now my (our) chance for justice is completly f*cked!! Thanks a lot, CDC. Wankers. No buttock has broken out with big spots, my Tony would like me to go to the doctors. I am already taking anti-virals - nothing is working for me - treatment that is. Hi Itchin, You seem like a fun person, but why all the music video posts? They kind of distract, and make the forum seem goofy. For fun, do like I do and go to godlikeproductions dot com or lunaticoutpost dot com - theyre great for posting goofy comments and videos. If we are goofy here, then many readers will think our subject matter is goofy. No offense.
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Post by ibzahp on Jan 27, 2012 17:27:54 GMT -5
Hi CCT Barb and Torpedo Lynn- I agree, don't throw out your samples and Pics, may come in handy someday. Lynn the way you explained about the fibers is well said. i do feel, in my case that the skin has broken down and is pulling material in. I also have fibers that are not, in my experience, collected from the environment also granules and sticky goo from my pores. I am still upset about the study. However I am in a more positive frame than I was when I first heard. Love and Light, ibzahp
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Post by ibzahp on Jan 27, 2012 17:47:09 GMT -5
aware thanks for bringing all the information in very promptly, it really helps and itchin -good 2cu. I am reminding myself to not be dispirited by their findings or lack of findings. It certainly wasn't what I was hoping for and yet its not unexpected. we who are living with this malady know the truth of it. Blessings
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Post by awareseattle on Jan 28, 2012 2:22:51 GMT -5
Hi Itchin, You seem like a fun person, but why all the music video posts? They kind of distract, and make the forum seem goofy. For fun, do like I do and go to godlikeproductions dot com or lunaticoutpost dot com - theyre great for posting goofy comments and videos. If we are goofy here, then many readers will think our subject matter is goofy. No offense. Hi aware, I was a fun person. The music you ask? - as Baraka said - I am dancing my way through this. They shouldn't distract and are not meant for goofiness. Thanks itchin --------------------- Yeah, this is not a healthy forum to hang out in or try to have fun at - I know I don't focus on this stuff for more than 15 minutes a day.
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Post by Harry on Jan 28, 2012 13:00:50 GMT -5
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Post by ginna898 on Jan 28, 2012 14:57:34 GMT -5
That is good Harry --- too bad it is only been picked up by the news (at this time) to be published on an 'online' news place ONLY and it doesn't look like the major new stations and major newpapers will pick up this story about how wonderful Dr. Stricker is to stand up for morgellons and the fact that we all know it is real.
Major news stations are going to be keeping with the ELECTION until the end of the year and it will be difficult to get anything else newsworthy put on the news during this election year. ----- Something I believe the CDC PLANNED purposely along with the MAYO news releases that were completely ridiculous last year getting everyone 'conditioned' to believe the CDC's sloppy report.
The cdc should be ashamed of themselves. They used words that were not even 'definate' meaning they are not wanting the truth out there.
Careless words/phrases used by CDC:
Lesions present on those suffering from the disease COULD BE related to irritation ---(not scientific)
the fibers, hairs, and other protrusions often APPEARED to be from cotton, nylon or other fabrics that MAY HAVE come from clothes sticking to lesions or scabs,--- (not really a defined conclusion at all)
VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THE CDC long awaited thorough SCIENTIFIC REPORT that is just plain sloppy and full of untruths.
VERY HAPPY with Dr. Stricker --- He is one of the best and was there with AIDS and knows what is happening.
Go Dr. Stricker!
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Post by Harry on Jan 28, 2012 20:42:52 GMT -5
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Post by Harry on Jan 28, 2012 20:48:58 GMT -5
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