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Post by ruth on Jan 13, 2008 14:52:19 GMT -5
yep, Chief scientific officer Oliver Peoples has a photomicrograph of one of his PHA-making microbes that's just astounding. The little bug's innards are utterly dominated by huge gobs of the polymer it's internally manufacturing. There's far more plastic than bug body inside one of these little devils, about 85% of its dry weight. For the past few years Metabolix has concentrated on scaling up its process from the lab, where a benchtop fermenter may contain just 20 liters of nutrient broth, to commercial-scale 60,000-liter batches. The U.S. military could be the first customer--the Pentagon is testing biodegradable PHA forks and spoons to pack with MREs, those "meals, ready-to-eat" that fuel troops in the field. money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2003/07/21/346098/index.htmthis may be a repeat. that is what is worrying me. i don't know and i am tired of being 'early alzheimer'.
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Post by toni on Jan 13, 2008 15:03:14 GMT -5
Wow, I've sure never seen that article. Thank you for posting that. My goodness...that too is shocking what he said.
They just want bugs to eat sugar - and poop out the plastic.
I'm going to sound biased but I'm not against "man"...but I am in this field of technology, in that they're taking "perfect" by mother nature, and pushing it waaaay to the max. Next we'll all be pooping to make well...dollars wouldn't be too bad. But really, that's incredible, and to me...sad too.
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Post by Sidney on Jan 14, 2008 1:28:54 GMT -5
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Post by toni on Jan 14, 2008 10:21:47 GMT -5
Oh my, look at this: Monsanto, have since channeled their efforts to produce PHA into the third approach: growing the plastic in plants. Modifying the genetic makeup of an agricultural crop so that it could synthesize plastic as it grew would eliminate the fermentation process altogether. Instead of growing the crop, harvesting it, processing the plants to yield sugar and fermenting the sugar to convert it to plastic, one could produce the plastic directly in the plant. How nice, they'd figured out how to grow corn for food, and make plastic all at the same time!biodegradableplastics.bio-tec.biz/
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Post by toni on Jan 14, 2008 10:47:17 GMT -5
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Post by ruth on Jan 16, 2008 19:16:50 GMT -5
wonder if CDC read this thread
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Post by ruth on Jan 16, 2008 19:20:42 GMT -5
grady,
where are you
did you bail out on us?
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Post by skytroll on Jan 16, 2008 21:09:38 GMT -5
Grady,
Git yer butt back on here!
You are getting closer than you know.
And this is only one way this was done.
Skytroll
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Post by janedough on Jan 16, 2008 21:41:00 GMT -5
Yes, and tell us who threatened you or even hinted at it.
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Post by betsy on Jan 16, 2008 22:55:55 GMT -5
Anyone friendly to Grady who has his email might try to reach him and see what's going on. I can't believe any person on this board who actually has suffered Morgellon symptoms would cause Grady to be so worried as to contact his attorney for assistance and to use the word "scared'.
If it is all as Gray reported to us, then it must be a person who does not have Morgellon symptoms that is here for some clandestine reasons. This would likely have to be a person with some name recognition or Grady might have worded his comment differently. This is all VERY STRANGE. It could mean that Grady was quite close to an answer and someone wanted to discourage him.
Let's keep this thread top and center to make sure it does not slip to the background. Betsy
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Post by skytroll on Jan 16, 2008 23:04:59 GMT -5
I agree Betsy,
skytroll
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Post by ppy18 on Jan 18, 2008 0:30:54 GMT -5
you bet the cdc read this thread. getting a little bit scared i think. you guys kick ass. skytroll you rule! grady contact me if you need protection. i am former military and know how to use a gun. if they screw with you i'll have something for their a$$, guaranteed. its time to put the screws to em y'all. we need to kick up a big fuss and keep kickin till they tell the truth. no mercy!
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Post by suebe on Jan 18, 2008 1:23:27 GMT -5
Wow Kelly you go sister, wish I had you with me at a few doc. appt.'s sweetie, bet I would have never been called DOP, doctor would still be running, he he, LMFAO and I do need to shed a few back there. ;D
It's sad Grady left because he felt in some way threatened, warned to shut up? Yes I agree no one ill with this horror would have ever done that. I don't even think he's been coming in lately. If he's been run off it's a damn shame because he's a good man and we've lost a very valuable member.
Maybe he was getting to close. Thats so so sad if CDC could be behind fear like that. If something like that happened I'd push forward to sell my home and business and get out of this country.
Honestly I feel like CDC could care less about us, our groups, even the doctors and scientist trying to help us. To them we are just pee ons, nothing, a suffering few, heck I've invited them over for some kissin more times than I care to remember and I'm sure if they read my request for a visit they just say, Oh it's that poor dumb lady again, the one with the dead kid, yea well we know this stuff has neuro. effects cause she's nuts. It's painful and hurtful to feel our government feels that way about us but when Josh and I were at our worst, Dan Rutz told me we should just get out and go see a movie to feel better. No regard for how sick Josh was and no regard for a theater full of people. After Josh died Mr. Rutz, suggested a movie night out & went on and on about "how strong a woman I was" was he trying some kind of psycho. phone therapy or did he really know just what a hell we are all living?
I've thought for a long time that THE CDC has become very aware of what this is, for years folks have mailed samples to them and they requested that samples be sent the proper way, through a doctor. No one will ever convince me that they didn't look at those samples, they were not tossed, no way.
There was a time when I felt very hopeful that our own country would come to our aid and I BELIEVED. Now I try with all my heart to be open minded. It's so hard to believe in them with the way this has unraveled.
Well I HAD MY RANT, FEELING MUCH BETTER, I THINK, DON'T KNOW, I'M TIRED. I WANT MY LIFE BACK OR OVER, either way is OK by me, just sick of being sick. My life will never be the same again, we've all lost to much for that but I just can't let go of the hope that we all can rebuild the best we can.
Grady please come back we need you here, we all need to keep on keeping on till we reach the end of this road we've all found ourselves walking on and we've become family here and life long friendships have formed from our crappy journey.
Thats the one positive of Morgellons, I FOUND YOU GUYS and kelly sweetie I want you right by my side, you rock sweetie.
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Post by teller on Jan 18, 2008 3:12:35 GMT -5
When Grady'd said he was warned by several i took him to mean it like in loving concern (like how he had worried about roberta and suggested for her to not go to the hopsital the other day?) Remember How he siad Dr. Kolb forworded his email to the cdc,,,,,, When Dr. Kolb forwarded the info to the CDC she forwarded my email to them, so they definitely know who I am. After that event, I was warned by several on this board to be very careful, so now I'm scared, I have given information to my attorney (which I have for business dealings) and let many know around me about this should something happen to me what they should do. I guess I was naive, I was excited and joyful that we might find help. (I probly did't do the quote thingy right, but I tryed) Grady, please do touch base one way or another with someone so we can relax a bit.
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Post by robertalouise26 on Jan 18, 2008 4:56:00 GMT -5
Dear Teller Grady was worried and concerned for me and I really really appreciated that. But I have a new young GP and she is right on the Button. From my first visit she hit the nail on the head and from there on has done nothing BUT HELP ME. Even tho I was most reluctant to take her advice as I h ate hospitals!!! She new a lot more than I did at that stage of what was the matter with me. She begged and begged me to go straight to the hospital from her surgery. Well i just could not do that. I have a dog to feed and look after and said that I would go the next day and then about 5pm the same day I got a phone call from her nurse telling me that the Doctor wanted me to go to the hospital straight away once again i said no I will go tomorrow. After all I have had this for 12 years another night wouldn't make any difference. Well it turns out that I have a very very nasty bacteria in my ears and my nose I am sure and possibly through out my body. It is resistant to most antibiotics so they just keep changing my ear drops. Teller my ears have been shocking the itching unbelievable and I have perforated my right ear drum with the itching I guess. I have been in such misery. Well I went to the hospital sAw the Ear Nose and Throat Doctor he suctioned my ears out and prescribed another type of ear drops. These ones are very very good the stuff coming out of my ears is unbelievable and my nose. Flat cream worm like things with a bulb at one end over an inch long and a little bit wavey. These Are the third type of ear drops that has been prescribed for me they are called Ciproxin HC. I don't know how much they are in the States but over here they are $30!!!!!!!! which is a fortune to me being on a pension and I think that it is most unfair but at least I am getting tremendous relief when I use the drops the problem is that it is only a 10ml bottle and that doesn't go very far. But I DO RECCOMMEND THEM to anyone who is just about in the ding bats with itching in their ears. Also, and I am touching wood that the itching all over my body has decreased about 90% Now I think that it is a combintion of Derbac M and the 4 lots of radiation I had for my bowel and the ear drops. Good to hear from you Teller. Hope that you have a good weekend. Very best wishes. Roberta.
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Post by ppy18 on Jan 18, 2008 8:03:21 GMT -5
roberta, glad to hear you are getting help. even being acknowledged by doctors at this point would be such a relief for most folks. we are getting there people. slowly, ever so slowly, we will be justified and vindicated. but for the present i believe we will all be treated in a more tolerant and professional manner. in fact, lets just say that a lot of formally arrogant bastards will now be kissing ass ;D. please make sure to arm yourselves with as much information as possible about the cdc investigation when going for doctor visits. don't hesitate to insist that the dr note that you feel you suffer from morgellons disease in your records. even if he does not agree with you make sure he mentions morgellons and list the symptoms that you are suffering from. this is important as many are now getting disability based on morgellons disease. it is your right as a patient to insist that the doctor accurately list your symptoms, if he chooses to label you dop at that point be SURE to get a copy of your records. also request that copies of the information you provide about the current cdc investigation be included in your file. request that the doctor note that you provided him with this information. basically i'm saying document, document, document......put them on notice that they better be damn careful from this day forward. i know a lot of us are not in a position financially to pay for medical records from all of the doctors we have seen but it will be vitally important in the future to be armed with as much as you can get your hands on. i will speak with an attorney friend this weekend to find out if there is a way to obtain them for free or at a discount by claiming pauper status through the courts if you are on disability or have filed and are waiting for a judgment. if you can get your records, do not inform them in advance. simply show up at your doctors office and demand them. if they tell you it will take a few hours tell them you will wait. then inform them that you are likely contagious and suggest that they may want to proceed as quickly as possible ;D we have been treated negligently, unprofessionally, and in many instances contemptuously. we may not get them for malpractice but we will get them for negligence or rights violations or for libel. we have suffered catastrophic damages to our reputations. they can erase the words or change their diagnosis but they can't erase peoples memories. we are forever suspect in most peoples eyes, even those who believe us. you may not want to believe that but once the seed is planted in peoples minds its fixed for good. not their fault, not our fault, the fault belongs to those who ignored proper protocol and negligently assigned us with an inaccurate and extremely prejudicial diagnosis. sorry to go on and on. just got to thinking about how much we have been forced to endure unnecessarily. i want you all to be able have the last laugh. god bless us all
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Post by ppy18 on Jan 18, 2008 8:26:17 GMT -5
suebe, i would be happy to accompany you to future doctors appointments . i've been to a few with reliefseeker. her doctors don't think of me fondly but ...... they have been cooperative in most instances. i do enjoy putting those jerks in their places. put them on notice girl. i have taped many of my appointments. i just tell the doctor that my memory is bad and i want to be able to refresh my memory regarding his impression of my condition and his instructions for my care. it's a real attention getter. you will probably notice a more compassionate attitude and a more thorough exam than you have been given in the past . i do hate mr dan putz but he is correct in stating that you are a strong women sue. you have suffered greatly and lost much yet you still get up to fight another day. you are a hero to the cause. dan putz will get his just rewards, count on it! we have some special surprises in store for danny boy. he will regret not censoring his comments and speaking so freely in the past. just you wait suebe, he will be exposed in the very near future. once again let me say how much i admire your courage and strength of conviction. fight the good fight. in the end right is right. they can't take that away from us
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Post by toni on Jan 18, 2008 8:52:30 GMT -5
Kelly, You're amazing! Thank you for ALL you do! And correct! We need to stay on top this like never before to get 100% acknowledgement. And writing the news now (so they don't fade away) this is critical now to us, and tell them (we caught this somewhere-somehow) so if it's NOT contagious, then how the hell did we catch it? Our food? Water? What? Cause we ARE vicitims of something! When children get this from their parents, that looks contagious to me! They ARE underplaying this, the numbers of people infected, and the contagion. In this life one cannot "wait" and see...or we'll keep waiting. We need to keep news people on top their toes with what is happening to us. We need to let them know we ARE self treating, because doctors (many of them) are still saying DOP - heck look at the news, they've STILL got the docs saying DOP on tv and in the newspapers. We're almost there - but it's still not good enough. Until CDC STATES that this is REAL - will we be.
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Post by toni on Jan 18, 2008 8:59:58 GMT -5
Regarding the Putida and Grady. Grady, if you're reading this...this has been out and remained openly out there. So stop being afraid, this isn't new news - this is Dr. Wymore's findings, Dr. Wymore found this, you don't need to worry and he has always be up front with us, and supported us every which way humanly possible, and he knows what Putida is. I am not bashing you Grady, but the truth is the truth. And Dr. Wymore hasn't kept any secrets from us ever...so I for one, admire and respect the man GREATLY. Dr. Wymore stated this OPENLY in 2006 in his letter ( and the letter is STILL there on the Charles E Holman Foundation site: www.thenmo.org/rwupda04.htm1) Individual red and blue Morgellons fibers were placed in bacterial media and cultured at body temperature. Isolates of those bacterial populations were grown on lab preparative media, blood agar, chocolate agar and a type of media that tends to support fungi better than bacteria. The bacteria were stained with various stains and observed both alive and dead. The bacteria were separated out into pure cultures (I think). PCR was performed and the amplified DNA was sent to a commercial sequencing lab to do the DNA sequencing. (((Two different bacterial species were identified. )))(((They were: a) Pseudomonas putida and b) Corynebacterium efficiens. )))Does this identification mean anything? I do not know. Both of these can cause infections, especially in immunocompromised individuals. Both of these bacterial types are found in soil and can be found in skin. End of quote.
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Post by felixwillford on Jan 18, 2008 9:14:05 GMT -5
Yes TONI,
Yesterday I wrote every single station here in Southern Indiana and our newspaper.
Not had any coverage here yet. So I sent the press release to them all and told them
that there were people here in Southern INDIANA/Kentucky that are afflicted and that
they need to INFORM the people.
Yes, PBS too!
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